Comments by "Yerris" (@yerri5567) on "Why China is losing the microchip war" video.

@gilgamesh7197 "Funny to see Chinese regard the trash chip as treasure. The chip is inferior to 865😂" Im not sure what youre on, but the chips been benchmarked. The in-house built Kirin 9000 performed better than Snapdragons 865. And this is the next generation Kirin 9000S we are talking about
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@Not_a_lier "you need EUV machines to move forward sry" They say you couldnt make 14nm chips with DUV, then China did it. Then they says they couldnt make 11nm chips with DUV, China did it again. Then they say they couldnt make 7nm chips with DUV, China did it again. So not sure what youre on about there...
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@DragonOfTheMortalKombat Rest of the world using 3nm? Which device is currently using 3nm out on the market?
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@thesenate8477 You mean A17. So basically phones not released yet. There is no phone using 3nm at this moment. Also, the size of the node is not everything. Intels 10nm has been on par with TSCMs 7nm, and Huaweis 7nm is on part with TSCMs 5nm. And Huaweis chip has been benchmarked already, its only 2 generations behind, meaning its just 2 years behind. Which means the gap is closing if you ask me. Just give China a few more years and China will be on par with the others.
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And what do you mean "YOUR EUVs" and "YOU cant this" and "YOU cant that"? My country doesnt even produce chips. Or were you assuming I was Chinese? Baseless assumption. Dont try get personal with me. And besides, silicon chips are close approaching its physical limitation on how small it can get ~1nm. Itll take less than a decade before hitting that hard physical limit. So whats next? Many say next is quantum computing. I dont know, but let me say this, China is by far investing the most on quantum computing research. Investing much more than the US and every other country. So my bets on them when it comes to next generation computing. Theyve dominated every industry theyve heavily invested on, 5G and the EV industry for example.
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"What are you saying l???? Do you know how semiconductor works?" If you know enough about chips, youll know the node size in nm is not everything. Its performance that matters. And we can measure the real life performance of these chips by benchmarking them through a series of tests. So yes, Intels 10nm was on par with TSMCs 7nm, and Huaweis 7nm is on par with TSMCs 5nm. "By the way 7 nm technology is nearly 9 years old, it was first unveiled in 2015 by IBM and mass produced in 2016" You are not talking about SoC processors.The topic in question is SoC processor chips, not another type of chip. The first 7nm processor chip for mobile was first used in late 2018. And thats old tech. The 7nm SoC built now far outperform 7nm chips built 5 years ago. So dont get carried away by the "nm" marketing buzz. Although it does matter, its not everything. Ultimately, its the performance that really matters. "China achieved now what the world achieved 7 years ago basically, which means china is at least 5-7 years behind if not more" So why does their 7nm chip benchmarked to be on par with chips from 2-3 years ago if theyre 5-7 years behind? Answer that! Clearly theyre just 2-3 years behind.
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"There's no way you will get to 5 nm or below without EUV technology and frankly your EUV machines are far inferior to that of ASML that is no doubt so there is no way you can catch up to the US" Once upon a time they said China wouldnt be able to produce 10nm chips with their DUV, yet they did it. Then they said China couldnt produce 7nm chips with their DUV, yet they did it again. So we all know whats going to happen when you tell me theres "no way" China can produce 5nm chips with their DUVs again
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@Not_a_lier nm isnt everything. Even Intel had been stuck on 10nm for ages and was competing with TSMCs 7nm. Chinas SMICs 7nm N+2 is equivalent to TSMCs 5nm. Just with a 1-2% difference. Just google it if you dont believe me. And heres a fun fact, we are nearing the physical limitation on how small silicon chips can be made. The smallest silicon chips possible for humans to make is just under 1nm. So after a few years whats next? Many bet its on quantum computing. And Chinas already heavily invested in that technology
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@thesenate8477 ^
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@thesenate8477 Doesnt matter how expensive it is as long as its profitable. And just because others cant doesnt means China cant. Others cant even build 10nm chips with DUV, let alone 7nm chips with DUV that China has done.
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@superjnovaannularaurora9065 AnTuTu and Geekbench
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