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There are three types of beauty among Filipinos: Mestiza, Morena, and Chinita. You can actually hear them discussing it in the video.
Mestiza: Fair-skinned Spanish (or half-White) looks
Morena: Dark-skinned native islander (or South Asian/half-Black) looks
Chinita: (previously also called "Mestiza de Sangley"): Fair-skinned East Asian (Chinese, Japanese, Korean) looks
Admittedly, they're not equally preferred. Mestiza is still by and large, the preferred look, due to the influence of Hollywood media. While Morena and Chinita are about even, but aren't that far down either. There are also stereotypes about them. Chinitas are seen as more submissive and delicate, Morenas are seen as more passionate and cheerful, while Mestizas are seen as more confident and sophisticated.
Also, the same standards are applied to men: Mestizo, Moreno, and Chinito, except there are slight differences in preferences. For example, Chinitos are seen as more intellectual or richer, while Morenos are seen as more masculine and stronger. Mestizos are more or less in between those stereotypes.
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So much racism and misconceptions in the comments, I doubt many of them even watched the video. A lot of it borne from their own cultural lenses that view women as just wives.
First off, the Philippines is THE most gender equal country in Asia. Higher than developed Asian countries like South Korea or Japan, higher even than first world western countries like the US. We have the highest number of women in senior management positions, top 10 in terms of the highest number of female CEOs, and we've had two female presidents. The simple fact that women here are treated far more equally is the exact reason why they can choose to marry a foreigner with no social repercussions.
Filipinas marry foreigners because they CAN. Whereas in your countries, doing so would be viewed with derision or shame. It's a reflection of your own cultural biases that you laugh at us.
1. Filipina women genuinely find most foreigners attractive. The same reason that someone might find a Filipina beautiful, is the same reason Filipinas might find foreign men attractive. The same is true for Filipino men and foreign women, as well as for Filipino LGBT people and foreign LGBT people. Our beauty standards tend to go for the different, rather than the similar. We universally find mixed people beautiful, it's why a large number of our celebrities are mixed, far more than most other countries. See 11:16
2. Financial security. It's funny how people find this weird, when the vast majority of people also marry for this reason. The Philippines is a developing country. If a man can provide a better life, he'll always have an advantage over someone who can't. Practicality. It's PART of the reason, but not THE reason. See 10:14
3. The trade-off is the cultural differences. As I've already mentioned, Filipina women are used to being equal. We are family-oriented which a lot of foreigners mistake as being submissive. We're not. And a huge fear into entering mixed marriages is that they might end up being mistreated. See 7:17 and 8:05
There are exceptions of course. And they're obvious. Mostly when the age and attractiveness gap is wide. But that happens in any country.
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YangSunWoo I'm guessing you're unaware that owning a certain amount of drugs is an automatic death penalty in China, Taiwan, Vietnam, Laos, Malaysia, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, and North Korea. No excuses, no bargaining. If you're caught with a certain amount of drugs, you're put to death. Doesn't matter if you're a dealer or an addict.
So tell me, why weren't you screaming about morality and ethics decades ago?
The Philippines is actually the exception, since it does not have a death penalty law. Despite what you hear in sensationalized news in international sources, drug addicts ARE put into rehab in the Philippines when caught, not executed. In the early parts of Duterte's presidency, 1.3 million addicts voluntarily put themselves up for rehab. Those 1.3 million are still alive. There is no standing order to kill drug addicts, although there is an unspoken resolve to shoot dealers if they fight back. And no one is really complaining about that.
The vast majority of deaths in the drug war you hear about are extrajudicial killings, not cop killings. Assassinations by unknown suspects. Which means you can't exactly blame the government for them. Most of these deaths are of drug addicts and small-time dealers, which make it very likely that these were done by the drug organizations to silence potential witnesses, NOT by cops. Because it simply makes no sense why cops would kill potential informants, like what the international journalists and opposition leaders are claiming.
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Isn't it widespread AND traditional throughout Asia and South America? It's partly to care for parents, partly to reduce unnecessary spending in anticipation of getting married. In the Philippines, everyone I know lived with their parents when they were single (if they worked nearby). Because living on your own doubles the cost of living. Triple, even, since you also have to send a portion of your income to help your elderly parents for groceries and stuff.
They only moved out once they got married (usually late 20s to early 30s). And in most cases, they still lived very close to their parents (usually the women's parents). In more than a few cases, they just build another house within the family land, basically turning it into a compound.
Though most kids do have a period of independence during college. Because they usually went and lived in a city temporarily for school. But almost everyone comes back to the family house. Unless they got married early, or they got a job soon after graduating in the cities.
Still, a lot of them end up moving back to their hometowns when they reach their 40s or 50s, for the simple reason that their parents are becoming too old to live on their own. And it allows them to spend time with their grandkids, and vice versa, before it's too late. Most also want their kids to grow up in the same environment that they did. Since cities are not exactly ideal for raising kids.
I personally prefer the living with the parents arrangement. It allows you to spend far more time with them as they grow older. I shudder to think of the nursing home culture in the west. Seeing your kids like twice a year, if you're lucky, and then you die.
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Cops kill drug suspects during gunfight.
International Media: Duterte is so evil, the Philippines is a warzone! OMG!
Meanwhile Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, HK, Singapore, China, Taiwan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Pakistan executes drug suspects
International Media: Top 10 tourists destinations!
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@Fathi Rizqi Ananda In the Philippines, it's cringier to talk purely in any one language. Speak pure English or a foreign language and you're seen as pretentious or a wannabe. Speak pure "deep" Tagalog or any of the local languages and you're seen as an ultranationalist and also a wannabe.
The Philippines is naturally multilingual anyway. With around 130 ethnic groups, we all speak different native languages. Add to that the fact that those native languages already have numerous Spanish words as well due to the 300 years of Spanish influence.
So we're used to switching between two or more different languages depending on who we're talking to. Pretending like we only speak one language at a time is nonsensical when everyone knows and understands English anyway.
We mix languages not so we sound "cooler", but because it's easier for both the speaker and the listener. After all, even in Bahasa, you use English words when there are no native equivalents. For example, tell me, what's the Indonesian word for "internet"? What about "computer"? It's the same concept. But we use entire phrases or sentences. Not just individual words.
Lastly, Bahasa isn't pure. How many of your words are from Arabic? Dutch? Chinese? Sanskrit? Those are foreign languages, are they not? Even your first names are Arabic. Not exactly native, is it?
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@Joe A. 😂 We never confuse "w" with "v", ever. What we do confuse are "b" and "v", "p" and "f", and "th" and "d" or "t" in heavy Filipino accents. Because Tagalog does not have native f, v, and th sounds; whereas Indian languages have all those sounds and more. You can hear an example in the video when the guy says "PIFA" instead of "FIFA", or when they say "da" for "the".
Neither do we say "pu-cent-uh". We say "peR-sent" (with a very clear rolled R). The difference between those is massive. And the reason is simple: because Indian English is based off BRITISH English, hence the Rs tend to disappear at the end of syllables (similar to Singaporean, Malaysian, and Hong Kong English). Meanwhile Philippine English is based off AMERICAN English, with a strong dose of Spanish pronunciation. Hence the Rs persist.
Nor do we have a singsong cadence as in Indian, because our native Austronesian languages are not singsong (except perhaps Hiligaynon, though the cadence to that is more akin to Japanese). The stresses on words in Filipino are almost always on the second syllable of the word. Similar to Spanish (and in contrast to English, where it is usually on the first or third syllable).
Nor do we have the closed vowels that Indians have (where it sounds like they speak through their teeth). Instead Filipino languages have very open vowels spoken with open mouths, again similar to Spanish. Or more accurately, to other Austronesian languages like Hawaiian, Malay, or Chamorro.
I repeat, they sound nothing alike. You can find plenty of people speaking straight English with a true Filipino accent on Youtube. Try Mikey Bustos for example.
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@player1enjoyer I'm not comparing it to western countries. I'm saying the way western countries perceive our circumstances is blatantly false.
They could report accurately on problems like the drug war, or the insurgencies in Bangsamoro, or the poverty problem in NCR slums, or the Delta variant surge in the last few months.
But they don't. They never have.
Within the last few decades, the image international media paints of the Philippines focused solely on the ARMM insurgencies and the Manila slums (specifically Tondo. ALWAYS Tondo).
That has resulted in this weird image of the Philippines in other countries as this war-torn country filled with poor people eating pagpag. I'm sure YOU have experienced that as well.
Then Duterte arrived. And our international image shifted to being apparently a totalitarian regime with rivers of blood running down the streets, where everyone is apparently a misogynist or some other nonsense. I've actually had a couple foreign friends ask me if we were "safe." Because they thought the Philippines had turned into another North Korea.
Can't you see how crazy that is?
And then these past two years. Global Finance labeled us the "Most Dangerous Country in the World". Again bear in mind that other countries included in their list are in the middle of a civil war (including cartel drug wars far worse than the Philippines) or have homicide rates literally six times higher than the Philippines.
Then Bloomberg piled on and labeled us the "Most Dangerous Country to be in during the Pandemic." Which again is hilarious, given that our covid death rate is dwarfed by the hundreds of thousands of deaths in pretty much most major western country. And our vaccination rate is on par with other middle income countries (like other ASEAN nations) who had problems securing adequate vaccine supplies.
And you call that "Reality"? I'm not saying we're the safest country in the world or that our covid problems are minor. But we are NOT and never have been the "worst".
Yet time and time again, they keep saying that about us. And it infuriates me.
To use your own analogy: international media SAYS our house is burning down and everyone inside are screaming and burning alive.
Meanwhile I'm IN the house, reading a book. A small house, sure. Not very well-made with a lot of problems. But as far as I can tell, I'm not on fire.
It's called SENSATIONALISM. And I for one, am tired as f*** of hearing it.
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@L L So let me get this straight, you actually want most of our languages to die, but you criticize us for the "erosion" of our languages to English? 🤣 I have no idea what country you are from, but you do realize that every single language represents a distinct ethnic identity, right?
EACH language represents a people. A people with a history and culture different from everyone else. Very deep divides that go back centuries if not millennia in some cases. A Tausug speaker isn't differentiated from a Tagalog speaker or a Waray speaker or an Ivatan speaker by language alone, but by their very ethnicity. They have different traditions, different histories, different art, different architecture, different songs, different dances, different ancestral technologies, different cuisines, even different religions. And you want to throw all that away just for the convenience of "cohesion".
