Comments by "Yerris" (@yerri5567) on "Tucker: World Health Organization praises China, denies Taiwan's existence" video.
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@fancyfart911 Joshua Wood "Most of your statements are pretty accurate"
Correct me if Im wrong but I believe that ALL the facts I have stated was accurate? Not just "most"?
"But most Taiwanese don’t consider themselves Chinese anymore"
You see, when we talk about facts, especially on the world stage, it doesnt take into consideration of opinions. What the people of Taiwan "think" is not important. Its whats the official government stance is is whats important. So even if you dont consider yourselves to be Chinese, you are, both nationality and ethnically.
"The reason you still read that Taiwan claims to be China in the ROC constitution is the result of “1992 consensus” in which PRC and ROC both agreed to the “One China Policy” to prevent war and to prevent Taiwan from claiming sovereignty"
3 different points here. Back then, Taiwan never wanted to claim sovereignty - separate from China (ROC). ROC already has sovereignty.
"1992 consensus" was basically a consensus where they both PRC and ROC claim to be the legitimate government of China and that Taiwan and the mainland is part of the same "One China".
ROC constitution stating Taiwan as a province of China was made 70 years ago, after Taiwan was returned back to China after WW2.
"The fact is, if not for the constant military threats and political pressure from China, we’d have declared sovereignty long ago. Keep in mind that we have our own land, military force, and a working democratic"
No, you wouldnt be able to. Because KMT would stop you regardless if there was pressure from PRC or not. Then there would be another civil war within Taiwan. And when that happens, all those "Taiwan independence" supporters will lose because your Republic of CHINA (not "Taiwan") Armed Forces pledged their allegiance to defending ROC territory, ie China. In the eyes of the military, those that take away their territory will be attacked. And theres no other military force on Taiwan other than Republic of China Armed Forces.
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@fancyfart911 You mentioned a lot of things that are basically opinions. Remember, facts dont care about opinions.
"For instance, you keep saying ROC and PRC are both China, while the constitutions of both parties do state that, it is awkwardly far from truth"
No that is the truth. As long as ROC does not revoke its claim over mainland China, that fact still stands that they still claim to be China. Im pretty sure PRC will welcome ROC to revoke their claim over mainland China in their constitution. They just dont want ROC to revoke their claim over Taiwan to give room for "Taiwan independence".
'You have to understand that the 92 Consensus is ironically an agreement of “agreeing to disagree”. On the PRC part, One China means “one China, two systems”, On ROC’s part it means “One China, two countries”. Never in the history has Taiwan agreed to the “two systems” agenda'
No. Youre confused. PRCs "one country two system" refers to the SAR governments of HK and Macau, and the stretched that offer to ROC. But that was not the 1992 consensus.
The 1992 consensus was that PRC and ROC came to the consensus that Taiwan and the mainland are and inseparable part of "One China". And the only disagreement was who was the ruler of this "One China". PRC and ROC both claim to be the sole legitimate ruler of this "One China" that includes Taiwan and the mainland.
"Nowadays ROC is synonymous to Taiwan, and PRC China, that‘s a fact regardless of what the constitution says"
Thats not a "fact". Its synonymous for ignorant people because they dont know the facts and listen to what their media tells them. So in a sense you could say theyre brainwashed to think that way. Everyone keeps repeating it so it "must be true".
ROC is not synonymous with Taiwan. Taiwan is part of ROC.
"(again, the only reason that Taiwan hasn’t scratched that from its constitution is because of the constant pressure from China.)"
Theres no pressure from PRC not to have ROC revoke their claim over the mainland yet ROC still hasnt. Can you explain that if you claim ROC doesnt claim to be China?
"Moving on, your statement of KMT stopping the independence of Taiwan is purely a speculation"
No. Its not speculation if its their core value. KMTs core value is that ROC is the true China.
"KMT is a dying political party that has long lost its popularity since they regrettably became a puppet of CPC. With Taiwan having a democratic system, it is very unlikely that they’ll be the majority of congress again"
You need to understand the cycle of politics. They go back and forth indefinitely. Just because the opposition is not popular right now, does mean its "dying". It literally means theyre not popular IN THIS PARTICULAR TIME PERIOD. So what you said there is an opinion again. Not facts.
"As of the likelihood of a civil war within Taiwan, I can assure you right now that it will never happen. ROC military IS the military of Taiwan, names don’t mean a thing here, it answers to the people and the people only"
Yes. The likelihood of Taiwan independence will also never happen. Because if it does, within a few hours they will be invaded, rendering the the "independence" void.
Also, ROC military is not the military of "Taiwan". Its the military of ROC, Taiwan is just a part of ROC. If one day PRC collapses, I assure you ROC military will be the first ones to conquer mainland China again. Why? Because they freaking claim it!
"As a former marine, I can tell you that we’d been trained to see China as our biggest enemy, not our own people"
*PRC. Clearly youre confused on the term "China". Your government also claims to be China.
"Moreover, contradicting what the Chinese propaganda says, most of the people of Taiwan would like to see independence happen one day...since basically, all Taiwanese are independence supporters"
Who are you trying to fool? Youre talking to someone that value facts here. I know my facts, and the facts certainly do not point to over 50% of Taiwanese wanting independence. The latest figure is only 27%!
"In conclusion, most of what I stated are the hard truth that aren’t written in books but is common sense if you spend enough time in Taiwan"
Remember, facts dont care about opinions. Youve stated a lot of opinions. The worse one being that "most" Taiwanese want independence, when it was only about a quarter. I take is as most of your bubble wants independence, but you seem to be forgeting the older generation.
"The CPC tries to shield it from its people fearing that the notion of Taiwan’s independence would threaten their regime"
More opinions. Whether PRC or ROC, or any other country (or individuals), no one wants to lose a part of their land. Its got nothing to do with "threatening their regime".
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@netwar6152 "looks u're just overrate huawei or trying cover it up"
Like I said, youre ignorant of this issue. Youre in denial. You refuse to look into the facts and just repeat what the media is telling you.
" Let's just say about Harmony OS, which be claimed all develop by huawei itself. I can tell u that its just another aosp which replace ui and renamed stuff"
Oh? So you used Harmony OS before? Or did you just "hear" about it again?
Regardless, remember what I said? Even if Huawei completely drops its mobile phone department, it wouldnt shake the company one bit.
"It's what china can do all the time, copycat"
In the tech space, theres bound to be some sort of "copying". Just like now every phone looks the same. A palm sized rectangular block - touch screen at the front, multiple cameras at the back, volume and on/off buttons etc etc.
What cant be "copied" are patents ie intellectual property. Copy that and you will be sued. Even Samsung and Apple has accused each other of IP theft. Do you call them out for being "copycats"? Clearly youre just a China hater.
Like I said, Huaweis R&D investments are ranked now 5th in the world, and almost all that money is spent on 5G; they have the most 5G related patents in the world. No company even comes close to their 5G capabilities. This is public information, so not sure what you mean by "trying to cover it up".
This is why the US wants to ban Huawei. They dont want the Chinese to beat them, theyre used to being number 1. What "national security threat"? Its all just an excuse. Remember Trump saying theyll "unban" Huawei once there was a trade deal? Its all a political ploy. If it really was a "national security threat" they wouldnt "unban" them no matter what!
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