Comments by "P GUD" (@p.g.u.d) on "Spanish police battle mass protest as Catalan separatist leader is detained" video.

  1. Adisbir by enabling a vote? International law says any people are entitled to seek independence.
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  2. Adisbir except i know history. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-determination https://culs.org.uk/per-incuriam/legal-updates/catalan-independence-international-law-perspective/ The very fact that Spain can dismiss an elected government in catalonia tells you everything you need to know about whether catalonia is under duress. Add to that Spanish authorities using undue force on people peacefully expressing an opinion. I think you know where I'm going. Spain can continue on its path and make bitter enemies out of catalonia. ...
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  3. Adisbir and by the way. The UK has given an independence referendum to Scotland and eventually will to Ireland and even Wales. We wouldn't dispute a vote for independence and we CERTAINLY wouldn't use police force on voters.
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  4. Adisbir ok. Southern Sudan.
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  5. Adisbir actually the wiki entry has a number of modern examples you can soak in. Do you accept that national self determination is international law?
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  6. Adisbir and ps. Catalonia has NOT always been a part of Spain, that is a LIE. whether or not it is a part of Spain is irrelevant. The international law is precisely for the ability of regions to seek national self determination. You can try all the tricks you want.
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  7. Adisbir as far as california.. They of course have the right to national self determination and there has even been recent talk of states breaking away from the USA. You are making my point for me.
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  8. Adisbir http://www.toptenstip.com/top-10-oldest-countries-in-the-world/ Can i urge you to check your facts before you post stuff?
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  9. Adisbir do you accept that international law garauntees the right to national self determination? Right now I'd like to be Puigdemont's attorney. Because i would take both Spain and the eu to court for breaking international law and interfering with a people seeking self determination. And i would win VERY QUICKLY because any judge would recognise that UN law has been broken. And Spain IS a UN member https://www.bing.com/search?q=UN+members&qs=n&form=QBLH&sp=-1&pq=un+members&sc=5-10&sk=&cvid=C49AEB0559774639B90F7139F70A11C9
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  10. Adisbir Southern Sudan is one of MANY examples. I don't seek or need to make ANY comparison because the UN CHARTER which is international LAW makes NO COMPARISON. IT SIMPLY states that people have the right to CHOOSE THEIR OWN SOVEREIGNTY without interference. Do you accept that . Spain is a UN member? . UN charter, which is binding, upholds the right to national self determination? Do you accept those two facts?
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  11. Adisbir LOL You're an idiot.
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  12. Adisbir Incidentally Puigdemont's case is going before the UN https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/02/puigdemonts-case-presented-un-arguing-spain-has-violated-rights/
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  13. Tom M both eu and Spain are UN members and the UN charter garauntees the right to national self determination. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-determination The EU and Spain are breaking international law.
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  14. Nadqa I'm sorry. You are wrong. The very fact that Spain can dismiss an elected government in catalonia proves you wrong. The UN charter is astonishingly clear. International Bill of Human Rights Self-determination is recognized as a right of all peoples in the United Nations Charter, Universal Declaration of Human Rights, International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, known collectively as the International Bill of Human Rights. And yes, gaining independence and self determination would amount to succession, would it not? http://c100tibet.org/Self-Determination_UN.html
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  15. Nadqa "Just succession" LOL Yes. That would be national self determination which the UN charter enshrines as a right. I like how you try to redefine what catalonia is trying to do in order to pull a FAST ONE. But it didn't work. 😏
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  16. Nadqa how would you know? They aren't allowed to vote without being beaten up.
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  17. Nadqa it's beside the point. I made the simple point that Spain can dismiss a duly elected president of the catalon quorum. That tells you everything you need to know about their self determination. It wouldn't matter if they had a million elections. Spain can overturn them.
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  18. Nadqa well we don't know do we? Because they get beaten up by Spanish authorities if they try to express a view. I dare say the fact that they vote for a separatist party speaks volumes. They don't get beaten up for doing that, just shut down.
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  19. Adisbir do you agree that international law supports the right to national self determination?
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  20. Adisbir you can't accept the truth. You will argue that black is actually white. The law does not make the distinctions you are making. It simply upholds the right to national self determination. Interestingly, YOU are the one who accused Puigdemont of being a nationalist so therefore you have recognised his RIGHT under international law to seek self determination.
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  21. Adisbir "The right of people to self-determination is a cardinal principle in modern international law(commonly regarded as a jus cogens rule), binding, as such, on the United Nations as authoritative interpretation of the Charter's norms.[1][2] It states that a people, based on respect for the principle of equal rights and fair equality of opportunity, have the right to freely choose their sovereignty and international political status with no interference.[3]" It's . Binding for all UN members . Makes absolutely NO distinction between Africa, USA and Spain or catalonia. It's the law. It's international law. Did you see that part that said no interference there at the end?
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  22. Adisbir sorry. Turkey has an ancient history. Way earlier than Spain. You don't get your facts right. Turkey boundaries mesopotamia and has records on clay tablets which WAY predate Spain.
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  23. Adisbir Southern Sudan is one of MANY examples. I don't seek or need to make ANY comparison because the UN CHARTER which is international LAW makes NO COMPARISON. IT SIMPLY states that people have the right to CHOOSE THEIR OWN SOVEREIGNTY without interference. Do you accept that . Spain is a UN member? . UN charter, which is binding, upholds the right to national self determination? Do you accept those two facts?
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