Losing a language is losing a culture. You'd get pretty much the same results as if you'd just murdered everyone belonging to a particular tribe. Which is exactly how most monolingual countries came to be. Not through assimilation, but by genocide.
And that is not something to be proud of. No thanks.
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So you think that because you have nice streets and big buildings, we wouldn't hate you anymore? LOL. Typical Chinese arrogance. Thinking that being rich and powerful excuses all the things you do. How nice China is to live in is completely irrelevant.
We hate you for your greed, for your rudeness, for your casual cruelty, for how you lie and cheat, for all the fake and dangerous products you sell us, for the lands you have invaded long after the colonial period, for the constant threats of war, for the constant brainwashing you do to your citizens, for your support of North Korea, for your occupation of Tibet and Xinjiang, for your illegal fishermen and all the illegal trade in endangered animals and plants for your traditional medicine, for your racism against all other Asian races, and most importantly, for the fact that you are now claiming the entire South China Sea and pushing the world one step closer to World War 3.
And all of that is because you have this completely insane obsession with trying to one-up the US at everything. Even though the Cold War has been over for almost 30 years, and the US doesn't really even care.
Everyone else in Asia gets along fine. Rich and poor countries alike. Even Japan and South Korea, which have historical bad blood don't threaten each other with missiles or warships. You are the exception. No one likes China. No one trusts China. We don't care how many shiny buildings you have. Stop acting like the fat bully in school who thinks bragging about all his toys will make everyone love you, even when you constantly steal everyone else's lunch.
P.S. To preempt your usual answer of "no u, american dog! imperialist aggressor11!!1!", no. I am NOT white.
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Indonesia, despite claiming to be secular, keeps trying to enforce Muslim laws on everyone, as well as sending thousands of Muslim settlers in eastern Indonesia, majority of which are not historically Muslim areas. Then when riots and killings start happening, the police (most of which are also Muslim settlers) side with the Muslim migrants, not the natives.
Remember it was only a decade or so ago when settlers burned churches and Christian villages, and beheaded schoolchildren in central Sulawesi. Same with similar situations in Bali, Maluku, and of course, East Timor.
Papua, which is even less culturally similar to western Indonesians have it the worst. Aside from the racism, there's also the fact that the government ignores them, only noticing them when they're harvesting their rich natural resources. Indonesia treats Papua almost like its uninhabited. As if Papuans are not people. You don't even see or hear anything about Papuans in mainstream Indonesian media.
Papua should be independent. Period.
P.S. Yep. Everyone basically just says they don't want to lose Papua because they don't want to lose natural resources. Nothing about the people. All they care about are the riches of Papua.
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@JoeMcDonald2349 Honor killing exists here too, and no, it's an entirely different phenomenon. Rido has pre-Islamic origins. Neighboring non-Muslim ethnic groups use similar terms (ridu, lido, rido) to describe revenge killings by kinship groups (which usually became full-on intervillage wars). It has virtually disappeared among other groups, but persists in Muslim regions because of weak law enforcement, since these regions are often too dangerous with armed separatist groups and terrorists for police to operate in.
Ridos are thus usually triggered when a perceived crime happens, and there is no legal punishment or the punishment is deemed not enough. The family of the victim take it into their hands to enact "justice". In doing so, they attack someone part of the other family but not directly involved in the original conflict. This starts off the chain, the family of the victim(s) of the revenge attack, conduct their own attack, and so on and so forth. It's particularly brutal because it does not spare women or children. And it deeply affects the lives of everyone involved and everyone around them. Rido has even triggered armed encounters between the military and separatist groups (even though currently, they are diplomatically at peace).
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@51844mj Bullies aren't exactly the most rational people, they may be bullying you for something else other than your race. A more common phenomenon I've seen is when full-blood Filipinos dislike mixed-race or foreign-born Filipinos because they've forgotten the language or know nothing (and have no interest) about their own culture.
However, it's the direct opposite in the Philippines. Being mixed race is almost universally regarded as beautiful, regardless of what the mix is. They're the most likely people to become celebrities, hence the common criticism by other Asian countries and even some Filipinos that the Philippines has too much "colonial mentality".
I personally don't see it that way. Philippine culture is just weirdly xenophilic. While yes, there are traces of the old high regard for Spanish features in the Philippines (since it usually denoted that you were part of the aristocratic principalia class), there's also a strong interest in non-colonial cultures. Including South Korea, Japan, India, Thailand, etc. Even Chinese (specifically Hokkien) culture was popular for a while in the early 2000s, though that has been tempered with distrust because of the recent actions of the PRC.
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"And there are rumors..."
"Reports saying..."
Yeah. Western journalism has really gone down these days. It's not like those incidents are even hidden or written in a foreign language, they are all reported IN ENGLISH. Extensively in the local media. Down to the exact details. And yet when international media talk about the Philippines, they always say everything in vague terms like "Quarantine violators have been shot" without specifying who, where, when, why, and how. Not even how many.
Both people (yes, there are only 2, AFAIK) that have been shot were threatening the police - one tried to attack the police with a bolo knife when he wasn't allowed to pass a checkpoint, the other was a suicide-by-cop from a former soldier with PTSD (he served in the Battle of Marawi a few years back) who acted like he had a gun in his bag. They seem hellbent on portraying the Philippines in the worst light possible, which is ironic given that in terms of numbers, the Philippines is actually succeeding. With a death rate right now on par with Japan at around 900 deaths. A far cry from any of the western or Latin American countries. And unlike China, we can't fake the numbers.
Not saying the cops and officials aren't corrupt. There are extreme examples of corruption. From that general who held a birthday party in the middle of lockdown. To the cops who were fining residents for stepping one foot outside their house without a mask, to cops raiding private condos and pointing guns at families for people being out in the private gardens, to local officials siphoning funds from the aid meant for poorer citizens, to Duterte's minions trying to shut down a national TV broadcaster. But overall, we're NOT being gunned down for violating quarantine.
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@Qylk ISIS don't drink alcohol. Do they have less crimes?
Your religion was founded by violence. In terms of sheer destruction, you have destroyed much much more cultures in the past. The Persian Empire, the Byzantine Empire, Ancient Egypt, the formerly women-dominant Berbers of North Africa, Carthage, the Rajput kingdoms of Pakistan, the Gandhara Dynasty of Afghanistan, the various kingdoms in India that were conquered by the Mughals, all the lands that the Mongols invaded, and so on. You destroyed countless ancient temples and sacred sites and are still doing so today. You were enslaving people centuries before the colonial era. Go research the history of the Mardijker people.
In fact, the Majapahit Empire of Indonesia was destroyed by a civil war caused by the arrival of your religion. The Balinese people are the last surviving remnants of true Indonesian culture. Now you're complaining about Europeans when Indonesia invaded West Papua less than a few decades ago?
Find better excuses.
P.S. I just love how Youtube censored me three times before I could post this comment. It seems mentioning keywords related to your religion is also forbidden from being talked about openly.
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@sampahpribadi Because it is true. Asian cultures in general are patriarchal (though still less than the Middle East or most of Africa). The fact that you look down on women who marry foreigners, regardless of the reason, is itself already a reflection of that.
Having female political leaders is only part of the factors, HDI is irrelevant. The Gender Gap Index measures economic participation, educational attainment, health and survival, and political empowerment, as a whole.
The Philippines is #16 currently, worldwide, from the Global Gender Gap Report for 2023. Higher than first world countries like the UK or the US. It's also 4th worldwide in terms of women in leadership roles (in both politics and the private sector).
The highest ranking it has received for the Gender Gap Index was #7, tied with New Zealand, around a few years ago.
The next closest SEA country is Singapore, at #49. Then Laos at #54, Vietnam #72, Thailand #74, Indonesia #87, Cambodia #92, Timor-Leste #95, Brunei #96, Malaysia #102, and Myanmar #123.
If you're wondering how East Asia ranks. They're even more patriarchal. Japan is #125, China #107, S. Korea #105.
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@Hans Schürle And who will apologize for the destruction of other Asian cities in the hands of the Japanese and Americans in WW2? Hiroshima and Nagasaki were horrible, as well as the firebombed Japanese cities. But they unfairly hog the spotlight for cities destroyed in WW2, despite being justified.
Hirsohima and Nagasaki were rebuilt by the Japanese and Americans. Cities like Manila, which was the second most devastated capital city in WW2 after Warsaw, never recovered, and never received enough reparations or attention. The cultural loss alone is incalculable, as the loss of Spanish-Filipino architecture spanned the entire Philippine islands. There was similar devastation of old cities like Cebu where the war usually ended up destroying colonial architecture because they tend to become centers of military activity. Schools, theatres, churches, convents, etc.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were mere destroyed cities. They destroyed our country's history and cultural pride.
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@arbs3ry That's my point. People who don't speak a lingua franca tend to be more isolated from the rest of the world. English, Spanish, Arabic, French, Portuguese, and Russian have the largest "reach" of speakers outside of their original country.
It enables them to form connections outside their borders. While monolingual countries whose languages are not spoken outside their countries tend to have a smaller, inward-looking worldview.
Your country, whether you admit it or not, has an authoritarian government. And authoritarian governments, in general, WANT that smaller inward-looking worldview. Which means either they physically limit interactions outside their countries (like North Korea, Afghanistan, Iran, etc.), and/or they control the media and communications (like China, Brunei, Saudi Arabia, etc.).
Note that I'm making a distinction between the Chinese people and Beijing. What you're doing now, may not be what Beijing wants in the long run. Especially under Xi.
When you and I talk, as citizens of different countries. We recognize we're both just people. Even if I don't exactly like your current government. For the simple reason that we CAN communicate. Even though English is NOT our native languages.
Now ask an average North Korean on their ideas on how the outside world and outside people are. And they'll likely say foreigners are all devils who want to destroy them and eat their babies, because that's all their government tells them. And they CAN'T communicate with the outside world to see for themselves. And that's exactly what the Kims want, so they can justify and hold on to their absolute power. It's why even just listening to K-Pop or watching K-dramas is a crime punishable by death in North Korea.
