Comments by "oneoflokis" (@oneoflokis) on "Rethinking Thinking: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?" video.
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In the 1990s there were several documentaries on UK TV that could hardly believe (or at least they had skeptoids on there who didn't) that birds such as ravens could use tools (there's one species called the Caledonian raven I think? Which does so regularly.) Or that common British captive ravens in a zoo-type environment could use "reasoning"-type thinking (instead of trial and error, basically, which was thought to be all that animals used) to work out, that if a bit of meat (In a plastic tube) was tied to a string and its other end to a perch, then what the raven had to do was to pull up a bit of string with its beak, then stand on it with its foot, then repeat the process several times, until finally it had gathered up a hank of string under one foot, and had the meat in its beak! 🙂
The ravens generally worked it out very quickly, with few false starts, I recall.
However they had at least one animal biologist on (hardly a greybeard) who made such a stupid aghast face, as soon as the research's conclusions were presented to him ; as if the experimenters were breaking some sacred taboo, or something... 🙄😏
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