Comments by "Keit Hammleter" (@keithammleter3824) on "Imperial War Museums"
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What was known to both Whittle and his engineering team and the Germans was that axial flow enables as a more efficient engine, and it has less front area, so less aircraft drag. That's why the Germans persisted with it, but to get the advantages in practice requires a greater mastery of materials and a greater mastery of compressor blade design. The Germans never really mastered axial flow engine design before the war ended - their engines were not as efficient as they could have been, and their service life was very short. The Russians tried to get it right, starting with captured German engines and engineers, but it was taking too long, so they famously contracted with Rolls Royce to build centrifugal flow Nenes in Russia under license.
Meanwhile in war-time Britain, Whittle was able to take advantage of Rolls Royce expertise in piston engine turbochargers, in which compressor design factors are exactly the same as in centrifugal jet engine compressor stages. So, lower stresses on parts plus existing British expertise led to the use of centrifugal flow until post war when Rolls Royce was able to use American axial flow know-how.
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@wcg19891 : The thread was about V2 rockets - that's what the original poster asked about, not NASA space missions.
However, it is not true that you can only launch west - that's ridiculous. Sub-orbital rockets can go in any direction, for the same reason any mode of transport can go in any direction - it already has rotational inertial before launch. Further, it is not impossible to reach orbital velocity going west (or north or south), just harder, needing more missile complexity and fuel.
When Australia at out Woomera station was testing British military missiles, ICBM's, and launching satelites (eg WreSat), they were sent north-westward - for the same reason NASA launches east - to avoid flying over populated areas.
Here in Australia, our government is buying ICBM defence systems because North Korea is thought to have developed ICBM's just capable of reaching Australia - these would fly due south - because Australia is south of North Korea.
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@Hattonbank : I gave the facts. Look it up, under the Russian designation RD-45. The British prime minister Atlee approved the sale, upon recommendation by Minister for Trade Stafford Cripps. The contract, negotiated by Soviet engine leader Vladimir Klimov with Rolls Royce, was a technology transfer contract, sample engines plus all technical drawings and parts specifications. You haven't realised that such drawings and specifications have in themselves considerable value and were part of the price the USSR agreed to. The contract also required the USSR to pay a royalty fee on each engine they made. All up it meant Rolls Royce stood to gain a LOT of money.
It happened that the Russians had some initial trouble making some parts - it took them a while to master certain metallurgical specifications, and ended up buying a total of 40 Nenes in order to meet their aircraft deadlines.
It was subsequently discovered that the Russians ended up making perfomance improvements to the Nene/RD-45 and claimed this was a new model (VK-1 and VK-1F with afterburner) and thus no royalty need be paid. Worse (in a commercial sense), they did a similar technology transfer of the Nene design to China, who also put it into volume production, paying royalties to the USSR. All up, Rolls Royce estimated they were cheated out of 207 million pounds and tried to sue for it. They never got the money, only the amount specified in the contract for the sample Nenes, the drawings and specifications, and the royalties on the production of the initial RD-45's.
It was the higher thrust VK-1's that ended up in volume production for fighters, not the Nene copies.
You also need to realise that, at the time at any rate, the British Government didn't think it was selling jewels at all, and that judgment is probably valid. The Nene was at that time obsolete, offering a not very good performance with excessive fuel consumption. The Soviets were working on their own jet engine design after acquiring WW2 German knowhow, but were having trouble with it. It was cheaper to buy British knowhow, and they held Rolls Royce in high regard.
As far as Rolls Royce was concerned, it was money for jam - a large bag of money for an engine they were otherwise unlikely to sell much of.
If the British Government had blocked the sale, the Russians would have pushed ahead with their own design anyway, solved the problems, and ended up with a better engine. Don't forget, too, the the USSR had in operation a vast covert operation to pinch as much American aerospace drawings and specs as they could. Without the Nenes, they might have leapfrogged ahead with stolen American designs.
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