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@longjunbai1337 "not allowed" = illegal. Just this year, your beloved government removed all VPN apps from China's Apple Store. They may not act on it now, but you and everyone else in China know that you can only use VPN because your government choose to ignore it... for the meantime. But you know they are watching all of you. Everything you do online.
At any time, they can decide to shut down the Great Firewall and isolate you and everyone else from the outside world, like they did before VPNs existed. You only see what they want you to see. To the point that they can wipe out entire topics from your domestic internet and media (poor Winnie the Pooh). Which is why most of you seem completely ignorant of the actions of your government and its effects outside your country. Like a herd of sheep.
I know plenty of Chinese people and Chinese-Filipinos. Again, I have no problem with the Chinese, you're just people, like everyone else. I have a problem with China, the country. Of course, you'd deny your country is totalitarian. You don't want the Chinese secret police to take you down or lower you "social credit rating". lol
And spoken like someone who has never been free. Money gives you financial freedom, but that is not the same thing as personal freedom. It is not something you can appreciate unless you've experienced it.
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Taku Morisaki. Right. I'll remember that next time a Japanese person says "konpyuta" (computer) or "sarariman" (salary man) or "toraburu" (trouble). LOL. Chinese, Vietnamese, and Thai have a ton of loanwords from English. Especially for technological and scientific terms. You just don't recognize them because they're spelled natively. The only reason they don't code-switch is because they don't speak English widely.
Meanwhile, Taglish is just a code-switching dialect. Similar to other code-switching dialects in Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, India, Hong Kong, etc. where mixing native languages with English is also very common. Are you also going to accuse them of not having a native language? LOL
Similarly, there's Tok Pisin of Papua New Guinea. Which is basically pidgin English. And you know why they speak it? Because there are 832 languages in PNG. The only way they can understand each other is with a common language. And the easiest is a variant of English.
If you're curious, the Philippines has more than 170 native languages. Tagalog is NOT even the most widely spoken native language. That's part of the reason why English is popular. It's a common language that transcends ethnic groups.
In contrast, Vietnam only has like 9, and virtually everyone speaks Vietnamese. Chinese has around 300. But given that Chinese has a system of writing that can be understood without having to speak the same language, they do not need a real common spoken language. Regardless, minority languages in China are dying because Mandarin is slowly killing them. And yet you accuse us of not having our own language. lel
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@L L And forcing us to speak in Tagalog isn't? As I've mentioned, most Filipinos (around 70 million people) are not Tagalog. For most of us, Tagalog is NOT our mother tongue. The decades of Tagalog being taught in Filipino schools is actually the main reason for the erosion and even extinction of some of the native languages in the Philippines, not English.
That's the reason in the first place why so many Filipinos eventually came to prefer English. As a sort of protest against the imposition of Tagalog over our own mother tongues.
It's similar to the situation in Indonesia, where many of the minority languages are slowly dying as Bahasa is imposed over them. Or in Japan, where languages like Okinawan are the last of the languages to die as they are replaced by the overwhelmingly more prevalent Japanese. Or Vietnam, where Vietnamese is similarly well on its way to erasing all other other minority languages. And so on and so forth.
As a foreigner, they will all sound suitably "Asian" and "beautiful" to you, so you won't even realize that it's happening. As far as "killing" mother-tongues go, English is far from being the deadliest in Asia. I'd rather we speak "ugly" if it means we retain our diversity, than speak "beautiful" but end up becoming a monolingual culture.
Code-switching is not pretty, but it allows the continued use (and thus survival) of minority languages. A non-Asian example of this is the use of Spanglish among Chicanos in the US. Sure it sounds weird, but it means that even if they've become very much Americanized, they still speak their native Spanish in addition to English.
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@erls5206 Why would anyone make statistics for that? Let me put it this way, as I've said in another comment, I know around 20+ women personally in my immediate circle of family, friends, and acquaintances who married foreigners.
Almost all of them are financially stable professionals, and come from middle class families. The majority of them also didn't meet their husbands online, but in person while working or living abroad.
Despite what you see on networks like CNA or videos like this one, the vast majority of the population of the Philippines are in the middle class. They're neither struggling nor that desperate to marry the first foreign guy that proposes to them.
They're the ones who have ready access to things like online dating or traveling/working abroad, not to mention, the ones who are educated and fluent in English. Which means they're the ones who usually end up marrying foreigners.
You can see it for yourself among Filipino celebrities. Quite a significant amount of them are married/engaged to foreign spouses or are children of intermarriages. Eugene Domingo, Nadine Lustre, Rachelle Ann Go, Isabelle Daza, Iza Calzado, Glaiza de Castro, Solenn Heusaff, Lovi Poe, Bianca King, Ate Glow, Cindy Kurleto, Pia Wurtzbach, etc.
The sheer frequency of intermarriages in the Philippines (around 3% each year) across all classes means that the reasons for why it happens goes much much deeper than the absurdist simplification that they're all just predatory money grabs.
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@Himanshu_Doi Still doesn't make it a betrayal though. If anything, diasporas end up helping the economies of the mother country by bringing in future investments, remittances, as well as new ideas. In the Philippines for example, the overseas workforce constitute a very large part of the economy, and has enabled families to rise up from poverty. You see new houses and new businesses being built every day now, fueled in part by the money being sent back, as well as second generation immigrants abroad investing more money on local businesses. Then there's new ideas as well, both received and sent out. You learn new things from other people in the same way that other people learn new things about your own culture.
How would any of those be considered "betraying" the mother country or being "ashamed" of it, I don't know. It lifts everyone up. The only downside to it is the brain drain. As long as your mother country and your adopted country don't end up on opposite sides of a war, there's no conflict in terms of cultural pride and national pride.
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"Negro"/"Negra" in the Philippines is not a racial slur. The words are Spanish originally. They mean "black" and is used in exactly the same way as "black" is used in the US. The word is also used in Latin America and Spain with no negative connotations, unlike in the US.
"N***er" however is derogatory, but given that the Philippines has no history of African slavery, it's merely a "borrowed" slang street kids get from American movies and hiphop culture. They have no idea about the history behind that word. Merely that it's something white Americans seem to like calling black people to make them mad. So they do it. Kids are cruel that way.
Adult Filipinos (generally) do not do that. Because most people are aware of racism in the US, and there are a few half-black celebrities in the Philippines (Jaya, apl.d.ap, etc.). Plus the general non-confrontational culture of the Philippines. In contrast to China for instance where grown-ass people will literally touch your skin to see if the color comes off, or people will run away when they see a black person, because they have very little knowledge of what goes on in western countries.
She's a Filipino who grew up in the Philippines. Her own perceptions are that of Filipinos, not of Black Americans, hence why she doesn't really get that angry about it. It's no worse than being teased by other kids for being fat or being poor, etc. It's sad, but it's really not a racial thing. There is no malevolent intent behind the words, in contrast to when you hear it in the US. It's just kids being cruel to kids who look different.
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@elainereyes7722 You are a pro-Duterte supporter are you not? So you assumed I was anti-Duterte because I am opposing this law on the grounds that I do not trust our cops. Let me quote you:
"The problem is opposition will always opose no matter what"
Implying that I am opposing the law simply because I was a member of the opposition. I am neither pro- nor anti-Duterte. I support some of his laws. I oppose others. Call me what I actually am: a responsible citizen. Not a "follower" who thinks certain politicians are right, no matter what they actually do in their terms. And in case you were wondering, I voted for the late Miriam Santiago last election.
Of course it's not my job to fix corruption. LOL. I'm not Batman. Neither is it yours, unless we both decide to run for office. It's the government's job to fix corruption. It's literally why we pay their salaries. And you don't even need me for recommendations, multiple other countries already have models we can use to lower corruption, from lifestyle checks to bodycams to simply better training and entrance requirements. But heck, even in cadets in school, people still die regularly from hazing which is ironically against the law.
The only thing we citizens can do is vote. And even that is fallible because most people vote based on allegiances, not on platforms or even competence, which is how we end up with absolutely useless people like Bato in the Senate.
I'm not even sure what your point is. Are you saying it's our fault that the government is corrupt? Are you saying the government is not corrupt?
Or are you saying we should ignore the corruption because we can't fix it and just hope the police and military won't abuse it? Because again, even within the last few months, cops have repeatedly demonstrated how inept they can be. From the rapist cops in Ilocos who killed the 15-year old victim; to the cops in Sulu who ambushed soldiers; to the cops who were smuggling a truckload of beer into ECQ areas and then got into a gunfight with other cops; to the cops who tried to fine a maid for watering plants literally just outside the house without a mask, and so on. Absolute incompetence everywhere I look. And we're supposed to just believe they won't abuse their newfound powers to imprison anyone without trial.
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@MikhailKalashnikovMiG No I'm just saying how ridiculous your claims of independent journalism is, from a country like China where your government controls every single information that gets to you. And the funny thing is you think we're the ones who are "brainwashed" by western media.
As I've said, ask a Central Asian how they feel. Ask an Uyghur how they feel. You can google that easily enough... oh wait. You can't. XD
Unlike you, we aren't blinded, deafened, or silenced by our governments, we see what your government does from firsthand experience.
Which is why the statement in the video itself is hilarious. You really do believe other countries love China so much. Haha.
What's pathetic is your only defense is "but Central Asians like us when we give them money!"
China has no one else to blame for its own reputation but its own actions. From the China-India border war, to friendship with the tyrants in North Korea, to the annexation by force of Tibet and Xinjiang, to the South China Sea military islands, to the loss of Sri Lankan territory from debt. There's no reason why other Asian countries should trust you. Without trust, there is no friendship.
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@callietowers7515 No it's colorism. Ilang half-black Filipinos ba kakilala mo? Ako wala. Ilang half-white Filipinos kakilala mo? Ako madami, including pamilya ko. Tapos nagwo-wonder ka kung bakit less represented sila?
And I mentioned Koreans, Chinese, etc. because they're proof against your claim na colonial mentality ang ugat ng problema natin. Nagagandahan ba sila pag pure Korean/Chinese/Japanese na maitim ang balat (and yes, meron ganun)? Hindi. So how in the world do you explain that if you're claiming na TAYO lang ang ayaw sa maitim dahil nasakop tayo ng Kastila?
