Comments by "Yerris" (@yerri5567) on "Why China wants to control much of the South China Sea" video.

China made their first modern sovereign claims over the island/reefs/shoals etc in the 1940s. Vietnam and PH made their first modern sovereign claims in the 1970s 3 decades later after oil was found. Whos trying to steal whos land? Let that sink in. In before people say Vietnam or PH made claims hundreds of years ago. The UN arbitration court ruled that territory cannot be claimed based on historical rights, so China, and by extension other countries like Vietnam and PH also cant make claims based on historical rights from centuries/millenniums ago.
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@TasteBudTreasures-hq2nw Anyone that approaches anothers sovereign territory, they have every right under international law to use force if necessary. And the EEZ needs to be updated, because the islands that China is safeguarding have territorial water rights. Territorial rights > EEZ rights.
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@user-ey3lo1vy4d They have sovereign rights. They claim sovereignty over the islands/reefs/shoals etc
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@alphillips5478 Except all the incidents with PH all happened within 12nm of territorial waters of islands/shoals/reefs that China claims as their sovereign territory that PH has no business in.
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@alphillips5478 Theyre literally the first claimant in the region. When they claimed it, it wasnt claimed by anyone else. Thats their "right".
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@fungj4126 Opinions. TW claims to be the country called China. And PHs EEZ is not delimited under international law. TW also have islands in the SCS, they have EEZ too. Its just not spoken about.
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@SIR_RR Do you have military on the moon and China? Itll make sense if you do.
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@luonggiaphat7946 "First off, hose islands were already part of Vietnamese territories before 1940s, all the way to at least the 17th century, and when Vietnam was incorporated into French Indochina, the French also incorporated those island into the colony" Did you miss the 2nd part of my comment? If you want to speak about history centuries back, China can too. We talking about MODERN history now. But if you want to talk about it, then sure. The French took the islands from China, how do we know this? Because the French couldve taken it any time, but they specifically took the islands when China when Japan invaded China, when China was weak, because they knew it was Chinas. Soon after, Japan took over the islands. Again, because they knew it was Chinas too, as they were waging war against China, and only China then. But yes, with all those shenanigans, South Vietnam government had control over the islands in the 1940s leftover from the French after Japan surrendered them after WW2. But wheres the government of South Vietnam now? Non-existent! So no point talking about that. Why? Because in the 1950s, North Vietnam wrote an official letter to China, "acknowledging" and "respecting" Chinas claims over the islands. So North Vietnam had no claims over the islands whatsoever. Thats why China helped North Vietnam with the war and won. Once North Vietnam won, the islands were Chinas and Chinas only. No dispute from there onwards. Till the 1970s when Vietnam made their first modern claims after oil was found. "Secondly...those islands were territories of South Vietnam, which was attacked by China in 1974, and later, after North Vietnam reunified Vietnam, in the 1980s, China began escalating tension and asserting their dominance more agressively, including attacks on those territories" China was helping North Vietnam with the war, so of course they attacked South Vietnam. Is that even a question? And it was precisely that Vietnam backtracked on their words that they "acknowledged" and "respected" Chinas claims that led to the tensions. It was Vietnam that attacked China when China approached their very own territory (remember, Vietnam then recognised Chinas claim over the islands then). With the backstabbing, along with Vietnam messing with Chinas puppet ally in Laos, Vietnam was basically messing with China at every turn at this point in time. "Also, historically, China has rarely, if ever expanded its maritime borders beyond Hainan island, so those islands probably belonged to Champa and other South East Asian maritime kingdoms before they come into Vietnamese possessions. Therefore, China has no legal claim over them." Opinions. Whats legal or not is not determined by you. China was the first country in the region to lay sovereign claims to the islands. The government of South Vietnam that also had claims dont exist on this planet anymore. And the first president of the current ruling Vietnamese government specifically wrote a letter to China recognising Chinas claim to the islands.
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@Cipher422 Did I say every feature in the SCS are considered islands? Under UNCLOS, all low tide elevations generate territorial waters, not just islands. That includes rocks, shoal, reef etc.
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@rob3539 History is proof. Chinas was the first claimant in the region. Moreover, "own" is not the correct word to use. If I ask you to show me proof how America "owns" Hawaii, how would you do that?
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@TacticalMayo With my level of English, more like $50.
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@fungj4126 That claims to be a country called China.
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@luonggiaphat7946 Do you have selective reading or something? I already said North Vietnam wrote an official letter to China recognising the islands as Chinas. Theres no need for any fancy textbooks. Just the 1958 letter itself from Prime Minister Pham is enough to clear your doubts. So once China helped North Vietnam win the war, the recognition obviously still holds valid. It was not until 1977 that the unified Vietnam made their first sovereign claims over the islands (note: Pham was still the Prime Minister then). This is why China sees Vietnam as backstabbers. Help you win the war and then you backtrack on the conditions for China to join the war.
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@TasteBudTreasures-hq2nw Prior to the artificial islands being built, the territory that it was built on is considered a low tide elevation. And low tide elevations have territorial water rights under international law.
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@TasteBudTreasures-hq2nw No. Thats already been proven in the arbitration court that PH called for. Read the ruling if you dont believe me. But not sure if you have the capacity to read over 100 pages. Nevertheless, PH is the real imperialist. A territory grabber by claiming islands in the SCS as theirs. Look PHs sovereign handover treaty and read it carefully. NOTHING in the SCS was given to PH. Absolutely nothing.
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@TasteBudTreasures-hq2nw Whats "wrong"? Thats a UNCLOS law. Its literally in the SCS arbitration court ruling. And youre speaking about the PH being the imperialist. PH has absolutely no sovereign territory in the SCS as per the handover treaty from the US. Absolutely none. So claiming territory in the 1970s that China has already claimed in the 1940s tells us who the real territory grabber is.
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@TasteBudTreasures-hq2nw Claiming continental shelf is for EEZ purposes. Thats got nothing to do with sovereignty. But PH IS claiming sovereignty over islands/shoals/reefs that they CLEARLY have no sovereignty over as per their US-PH sovereignty handover. And Vietnam claims half of the SCS. Wheres your dispute with them hey? Moreover, my country isnt in Asia. So dont speak as if you know where Im from. And do you even know what Japan did in WW2? Which country did China colonise, graped, and deleted?
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@TasteBudTreasures-hq2nw "1. EEZ covers everything under water. That is why China is building artificial islands" Chinas claim over the islands have nothing to do with EEZ, as artificial islands themselves dont have EEZ rights. So you contradicted yourself here. Their claim is sovereignty over the territory, and building artificial islands help defend their sovereign territory. Simple as that. "2. Our claim is our own same as yours. We are in conflict with Vietnam but do not engage in brutish behaviors like yours" Mine? My country has no business in the SCS. I already said, my country isnt in Asia. And now youre asserting Im Chinese? Because Im pro-facts? "3. i presume you to be Chinese based on your rhetoric" Ive already stated that Im not. Not everyone that is pro-China Chinese. Just like not everyone that is pro-Trump from the US. "4. China is doing exactly what Japan did in WW2-expansionism" Colonisation, grape, sIavery, biological warfare and mass deletion of people? You honestly dont know what youre talking about. "Remember Manchuria?" What about Manchuria? "Your country is literally at odds with almost all of its neighbors, so spare me from gaslighting" My country is in odds with no one. If anyone is gaslighting here its you. So if anything, spare me from all your gaslighting.
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