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Comments by "Yerris" (@yerri5567) on "The Truth About China in Africa" video.
@oliverbanes5121 "These loans are given purely with a political motivation and with a higher interest rate too" Fake news. Provide your evidence that theyre lending out at higher interest rates than their competitors. The reason why these countries are going with China is because theyre LITERALLY providing these loans at LOWER interest rates than what their competitors would have lent.
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@justawesome7514 "Congrats on being a mouthpiece for the Chinese Regime! You're shown your true colors! How does that feel?" Clarifying misinformation flying around on MSM and the internet is being a "mouthpiece"? Thats what PolyMatter has always done? So not sure what "true colours" youre on about. Feels good to know that theres people out there telling the facts as it is instead of spreading misinformation.
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PolyMatter 2:40 Its not "illegal" if their claims were made before maritime laws even existed. Even after the laws existed, their claims were sovereign claims, something that UNCLOS does NOT speak of.
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PolyMatter 2:40 Its not "illegal" if their claims were made before maritime laws even existed. Even after the laws existed, their claims were sovereign claims, something that UNCLOS does NOT speak of, nor have authority over.
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@CrasusC "what is the exact statement of these country pray do tell...show me the statements of the 60+ countries you said supported China’s claim" Im not going to go through each country one by one for you. The date they made their statement is right next to the country. You can search it up yourself if youre interested. Article title is "Who Supports China in the South China Sea and Why". "I never said China’s claim is illegal, I said it is not legal. There is a difference there" This is not about semantics or English literature. This is about legality. "Not legal" means "illegal" in a legal context. Anything thats not stated to be illegal is legal by all means. Doing so will have no legal repercussions. Not everything in this world must be stated whats "legal". Only whats "illegal" must be stated. And anything thats not stated to be illegal, is legal - in a legal context.
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@CrasusC "Not the point of the video bud" What? Because its not "the point" I cant point out something thats wrong?
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@CrasusC 'If the claim was never recognised internationally, then it remains that — “a claim”, and still subject to judgement of international law when the law comes into force' Chinas sovereign claims over those islands were undisputed at the time of the claims (1940s). It was only when oil was found there (1970s) that surrounding countries started claiming those islands as theirs. Also, there IS NO international law when it comes to making sovereign claims. Any unclaimed land can be claimed as theirs (which at that time was unclaimed after Japanese surrender). "If the PRC or ROC had actually controlled South China Sea and the control is recognised by the international community when the UNCLOS comes into force...Unfortunately that did not happen, so logically China’s claim on the whole of South China Sea is not legal by UNCLOS". The issue here is not China claiming the "sea" as theirs, but the "islands". There is NO law in UNCLOS that states ANYTHING about sovereignty. Only about maritime rights. Rights and sovereignty are TWO VERY different things. Since the sovereign claims does not violate any international law, it is thus not "illegal".
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@CrasusC "well, let me put it in layman’s term: if no country exception ROC and PRC is recognising these sovereignty claims, then it is not legal. That is the definition of what a law is: a rule that is recognised by everybody" Thats not how it works. Countries dont go around cross verifying with other countries asking "do you agree that this specific part of our country that we claim is part of our country?". And also, 60+ countries have supported China on their position in the SCS. So dont go about saying no country recognises this and that. "the West will still carry out Freedom of Navigation patrols, meaning the important players do not recognise the legality of the sovereignty claim, that is all that matters" Again, that is the "sea", not "islands". The sea is not the problem, its islands. You are speaking about a COMPLETELY different issue as stated in my previous comment.