HINDI SILA NASAKOP, pero ayaw din nila ng maitim. Mas ayaw pa nga nila kesa sa atin. Gets mo? So your argument is baseless na ganun tayo dahil sa colonial mentality.
Innate lang talaga sa atin na nagagandahan tayo sa maputing balat. Mismo wala pa ang kastila, may ganun na tayong ugali. At hindi lang tayo. LAHAT NG ASIA. It's a beauty standard, and has nothing to do with race or colonialism.
But thing is. It doesn't apply universally. Kahit maitim balat mo if maganda ka talaga, maganda ka talaga. Again Jaya and Wilma Doesnt. BOTH women are regarded as beautiful, heck Wilma is a MODEL (and have you seen her daughter Asiana? She's gorgeous). Kahit dark ang skin nila, maganda sila. Or the other example I gave earlier: Venus Raj. Hindi rin typical na beauty contestant kasi morena, pero napakaganda rin sa mata ng Pilipino. So bakit nyo ginigeneralize? Beauty is beauty.
Di mo yata alam kung gaano kalalim ang pinag-ugatan ng racism sa ibang bansa. Sinisimplify mo na parang napaka-shallow lang ang rason. Hindi lang KULAY ang racism. Hindi away-bata ang racism. Napadaming pinagdaanan kung bakit may racism sa ibang bansa. Slavery, violence, genocide.
Tayo? May pinagdaanan ba tayong ganun against sa mga taong maitim ang balat? Wala. May pinatay na ba tayong tao dahil maitim balat nla? Wala. Wala tayong galit o pagkamuhi sa kanila. Simple ignorance lang at ang built-in natin na paghanga sa mga taong maputi.
Wag nyong gawing ibang issue. SJW na ang dating ninyo. IBA ang ugat ng ating di pagkakagusto sa maitim na balat, hindi racism. Lalo nyo lang pinahihirap ang sarili ninyo.
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Yes No LOL. We had an old and cheap Hyundai Galloper as the family car. It always broke down. No one in the family wears jewelry, much less own a Prada or LV. My dad was a farmer, we own a few hectares of farmlands which is our main income. My mother manages a small store (we call them "sari-sari stores", google it). My siblings and I have mostly all moved abroad and send money regularly to support our parents, though we aren't rich either. We have a modest concrete family house with electricity, internet, and running water. We are all college-educated.
Our circumstances are the same as most of the people in our town, most also have OFWs (Overseas Filipino Workers) or family members that live abroad or are citizens of other countries. People who make a monthly income of 15,000 pesos to 100,000 pesos (around $300 to $2000). That should give you an idea of what middle class means in the Philippines. We are the people that Mark does not make videos of. We comprise around 40% of the total population of the Philippines.
A further 40% are classified as "low-income". Families earning around 8000 to 15,000 pesos a month ($160 to $300). These families are not considered poor either. Though they usually own motorcycles instead of cars, for example. These may seem poor to other countries, but remember that the cost of living is much lower in the Philippines. They may not be able to afford western comforts, but they eat regularly and can afford to give their kids a better education (which is why a lot are now moving up).
The true poor people, who live below the poverty line of less than 8,000 pesos a month, comprise only around 20% of the population as of 2015 (though that has been shrinking). Most also don't have problem with food, especially if they live in the rural areas where food is plentiful. Though given their low income, they usually have problems sending their children to universities (though a lot still do, since state universities are free and it ensures a better future). The most vulnerable groups of course, are the squatters of Manila who refuse to move out, even though they will have a better life if they go back to the rural areas. They chose their circumstances.
It's funny how you really believe the middle class doesn't exist in the Philippines. Start watching other videos of the Philippines. Not just Mark's.
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That's the problem. You foreigners never seem to want to delve deeper and just want to accept things at face value. She's lying. that's why she's getting bashed. As a Filipino, let me enumerate her lies:
1. The rallyists were arrested for violating rules against congregating in public. They were putting themselves and others at risk.
2. ALL families are getting food rations. We just received ours a few days ago, and we're a middle class family.
3. Poor and middle class families are getting cash assistance.
4. Workers not being able to work are getting additional cash assistance from the labor department.
5. Cops will only arrest you if you violate curfew. You are allowed to go out and buy food and supplies.
6. The banning of public mass transport varies by city. Some areas have allowed certain transportation to continue operations to service people with no personal vehicles. There are also scheduled FREE transport for the elderly, minors, and health workers without personal vehicles.
7. Banks, supermarkets, wet markets, and other essential industries remain open.
8. Supply ships, planes, and trucks are allowed to pass through checkpoints.
9. People carrying humanitarian supplies are ALLOWED to pass through checkpoints.
10. The special powers Duterte has been granted is temporary. It is also not special, but is part of the emergency powers during a national crisis. The powers allow him to take over private hospitals, public utility businesses, and public transport, temporarily as needed. That's it.
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yage bai "fact". LOL Is that what your mother tells you? In Asia alone, the only countries which love China are North Korea and Pakistan, and Bangladesh. And they only love you because you sell them weapons and they have different enemies (South Korea and India).
Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam, Mongolia, India, Bhutan, etc. all hate China. Even in countries which your government controls (Cambodia, Laos), the common people do not like you. Heck, even Southeast Asian Chinese, and Hong Kong Chinese hate your mainlander ass. 😂 Countries which formerly liked you before the 9-dash dispute (Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand) are all beginning to see you as a threat to Asian peace and progress, and are withdrawing from contracts they signed with you. You are threatening a vital sea-lane to us Southeast Asians.
There are 3.1 million Filipino-Americans in the US, mostly historical populations in Guam, Hawaii, California, and Alaska. The second largest Asian-American minority after you. I'm one of them. We have the highest rate of assimilation in the US out of ALL the migrant groups (not only for Asians), because we share very similar cultural values already.
Contrast this with the 5 million Chinese-Americans, many of them still can not speak English and are viewed with suspicion. Like you. Most second or more-generation Chinese-Americans (and Chinese-Canadians) who have assimilated also identify as Americans/Canadians first and view you as a hostile nation with a brainwashed population. And they're right.
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@sunen7129 While yes, beauty standards are strongly affected by mass media and cultural interaction, that is still an attraction for the exotic, rather than simply being about race.
Because it stems from the romantic ideal in media that we are most exposed to (songs, books, movies, art, etc.), as you have already pointed out, NOT race. We get exposed to a lot more western media due to our ability to speak English, hence our beauty standards get inevitably influenced by THEIR beauty standards.
Notice, for example, that in younger Filipinos, the ideals have shifted to that of East Asian features. Driven by the popularity of K-Pop. Both in men and women.
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@hiphipjorge5755 Yes, you could say it was classism. But it wasn't racism. There was a caste system in the Spanish Philippines with the Spanish-born whites at the top (the peninsulares), then the Philippine-born whites (the criollos), then the mestizos (mixed-white), the natives ("Indios") who comprised much of the peasant class, and finally the Chinese migrants who were the merchant class. But it wasn't rigid. The Filipino aristocratic class (the Principalia) itself was partly composed of former native chieftains who were granted Spanish titles and offices (the "dons") under the colonial government. Mixed marriages were pretty common.
Neither were there African slaves. During the early days when Portugal still answered to Spain, there were a few instances of slavery (mostly Papuans). The Portuguese were expert slavers. Like the Dutch, Belgians, and the Sultanate of Zanzibar, the economy of the Portuguese Empire depended heavily on the slave trade. But after the split and the subsequent hostile relations with Spain, there was zero African slavery, or any kind of real slavery in the Philippines, period.
You have to understand that Spain was very different from other colonial powers during the colonial era. While other countries focused only in acquiring wealth, Spain had a very different mission at the forefront: religion.
Once you are converted to Christianity, you automatically become subjects of the Spanish crown. Complete with human rights, one of which was that you can not be enslaved. While in practice, you could still work in slave-like conditions under the encomienda system, again, this was generally mitigated by the Leyes Nuevas. Filipino natives were in essence, "citizens" of the Spanish Empire, on the same footing (theoretically at least) as commoner white Spaniards (although of course, both were always below the nobility).
Further enhancing the difference is the fact that the Spanish East Indies was too far from Spanish America (Nueva España) to be much affected by it. Even though it was technically under their jurisdiction. There was a unique native Spanish-Filipino culture different from that of other subregions of Nueva España. The most obvious difference is that there were far more native Filipinos than there were Spanish colonists. The result of a simple fact: the Philippines was part of the Old World, and thus were immune to the diseases that killed off most Native Americans. The conquest of the Philippines was also largely through diplomacy and conversion, not through bloody wars.
Laslty, the Philippines implemented Leyes Nuevas (followed by the more comprehensive Leyes de Indias) more or less fully, unlike Latin America where powerful local colonial factions abused it and still continued virtually enslaving the Native Americans.
While yes, Filipinos generally acquired their reverence for Spanish features from the fact that the whites comprised most of the ruling classes during the Spanish period, it really didn't factor in much when it comes to the reverence of fair skin.
Because here's the thing: there was also already a caste system in Filipino societies before the arrival of the Spanish. Composed of the royal families and nobility (tumao/maginoo), the warrior class (timawa/maharlika), and the peasant/serf class (alipin).
Very fair skin was a sign of nobility. Princesses of native noble lineages (the binokot, literally "veiled ones"; or dayang, "lady") did not even so much as touch the ground. They were always carried in palanquins and shielded by parasols at all times. Having very fair skin was the symbol of being of high birth or at least of being rich. This was the same all throughout eastern Asia, and the modern-day obsession with fair skin is merely a continuation of it.
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@L L 🤣 No. Language-switching (code-switching) is a phenomenon which only happens in cultures where people speak 2 or more languages fluently. India, Hong Kong, and Singapore are other places where code-switching with English is also common. It's a sign of a polyglot culture, not laziness.
We don't code-switch because it's trendy or cute, we code-switch because it allows us to convey something in the clearest way possible without the risk of misunderstandings.
