Comments by "Peter" (@peter65zzfdfh) on "Further Thoughts on Hezbollah Pagers" video.

A battery exploding like this is a freaking unicorn. No credible person with a basic understanding of chemistry would suggest otherwise. Ryan is way outside his wheelhouse and doubling down. Makes me distrust everything he says that I know less about. ‘Do not recommend this channel time’.
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@frenchonion4595 demonstrably no intelligence on this issue.
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Thinking it was nickel cadmium batteries was thinking it was unicorns!
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⁠ @ryelor123 it’s extremely unlikely they ever went through any screening anyway. These things only worked in Lebanon, there’s no reason to take them on a plane. If Israel can take out someone in Iran smuggling pagers into Lebanon is a piece of cake.
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The crazy bit is pretending a unicorn is a horse and the horse is a zebra.
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@MattAtHazmat pagers don’t use lithium ion batteries they use Nickel Cadmium batteries. Tiny tiny capacity batteries, if they released all the energy at once you probably wouldn’t notice the pagers getting warm.
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@markalbert9011 capacitors don’t have a current problem as much as they have a persistence problem. You can store a lot in a capacitor but the problem is a pager battery doesn’t store any significant amount of charge, they are too small and the wrong chemistry. A capacitor still has to get the charge from somewhere and it has to use it relatively quickly, so unless it’s plugged in until seconds before the energy has to come from the tiny battery anyway.
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And who takes a pager that only works in Lebanon and nearby through western security, a pager that identifies you as suspicious just through owning one much less what is in it. Not to mention you can find video online people forgetting fireworks in their bag and making it through security. It’s not as secure as people think. People aren’t wealthy enough to just jaunt around on international flights outside the top 10% of the world population either.
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@paperburn pagers have rechargeable NiCad batteries in them, not Lithium Ion. It’s the lithium ion batteries that burn.
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@zx9124 customs even in well funded western countries only spot checks a tiny fraction of imports much less exports, and they focus on high risk imports with dodgy paperwork. Israel has shown they can forge passports of other countries, making a shipment look non threatening is a piece of cake. Hell you can search online and see videos of people that accidentally took fireworks through airport security which is way tighter than cargo exports. And once in the country no one if any predominantly poorer people on watch list ever do travel, is taking a pager locked to a Lebanese network abroad to a country where just having a pager is suspicious and useless.
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@apex107lrp the battery in a pager is 0.71 Wh. If it releases all that energy at once you probably won’t feel the pager even getting warm. They don’t even use lithium ion batteries, imaging exploding batteries defying the laws of physics isn’t a horse it’s a unicorn.
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@rotwang2000 and pagers all use the older Nickel Cadmium batteries because they don’t need the density of Lithium Ion like EVs do. The tiny tiny capacity batteries make it last a month between charges. It’s also so unreliable, who makes a device like this that would only work if fully charged with several hundred times more energy than a pager needs when they could just use explosives and rely on the fact that they don’t work intentionally, most of the people with them are too poor/on too many watch lists to fly international to a country where their suspicious pager wouldn’t work anyway.
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@no1DdC pagers use very low energy density Nickel Cadmium batteries, if you replaced one battery with lithium ion you could more than easily offset the loss in capacity from the other. Also even with the low capacity batteries the battery life is a month. There’s a decent chance people who haven’t used them before will not notice they’re only getting 15 days.
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What? Poorer people on watch lists don’t take their pagers that only work on the Lebanese network on international air travel holidays with them like a giant ‘I’m suspicious’ sign?
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@Randy778 the battery in a pager only contains 0.7 Wh of power, if you discharged it instantly you might notice the pager is warm. They are very very low power devices, a tiny fraction of a cell phone. A battery is also unreliable, the battery lasts 30 days, what if it was triggered on day 15? Day 30? If they relied on the battery to do anything but trigger something else extremely explosive most probably wouldn’t have gone off.
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@MattAtHazmat pagers don’t even use lithium ion, they’re so low energy usage they use nickel cadmium batteries that last a whole month. A much bigger and more energetic smart phone battery still couldn’t do this. Serious burns sure, but this, no.
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