Comments by "Yerris" (@yerri5567) on "Why Taiwan is NOT the Next Ukraine" video.

  1.  Tim Loo2  What ever the reasons, you still need not address my point: LOCAL Taiwan feel the military threat from PRChina. That was my response to what the OP was claiming, that "People in Taiwan do not feel the military thread from China"
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  2. Bryan Wang You must be out of touch with local Taiwanese if you think they dont feel the military threat from PRChina...Why are you to decide for others on how they feel? Are you a local in Taiwan? There was an interview conducted not too long ago by Asian Boss, about how local Taiwanese feel about China (inc military ). Things were NOT great. PRC is constantly sending military operations crossing the Taiwan strait into Taiwans side of their ADIZ...
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  3.  Tim Loo2  What are you on about? Youre saying a lot of irrelevant things to the topic at hand here. At this point youre just ranting... "Time for taiwan to return to china. Just like the confederates should not succeed" From ROCs point of view, as the legal successor of Qing, its CCP that needs to rejoin ROC. The Confederates is like PRC, the rebelling government, to the legitimate USA/ROC
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  4.  Tim Loo2  Again, youre going off into irrelevant topics that I never spoke about. There are millions of issues on this planet. Want to talk about those as well?? Stay on topic will you?
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  5.  @Shenzhou.  If youre going to put it that way then PRCs ADIZ in the East China Sea also isnt recognised. Would China not feel provoked if Japan sent military jets into that airspace? And say they were actually flying closer to Japan than China? And just FYI, just because most of the time they flew closer to Mainland China than Taiwan, doesnt mean ALL the time they did. There were a number of instances where PRC flew closer to Taiwan than Mainland China. Anyways, my comment was in response to the OP saying "people in Taiwan do not feel the military threat from China", when they clearly do.
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  6.  @Shenzhou.  Hmmm my comment keeps getting deleted... There were many instances. Type "taiwan adiz incursions" in G images. Each pic shows flight incursions for 1 day. There were a number of days shown that PLAAF flew closer to Taiwan than the mainland.
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  7.  @Shenzhou.  Taiwans ADIZ is not huge. PRCs, Japans, and SKs ADIZ is even larger. Especially considering the fact that half of it isnt even realistic since half is designated on mainland territory. What is Taiwans "actual" airspace? Taiwans half of their ADIZ right? Im not sure why you werent able to see what I saw, but these were the ones that I saw that flew into Taiwans side of their ADIZ closer to Taiwan than the mainland: Mar 26 Apr 7 Jun 15,26 Sept 17, 21, 23, 27 Oct 1 Nov 28 Most if not all is 2021. But Im sure theres more if we dig into each day one by one.
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  8.  @Shenzhou.  "Around half of Taiwan's ADIZ extends into mainland territory itself, meaning that PLAAF jet's travelling in mainland airspace are recorded" Im not sure why half of Taiwans ADIZ is in mainland China, but I dont think Taiwan cares if PRC flies on the mainland half of their ADIZ. Its only when they cross the strait that theyre alarmed and feel threatened. "It's insane how huge Taiwan's ADIZ is as you can see from the images" And as I mentioned earlier, Taiwans regional neighbours ADIZs are even larger. "A county's airspace is defined as the portion of the atmosphere controlled by a country above its territory, including its territorial waters. That means it encompasses region of Taiwan island as well as 12 Nautical Miles of territorial waters around the island. But PLAAF jet flew further than 12 NM away from Taiwan island, so they did not intrude into Taiwan's airspace" By your explanation, PRCs ADIZ also holds no water. So if Japan, US etc flies their military jets into Chinas ADIZ outside of Chinas "actual airspace", China will not feel threatened? But the question is not whether one party flew over anothers territory or not, its whether one party feels threatened from anothers military actions. Remember, the main point that I was addressing was the OPs comment that "people in Taiwan do not feel the military threat from China". They clearly do.
