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@Sean-giang Ah its you again. "Taiwan" doesnt have sovereignty. Its Republic of CHINA that does. Remember, Taiwan is a PART of ROC. And ROC claims to be the country called China, not "Taiwan". The difference between the two Koreas and the "two China" point you made is that the whole world and the UN recognises that there are TWO Koreas, but the whole world and the UN only recognises ONE China (not Two Chinas or One China One Taiwan). It doesnt matter if ROC has sovereignty or not. In this world, its diplomatic relations ie recognition thats the most important factor that defines whether a country is a "country" or not. Having sovereignty is just ONE of the many check boxes.
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@Sean-giang "well too bad your opinion didn't change the fact taiwan is sovereign and has never been a part of the prc ir the fact taiwan is the roc as taiwan now since the xinhai revolution so" What I stated are facts, not opinions. And I suggest you not speak about topics you clearly dont know enough about. Taiwan was still part of Japan during the Xinhai revolution. So how can Taiwan "be" ROC since the Xinhai revolution when they were part of Japan then? And again, "Taiwan" does NOT have sovereignty, never has, never will. Its Republic of China that has sovereignty. And Taiwan is PART of ROC, not Taiwan "is" ROC. In fact, till this day, Taiwan is still referred to a mere province of China in their very own constitution.
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@Sean-giang "well maybe you should apply for a visa to go there" Again, sovereignty means nothing without recognition. Theres a reason why the world does not recognise Taiwan as a country. "roc is located in taiwan fyi" Wrong wording. If you want to speak politics, then you have to use the correct wordings. Thats like saying USA is located in Hawaii.
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@Sean-giang "but the US is located in hawaii" You missed the point. That was not worded correctly. Its not that the US is located in Hawaii, but rather Hawaii is located in the US. Understand? "not my fault you never been to Taiwan or Hawaii" Baseless opinions, and irrelevant.
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@Sean-giang "taiwan is located between China and japan" Are we talking geography or politics now? "when was taiwan part of the prc. Can you give me a year. Can you tell me who from the ccp governs taiwan" Not once did I ever say Taiwan was part of PRC. I always have said Taiwan is part of China. Both ROC and PRC claim to be the country called "China", and BOTH say that Taiwan is a part of that China. The disagreement between ROC and PRC is who is the legitimate ruler of this China.
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@Sean-giang No. As mentioned earlier, theres something called "recognition" (or formal diplomatic relations) in this world that you dont seem to be getting. The world does NOT recognise Taiwan as a country, they recognise Taiwan as part of China. NK and SK on the otherhand, the whole world RECOGNISES their existence as TWO separate countries. Moreover, the Chinese Civil War still has not technically ended yet. No armistice nor peace treaty was every signed. And civil war means war within the SAME COUNTRY. So no, by definition and recognition theyre not "two" separate countries.
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@Sean-giang "and both the koreans are just laughing now at mainlanders" Irrelevant. But why would they be laughing? Their country is also split. "Fuck even north korea already knows taiwan is a country" Wrong. They dont recognise Taiwan as a country. "How else do they label enemy nations?" They can label it as "XYZ forces" or "XYZ rebels" or "XYZ militants" or "XYZ terrorists" etc etc.
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@Sean-giang Or in Taiwans case, saying Taiwan specifically refers to the island of Taiwan, not the "country" of Taiwan, as Taiwan is the name of the island afterall, not the name of the "country".
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@Sean-giang "well south korea is still just the southern half of korea and we still refer to it as just the country korea when referring to the rok" Thats because there is no North Koreans outside of Korea, theyre closed off the the rest of the world if you havent realised by now. But if there was, people would not be referring to Korea as South Koreans only. But regardless, although understandable, its politically incorrect. "same with taiwan when referring to the roc or one of the china's" Thats why the politically ignorant say. Stop trying to justify those that are politically ignorant. Taiwan is the name of the island. Since ROC now only has control over the island the ignorant (and those with agendas) call ROC as Taiwan. But the fact of the matter is, ROC claims not only Taiwan, but the whole Mainland China as their territory as well. And the country ROC claims to be is the country called "China", not "Taiwan" or "East China" or whatever. Just "China". The very same China PRC claims to be. Its called a CIVIL war for a reason, war within the SAME country - not war between two different countries. "and xyz taiwan is a country" Says no country in the world
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@Sean-giang "oh OK so the prc is just west taiwan" Again, thats politically incorrect. No country in this world recognises a country called "Taiwan" let alone a "West Taiwan". The name of a country is in its full name. Peoples Republic of CHINA or Republic of CHINA. You dont see a "Taiwan" anywhere in its full name. "At least the roc actually governed the mainland whereas the prc never had taiwan" Irrelevant. Previous control is not what defines a country. Its recognition that does.
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@Sean-giang "sovereignty makes a country" There are many people in the US that claim their block of land is their own country. They have their own "military", "laws", "education", flag, etc etc. Are they a country? Without formal recognition, theyre nothing. Thats why recognition is important. "Go ask vietnam. They remembered being a country despite limited recognition" North or South? Vietnam was not whole for decades. And just because people "think" or "remember" them being a country, doesnt mean they were recognised to be one. In the international stage, recognition is key. Without it, theyre nothing. "Go ask Kosova. They're sovereign" My point is that sovereignty is just ONE of the many checkpoints on being a country. So even if they have sovereignty, that means nothing if theres only partial support.
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