Comments by "mpetersen6" (@mpetersen6) on "Stefan Milo" channel.

  1. Neanderthals lived through numerous climate swings and in different environment so I doubt it was climate.
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  2. Brings a whole new meaning to "put another log on the fire"
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  3.  @lesliesylvan  Yes if it keeps up at 3% per annum. Backwards compound interest sort of. But new know that Neanderthal ate more than just meat. The recent study of Neanderthal teeth with out cleaning them first has revealed that they where eating processed plant foods. As Stefan says it was most likely a number of factors. Up to and including possible predation by our ancestors. The relative scarcity of Neanderthal remains and habitation sites (these were lost by any number of means, erosion, plowed under for farming etc.) makes it unlikely we will never know
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  4. Entirely possible. IMO more likely as either passengers on a trading vessel or they charted a trading vessel. That vessel could have originated in either India or SE Asia. The spice merchants along the Malabar Coast knew they had a good thing going. They were getting rich buying cheap and selling high. The last thing they wanted was the Roman's or their agents finding a way of going to the source. In the 1600s when the Dutch started sending fleets to the "Indies" they ould lose every ship in the fleet except one that got back and still make a fortune.
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  5. ​ @cacogenicist  I would not be surprised if some oral histories/legends about floods can be traced to either sea level rise or floods related to melt water release as the ice sheets retreated.
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  6. Yodeling Neanderthals 👍👍, works for me Seriously, they were able to survive in multiple environments. They survived through multiple glacial and inter-glacial periods. They made stone tools. And beyond some wooden spears we have no idea just what level of technology using organic materials they had. DNA research has opened a new window on their capabilities. I suspect that the more sites we find, the more we will be forced to change our opinion of just what they could do. One thing I wonder about is did they sometimes keep pets. If so they were started down the road to keeping domesticated animals
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  7.  christopher snedeker  See, here's proof Climate Change was caused by Paleolitic hunter gathers burning fossil fuels! Now we know why all the continental ice sheets melted. Bring back the ICE! Sarcasm mode off. Of course the beauty of heating with wood it heats you multiple times. Once when you cut it. Once when you split it. Once when you stack it. Once more when you bring it in the house. And finally as you sit in front of the fire place on a chilly evening. Provided all the heat just doesn't go up the chimney. PS I suspect that humans have been utilizing surface deposits of coal a lot longer than we realize.
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  8. Gee, I didn't know that Vietnam looked like the PNW👍👍
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  9. Poi, no. Like the shirt though. I thought the jury was still out on how the sweet potato got to Polynesia
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  10. Could the spear have possibly originated as a tool for spearing fish. Most likely a reasonably straight sharpened stick.
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  11.  @arthas640  When everything stinks (including you and everyone around you) nothing stinks.
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  12. Then basically metallurgy could have begun with the Jomon. Personally I think one of the first copper ages could well have been in the Lake Superior region due to the generous amounts of nearly pure float copper.
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  13. And every single place they are found is a "temple"
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  14. ​ @Martiandawn  I have no issue with people who hunt and eat their kills. It is certainly more honest than buying meat at the store and then complain about hunters and hunting. But "hunters" who strictly want a trophy. Those l have no use for. I worked with an individual who saved for several years to go on a bow hunting trip to South Africa. He obviously could not bring back the meat. All he could bring back was the mounts and several skins. With the appropriate paperwork that showed all animals were taken with the proper licenses etc. He said that if he shot an animal that he had a license for and they could not find the animal he would still lose the use of the license. The people running the hunting camp took the prime cuts. Loins or steaks. The local people who worked for the hunting camp took everything else. Nothing or very little went to waste. He also said that it was allowed to shoot as many feral pigs as you wanted. They were invasive and destructive to the local environment.
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  15. ​ @StonedtotheBones13  Some are. And some likely aren't.
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  16.  @HerrGesetz  With floresiensis I think a lot depends on just what their level of cognitive abilities were. Brain size while of some importance in my opinion is less important than complexity and internal connectivity. The worlds smallest living woman is approximately 24 inches tall and weighs 12 pounds. Yet she has full mental abilities. To me this proves that the Hobbits could have well been capable of levels of mental abilities on par with their Homo Erectus cousins. Who most likely weren't as dumb as some in the general population think. We can thank the "cave man" charactures for that
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  17. Probably any of the fringe element long on speculation a d short on evidence.
