Comments by "Yerris" (@yerri5567) on "" video.
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@polin1710 " there are literally satelite pictures"
Ooooo satellite images of new buildings...You think that proves "concentration camps" now? You dont even know whats happening inside
'the Chinese authorities themselves even stated it was for "re-education"'
Yes. Do you actually know what happens inside? Its been documented. People learn language, law and workforce skills in it. Is that "torture" to you?
"countless people have lost their family"
People dont die in your country?
"people have been killed for protesting"
For merely protesting? No. If they did die its for other reasons.
"more than 1 million people are being tortured for their faith and you refuse to acknowledge cold hard fact...while believing everything the CCP says"
I dont believe the CCP. I believe in facts. And till date, there has been ZERO credible evidence of "more than 1 million people are being tortured". Those are made up numbers. Those "1 million people" went to school. That was it. None of this "tortured" nonsense. More like YOU believe everything anti-China people are telling you. You dont even VERIFY whether its true or not, you just believe based on some "satellite" images of new buildings...You have NO idea whats happening inside new buildings. Every country in this world has new buildings...
"search up Xinjiang interment camps, chinese interment camp"
Oooooo pictures of new buildings, and uighurs in ACTUAL prisons...you call that "evidence" of "more than 1 million people are being tortured"?
"so you admitted the existence of the concentration camps in your first comment"
Read properly. I said I GUESS every country has "concentration camps" too then...based on your logic that prisons are concentration camps.
Also, I cant "admit" something that has no relation to me. Can I "admit" that youre brainwashed?
"but when i stated the situation of children and women being systemically raped, women being sterilized, people being tortured etc you then backed up and started saying the camps don't exist at all"
You seem to have problem understanding English and logic in general. There is ZERO credible evidence of any "concentration camps". And I never said they existed. I asked you a question "prisons are concentration camps?". And then made a hypothetical statement that based on YOUR LOGIC, if prisons are concentration camps, then ALL countries have concentration camps.
Theres also NO credible evidence of SYSTEMIC rape/sterilisation/torture of any sort. Only words from anti-China individuals. Words alone mean nothing with zero evidence. Does rape exist? Sure. But you say its SYSTEMIC. What evidence do you have that its SYSTEMIC? Words again?
"you do not care for the people who are dying but only your stupid propaganda"
I care about FACTS. Words from people are not "facts". Facts require hard evidence. Not satellite images of new buildings...Every country build new buildings...
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"There are hundreds of interviews with Uyghurs you can find, they're real people who exist"
And there are hundreds of interviews that DEBUNK these lies. Theyre also real people that exist.
Exposing lies - evidence of fabricated stories
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsQxjFCh5zU
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjy_4xP5lpU
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH4gdxWEFI4
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH6TpV5BmXs
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GndGDGZ_Njs
"Amnesty International has interviewed more than 100 people outside of China whose relatives in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region (XUAR) are still missing, as well as individuals who said they were tortured while in detention camps there"
As mentioned in the videos exposing lies above. Its been debunked. Those people are not "missing". Theyre alive and well. Its those individuals that lied. Why do you believe everything anti-China you hear without verifying?
"my internet is not censored, i know how to do research instead of claiming the whole world is lying, every one that is living today can see those horrors."
Mine isnt either. And if youre from a developed country, the law is innocent until proven guilty. Words alone are not enough to convict someone. ESPECIALLY when their lies have been debunked.
"the fact that you would deny all these very real things and not try to stop them is disgusting"
Because an anti-China group said so, therefore it MUST be real...got it...I now understand how you are so brainwashed...You believe anything anti-China as long as a someone says it...
"Despite initially denying the existence of the camps altogether"
I agree with them. These "camps" never existed. Vocational centres however, did. If you use the wrong words, ofcourse theyre going to deny it. They still deny that there are "concentration camps" till this day.
"let me guess all of these sources are not credible to you because you are so brainwashed you believe everything the ccp tells you and think anything against the ccp is a lie"
What an idiot. Get your head out of the gutter. This has got nothing to do with the CCP. This is not a political matter. This is a legal matter. Words alone are not credible enough to convict anyone of a crime. Otherwise I could say you raped me, then provide a convincing story and you would be in jail.
All your links contain the words "estimate", "believes" etc. I dont know where you learnt your English, but "estimate" and "believes" already tell us theyre not facts...Thats NOT evidence at all. Theyre mere speculations. Do us all a favour and before you go on with your "critical thinking", do some "critical learning" of the English language first.