On that note, LOL, when you say "Indonesian is a beautiful language", which language are you referring to? You didn't know, did you? That code-switching is ALSO very common in Indonesia. 😂
Like the Philippines, most Indonesians speak 2 or more languages. People whose primary language is NOT Bahasa Indonesia (more accurately Riau Malay) will usually code-switch between Bahasa and their native language in everyday conversations. English and Arabic code-switching are also common, though not as common as in the Philippines. Try reading the facebook posts of your friends and family right now. LOL. Tell me how many of them use pure Bahasa. Especially if you're not Malay (e.g. you're Javanese, Papuan, Makassarese, etc.)...
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The main theme among some mainland Chinese commenters seems to be "everyone else borrows words, we're special, because we don't", while ignoring all the perfectly logical reasons why the Chinese language tends to be incompatible with other languages and their systems of writing, as well as the fact that it is extremely difficult to tell at first glance whether an (old) Chinese word is a loanword or not. Due to its monosyllabic nature, as well as the fact that the Chinese writing system is not phonetic.
I bet none of them even realize that the Chinese words for non-Han technologies that they later assimilated were all initially loanwords. Including the words for "rice cultivation", "chicken", and "elephant". All of which have been historically "Yue" (Austro-Tai, Hmong-Mien, and Mon-Khmer) technologies, from an area that is now the lower Yangtze to southern China (the Han are originally from the more northern region between the Wei and Yellow Rivers). Technologies that the Han acquired when they conquered the Yue.
For example: the Old Chinese word for "river" (specifically the Yangtze river) is *krong. It's derived from Proto-Mon-Khmer *rung (cognates include Proto-Viet *krong and Mon *krang). Modern derivatives in Chinese include Cantonese gong, Hakka kông, and Hokkien kang ; and it forms part of the name of the island of Hong Kong.
To a layperson, those words look totally Chinese today. But they're not. The native Old Chinese word for river is shuǐ (specifically the Yellow River, as opposed to the Yangtze; it also means "water").
Regardless of what their current government wants them to believe, China was never isolated. It absorbed words from other languages just as other languages absorbed words from Chinese. This isn't a competition on whose language is purer than anyone else's.
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@yellowbeez93 Are all the people punished by shariah rapists then? LOL. No. What's more hilarious is that in a lot of Muslim countries, including Indonesia, male rapists don't get punished. It is the female victims who get punished for "premarital sex". After all, the testimony of a man is worth more than the testimony of a woman in shariah.
Remember that woman in Aceh who was gang raped in 2014 by eight men, while her companion was tied up and beaten? Her rapists, her ACTUAL RAPISTS, as in the eight men who raped her, took her to the Shariah police (the Wilayatul Hisbah) and reported her for premarital sex.
Instead of being treated like victims, she and her companion were punished with nine lashes.
And what about that student who was raped by three Shariah police officers after she was caught riding on a motorcycle with her boyfriend? Also in Aceh.
I can give you hundreds more examples of rape being done in the name of shariah, or victims of rape being punished by shariah. A lot more. Including the 5,000 women who are killed through honor killings by their own fathers and brothers EACH YEAR, which are extremely common in the Middle East, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Bangladesh.
Don't make me laugh with your moralizing. Rapists get punished in non-Muslim countries with secular laws just fine, you don't need shariah for that. Meanwhile, in shariah countries, the rape victims are the ones punished.
Under shariah, in your example, your daughter will get caned for premarital sex. While your mother and your wife will both be stoned to death for adultery. Don't worry though, you, as a man, and their rapists will probably not be punished at all.
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@hildegrade777 I repeat what I said earlier: "They controlled the people through local rulers they subjugated, not by controlling the people directly. They were viewed with hostility, not admiration." The European powers never directly controlled China, instead they forced China to give them trading cities using military threat. The same with Japan and Korea. So no they weren't "colonized" in the same way as the Philippines and certain parts of SE Asia like the White Rajahnate of Sarawak were.
The claim that colonialism had a huge impact on these countries and thus influenced their beauty standards therefore flies in the face of the fact that the natives in those countries never liked the colonial powers and never actually interacted with them much. Japan literally fought WW2 on the excuse of removing colonial powers from Asia. While China had the Opium Wars and the Boxer rebellion and finally the cultural revolution (which also erased thousands of years of their own culture). Korea, before it fell to Japanese control was isolationist like Japan. All of them persecuted European influence, including the spread of Christianity.
And I stress again, the Europeans in China, Japan, and Korea during the colonial period were ridiculously tiny in population in comparison to the countries they were trading with/controlling, and they were restricted to enclaves like Shanghai, Hong Kong, Macau, Dejima, Geomun, etc.
While they had a very large technological impact on these countries, the average citizens in these countries have never seen white people. So how exactly do European standards of beauty affect them when they've never seen them in the first place?
Heck. Europeans were seen as DEMONS, not people to be looked up to or worshiped. The words Gwailou, Gaijin, Guizi, etc. are all insults. Not words of praise.
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@theheavenlyoption Here. I'll give you a list answer that I've written in reply to another commenter. It should give you an idea of why Filipinos here are angry at the Philippine correspondent:
1. The rallyists were arrested for violating rules against congregating in public. They were putting themselves and others at risk. They were NOT arrested for asking for help or food. Seriously, we're in quarantine, and you organize a crowd and expect not be arrested?
2. ALL families are getting food rations. We just received ours a few days ago, and we're a middle class family.
3. Poor and middle class families are getting cash assistance.
4. Workers not being able to work are getting additional cash assistance from the labor department.
5. Cops will only arrest you if you violate curfew. You are allowed to go out and buy food and supplies.
6. The banning of public mass transport varies by city. Some areas have allowed certain transportation to continue operations to service people with no personal vehicles. There are also scheduled FREE transport for the elderly, minors, and health workers without personal vehicles in some cities.
7. Banks, supermarkets, wet markets, and other essential industries remain open.
8. Supply ships, planes, and trucks are allowed to pass through checkpoints.
9. People carrying humanitarian supplies are ALLOWED to pass through checkpoints.
10. The special powers Duterte has been granted is temporary. It is also not special, but is part of the emergency powers during a national crisis. The powers allow him to take over private hospitals, public utility businesses, and public transport, temporarily as needed. That's it. It doesn't allow him to "do everything" like the correspondent said. Not even shoot people, no matter what he says.
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It has nothing to do with how old it was. It was because India (specifically the Dravidian-speaking southern India) was one of the very first people contacted by Austronesian sailors (which happened at around 1500 BC). They introduced coconuts, bananas, sugarcane, betel and areca nut, ginger, and so on to India. In turn, India influenced the closest Austronesian states, "Indianizing" the Malays, Javanese, Sundanese, Acehnese, and so on. The Philippines is a bit further from India, so the Indian influence is less strong, but it's still there, largely due to trade contacts with Indianized Malays. Still, like Bali, some states in the pre-colonial Philippines were Hindu-Buddhist. Most notably, the Rajahnate of Butuan.
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@marko3096 And your solution to that is to punish prostitutes, fine them, cast them out, beat them up, and/or jail them? Driving them even deeper into the underworld and criminal organizations to survive? THAT is the final nail on the coffin.
In countries where prostitution is legal, there are no human traffickers, no girls being forced, they can choose their customers, choose the location, their prices, and all in the safety of full legal protections including police who treat them as people, not as monsters.
Tell me a country where there is ZERO prostitution and I'll show you a magical unicorn who makes all your wishes come true.
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@sunen7129 Let me illustrate it this way: in my immediate circle of family, friends, and acquaintances. I know around 20+ women who married foreign men, including one of my older sisters who married an American.
Only around a third were by online dating. The rest met their husbands while they were working or living abroad. All of the men are either North American, European, or Australian, including an aunt who married a Black American while working as a teacher in the US (she was already a US citizen when they got married).
Most are from financially stable middle class families, half got married in their 20s, the rest when they were older (the oldest being in her 40s). 2 ended in divorce (all online daters), because they couldn't get along. The rest are still married, most with kids. Most married men of roughly the same age, with longest age gap being I think around 10.
I do not know anyone who married a South Korean or Japanese personally. I know a few from social media, but that's it.
Like how does this even fit with the narrative that they're just marrying for money or because of racism?
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Yes No North Korea has no slums. Are they a rich country? Nope. Their people are literally starving.
Slums are a natural part of the industrialization of densely populated countries. It's the result of internal migration. When the rural population starts moving en masse to cities in hopes of finding jobs. Especially in countries like the Philippines where the economic center is just one city. It's a problem virtually all cities face. They disappear naturally once a country catches up with social welfare and/or spreads out its economic centers to other areas of the country.
If you think only the Philippines has slums, think again. Most countries have slums (even highly developed ones like South Korea, the US, or China). They're just better at hiding it, and they sure as heck don't make videos of it. Bangkok has slums. Jakarta has slums. Paris has slums. Dubai has slums. Los Angeles has slums.
Authoritarian governments especially can demolish slums and force people to move with little or no consequences, hence why they seem "cleaner" and "richer" outwardly. China for example, does slum demolitions right up to this day. Their term for slums is 城中村 (chéngzhōngcūn, literally "rural villages in the city" - which is a very accurate name). It doesn't fix the poverty problem, but it sure makes them look like they don't have one. Another example is Kuala Lumpur, which used to have slums, before the government forced them to move to low-cost apartments on the outskirts of the city where you can't see them.
The Philippines is a democracy. Thus removing slums by force is not looked upon favorably, hence why we have more problems dealing with it, than countries which can just kick citizens out.
But yes, I know we have to help them. But not in the way that Mark is doing where he is selling our country's dignity, to the point that people like you look down on us like we're cockroaches. We need LONG-TERM solutions, like housing, long-distance public transport, jobs, and education. You don't solve poverty by giving 2 sacks of rice and making videos of poor people.
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@KIBRSIFR No. It's a different native language, one of the dozens in the Philippines. It's not even closely related to Malay. It belongs to the Borneo-Philippine branch of the Malayo-Polynesian languages, and is closely related to (like the original poster observed) Gorontaloan, Minahasan, Sangirese, etc. in Indonesia and Dayak, Dusun, Kadazan, Murut, etc. in Malaysia.
In contrast, Malay belongs to the Sunda-Sulawesi branch, along with Buginese, Javanese, Sundanese, Balinese, etc.
Malay to us Filipinos sound like a shortcut version of our languages. Especially since Malay does not have tenses. Your verbs look "frozen" to us.