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  18. Yah, right. I will grant that during the last glacial maximum the total area above the waves would have been much larger.
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  19.  @StefanMilo  I think we can agree that the oldest leather shoes go way back into what passes for human deep time. They may have been sections of skin wrapped around the foot and tied off. But they still qualify. Amongst the oldest crafts still practiced basket weaving has to be right up there. The natives of the interior PNW seem to have used primarily materials as you stated. The natives of the Eastern Woodlands it seems would have used more wood strips. In Europe I wonder about the use of fiber from Beech trees. I see it today used for linens. Of course there is flax. How about an article on the origins of silk production
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  20. First choice, The Eyed Needle. Second, textiles. Third, the spear thrower. Fourth, The Means to Preserve Food. This game is one that the player will never win. It will always devolve into "yah, but what if". The needle was required for fitted clothing required for humanity's expansion beyond our home range in Africa. Textiles which probably began as interwoven branches or foliage used for shelters meant that people no longer needed to rely on skins alone for clothing or to carry needed items. The Spear Thrower extended man's ability to kill game or deliver the same thrown shaft harder at a given distance. Preserving food. Drying foods in the sun. Salting etc. Pottery while critical IMO is only really useful once a band has a reasonably settled life. Pottery was not required to provide watertight containers for fluids. Skin bags and hollowed out gourds will suffice. Skin bags/pots can be used for cooking. The hafted axe or spear is a reasonable choice. Only spears do not absolutely require stone tips. Bone can work perfectly well. Besides how far back does the hafted tool go? 100KY? 200KY? More?
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  21.  @ericsalles3393  Yup. That ice had to be meters thick within 9° of the Equator. Even during the glacial maximum there were still tropical zones with jungles
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  22. I have my doubts about a fully or nearly complete specimen of Neanderthal being preserved in the ice or permafrost. The areas they are known to have inhabited have not had permafrost for thousands of years. Unless there have been Neanderthal remains found near the Artic Ocean. Any glacial areas unless the subject is shelteted from ice movement as was Ötzi will have long been melted as the ice flows down hill. The only places with ice old enough is the Continental Ice Caps on Greenland and Antarctica.
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  23. During the Apollo Program critics were known to say. "We sent people all the way to the Moon and they bring back rocks." What did they expect, aged green cheese?
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  24. Did the proto Vietnamese develop Bronze on their own? Possibly, possibly not. But we will never really know. The question is. What is the tin source? Or was it Arsenic based?
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  25. The Biblical flood story IMO can be traced to either the flooding of the current Persian Gulf or the Black Sea. The basic event. Not the embellishments.
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  26. There is a difference between areas on the continent talking shelf that is above or below sea level and islands that are formed and disappear through geological processes. Volcanic islands do undergo collapse over time but any thing recent would still show up on ocean bottom mapping. Personally I think most if not all early immigration into the Americas (1) took place along the coasts. 1) Aside from Alaska
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  27.  @AlexSalikan  The stone circles that Ballard found off of Galipoli in Anzac Cove (1) when foing a survey of the wrecks of Allied warships from WWI certainly show that things were being built. The area was last above sea level 8000 BCE or 8000 years ago. Then there are the structures found in the Bay of Mumbai. I'm not saying that there was some highly advanced technological civilization at that time. Simply there was more going on than we think. 1) entirely by accident.
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  28.  @RandomPlaceHolderName  Rather than labeling the earlier stuff far right I think a better term might be Eurocentric or Ethnocentric.
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  29.  @RandomPlaceHolderName  No I'm not. I'm referring to the work and outlook that existed pre 1900. As to the use of left or right I think it's a far too simplistic way of looking at politics or social views. A far better method in my opinion is the dual axis method or even better a three axis method. Now just how you define the axis's is another matter.
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  30. It's my understand that even today the occasional fishing boat from West Africa drifts ashore along the Brazilian coast.
