Comments by "TeaParty1776" (@TeaParty1776) on "Liberty Vault"
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@peterlombard2292 There is no evidence for good beyond individual ,conditionally alive organisms. Plants move toward the sun because it furthers survival. Matter exists regardless of changes,eg, water to ice. Nothing is good or bad for matter. For what is the water to ice change good or bad? Is water "better" or "worse" when it changes to ice? And,since their is no supernatural, there is no rational justification for discussing alleged supernatural good or bad. Only living organisms face the constant possibility of existence or non-existence. Thus, for man and his free will mind, the need for morality. Nobody needs to sacrifice themselves. But man needs food, rational knowledge, individual rights, self-esteem, etc remain alive. All this is based on common human experience, not science.
>Anything said without qualification means squat because it can just as easily be dismissed without qualification.
In the unfocused mind anything can be claimed or denied. But the focused mind knows some absolutes, eg, existence
identity, causality. The mind needs some real absolutes to exist and function. Or the mind disintegrates and man cant survive.
> DNA and things like blind chance allow many living organisms to remain alive, irrespective of any value assigned to them.
Value is action to get or keep something, a fact of reality, not "assigned." Eg, living orgaanisms must get or keep food to remain alive. DNA, chance,etc are mere conditions in which life exists. To live is to value. Thus the "moralities" which obligate the sacrifice of values cause suffering and death. Morality is for life only.
> Do tomato plants value their own existence?
They grow and absorb nutrients and sunlight, ie, they value. Value is action to get or keep something,not always conscious action. A tomato is alive. Man is alive. To remain alive, they must act, ie, value.
> Society is not real.”
-Really? History would suggest otherwise.
Only individuals are real, ie, an individual man or tomato. Society is a perspective upon real individuals when man wants to think about many men together. This saves time and mental space and allows man to mentally consider real things not presently perceived. This allows man to know relationsships among real things, increasinfg survival. Animals know only the immediate, concrete situation. Man can consciously recall the past and plan the future. We can buy car insurance, plant seeds, buy a winter coat before the price rises in winter. Chamberlain, in 1938 Munich, evaded knowing the past and future of militant, aggressive dictators. He knew only "peace in our time."
Farmers know that plants need water. They dont need to consider each individual plant. Each individual plant is real. The category, plant, is not real. Its a method of identifying and mentally integrating perceived, real similarities and differences. All plants have a basic similarity that is basically different from rocks, eg, the need for water. And so, society is not real. Only individual men and their lives are real and can be destroyed by
"the common good." "The common good" means concretely that real individuals are sacrificed, destroyed, imprisoned, murdered. There is no real common good that is benefited or harmed. What could that possibly mean? Individuals bleed. The common good does not bleed. When Marxists and Nazis murdered many millions , what real common good was benefited? "The common good" is a thug with a gun in the face of real individuals.
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