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@L L Oh really? And which cultures would these be, pray tell? China? India? The Roman Empire? Mesopotamia? Ancient Greece? Fun fact: none of them have ever been monolingual and are still not monolingual, even to this day.
Moreover, half of the technologies China is claiming (like rice cultivation, jade carving, water buffalo and chicken domestication, etc.) are technically Southeast Asian, since the entire southern half of China were the homelands of the ancestral Southeast Asians (OUR ancestors) that the Chinese empire invaded about 2000 years ago. They assimilated those technologies, the Han didn't invent them.
And that, dear sir, is why it seems like major contributions all belong to large empires. It's not because they invented them. It's because they conquered, assimilated, and collected the various achievements of smaller ethnic groups. Achievements and discoveries that would not have been possible in the first place without the diversity that birthed them.
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@limbus_patrum "Psychological gratification is the usual motive for serial killing, and many serial murders involve sexual contact with the victim. The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) states that the motives of serial killers can include anger, thrill-seeking, financial gain, and attention seeking, and killings may be executed as such. The victims may have something in common; for example, demographic profile, appearance, gender or race. Often the FBI will focus on a particular pattern serial killers follow. Based on this pattern, this will give key clues into finding the killer along with their motives"
MOTIVE is what differentiates a serial killer from a mass murderer or a spree killer. You don't call mass shooters "serial killers" even if they murder 3 or more people. do you?
Serial killers usually don't know their victims. They don't kill because they need money, or they had a fight, or they want revenge, or someone paid them to do it. They kill for personal gratification. And that motivation is simply rare to nonexistent in homicide cases in developing countries.
Note that I am not sugarcoating crime in developing countries. Homicide is still pretty common. The point is that most of it is motivated by something else.
Again, look at mass shootings. Why is it a quintessentially AMERICAN problem? A lot of developing countries have similar access to guns. Especially in Latin America. They have gun violence, a LOT of it (usually gang-related), but they don't have the random mass shootings like the US does.
The excuse that first world countries have better policing and investigative capabilities doesn't work for that as well.
The opposite is also true. Honor killings or clan wars do not exist in first world countries.
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@Cxs1a3 Also every single country in Asia is a developing country, with the only exceptions being Singapore, Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea. "Developing" implies exactly what it means. Not what you THINK it means.
It's funny how you're so adamant in declaring us impoverished, as if you NEED someone to look down upon.
Yet you're talking to me right now. Do I sound impoverished to you? I come from the actual typical Filipino family. I'm from one of the other islands, a long way away from Manila. I'm a college graduate, I have a job, a car, a house. My parents are farmers with a family business. I have family members who emigrated abroad as well.
Read the other posts by the other Filipinos above. I'm willing to bet they too come from the same background as I do. As do almost everyone I know in real life.
The urban poverty in Manila has never been the "norm" for the vast majority of Filipinos. Yet so many of you who have never even visited the Philippines, think that's how all of us live.
And you act so threatened when we try and correct you.
I LIVE HERE. You don't. Learn to spell "Philippines" first.
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@otakuismybae2700 You're the THIRD person who just repeated my exact f*&cking point.
Ganito na ba talaga kapangit ang mga English teachers natin, na hindi nyo na naiintindihan ang punto ko dahil Ingles ang ginamit ko? Nakaka-asar na ang kabobohan ninyo,
Ang sabi ko nga walang gumagamit ng "salumpuwet", kasi nakakatawa at hindi totoong Tagalog. Ang salitang "Silya" ay galing din sa espanyol, hindi rin katutubong Tagalog.
Walang salita para sa FURNITURE mismo na upuan sa Tagalog, dahil hindi ito parte ng sinaunang kultura natin.
Additionally, ang salitang "upuan" ay hindi synonym ng "silya". Pwede mong tawaging "upuan" ang sahig, ang mesa, ang sanga ng kahoy, ang isang bato, etc. kasi hindi "chair" ang meaning nya. "upuan" simply means "sitting place".
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Also no. Not a lot of people eat wildlife in the rest of Asia. The only regions where it is extremely widespread is China and parts of Indochina. In other parts of Southeast Asia, wild animals are considered poverty food, only eaten when there's nothing else to eat. Contrast this with China were wildlife is considered luxury food and are very expensive. China is even more guilty because not only do they eat endangered wildlife, they POACH them from neighboring countries illegally. Pangolins especially nowadays are poached from the Philippines, Indonesia, and Malaysia by Chinese smugglers. Every year you hear news stories of another Chinese "fishing ship" caught with THOUSANDS of frozen pangolins, turtles, seahorses, and other endangered wildlife. And Beijing does nothing. Worse, they now claim the South China Sea, so they can continue poaching as much as they want now that they have warship guns pointed at everyone else.
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@hinata6757 LOL. Dami mong conspiracy BS, DDS-Wumao.
Last I checked, DEMOKRASYA tayo. Criticism of a sitting public official is how we exercise the fact that politiicans are OUR employees. We pay their salaries.
Kung gusto mo ng amo, emigrate ka na lang sa China. Doon, bawal kahit anong criticism sa Supreme Leader nila. Yun ata gusto mo eh.
P.S. Before you start the expected "dilawan ka!" screeching. I did not vote for Noynoy or Leni. I voted for Miriam. At least si Madam may prinsipyo, di gaya ng mga idol ninyo, duwag, sakim sa kapangyarihan, sinungaling, at parang mga batang nag-aaway sa kalye. Squatter mentality. DDS, Dilawan, pareho kayong TraPo.
I also initially supported Duterte during his early years. Before he started showing his true colors.
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@jinminchoi838
William Henry Scott, Ambeth Ocampo, James Francis Warren, Virgil J. Mayor Apostol, Michael L. Tan, Stephen Hislop, Jose S. Buenconsejo, Zeus A. Salazar, E. Arsenio Manuel, F. Landa Jocano, Laura Lee Junker, A.L. Kroeber, Faye-Cooper Cole and Albert Gale's translations of early Spanish books on the Philippines, Peter Bellwood's works on the Austronesian migrations, George Bryan Souza and Jeffrey Turley's translation and discussion of the Boxer Codex...
Want me to go on? LOL. Unlike you, I've been fascinated by precolonial history since I was a kid, and have read most of the books on it. Books by REAL academics, most holding teaching positions in major universities worldwide.
At least tell me you've read Barangay: Sixteenth Century Philippine Culture And Society, so I can at least respect you. If you haven't, then you know absolutely nothing. And talking with you further is worthless.
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@yyj271 You think this is a comparison game? Whatever other countries did is irrelevant. Let's see. Tibet. North Korea, Pol Pot, attacking Vietnam when they deposed Pol Pot, Uyghur gulags, the illegal wildlife trade of turtles and pangolins and ivory and tigers and other endangered animals openly eaten in Chinese restaurants and traditional medicine shops, the golden triangle triad drug trade, stealing IP and selling fake and dangerous products, claiming to own territories of Japan, India, Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia, Brunei, Indonesia, South Korea, claiming to own Taiwan, claiming to own the South China Sea and even Benham Rise in the East Philippine Sea, countless incidents of Chinese warships and illegal fishermen ignoring maritime borders (intruding as far as Chile and New Zealand), Chinese "militia" disguised as fishermen ramming civilian fishing boats in the SCS, tons of racism against other Asians (including restaurants refusing to serve Japanese and SE Asians; and the recent racism scandals against Africans in China), selling weapons to terrorist groups and regimes like North Korea, a separate internet that has no access to the global community (including Youtube I might add), censoring anything that insults the government or makes them look bad (including in international media, like Blizzard or the NBA), people simply disappearing for displeasing Beijing, the debt traps that allowed you to build military bases in Sri Lanka and Africa, breaking your promise of democracy in Hong Kong, OPENLY saying you want to invade Taiwan and that you're planning a war with the "imperialists" (= the west and other democracies). And now, COVID-19.
And here you are, saying "trust us." Your country will be the most likely cause of World War 3. All you've done so far is aggression. I can't think of a single good thing China has done for Asia. Even your "aid" requires payment in propaganda or worse.
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@borrico1965 LOL. DIgital Data act privacy protects you from data-harvesting sites like Facebook and Google. It is for private information like age, address, name, etc. It has NOTHING to do with taking a video of someone in a public place. Kung illegal yun, dapat illegal ang CCTV.
The relevant law is RA4200 the Anti-wiretapping law, which prohibits the recording of PRIVATE communications.
There's also RA9995, the Anti-voyeurism law, which prohibits the recording of people having sex, being nude, or doing activities in private.
THERE IS NO LAW THAT MAKES PUBLIC VIDEOS ILLEGAL. Wala. Nasa public sila, alam nilang dalawa na vinivideo niya yung isa. Hindi nagviolate sa RA4200 or RA9995.
Kunwari ka pang may alam.
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@sangwoo9686 What about them? This is ASIAN boss. We're talking about Asian culture. As I've already said, high suicide rates in other countries happen too, for various reasons. But the reasons in East Asian countries are all the same, hence why I group them together: social disconnect, work stress, high expectations of peers, high competition, family alienation, the loss of the traditional community and family values. The "loneliness epidemic".
There is even a term for it: Hikikomori. It is not restricted to Japan, but is a worldwide phenomenon. It is extremely prevalent in Japan, South Korea, China, and Taiwan within far east Asia; the countries with the highest level of industrialization in Asia with very similar "face" cultures. It's like these countries have forgotten to be happy and enjoy life, a cultural shift that now focuses on work and money and status.
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@chrisabrenica6267 No. Spain and Portugal absolutely hated each other for most of the colonial period because of their former union. The Portuguese and Spanish Iberian Union lasted from 1580-1640. After the creation of the Leyes Nuevas (1542) and the later Leyes de las Indias (1573). It was started by Spain's invasion of Portugal under King Felipe II (from whom the Philippines was named after), after King Sebastian of Portugal died and left no clear heir. And it only lasted 60 years. Spain was always the dominant power in the union. Laws of the Spanish Cortes applied to Portugal, including the Leyes Nuevas, and the former Portuguese colones became administered by Spain, not vice versa.
