Comments by "Yerris" (@yerri5567) on "How China Is Framing the Hong Kong Protests | NYT News" video.

  1. Apparently CIA dogs too
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  2. “Yea, we pretty sure they involved. Not sure how tho” They already know how. It is NYT that doesnt know how.
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  3. | Hip-hop culture is black culture. Not "Western". It is the Whites that adopted Black hip-hip culture.
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  4.  @user-c3jdf9lylzse  "Black culture is part of western sub-culture...it started in America by black americans who are also considered westerners" Although I have nothing wrong with you sayings its "American" culture, Id have to disagree with you on Blacks being considered "Westerners". Westerners is a term generally used to described those of European civilisation. The term had roots from extensive trade between the "East" and the "West". Africans were never in the picture. So Blacks arent considered from the "West" even though they live there. Otherwise a Chinese-American living in the US would also be called a "Westerner"...
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  5.  @markiss7620  "America is often included when mentioning "the west". And an American born Chinese is still American and western to me" Yes, the US has roots from the British which is a European civilisation. The founders were European, theres nothing surprising about that. But a US born Chinese is not a "Westerner", but merely an "Easterner" raised in the West.
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  6.  @markiss7620  Lets agree to disagree. Its all about perspective and what the definition is. Since there is no universal consensus on the definition, this argument could go back and forth without getting anywhere.
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  7.  @markiss7620  "I just don't think your parent's nationality overrules your acual birthplace" Yeh except Im not speaking about birthplace, Im speaking about genetics here.
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  8.  @markiss7620  An Asian raised in town that is completely White will still not be recognised as their own even when raised with "Western" values. Same goes the other way, if a White American was raised in China with "Eastern" values, he will also still not be recognised as their own. So its not just about "values", genetics comes into play as well.
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  9. ​ @markiss7620  Therefore, "values" and birthplace are not the defining factor as what constitutes as a "westerner" or an "easterner". And only major cities in the US are not homogeneous. Most towns in the US are rather homogeneous. Just look at the Mid West. Also, I never said "cast out". I said they wont be regarded as one of their own, i.e. completely "fit in". As I mentioned earlier, the terms "westerner" and "easterner" came abouts when the West (Europe) and the East (East Asia) first started interacting and trading with each other. Africa and the Americas was not in the picture. Therefore, a "Westerner" or someone from the West is regarded as a White person descended from Europe, and a "Easterner" is someone descended from the East. Place of birth, nor abode, nor "values" can change that.
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  10. ​ @markiss7620  "I belive it's geological location and values. America and Europe are considered "the west" so anyone raised here with our values would be western...Just seems silly to be part of a geologically western country, that part of "the west" but not be considered "western" based on race" Yes, if raised in a western civilisation, ones values would be western. As mentioned earlier, an Asian raised in the US is merely a "Easterner" raised with "Western" values. America and Europe is considered the "West" because the people there are predominately of European descent. The Americas is also geographically located in the "west" yet no one refers to an American Indian or an Amazon as someone from the "west". Also, Australia is geographically located in the far East, yet is also considered the "West". From this we can conclude its not based off modern day geographic locations. As for values, if a Chinese person born in China spent his whole life in China, but was raise with western values, does that make this person a "westerner" simply because of having western values? I dont think so. Therefore, having "western" values does not simply make one a "westerner". Its based on race, specifically those of European descent. "I've never heard that the west are just the white countries, not to mention both America and Europe are extremely diverse" The US is 75% White and Europe is 95%+ White. Thats not "extremely diverse" in my books... 'It would be pretty silly if "the west" only meant white becuase every major western contry has had huge minority populations for centuries' Your "huge" minority population is probably just Black people. 2 races that make up 95%+ of a citys population is not called diverse. "America itself is about to become 50% white if it hasn't already" No, the statistics shows its close to 75%. White Hispanics are also descendents of Europeans. '"only major cities are not homogenous" Well that's just not true. All cities here are very diverse since cities make up most of our population' Maine - 95.0% White Vermont - 94.9% White New Hampshire - 93.7% White West Virginia - 93.6% White Idaho - 91.7% White Iowa - 91.2% White Wyoming - 91.0% Im sorry but the numbers tell a different story. If you exclude California and New York out of the equation, the US would be well over 80% White, with the remainder mostly Black. As a country, not diverse at all. Only larger coastal cities are diverse. 'Again I've never heard that being "western" is being white' Maybe not in your country, but the vast majority of the world certainly has that view.
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