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  9.  @Shenzhou.  "But where in my explanation (that you quoted) did I talk about ADIZ?" My first comment was about ADIZ. Your first comment to me was also about ADIZ. Since we are talking about ADIZ, and the threat of incursion of ADIZ, the response was in the context of ADIZ. Since you said for Taiwans ADIZ, "if you trace the flight path of those PLAAF jets, they actually flew closer to mainland China than Taiwan island", I also can make that comparison with PRCs ADIZ, Japan and US etc flying into PRC ADIZ thats closer to Japan than mainland China. With all these offensive military jets flying into another countrys ADIZ thats closer to the other country than they are from their country of origin, is that not a military threat?
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  10.  @Shenzhou.  "Then you said: "By your explanation, PRCs ADIZ also holds no water." so where in my explanation did I talk about ADIZ? You even specifically quoted my explanation, so why are you suddenly jumping back to your first comment? It's like you're trying to move the goal post after founding out that you're been cornered" Not at all. It makes perfect sense to me. If you dont like my wordings then replace "explanation" with "logic", or add a "then" before "PRCs ADIZ". "Alright, where's the example of Japanese jets in China's ADIZ that's flying closer to Japan than mainland China, if you want such a comparison?" You realise comparisons can be hypothetical right? If you dont like the word "comparison" then replace it with the word "example". Dont let simple things such as wordings distract you from the actual point: its a threat. "And in case you didn't know, the U.S jets in China's ADIZ are so much farther from the American mainland as compared to the Chinese mainland" And thats a threat is it not?
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  11. ​ @Shenzhou.  'You first quoted my explanation, then you said "By your explanation, PRCs ADIZ also holds no water." so it's evident that you're referring to my explanation.' You seem to have not read my previous comment properly. By using the word "also", Im implying the LOGIC behind your explanation also satisfies the point Ive raised, not referring to the WORDING of your explanations. If the word "also" doesnt satisfies you, then add a "then" before PRCs ADIZ so it becomes "By your explanation, then PRCs ADIZ also holds no water". "But where in my explanation did I talk about ADIZ? I was explaining the definition of airspace, then why'd you quote my explanation when it has nothing to do with ADIZ (which is a separate definition from a country's airspace)?" Refer back to your previous comments before that. My comment was in response to your comment that was responding to my comment before that etc etc. This whole conversation between me and you stemmed from ADIZ. Thats the context. And thats why Im referring back to ADIZ. "And why'd you suddenly jump to your first comment being about ADIZ, when it's clear that you're referring to my explanation of what airspace is? Isn't that moving the goalpost?" No its not. How is asking you what you mean by "Taiwan airspace" a "goalpost"? Thats just a side question. I was simply just trying to understand what you mean by that. Its your misinterpretation of that, and the word "also" that weve come to this. By saying "also" in this case, Im referring to the LOGIC of the explanation that you raised to make my point, not referring to the WORDINGS of your explanations... Youre arguing over semantics at this point. My main point is that Taiwan feels threatened from all these military incursions. Address it if you want to continue on this issue, not go around in circles commenting on the English instead of the main issue Ive raised. Otherwise this will become an English language discussion... "So now you're comparing real events (that PLAAF jet's flight path was closer to mainland China than Taiwan) with hypothetical examples?" I already provided you with the search terms and dates PLAAF flew closer to Taiwan than Mainland China. These are REAL events. Yet you still bring up that the paths were closer to mainland China than Taiwan? And what do you mean by "now"? Ive always had? The hypothetical examples I gave is for you to understand the threat that that poses. "And again, which U.S jet has flown into China's ADIZ on the East China Sea?" And what do you mean by "again"? This is your first time asking that. It was you that stated "And in case you didn't know, THE U.S JETS IN CHINA'S ADIZ are so much farther from the American mainland as compared to the Chinese mainland". And does it even have to be jets at this point? Even an aircraft carrier through the Taiwan straight PRC already feels alarmed and threatened. And a reminder, main point of what I said is about feeling threatened. Do address it if you have something to say.
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