Comments by "Yerris" (@yerri5567) on "Philippines condemns ‘floating barrier’ set up by Chinese fishermen in Scarborough Shoal" video.
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@Hkchinese888 "the one who first claimed? Who justifies your first claim, everybody can have the first claim not only China"
There can only be one "first". As I said, China made their first claim in the 1940s (come source says 1930s). PH and the others made their first claim in the 1970s, 3 decades after Chinas first claim. So obviously China claimed first.
"yes, that island is belong to Philippine as the Philippine fisherman had been fishing there from the very beginning"
Fishermans have no power nor rights to make their claims over territories, its sovereign powers that do. Moreover, your example was based on "historical claims" which the tribunal you speak of says has no legal basis.
"You used excessive force to expel others which is against the law, the military leaser gun is a weapon. It's been proved in HK courts. Also deploying obstruction in internal waters is also against the law, you need to grow up"
"You", "you", "you" again. I did nothing. Nor did my country. Stop making this personal, only losers in an argument do that.
Water guns are "excessive force"? If no one was hurt how is that "excessive force"? Moreover, the argument for China is that people were trespassing their sovereign territory, and they have every right to be safeguarding their territorial integrity based on international law, including the use of force if necessary.
And you keep repeating the same thing and also misspelling the same word. Since youre bringing up the same thing I already responded then I will also repeat the same thing: that area is not defined as "international waters", its defined as "disputed territory" for a reason. If a country claims sovereignty over those islands/reefs, then its evidently not called "international waters".
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@Hkchinese888 "you statement are contradicted with each other, on one hand your didn't observe the verdict of the international maritime court, on the other hand you ask other to adhere your baseless claims that the waters is your territory"
Theres no contradiction at all. Its your interpretation thats contradicting. Firstly, what did the verdict say? It only merely stated that China (and by extension all other countries) have no legal basis in making historical claims to a territory. That is all. Well, what happens when ALL countries in the world cannot make those claims, does that mean islands can belong to no country in the world? Whats the next deciding factor? Obviously the one who made the first claim in the region. And who was that? It was China! China made their claims in the 1940s (some sources say 1930s). When did PH make their claims? 1970! 3 decades later! I dont know about you, but if you make a claim to an unclaimed plot of land, and 3 decades later someone else claims that plot of land is theirs, who do you think really owns that plot of land?
As for your other point. "I" didnt ask nor is the territory "mine", and China is NOT my country, so dont try and get personal with me. Stick with the facts. I never made those claims, so nothings "contradictory" to what I said.
"if it is a disputed area, it doesn't mean you can expel others by illegal means"
What are the laws in disputed areas? Its a grey area NOT defined by international law. So by definition, it cant be deemed "illegal". Theres no laws that prohibits one from safeguarding their territorial integrity.
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