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  570. Lol there you go playing pretend scientist again. Honestly, I will say this for a third time now, unless you are an expert your opinion on the collapses doesn't mean jack-shit. I don't care what you think you know, it is irrelevant. Haha so if you can't answer a simple question it means I haven't done enough research. And I take it you have now watched Richard Gage's cardboard box demonstration? What is your opinion of it? You do know he has never even designed a high-rise structure right? He isn't even fit to be in the conversation of experts on 9/11 let alone give a fucking lecture on it. He's a fraud who collects donations from gullible truthers. Zero experts in 2017 who will tell you it collapsed from fire? LMFAO now you really are just talking shit. I love how you completely ignore the fact a fucking plane flew into it at over 500mph and instead say it's only fires too. You are just repeating lies you have heard like the old chestnut that no other buildings in history have collapsed from fires. The FDNY had been saying for hours that building 7 was coming down, or are the heroes of the day, who lost so many of their own somehow complicit in this conspiracy too? You saying that there are steel beams cut by thermite and pools of molten STEEL doesn't make it so, it's just something you read on a conspiracy website that fits your narrative, it's never been proven it's just an often repeated lie. What are the buildings that survived being nuked you are talking about? It's not very strange if they were a distance from the blast you know? What buildings are you talking about so I can look them up. If you have it all figured out then please, by all means release a report for peer review, or as I said a video animation of how they believe it happened. that is honestly all it would take for the truth movement to be taken seriously. But they never will, we both know that. P.S learn the difference between a static load and a dynamic load, it will tear your theories about the nuts, bolts, and rivets and steel etc to shreds.
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  906. So the plane did nothing to weaken the structure? Got it, you're an idiot. You 2 are both idiots who refuse to answer even the most basic of questions and then act as if you have somehow bettered me.Fifty Shady Greys You also act as though you are an authority on the science of the collapse when clearly you aren't. And yes high-rise steel structured buildings HAVE fallen due to fires alone. The Plasco building in Tehran springs to mind, there are others too, did you not fact-check this? Stop spreading lies (even though it is the MO of the truther). Not only this, you seem to think that the FDNY and chief Nigro are somehow part of this conspiracy when really they are the heroes of the day. The firefighters had been saying for hours that building 7 was coming down. Are the firefighters and chief Nigro in on this conspiracy too? What do you think of your hero Richard Gage's cardboard box demonstration? If the fires weren't hot enough to destroy the 1400 cars, some of them blocks away, then what destroyed them? What are the names of the buildings in Hiroshima and Nagasaki you are concerned about? I have looked at images of the blast zones and everything looks completely levelled bar a few smaller buildings and houses which are severely damaged. No highrise structures appear to be remaining. Why doesn't the truth movement release their version of the official report for peer review? Or a computer animated model of how they believe the collapses occured? I've made these questions very clear several times, but you both keep dodging them. If either of you can't answer them this time I'm going to take it as an admission that you are embarrassed by your own stupidity. No more long comments about how you are an authority on the science of the collapse(which you aren't), just answer the questions.
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  909. Thanks for the 100 page assignment but it still doesn't change the fact you obviously aren't an expert on the collapses. I may appear to ignore some questions but that's just because as I said to you initially I'm not an expert on the science of the collapse and don't pretend to be. If you want to play pretends then go for it, but I won't be having a bar of it or believing a damn thing you say just because you say it. Can you get that through your head yet? You are someone who pretends to be, not me. Quite a few glaring inconsistencies in your claims. If you take Richard Gage and his cardboard box demonstration seriously then that's all I need to know you don't have a clue to even the most basics of physics, even less than myself. I actually feel a tad sorry for you for sitting through his talks, soaking in all his bullshit like a sponge. I suppose if I threw a matchbox car off a cliff it would be a crumpled wreck at the bottom? "Twenty-seven hundred people were murdered in what we can now safely call demolitions," -Richard Gage "Architects and Engineers are trained to design buildings that function well and withstand potentially destructive forces. However, the 3 high-rise buildings at the World Trade Center which ‘collapsed’ on 9/11 (the Twin Towers plus WTC Building #7) presented us with a body of evidence (i.e.controlled demolition) that was clearly outside the scope of our training and experience."-Richard Gage Richard Gage himself admits, that controlled demolition is clearly outside the scope of his expertise. Yet, all his evidence consists of arguments trying to prove the demolition of the 3 towers. His conferences are getting bigger you say? "Despite Gage's Washington event being held at the AIA's headquarters according to Stahl “aside from Gage, though, there was not a single other architect in the room, much less an official from AIA, or even another member. The 80-strong crowd was made up largely of members of the local 9/11 Truth movement and other political activists.” [14] Despite making about 20 posts none of the truthers who commented on the article disputed this [15]. About 5.6 million people live in the D.C. Metro Area [16] so it is quite remarkable that only 80 (0.0014%) who were mostly members of the choir and no architects showed up. Think of how remarkable that is, Gage keeps pimping how many architects and engineers supposedly back his theories but he held an event at the HQ of the nation's leading architectural association and no architects showed up." But I reccommend you read the whole thing, might be quite an eye opener for you http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/19339-the-aia-disowns-richard-gage-aia-and-few-architect-want-to-have-anything-to-do-with-him/ Yes firefighters and chief Nigro had been saying for hours that building 7 would be coming down and yes it had a humungous gash in it, as well as the added stresses of the rubble from 1 &2. Are you saying that chief Nigro and the FDNY are in on this conspiracy too? Why else would they say it was going to collapse? Get it now? Have you looked up the Plasco building in Tehran? A steel framed building that collapsed due to fire alone? So cars that were blocks away were burned up by thermate, which has never even been proven or independantly verified? We just have to take the words of the idiots that claim they found it? Thermate that was used to cut steel beams somehow ended up destroying cars that were blocks away.....riiiiight. Only took over half a dozen times me asking that for you idiots to come up with something completely ridiculous, should have known. And if a first responder hears something goes "boom" then it must be a bomb? There's no possible way that the impacts could have caused secondary explosions? And why are they hearing explosions if the silent thermate was being used? Oh so you don't actually know the high-rise buildings that survived the nuclear bombs, I just have to take your word for it. LOL See how stupid you sound?