And Portugal didn't like that, so they revolted and started the Restoration War (1640-1668). During which, Portugal became allied with the French and the British, who were at war with Spain. Portugal won and gained independence in the Treaty of Lisbon in 1668. Portugal had already made peace with the Dutch earlier in 1663. Newly independent, it was during this time that the Portuguese started focusing on the slave trade. Not before. This was partly to differentiate themselves from Spain and partly to draw themselves closer to the Dutch and British who were trafficking mainly in slaves at this point.
They were never really friends afterwards. Portugal sided with the enemies of Spain in the various wars that followed. Including several other attempts by Spain to invade Portugal right up until the Napoleonic era.
You are also confusing the abuses of the encomienderos with slavery. Of course there were abuses, widespread even in some regions (especially in Latin America), but again, no real open enslavement of the natives. The first Governor-General of the Philippines, Miguel López de Legazpi, pretty much stamped out the early attempts at enslaving Indios that you mentioned. Reinforced by laws with harsher punishments issued by King Felipe II (yes, the same one, and yes, during the Iberian Union) on Spaniards who enslaved natives, as well as the establishment of local governments to ensure those laws are followed. People who still resisted the decrees (notably the notoriously brutal Gonzalo Pizzaro of Peru) were militarily suppressed and executed.
Encomiendas themselves were gradually abolished, as they were usually only granted for military service, and they only lasted for the lifetime of the grantee under a provision of the Leyes Nuevas. They were replaced by privately purchased haciendas later on. And while polo y servicio was forced labor and was very harsh in some instances, it was still not slavery because it was temporary and the workers are paid.
While yes, slavery of non-Christians was still technically legal, it wasn't on the same scale as the slavery in other colonial powers. Especially in the Philippines which is nowhere near the African slave trade and surrounded on the Indian Ocean side by hostile British, Dutch, and Portuguese powers. And once a slave was converted to Christianity, it again became illegal to hold them as slaves. Even the chinos of Mexico that Seijas discusses, had a clear distinction between the free Filipinos, and the enslaved Southeast Asians (most of whom are captured Muslim Filipinos, as well as slaves of other ethnicities from neighboring regions that were funneled through the Manila galleons). Furthermore, King Carlos V (Felipe II's father) had also earlier banned the travel of non-Christians (especially Muslims) into Spanish colonial territory, so the transport of these non-Christian slaves was also illegal (though openly flaunted).
Again, I don't really deny the fact that local Spanish colonists would routinely ignore royal decrees, including the latter one. Despite this, open slavery wasn't one of those. The punishment for breaking them was too harsh to be treated lightly. Abuse of workers and local subjects with slave-like conditions, yes. Actual slavery of natives, no.
The Leyes Nuevas and Leyes de las Indias had provisions for how to treat natives, which is why if you haven't noticed, that former Spanish colonies are starkly different from other colonial powers. The Spanish unified various settlements into cities in the Reducciones, some of which were violent. But they did it so they can specifically make infrastructure for the natives. Bridges, roads, plazas, churches, ports, pirate watchtowers, later schools and hospitals, and so on. And it applied to all settlements, not just the important trade ports of the Spanish. This is something that no other colonial power did for their conquered natives. Would they do that for slaves? No. The Spanish did so because everyone in the colonies were legally subjects of the crown, with the same (albeit very basic) rights as white Spaniards. Hence my objections to mischaracterizing the Spanish era.
You are forgetting that both the Philippines and former Spanish colonies in Latin America have innate biases against Spain, reinforced by later American vilification of Spain for their casus belli in the Spanish-American War. Hence why it is in their interests to portray Spain as some kind of monstrous slaver to justify their original revolutions. Including the current widespread belief in Latin America that Spain somehow killed the millions of pre-Columbian Native Americans with a handful of Spaniards, instead of the reality that they died because of waves of pandemics from introduced Old World diseases. Or the fact that most Filipinos today believe that the Spanish clergy were all uniformly as corrupt as Padre Damaso in Rizal's novels, or that Rizal himself wanted independence (he didn't, what he wanted was direct representation in the Cortes).
The simple reality is that the Spanish Empire, despite all its faults, wasn't as truly monstrous as the other colonial powers were. In fact, it was a downright saint in comparison to say, the Dutch or the Belgians. I am by no means excusing the abuses of the Spanish Empire, but for real, no other colonial power even attempted to treat their subjects as actual human beings. And that counts for a lot. That includes the fact that Spain never actually "enslaved" the Filipinos.
Anyway, this is already waaaay too long. Have a good night.
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@MyWorldIsYourOyster Because "base" Chinese is monosyllabic with a logographic writing system. They can stick several words together (and choose characters with the closest meanings) and "invent" a new word. You don't even realize that 亚洲 (yàzhōu) is ALSO a loanword from English. It's the short form of 亞細亞洲 (yàxìyà zhōu) literally "ya-xi-ya continent". The "ya-xi-ya" is just an approximate transliteration of English "A-si-a".
It's harder to "invent" new words in languages with words that have multiple syllables or an alphabetic writing system, like basically everywhere else in Asia (except perhaps Thai, Vietnamese, Burmese, and Cambodian). Because you can't "disguise" the new words as native. They will always look like they're loanwords. And if you try making up new words by joining two or more different native words - you end up with something that just sounds funny AND long. It's like trying to disguise the English word "airplane" by translating it into something that means "metalbird", or translating "computer" into "countingmachine". So it's easier, less jarring, and more understandable to simply borrow the entire word.
And the thing is, you actually NEED those loanwords for certain concepts and technologies that aren't native. Like a lot of modern things.
Linguistic "purity" is mostly nonsense. Language is constantly evolving. Even the languages that you think are "pure" today, like Chinese, are very different from their versions a mere century ago. They include embedded old loanwords as well from other languages. The word for "rice" in Chinese for example, is a very ancient loanword from the Hmong-Mien language family (because the Han Chinese were not the original cultivators of rice, although it happened within the borders of MODERN China).
And they certainly don't sound anything like their ancient versions. Old Chinese for example, actually had grammatical affixes. Modern Chinese does not. Old Chinese was not tonal (because words had consonant endings). Modern Chinese is (because words lost their former consonant endings and had to be distinguished from each other, e.g. "Wat" and "Wak", were now both "Wa" and "Wa", just with different tones).
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@GuyWithAnAmazingHat You're right in that Singlish sounds that way because of the underlying Chinese base. But it's not an "evolution" of anything, It's just English as spoken by someone who directly translated the words from Chinese without bothering with anything else.
Chinese may be informationally dense, due to the sheer amount of memorization required, but it's also GRAMMATICALLY SIMPLE. It has no plurals, no verb conjugation, no tenses, no particles, etc. Which is why it's difficult for Chinese speakers to learn languages which have more complex grammar.
Singlish is what it sounds like if a native Chinese speaker starts learning English, but then stops midway.
It's not even a sentence. It's just a string of words that only makes sense to someone who knows the context directly. Someone says "eat rice" in Singlish, and you wouldn't know if they meant they ate rice, they want to eat rice, they're planning to eat rice, if they're telling someone else to eat rice, or saying someone else already ate rice, etc. None of that is conveyed. That does NOT make it efficient at all.
It's just one step above Pidgin English. Calling it the "most highly efficient evolution" is hilarious.
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@sunen7129 Since that last part was anecdotal. Let's get to hard statistics from the Philippine Statistics Authority for 2022. Only around 3.3% of the total registered marriages in the country were of Filipinos and foreigners that's around 14,704 marriages in total out of around 500,000 marriages that year.
93.4% of that were Filipina women who married foreign men, while 6.6% were Filipino men who married foreign women.
The vast majority of intermarriages by Filipina women are with American men at 32.8% (4,499 marriages). Marriages with Chinese men are only around 7.5% (1,033 marriages). British men and Canadian men follows at both 7%, ~960 marriages. Followed lastly by Japanese men at 5.3% (732 marriages). The rest (40.3%) are with various other nationalities.
For Filipino men, their foreign wives are also mostly American (29%), followed by Canadian (15.8%), Japanese (9.2%), Chinese (5.8%), and Australian (5.3%).
The figures are relatively stable over the years for marriages to western men, but fluctuate in marriages to other nationalities. In 2019 for example, marriages to Chinese men weren't significant.
Of the marriages with Chinese nationals, most of those are probably marriages by Chinese Filipino families (in both men and women), since culturally, Chinese Filipinos do not marry non-Chinese partners.
A large number of these marriages are also probably by Overseas Filipino Workers who found partners while working abroad. Not mail order brides.
Again, how does this match up with the claim that these are all for money?
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@sunen7129 We are. Your argument was that Filipinas marry westerners because we see Europeans as being "superior." Except if that were the case, Filipinas should be also marrying East Asians (and actual Europeans from Europe, even) at roughly the same rate, which you identified as also "superior".
But they don't.
In reality, the vast number of intermarriages are still with nationals from English-speaking countries with the largest number of Filipino immigrants (US, Canada, UK, Australia, NZ). And they're not restricted to those of European descent. This is true also for Filipino MEN who marry foreigners, not just women.
Again our beauty standards originate from the media we consume. And in the Philippines, that is, by and large, western media. That also explains the rise of the number of Filipina women being infatuated with East Asian features. Because of K-Pop (and on a more general note, also due to the popularity of anime and the Taiwanese adaptation of Meteor Garden).
These are very specific for certain nationalities, and thus doesn't match your insistence that our beauty standards originate from race-based hypergamy.
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@sunen7129 Your argument was that these marriages were driven by perceptions of racial superiority.
1) Why wasn't it common in the 50s and 60s? Sure the Philippines was roughly on par with East Asia back then, fresh from independence, but still far behind western countries. So why weren't there Filipinas marrying Americans? Because it has nothing to do with race, instead it had to do with the diaspora itself, when people starting working abroad, as well as cultural interchange (western media, K-Pop, Spanish telenovelas, or anime, wasn't as pervasive). The same thing with Japan. Intermarriages with the Japanese happened at a time when a lot of Filipinas worked in Japan during their economic boom. It did not happen to richer East Asian countries where the Filipino diaspora was minimal (like China or South Korea, despite them being economically better than the Philippines by the 80s to 2000s).
2) Because you said it was racial. Not everyone who is a citizen in western countries are of European descent. You do know that, right?
3) You said it was because of a perception of the superiority of foreigners and foreign things. Easily debunked by the fact that no, we don't view all foreign things, even those from richer countries, as superior.
