Comments by "Yerris" (@yerri5567) on "Hong Kong votes overwhelmingly for pro-democracy camp with record turnout in local elections" video.

What does "pro-democracy" even mean to these people? Whats the opposition? Anti-democracy? The fact that theres an election already means theres a democratic process involved...
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A L Who said the silent majority were anti-democratic?
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@Nessal83 The silent majority were anti-riots and anti-destruction. Thats got nothing to do with the election. Why did you say they dont exist?
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@serbanandreimarin Where and when did China said the silent majority were pro-Beijing? Do link me a source.
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@serbanandreimarin Nah no need. Youre lying. No where did the China say the silent majority were Pro-Beijing. You made that up yourself.
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@serbanandreimarin Yes, youve been brainwashed to think thats what they said when in fact they never did. China never said the silent majority were Pro-Beijing. Thats all in your head. Thats what the media wants you to think.
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@serbanandreimarin CIA dog spotted
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@serbanandreimarin All Im seeing is "woof woof"
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@serbanandreimarin More "woof woof". How about you rebut my actual points in my initial comment instead of Beijing this Beijing that. This video and comment is about Hong Kong and only about Hong Kong.
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@serbanandreimarin You are living proof you got no credible evidence to back that claim up. You cant find evidence because CHINA never said it in the first place. Its the MEDIA that said it. Fool.
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@serbanandreimarin Beijing never said it. It was the MEDIA that said Beijing that said it. Can you not tell the difference? Also, according to your logic, its Chinese propaganda to say that China said Hong Kong is not pro-Beijing? Shouldnt it be propaganda that Hong Kong is pro-Beijing?
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@serbanandreimarin Like I said, Beijing never said that. If you can find evidence that BEIJING said it and not the MEDIA that said it, then you can prove me wrong. As of right now, that is a lie, either that or youve been heavily brainwashed by your media.
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@serbanandreimarin "Chinese Propaganda said that "the silent majority" is Pro-Beijing and anti-riots Which was clearly proven wrong by the election results in Hong Kong,BTW" No. You never said the term "anti-riots" till now - thats what I said. Dont change your words. Beijing indeed say silent majority is "anti-riot". Beijing never said the silent majority were "Pro-Beijing" - that was what YOU said.
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@serbanandreimarin Can you even read English? No where in your link does it say anything about the silent majority being Pro-Beijing, nor Pro-Beijing vs Pro-Democracy. It speaks about HK being part of China under "One country two system" and not as an independent country. 2 completely different topics at hand here. Youve been truly brainwashed.
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@serbanandreimarin Can you comprehend English? I said no where in your link does it say anything about the silent majority being Pro-Beijing. And you link me something just because it has the word "silent majority" in it? WHERE IS THE LINKAGE BETWEEN THE SILENT MAJORITY AND IT BEING PRO-BEIJING? You just said they "created a platform", thats got NOTHING to do with them being "Pro-Beijing".
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@serbanandreimarin Ive said it before and Ill say it again. Beijing never said anything about the silent majority being Pro-Beijing. This article is about "One Country Two System" and about standing up to HK separatism as mentioned in the title. You literally pulled an irrelevant article out of nowhere to stress a point thats not even a point. The argument at hand here is that Beijing never said the silent majority were "Pro-Beijing". And you have proven that is to be the case. You still have not provided evidence to back your own claim up.
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@serbanandreimarin If you call that "evidence" then I have nothing more to say to you. You clearly are someone that is only high school educated. No one that has completed university would dare call that "evidence".
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@Electro_blob Another CIA dog. How much do YOU get paid? Theres nothing wrong with having 50% of the seats chosen by the industrial interest of HONG KONG. Just like theres nothing wrong with lobbying the government by big corps in the US.
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@Electro_blob "So you admit they are not fully democratic" Wrong choice of words. You cant "admit" to something that youre not involved in. Just like I cant "admit" that your name is "Electro_blob". Moreover, China never gave them full democracy, and neither did the British. Your point? "Do you understand what "pro-democracy" means now?" Whats "democratic" is extremely subjective. Whats the opposite party? "Anti-democracy" party? "Pro-Beijing"? Im sure the "anti-democracy" party or "Pro-Beijing" party would also like the democratic opportunity to vote dont you think? So since all parties want to vote, what does "pro-democracy" party mean?
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@Electro_blob I was done with you the moment I read your very first post. And right back to you with your "you know what I mean and you're just being stubborn on purpose". "One side advocates that 100% of the government should be decided by popular vote, and the other side that is should still be only 50%. Which seems more democratic to you?" Who said that 50% number is set in stone? In 2012 the majority of the US electors were pro-liberal, in 2016 the majority of the US electors were pro-republican. Who said the pro-Beijing numbers are set in stone by Beijing? Your media? Let me tell you something, thats a lie and you have been brainwashed. Ive said it before and Ill say it again. The British never gave HK democracy. Where were you when HK wanted democracy then? Youre just anti-China. Just admit it.
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@Electro_blob "50% are literally chosen by industrial interests, and not the people. This is written into law" Oh look. You want to speak about the law but knows nothing about the law. 50% of the seats comprise of functional constituencies, which include education, social welfare, arts, sports, and culture. They act on behalf of their professions and trades. Not all professions are "industrial". And if you think the numbers are chosen for their interests and "not the people", then Im going to have to ask you to reflect on your own countys governance. How is that any different from big corporations lobbying your government? Stop trying to make it seem like your countrys system is any better when in essence the exact same thing happens, just in different form. At least in Hong Kong, the lobbying is open and transparent, unlike the US. "People in Hong Kong do not vote for half of their representatives" Wrong. The people AND professional representatives of Hong Kong vote for their representatives. And all professional representatives of Hong Kong are also people of Hong Kong. "These 50% were not elected by a popular vote" Your president was not elected by a popular vote. You are not qualified to talk about the popular vote if your country doesnt even follow by it.
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@Electro_blob 'All professions are industries e.g. "the art industry."' The terms industry and industrial are slightly different. Industrial specifically refers to the sector of an economy that is involved with manufacturing/machines. 'I am merely asserting, as I have been from the beginning, that the pro-democracy parties in Hong Kong advocate for a more direct democracy..."Pro-democracy" means a completely popular vote, not the vote of corporate lobbyists that make up one percent of the population' 2 things here. For district elections, they already have full democracy. As for election for their Chief executive, under HK basic law, only those in the election committee get to vote for the CE. Thats 1200 votes. And of those 1200, only 300 are from the industrial, commercial and financial sectors. You have your electoral college in place to elect your president, Hong Kong has their election committee in place to elect their CE. So again, whats there to advocate about "pro-democracy"? Whats "pro-democracy" about? You already admit the US doesnt have a completely popular vote. So why is there no "pro-democracy" party/movement in the US? Bernie was more popular than Clinton, yet Clinton became the final candidate for the Democrats. And Clinton was more popular than Trump, yet Trump won. So why is there no "pro-democracy" party in the US again? Do you not see what my point is? Also, these "1%" you speak of contribute more than 1/4 of your countrys economy - even more in HK. Theres a reason why they have significant influence over your government. "You have already admitted that you are not ruled by a completely popular vote" Again, I cant "admit" something Im not involved with. Im not from HK nor from China. Just like I cant "admit" that you are not communist. I cant "admit" anything for you. Its not involved with me. If I do say something its called a statement or a claim.
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