Comments by "Yerris" (@yerri5567) on "How Australia cheated East Timor of its oil" video.

@wisdomleader85 "Two wrongs don't make a right. Australia's guilt doesn't vindicate China's" Sure. But the "wrongs" are not qualified to call out the others "wrongs".
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@Stoogis "that is just silly, it makes them hypocrites sure but it doesn't mean you can't call out another countries hypocrisy" Oh you can call out whatever you want. But hypocrites words are like background noise. Its like a child complaining someone stole their lunchbox when they themselves stole anothers lunchbox first.
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@Stoogis "Australia's hypocrisy is nothing compared to the level of China's." Do elaborate. I feel theres going to some misinformation on this part
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@Stoogis "denial of the damage of chairman maos Great Leap Forward" What denial are you talking about? Its taught in school that that the GLF was poor policy that resulted in many deaths. Where you getting your news from? "denial of the violent occupation of Tibet at around the same time" Tibet has been part of China for longer than USA has been a country. Just look at Qing Dynasty map and when Tibet was incorporated into China. China only temporarily lost control over its borders due to foreign invasions and civil conflict. If anything, it was Tibet that was illegally trying to separate from China by using force. How does that work for any country when a state illegally wants to separate while using violence? Theyll obviously be met with force... "breaking international agreements 27 years into a 50 year agreement" The joint declaration is not legally binding. But even so, it was not China that broke the "agreement". It was Hong Kong that violated Article 23 their own Basic Law (aka their mini constitution) first. Article 23: "Hong Kong shall enact laws on its own to prohibit any act of treason, secession, sedition, subversion against the Central People's Government, or theft of state secrets, to prohibit foreign political organizations or bodies from conducting political activities in the Region, and to prohibit political organizations or bodies of the Region from establishing ties with foreign political organizations or bodies." The above prohibitions were clearly violated in the riots. Yet nothing was done about it. HK broke the agreement, not China. "denial of student protest massacre in 1989" Ahh this one I had a great time looking into. The biggest propaganda of them all, repeated year after year. So many foreign journalist and foreign media at that time. Yet not ONE shred of evidence of "tank crushing students" we all hear about. Yes, people died. Question is, who started it? Was it the military pointing guns to kill innocents indiscriminately? Or did those died attacked and obstructed military from their duties during martial law? Because let me tell you this, it was not a one-sided "massacre". Evidence shows lynching of military personnel, hanging them and burning them alive... "new one that comes to mind denial of the deaths in the recent floods - particularly the ones caused by human error / greed / incompetence" What does natural disaster have anything to do with being hypocritical? And when did China ever accuse any other country of deaths from natural disaster "caused by human error / greed / incompetence"? So yes, a lot of misinformation and disinformation out there. Especially on China. What you hear about a lot through the media might not what it seems to be. And before anyone reading is second guessing, this is a topic of interest for me. So naturally I looked into these situation in greater depth. Especially the well-known or outrageous ones.
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@Stoogis "Under your logic no country ever could hold to account or criticise another country. Every countries government has done something distasteful in another's perspective" If a country has committed genocide, theyre not qualified (keyword) to call others out for genocide. They can however, call them out for something else they have not committed themselves. Also, there are 3rd party organisation that can call other countries out. Theres also the UN.
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@Stoogis "this isn't children though, this is a countries government representatives, that is not a fitting analogy at all" Same thing. Its like US accusing countries like China of "invasion", whether itd be HK, Tibet, Taiwan or SCS. US as a country is founded upon invasion and has invaded many countries...Its almost laughable when I hear about it.
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@Stoogis "you keep changing the goal posts" What? No? If anything it was you that did. My original comment was about hypocrisy. Your comments was about "denials". Hypocrisy and denials are completely different topics... "ok then well Australia can call out China for most of its atrocities" Im not sure what atrocities youre talking about? The aforementioned few you written above? "Your argument is still pretty weak though" Do elaborate on why its "weak" "Taking advantage of a country after you've just helped it get its independence isn't on the same level" What are you talking about? Afghanistan? Afghanistan had been independent for a long time. And how on earth did China supposedly "help" the Taliban win? If anything it was the US that did. And way with your words there, "taking advantage". Why is any country meant to "wait"? Why is forging diplomatic relationship called "taking advantage"? Every single country will eventually forge diplomatic relationship with the new Afghan govt yet when China does it its automatically "bad"? "you need to redo your research then friend, without the CPC propaganda" And thats exactly what Ive done. I know both sides of the story. And I have done my due diligence to verify the information that I have is true. Have you? "I was being intentionally vague to give you enough rope to hang yourself which you have done so very effectively" You are entitled to your opinions. "I'm not going to break down each thing you said because it's so so clearly misguided communist propaganda" Thats a weak argument. It shows youre not ready to engage in a proper conversation that you can back it up with. "There is proof out there, both video proof and many many witnesses from within and outside China that flies in the face of everything you've stated" Tanks running over protesters? Please. Find me video or photo evidence on that. If you can do just that one thing. You win. Im ready to so-called "hang myself" with that comment. Do everyone a favour and find that piece of evidence so we can all close this case once and for all. "you can keep pretending the CPC is benevolent and good but you're only lying to yourself" And this my friend this is how misinformation spreads. The information that is delivered to you is COMPLETELY different to what comes out of you. I have NEVER ONCE stated or even remotely suggested that the CCP is "benevolent" or "good". I merely objectively stated facts in rebuttal to your remarks. Not one instance did I make and positive comment about them. If you insist I did, quote me. "the problem with your train of thought is you're confusing China the historical country and CPC's China" Wrong. Everything I mentioned was modern China, based on facts. And whats "historical country" even suppose to mean? You mean Ancient China? What did I say that even remotely suggest that? "just as China splintered when the communists took power" Poor analogy. China was already "splintered" before the communist even took power. "If you want to say the SCS belongs to China because of an old map then basically the whole worlds oceans belongs to the British" Nope. You said that yourself. Never had that thought at all. "Just as it's dated to say america stole its lands so can't criticise China now. We live in a completely different era" Different Era? You pretending US have not invaded countries in modern times? "Genocide" among Blacks is also in question in modern times too. "and by your train of thought with Taiwan, if the CPC attacks Taiwan then it would be like if the USA attacked Canada and said because once the native people were across all Northern America they have the right to annex Canada" Wrong. The conflict between Taiwan (Republic of CHINA) and Mainland Chinas PRC is a matter of civil war. Civil war means war within the same country. The civil war has technically not ended yet, no peace treaty was ever signed. And your US-Canada analogy again is a poor analogy. US and Canada are both Anglo-founded countries and still run by Anglos. The natives there are still oppressed. And this is not a matter of race/ethnicity, its about sovereignty. Sovereignty doesnt look at race. What by my "train of thought"? You have a bad habit of making false assumptions on others "train of thought". Not good when youre wrong is it? Shows how credible your words are.
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