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  913. OH MY GOD YOU TYPED THAT ALL IN CAPS!!! I GUESS THAT MUST MEAN YOU ARE CORRECT. THE PLASCO BUILDING IS ANOTHER CONTROLLED DEMOLITION BECAUSE SOME AIR WAS PUSHED OUT WINDOWS AND THEY BROKE WHILE IT WAS FALLING AND YOUR HERO RICHARD GAGE WHO KNOWS NOT A DAMN THING ABOUT HIGH-RISE STRUCTURES OR CONTROLLED DEMOLITIONS BY HIS OWN ADMISSIONS SAYS IT IS. I GUESS EVERY SINGLE HIGH RISE STEEL BUILDING THAT FALLS DUE TO FIRE FROM NOW ON IS A CD BECAUSE YOU TYPED ALL THAT IN CAPS. BAHAHAHAHAHA YOU REALLY ARE A DUMBASS!!! WHY WOULD THE WTC HAVE "SQUIBS" IF THE SILENT THERMITE/THERMATE(?) WAS BEING USED? Honestly you're just a dumbass that comes up with ridiculous answers to anything you can't comprehend that doesn't fall into what your confirmation bias tells you happened. Every single one of your claims has more holes in it than swiss cheese and when pressed on it you either ignore it or make up some otherr ridiculous claim. And you're right, I do "childishly" think that cardboard is different to steel....Funny that LMFAO. I feel really sorry for you that you take that con-man seriously. Love how you ignore the question about whether chief Nigro and the FDNY are in on this or not... Yes or no? If they aren't then why were they saying for hours that building 7 would be collapsing? You don't actually have any answers that make anything that even remotely resembles sense. Just a bunch of disproven bullshit and hearsay. Pathetic. And joedsavage....You are quite possibly the dumbest truther in existence. You actually pose questions and post videos that automatically debunk your own theories. It's fucking hilarious. Please don't ever change lol.
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  914. Yes I think it's best we wrap this up today, you're posts are always very long and tedious and full of shit, you would probably make a decent politician. So I'll try to make this short and sweet. These are very simple questions you keep ignoring. Why did the firefighters and chief Nigro say all day that building 7 would be coming down if they aren't in on it? No a small gouge didn't bring 7 down, that gouge, the added stresses of 1 and 2's rubble on the building, and the fact it burned for 7 hours. Why are firefighters hearing explosions if the silent thermate is being used?Yes your Monika Lewinsky point is ridiculous. You are still acting as though the US govt. are the only people who investigated 9/11, which is a lie. The towering infernos you mentioned?Like the Greenfell tower in London? A concrete block framed building- yeah real relevant pal, try again. So show me any other CD that starts at the top if you googled how they work. Just show me one single CD that starts at the top, in this case amazingly at the point of the planes' impact(why didn't the thermate ignite as soon as the plane impacted btw?). Wow. You really do think his cardboard box demonstration is reliable, that's how I know you don't actually know much about physics so either post your degree or accept that you are playing pretend. It is ridiculously funny because not only is he comparing a cardboard box to the materials of the wtc, but it is only a scale model. Get it? If I took a children's hotwheels car that is to scale of a real car and threw it off a cliff would it be a smashed, crumpled wreck at the bottom? No it wouldn't. The sheer weight of the real car is what destroys it and is what destroyed the WTC. And I am the science denier.Fmd. But don't worry, I'll always remember you for other gems such as "fire isn't hot enough to destroy a car" it must have been hundreds and hundreds of tonnes of unignited thermate that nobody can even prove was there that flew for several blocks bahahaha. Tell you what, I've got an experiment for you- Go set your car on fire and see if it is destroyed or not. joedsavage You don't even have an answer for your own question, so I'll give you one final chance, otherwise forever accept the fact that you are embarrassed by your own stupidity. If fire didn't destroy those cars then what did?
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  1097. @Timothy 2:2:3You rest your case?LMAO well you would lose if this was a courtroom. You think the thermite is what pulverised them into nothing? And not the 110 storey skyscraper collapsing? How much of this stuff do you think there was lol? Do you have any idea how long and how much work would go into rigging a building that size for demolition? The B-52 that hit the empire state building was travelling much, much slower and didn't have a full tank of fuel. The incidents are nothing alike. The hijackers all had their pilot's license, and those "cave dwellers" were college educated in Germany and got their pilot's license in the USA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhDNy5LAo5o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6g2egWQ7pU It's true he had some problems landing a cessna he had never flown before but he had no intention of landing the plane anyway, it's quite easy to just steer a plane. What do you mean the sky patrols were doing exercises? Do you think all of them were or something? If so I would like to see some proof. And even if some of them were why is it so unusual? I'm sure the airforce regularly conducts exercises. There is a shot of a plane hitting the pentagon, sure it's grainy but cameras,especially surveilance cameras weren't as good back then. Do you expect the Pentagon to have cameras just randomly pointing off into the sky or something? The fire burned for so long because there was alot of material, have never heard of the basement turning to molten rock, but molten materials are a side effect of fires, I'm surprised you can't figure this all out by yourself tbh. Most of the points you bring up are easily found if you were to do your research.
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