"www.reuters.com/article/us-china-rights-un/u-n-says-it-has-credible-reports-that-china-holds-million-uighurs-in-secret-camps-idUSKBN1KV1SU"
This is fake news. The UN never said such a thing. An individual that happen to work at the UN said it. Her words does not represent the UN. You and your media need to discern the difference between statement from organisations, and individual statements.
If you insist that the UN did say that, cite me the actual report from the UN website. Primary source is credible. Words from journalists and individuals with no credible citation are not.
www.off-guardian.org/2018/09/19/no-the-un-did-not-report-china-has-massive-internment-camps-for-uighur-muslims/
"every new building in other countries are not a concentration camps"
Same for China. Just because you have pictures of new buildings, doesnt mean theyre "concentration camps" where people get tortured. As I said earlier, zero evidence of people getting tortured. Youre imagining things again.
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@polin1710 Jesus Christ...what a long essay you wrote...cut it down and be succinct will you?
"lets move on to your hysterics and obvious propaganda tactics"
Propaganda tactics? You know whats propaganda tactics? A combination of satellite imagery of new buildings, pictures of prisons, and words. Congratulations, now you believe "concentration camps" exists because of those 3 things...so brainwashed...
"you have stated in your first comment that the concentration camps were "re-education camps" but backed out and started claiming there was no evidence they exist, you lack critical thinking..."
Wrong. Read again. I never said concentration camps existed. You say I lack critical thinking, yet you cant even read basic English properly. Either that or youre imagining things from what people say. No wonder you believe in things that dont exist from mere satellite images and words. YOURE the one that lacks critical thinking. You are brainwashed by literally the 3 things mentioned above.
"all your argument are based on denial, ignorance and emotion as we can see from your comment, you barely contain your obvious incompetence in your doing your own research"
My argument is based on facts. I provided no such emotions. Quote me where I got all emotional. Go on. Bet you cant.
And here youre are claiming Im incompetent when youre the incompetent one that was brainwashed by mere pictures and words.
"claiming that the camps don't exist at all is so patently false and easily proven wrong"
Oh? How can it be proven wrong? More words? And more satellite imagery? What a joke.
"You can literally just hop on Google Maps and find 23 different massive detention camps that didn't exist five years ago"
There we have it. China build buildings all the time. They can even build a whole town in 5 years. My question to you is, HOW DO YOU KNOW WHATS HAPPENING IN THESE BUILDINGS? Because a bunch of anti-Chinese people say XYZ therefore it must be true? Well I can find a group of people that say the opposite, does that mean that is true too? ZERO evidence is what it is. Only words and pictures. You know NOTHING of what goes inside the buildings.
"if evidence is right in front of you and you ignore...easily shows how brainwashed you really are"
Thats not evidence...pictures of newly built buildings doesnt prove torture exists, nor do words of a group of anti-Chinese people hold any water. I say those words right back at you, "easily shows how brainwashed you really are".
"i do not care for the politics or for your idiotic nationalism"
Youre hallucinating. I spoke nothing about politics or nationalism. Im not even speaking about my own country. Yet in your mind youre brainwashed to think anyone not agreeing to you "must be Chinese".
"what i care for is the lives of human beings being taken for nothing other than their religion"
Fake news. If that is true then why when all these countries called China out over their Xinjiang policies, the majority of Muslim countries in this world backed China for its practices of handling religious extremism?
'you are so deep in denial that you call concentration camps "schools" even though you stated they were "prison camps"'
Youre imagining things again. I never stated that. I ASKED you that with a question mark.
Also, I didnt "call" concentration camps "schools". Concentration camps dont exist in China. The buildings that you are referring to are schools. Can you tell the difference in my words Mrs "Critical Thinking"? Or you going to think what you like again just like how you think concentration camps exists based on a few words and pictures.
"so why aren't the han chinese being put in there?"
Thats a great question. Whens the last time you seen a Han extremist?
"why are women being sterilized?"
If women are being sterilised why is the Uighur population growing?
Why are women still giving birth after leaving the centres? Why do these Uighur women seem so angry over the false accusations of women being raped and sterilised? If there was systemic rape, why would they angrily defend these centres instead of calling out the crime? Rape is a crime in China if you didnt know that already...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS4slWZQJxs
"why are they targetting uyghur muslims?"