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@CrasusC "pray, tell me which are these 60+ countries you speak of?...The imaginary 60+ countries you spoke of carry hardly any weight" Imaginary? The following countries are imaginary? Africa (39): The Republic of Kenya 06/15/2016 The United Republic of Tanzania 05/31/2016 The Republic of Zambia 06/13/2016 Republic of Cameroon 06/15/2016 The Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia 06/15/2016 Kingdom of Lesotho 05/27/2016 Republic of Malawi 06/22/2016 The Republic of Mali 07/06/2016 The Republic of Niger 05/19/2016 The Republic of Uganda 05/30/2016 The Commonwealth of Eritrea 05/30/2016 The Republic of Sierra Leone 06/09/2016 The Gabonese Republic 05/12/2016 The Central African Republic 06/28/2016 Madagascar 07/08/2016 The Republic of Guinea-Bissau 06/24/2016 The Republic of Guinea 07/19/2016 The Republic of Benin 07/11/2016 Democratic Republic of the Congo 06/28/2016 Republic of Zimbabwe 06/30/2016 The Republic of Angola 07/01/2016 The Republic of Liberia 07/05/2016 The Republic of Senegal 07/08/2016 The Republic of Tunisia Doha Declaration 05/12/2016* The Kingdom of Morocco Doha Declaration 05/12/2016* The Republic of Mozambique 05/18/2016 The Republic of Congo 06/20/2016 The Republic of Burundi 05/18/2016 The Republic of Togo 05/17/2016 People’s Democratic Republic of Algeria Doha Declaration 05/12/2016* The Republic of Sudan 04/28/2016 The Republic of Djibouti Doha Declaration 05/12/2016* State of Libya Doha Declaration 05/12/2016* The Islamic Republic of Mauritania Doha Declaration 05/12/2016* The Somalia Democratic Republic Doha Declaration 05/12/2016* Union of Comoros Doha Declaration 05/12/2016* Islamic Republic of Gambia 04/21/2016 Doha Declaration 05/12/2016* The Republic of South Africa 06/22/2016 The Arab Republic of Egypt Doha Declaration 05/12/2016* Asia (23): Yemen Republic Doha Declaration 05/12/2016* Sultanate of Oman Doha Declaration 05/12/2016* Nation of Brunei 04/23/2016 Republic of Lebanon Doha Declaration 05/12/2016* The Syrian Arab Republic Doha Declaration 05/12/2016* Republic of Iraq Doha Declaration 05/12/2016* The Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka 04/09/2016 Islamic Republic of Afghanistan 05/18/2016 People’s Republic of Bangladesh 04/27/2016 Lao People’s Democratic Republic 04/23/2016 Kingdom of Cambodia 04/23/2016 The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan Doha Declaration 05/12/2016* Kingdom of Bahrain Doha Declaration 05/12/2016* Republic of Uzbekistan 06/24/2016 The State of Palestine Doha Declaration 05/12/2016* Kyrgyz Republic 04/27/2016 Republic of Tajikistan 06/24/2016 State of Kuwait Doha Declaration 05/12/2016* State of Qatar Doha Declaration 05/12/2016* Islamic Republic of Pakistan 04/28/2016 Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Doha Declaration 05/12/2016* United Arab Emirates (UAE) Doha Declaration 05/12/2016* Republic of Kazakhstan 04/28/2016 Europe (4): The Russian Federation 04/29/2016 Republic of Serbia 06/19/2016 Montenegro 07/12/2016 The Republic of Belarus 04/27/2016 South America/Caribbean (3): Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela 05/10/2016 Grenada 06/24/2016 The Commonwealth of Dominica 06/24/2016 Oceania (2): The Independent State of Papua New Guinea 07/08/2016 The Republic of Vanuatu 05/25/2016
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@CrasusC "The US/UK/Australia/Philippines/Vietnam/Japan do not Distinguish between the South China Sea and the islands in the SCS when it comes to China’s sovereignty claims. It’s all the same to them" Doesnt matter. When it comes to legality, it doesnt matter what they "think". If its illegal, its illegal. If its not, then its not. Since you claim that its not illegal, which law did China violate? "And when it comes to legitimacy, these countries’ opinions carry weight" 5 countries "opinions" carry more weight than the law??
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@CrasusC There is no country in this world that has made any official statement that tiny islands of any country belongs to that country. Whether itd be British islands, French islands, US islands, Philippine islands, Vietnamese islands, Australian islands, Russian islands etc etc I will say it again, in a legal context, anything not stated to be illegal, is legal. Chinas claims over the islands in the SCS and what they did to them were NOT illegal.
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@CrasusC "lol, you were caught presenting false “evidence”, so you are now resorting to false generalisation to win an argument?" Oh? Quote me. What statement have I made that said was "false"? Did I not say those countries "supported China on their position in the SCS"? Is that not true? And if we want to talk about whos making false statements, its you. I can count up to 4 on the top of my head. There might even be more. "Go outside and get some exercise, talk to people and make some friends" Save that for yourself. Bold of you to make baseless assumptions and tell others what to do. "I am not wasting any of my time with this argument, it’s pointless. I give this little victory to you" Be my guest. Im not the one that entered into this argument in the first place...
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