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  31. The Spanish could well be from Armada sailors wrecked along the Irish coast trying to get back to Spain What about your Neanderthal addmix
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  32. Probably more likely the coin ended up there through various trading deals. A lot of Roman coinage had to have ended up in South Asia and SouthEast Asia simply due to the amount of spices the Romans imported. That drain on the Roman economy could be compared to the trade imbalances the US has seen with imported oil (1) and manufactured goods. 1) l remember a comment made by somebody in the 70s that having an energy policy that tied you to whims of Arab shieks. It wasn't a policy but willingly being the victim of an extortion racket
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  33.  @OpenMicRejects  Astronomical Events? Observed supernova? Possible Lunar or Earth impact events? There appear to be trace evidence of an impact event that happened in the Gulf of Carpinteria in the form of Chevron Dunes. Curiously these dunes do not appear in what should have been the 'shadow' created by islands in the gulf itself.
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  34.  @zachjohnson6672  Likely the first human complaint about passing gas happened after dogs were domesticated. Dogs are much worse. And the are all SBDs. PS When everyone stinks. Nobody notices
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  35.  @jrrarglblarg9241  The Pole Star not only changes through the Processional Cycle (1) but also due to changes over time in the distances and viewing relationships between the Sun and neighboring stars due to stellar motion. All the stars in the galaxy are orbiting the central black hole. While currently Alfa Centari is the closest star (2) this will change due the motion of the Sun and its neighbors. If a star passes close enough, say 1.5 LY or less, this can cause comet orbits in a small region if the Ort Cloud to be perturbed. This can cause comets to possibly leave the Sun's Ort Cloud for the passing star's Ort Cloud. Leave the Ort Cloud and not be bound to orbit any star. Or to loose enough orbital velocity that its orbit then takes it into the Solar System proper.
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  36.  @eroelser  If you are refering to the Missoula Floods at the end of the last Glacial Advance there were other massive flood events. But some of these floods did not have the massive errosional effects of the Missoula Flood events due in part to the gradient, confinement of flood waters etc.the flood events that released water impounded around or under the Laurentide Ice Sheet were larger but spread over a far wider area. Massive flood events also are associated with the Finno-Scandanavian and Tibetan Ice Sheets. The English Channel was formed due Glacial Mega Floods. The largest known flood event to have taken place on Earth is the flooding of the Mediterranean Basin 6Ma. Mars in the distant past also suffered massive flood events.
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  37.  @awolffromamongus875  If Burkle happened. Unless there has been confirmation of the impact event it's all based on inferred evidence. Primarily the presence of Chevron Dune structures on Madagascar and in Western Australia. There is one oral tradition about a boulder on a mountain on Sri Lanka at around 4500 ft/1,365M that was left there by a massive wave. Logically the vast majority of impact events should happen in the ocean basins simply because they are so much of the Earths surface. There was an atmospheric detonation of an object over the Bearing Sea a couple of years ago that went unnoticed due to cloud cover and time of year. It was only discovered when somebody examined photos from a weather satellite and found the debris trail from its passage through the atmosphere. Data from early warning satellites has shown that atmospheric detonations of objects is far more common than previously thought.
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  38.  @AtomicDoorknob  Most of the oral traditions about a flood covering the whole world likely date to the end of the last Glacial Advance. Probably associated with two seperate pulses of melt water entering the World Ocean causing massive rises in sea levels. Or the floods of the melt water.
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  39.  @AlexSalikan  One needs to keep in mind that the areas of Eurasia that were in glacial conditions and the environments surrounding them only contained a small portion of hominids. The overwhelming majority of hominids would have lived in regions with far better climate. Also since Neanderthal fossils have been found in the Middle East just where did Neanderthal arise. I don't doubt that Neanderthal had adaptations to the cold in those areas. Part of the problem IMO is for far to long the study of early hominids was too Eurocentric while today is has become too Afrocentric. The whole story of our history is far more complicated than just the ones region.
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  40.  @garethbaus5471  I wonder what the proof was 🤔
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  41. While the Long House is of course well known and wide spread. I wonder about the circular stone structures found by Bob Ballard off of the Dardanelles in around 2005. These stone circles have to my knowledge not investigated due to issues with sunken WWI warships being in the vicinity. The take I've heard is that these were some type of religious structure. Which seems to me to be almost a default position. My thought is could these structurescould well have been communal living structures for an extended family or clan depending on size. The largest is about 50 meters in diameter. The structures have a perimeter wall with a central stone structure that is taller. These stone circles were last above water circa 8000 BCE
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  42. There is also the possibility that the styles evolved independently. Also were the styles in use at the same time.