Because thats who the extremists are targetting? When extremist brainwash people with little to no education, they follow it. Over time, people that follow extremist ideology become extremist themselves too.
Heres a snippet of what goes on inside as well. Does this look lke "torture" to you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91FFyinPK3M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb4v7g6yM0Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiAxAwF3h5w
"you say that they are learning new skills and i am sure if that was the case it would be highly documented but you provide no proof, your "facts" are delusions, denial ridden delusions, so why don't you start thinking logically and while you are at it provide evidence"
Thats gold. You have proven yourself to be delusional by misreading what I wrote and put words in my mouth saying I said that, when in fact I never did. Whos delusional now?
You also claim that Im in denial. Why should I believe something with no credible evidence? Pictures of new buildings and words of anti-Chinese groups arent "evidence". Use your brain. Those people are part of and/or funded an anti-China separatism movement.
So Ill flip that back to you. Why do you deny the fact that satellite imagery actually doesnt prove torture? Why do you deny the fact that words also mean nothing? I could grab a few actors and have them say Person X was raped by Person Z. Heres video evidence of Person X and Person Y walking in the same building. We dont know what happened inside the building. But Person X says she was raped by Person Z. She cried and was very convincing. When in fact he didnt rape her. Are words and imagery really enough "evidence"?
Also, Its documented already...youre just too lazy to find it out yourself. Even if I showed you youre probably going to be like "oh its from a Chinese source therefore it must be fake" or "they were forced to say this"...Only the Chinese media show what REALLY happens inside. Non-Chinese media wouldnt show it because it doesnt suit their narrative.
Since you asked SO NICELY I will provide you a few FIRST HAND evidence of what actually happens inside these centres in addition to the previous links + videos debunking MSM lies. These all contain snippets of what happens inside these "buildings" shown in satellite imagery.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=soPJESgkE5k
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb-MNi8E-TA
And just FYI, the program has now finished now. All trainees have been graduated. Did your media tell you that?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFxrI6smvFU
""you acknowledge the fact that even the chinese government states that they are real without questioning it like a good moron would do"
More delusion. Just look at youre baseless assumption. And here you are telling me to "thinking logically".
Who said I never questioned? I questioned till I saw hard evidence that that was indeed fake news. The world has been lied to by anti-Chinese groups and its supporters.
You also claim that I get emotional, even though I showed no such thing, yet here you are getting all emotional to the point youre getting personal and calling others a "good moron". What a hypocrite.
'then you go on to say "And I never said they existed." so which is it? or do you just not understand English?'
WOW. The person that doesnt understand English suggests that its me that doesnt understand English. I said CONCENTRATION CAMPS dont exist. Not VOCATIONAL/EDUCATIONAL CENTRES dont exists. Learn to discern the difference.
"to you anything that speaks against the concentration camps is not credible, anything telling the truth is not credible, the only thing credible to you is lies and blind nationalism, indoctrination and complete madness"
Opinions. Whats credible to me is hard facts. Nothing else is credible. Regardless if theyre for or against a certain country, like China.
"apnews.com/article/269b3de1af34e17c1941a514f78d764c"
Debunked: www.globaltimes.cn/page/202101/1212073.shtml
"you are just repeating the rhetoric of people hurting human beings and denying it."
Other than words, where is evidence of people hurting people? I need hard evidence to believe something. Otherwise I can take a picture of Black American in prisons, and have a few said they were raped and tortured inside, and then make headlines saying US is putting Blacks in concentration camps, raping and torturing them...
Also, dont give me links without quoting me your point. You expect me to debunk every paragraph of those articles ON TOP of your already long essay?
"but i guess when your media is censored you can't really learn anything or get an honest view other than the same brainwashed propaganda you spout"
More baseless assumption. Who said my media is censored? What information that you receive for you to determine that my media is "censored"
See what I mean by you having a pre-conditioned thought? Imagining things that people didnt say is the first step of being brainwashed. You have a pre-conceived thought that anyone that doesnt agree with you is Chinese or have their media "censored". Absolutely ridiculous.
All Im saying is without credible evidence, you cant convict someone with a crime like how you are doing. That is not how the court of law works. Its innocent until proven guility. Or do you guys have different standards for China?
"at least try hiding it and being less emotional"
More nonsense. Quote me where I have been "emotional". Go on.
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