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  43. It's one thing to not discount them. It is another thing to accept all of them as literal truth. Myths IMO either have a basis in a historical event. Or an attempt to explain things beyond the human experience.
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  44. Milo and the clan are tracking a herd of reindeer. The clan is short on flint for spear points. The nearest quality flint source they know about is days away. It all comes done to a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do. Besides bone or antler points should be adequate and I'm thinking they'd have more range
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  45. I think the criticism is valid. It doesn't meet the Sagan level of proof. The one about extraordinary claims needing extraordinary evidence. But as more evidence dribbles in worldwide our picture of the peopling of not only America but the world in general will get both clearer and murkier at the same time. I suspect that one of the reasons for human expansion has been population pressures. Hunter gatherers need more area than farmers in general. A clan or tribe gets so large and part splits off to find new ranges. Another thing that may have happened is a chain reaction of migration. Group A pushes Group B who pushes Group C etc. One thing that bothers me about any seeming reasonable idea is that these ideas can attract the people on the fringe. Look at the Solutrean Hypothesis. Yes its controversial. Predictably certain racist groups latched on to it. Never mind that Dennis Stanford has never said the Solutreans were what today we call Europeans. This idea of course gets attacked from the other side as racist because it seeks to dispossess Native Americans. But what if it's true. Also what if there were a series of waves of migration. Not only into the Americas but world wide. How much has the topography of North America changed because of the Wisconsin and Illinois glacial periods and the flooding that would have accompanied the retreating of the ice sheets. All it takes is one solid site to cause a complete rethinking of what we think we know. If I were a graduate student in archeology or anthropology I would seriously consider looking at sites with known ash layers that can be traced to known and dated eruptions. And start looking under those layers.
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  46. We can guess. Even make educated guesses. But they are still guesses. Here's my guess. Older hunter talks to young men just getting ready for their first big hunt. The older hunter points to the skull of an aurochs. Then at himself and the others of his generation. And tells the youths. We did that. We killed a bull. We lived. The bull died. We ate. We got the hide. Now can you striplings live up to that. Trophies and motivational tools.
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  47. Well horses and camels did exist in North America pre the mega fauna extinction (1) event at some point. I cant recall the current accepted date for their disappearance right now though. Don't get me started on the whole Atlantis thing. OK, maybe I will. Plato imo used the tale as a morality play to display the effects of societal hubris. The whole supposed date coincidence with the YD is nothing more than accidental. That does not mean I do not think that civilization (2) does not go back that far in some form. 1) As to what caused the mega fauna extinction at the YD I think it's a combination of things. A sudden shift in climate, the truely massive floods that happened when melt water was released, and human predation on the serving prey species. As to whether or not an impact event happened I think I will let the experts hammer that out. 2) First we have to define just what "civilization" is. If nothing else Golbeki Tepe and other sites show something was going on. The stone circles that Bob Ballard found in Anzac Cove off of Galipoli clearly show that there sites now underwater that have the potential to have a major effect on our view of pre-history.
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  48.  @TieYourLaurenDown  I dont think they were either. I think Plato was creating a fictional society for his morality play. Does that mean Plato didn't have some knowledge of the disaster that swamped the Minoans? He may well of had some knowledge that a society had existed. After all the oral tales that were turned into The Illiad and The Odessy were certainly around. There were probably others that we don't know about simply because the oral tradition died out and any surviving written copies were lost. I'm highly skeptical of the fringe. Even the ones like Dunn who do raise reasonable questions about how certain artifacts were made tend to go off the deep end. When it comes to artifacts my response is, OK, if the Egyptians* had nothing but copper or copper alloy chisels, saws, sand and dolorite pounders use those tools and reproduce the artifacts in question to the same standard. That in my opinion is not fringe. That falls into the range of experimental archeology. *just the common standard go to for the fringe
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  49. Could sedentary agriculture develop multiple times. Definitely. Seeing as it likely did in the Middle East, Asia, New Guinea, Meso and South America. Now define agricuture.
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  50.  @Great_Olaf5  I never said they were domesticated. The horse evidently went extinct in North America 10k years ago plus or minus. Camels went extinct about 13k years ago.
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