4) It means, despite South Korea's economic status (and East Asia in general) compared to the Philippines, it is still NOT a place that Filipinas are marrying men from in droves. The number is even lesser in China and Taiwan. Though maybe higher in Japan which has a longer history of Filipino OFWs. The marriages do NOT correlate with just husbands from richer (or in your argument, "superior") countries. The marriages happen with husbands from SPECIFIC countries that are either major destinations for the Filipino diaspora, or prevalent in Filipino popular media.
Sure, I'll just agree to disagree.
But again, read the papers I recommended. You'll find a lot of these marriages stem from romantic idealization and the desire to experience something new, very similar to the motives of the men themselves, not perceptions of racial superiority. Which is why it matches whichever beauty standard is popular in mass media.
If you want a highly simplified explanation of that, think of it as dreaming of marrying a handsome prince and being whisked away to a faraway kingdom. A HUMAN (though naive) reason, not something as cynical and coldly analytical as ethnicity or economics. You're taking away the women's ability to make decisions for themselves when you just grossly simplified it into that. The same way that a foreign guy might dream of a beautiful Filipina wife, is the same way that a Filipina might dream of a handsome foreign husband.
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@indonesiarayas2 It's similar in the Philippines, except replace Dutch, Portuguese, and Arabic with Spanish. We have a lot of Sanskrit loanwords as well, and some ethnic groups were more heavily Hindu-Buddhist, with the ones in contact with Malays the most becoming Islamized shortly before and during the Spanish occupation.
Code-switching for us also happens among various native languages, but English is the one most noticeable by foreigners. It happens because most people speak at least 3 languages - the native tongue, Tagalog/Filipino, and English. Filipino and English are the lingua francas, similar to the role of Bahasa in Indonesia and Malaysia. A necessity because unlike the homogeneous populations of countries like Thailand, Japan, or Korea, we have around 120 to 180 languages, each with a corresponding ethnic group, with only a few of them being mutually intelligible.
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@lelechim Because I *am* in the Philippines, genius. LOL Seriously, take a wild guess at why I was watching Asian Boss. How did you think I immediately guessed where you were from in the first place?
You think Americans are the only ones with bills and rent to pay, or mortgages, or own small businesses? If people from the countries like the Philippines (a lot of whom literally need to work to eat because there are no such things as unemployment benefits here) can survive a 2-month extremely strict lockdown, why can't you?
It's not even a total lockdown, but here you are Trumptards holding rallies and blocking streets used by medical frontliners because you want to get your hair done. Worse still are the tinfoil hat crowd screaming about 5G and Bill Gates and the Illuminati or whatever steaming pile of bs they're eating these days. Or the Las Vegas mayor who point-blank admitted she volunteered to let her constituents be effing placebo lab rats just to keep her money flowing.
I understand the concerns about mortgages and rents and bills, but guess who's to blame for that? A bit funny how you're not screaming "tyranny" about that really, when it's the only context here where it actually applies. In here, the lockdown was accompanied by bills that froze rent and mortgages. In the US, it's like the federal government doesn't even exist. Measures are so haphazard. No planning, no cooperation, not even simple god**n civic duty. So yeah. 1 million cases. Murica, f**k yeah! Should we be proud of that?
No idea what stats you've been seeing, but as far as I can see NJ's new cases have only begun to decline in the last 5 days. But only by around 20%. Yes that's good news. But no, it doesn't mean you can go party in the beach again.
And yes, shops will need to reopen again. Slowly, with social distancing still in place. But that wasn't your argument was it? You were just screaming "stop taking muh liberties!" like the child you keep accusing me of being.
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@lelechim You called me a child. That's pretty rude. I watch this channel, because I am Asian-American, unless you somehow have another reason why a random Filipino would be so intensely interested in the minutiae of American politics.
I apologize for calling you a Trumptard. But so far, they have been the most vocal about the "muh liberties" schtick, with Trump himself tweeting the "FREE <InsertBlueStateHere>" like the insufferable idiot that he is. So don't blame me if I assumed you were one.
And yes, I know the economy is in big trouble and people are getting worried about finances. That's a world-wide problem. All of us are scrambling to find ways to fix that. But I repeat, acting like the virus doesn't exist isn't even remotely the solution. Nor does protesting against quarantine measures help under the guise of protecting personal freedoms, when they have clearly been effective (NJ is a prime example of that).
The federal government being a limp dishrag is why there's now 1 million Americans sick. Sure, not all states are the same, but the feds could at least designate what states should enforce quarantine, or heck, even ban non-essential interstate travel for a while to contain the spread. You know, do what a federal government is supposed to do. But nope. They're all screaming at each other while Trump is telling everyone to start injecting Lysol and bathing in UV rays.
I repeat, this has nothing to do with politics nor tyranny. This is basic common sense. And the fact that people can't get that makes me angry. Especially since there are a lot of nurses and healthcare workers in the overseas Filipino community. Frontliners who are literally risking their lives for people who want to just go out and get infected willy-nilly.
Ever think of who is going to treat you when you do inevitably get sick by flaunting social distancing? I have a dozen frontliner close friends right now who wish they could stop working, people who haven't seen their families in weeks because they can't. That's why I'm mad. I do wish I had a joint right now. But oh well.
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@hamekochi2331 Does that stop China then? What kind of idiot thinks that China has no access to international waters. Last I checked, international waters, were international waters, which everyone respects EXCEPT China. Chinese fishing vessels certainly reach far and wide with zero problems, and have been caught as far as Argentina, Chile, and New Zealand, fishing illegally. Unless you mean military movement, then you are basically admitting China wants to invade the world.
Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, and the Philippines are all US allies. It doesn't need Taiwan. Furthermore, China, already has access to more international waters through North Korea, Russia, Bangladesh, and Cambodia, all of which are pro-Chinese.
Tell me one real thing that the US gets from its alliance with Taiwan. Because as far as I know, you're the ones relying on US help. The US certainly doesn't stop you from becoming friends with China, as evidenced by the fact that parties favorable to unification HAVE won.
None of us want war. Tell me of a single Asian nation that has provoked China recently. Zero. Now tell me how many times China has provoked other Asian nations. Countless times. We have zero chance of defending against China's brainwashed billions. Hence why we welcome the US.
South Korea wouldn't even exist by now if the Chinese-backed North Koreans weren't stopped. Look at the situation in North Korea now. And you want us to believe China has better intentions that the US? LOL You are not Taiwanese. You're probably Minnan, but not Taiwanese. Your rhetoric stinks of Beijing propaganda.
The Cold War is over. Even Vietnam is now friendly with everyone else in Asia. Only China (and North Korea) doesn't seem to know that it's over. If China wants to be our friend, be our friend. Not threaten us with invasion over an imaginary power struggle with the US who largely don't even care.
We can be friends with the US AND China, the US doesn't care about that, only China does. China thinks we should only be friends with them. No one else. And that is NOT a friendly attitude.
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The Filipino correspondent is full of s**t. I simply HATE how she turned this political and isn't reporting things accurately. Just whining about the inconveniences of the quarantine. We are NOT getting arrested for going out, as long as we don't go out during curfew. We are allowed to go out for groceries or if you're a worker in the essential sectors. The supply chains and deliveries are still active. Only one member of the family can go out to buy groceries at a time. Military and police in checkpoints aren't abusive. And yes, the punishments for curfew violators are harsh. But that's required. Our nurses and doctors are putting their lives on the line, while some people act like nothing is happening.
As for the "riot", they were put down harshly because despite repeated admonishments that they stay inside, they conducted a RALLY, a crowd of people outdoors in Manila which has the highest cases in the country. Does she even understand how utterly idiotic that is? And now SHE wants to go out? She wants public transportation running? Does she want everyone to die?
The rallyists were asking for supplies, which the government gave less than a week later. They couldn't wait, so they violated the rules and put thousands of people they are in contact with in danger. I repeat, the local governments have been handing out food and supplies this past week to lower income and middle income families. ALL of them. So her crying episode is based on a lie as well.
Duterte has been given emergency TEMPORARY powers by multipartisan vote to take over industries as needed, but so far he hasn't exercised any of it. While I dislike Duterte's stances (I am NOT a Duterte supporter), this "reporter" is blowing it out of proportion by once again insinuating that Duterte is a dictator or something. If you listen to her you get this misconception that everything is chaos right now in the Philippines, with the cops and soldiers running around shooting everyone. Which is not the case.
And yes, she should NOT be reporting. AT ALL. Does she even understand what the quarantine is for? I mean even her "poor me" expression is infuriating. There are dozens of other vlogs documenting the quarantine here if you guys are interested in the truth. Not this politically motivated propaganda.
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@joan1609 You're probably not even aware that the legal minimum age of marriage is 16 in the majority of countries, including first world countries. That includes the US, the UK, France, Japan, Austria, Hungary, Norway, Spain, Portugal, Poland, etc. I repeat: teen marriage is not equivalent to child marriage.
So using the 15% statistic for the Philippines is completely lacking in context. The below 18 statistic is irrelevant. The numbers you should be looking at to determine prevalence is 15 and below. And for the Philippines, that number is 2%
The Philippines is actually on the higher end of the marrying age. 18 requires parental consent. To marry someone without need to ask your parents, you need to be 21.
EDIT: This comment keeps getting filtered by Asian Boss. I have no idea what "forbidden" words are in my comment.
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@joan1609 I'm not arguing out of national pride. I'm arguing against the misconceptions, including yours, that child marriage (and teen marriage, if you insist), are happening at an especially high rate in the Philippines. Because they don't.
And sure, let's include teen marriages. 15% is STILL not statistically high when compared to the rest of the world. Including our neighbors. Where's the outrage at Thailand's 23%? Or Indonesia's 16%? Or India's 27%? And 15% is nowhere near the rates of under-18 marriages in South Asia, the Middle East, Africa, and Latin America.
You can't even accept the simple fact that child marriage (including over 15, but under 18) is a problem in a FIlipino MINORITY, but not the Philippines overall, comparatively. And you still insist the video is not misleading.
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@joan1609 "The Philippines and nearby countries are one of a few regions around the globe...."
FEW? Even after everything I said, you're still clinging to your misconceptions? South Asia, Africa, the Middle East, and Latin America comprise the MAJORITY of countries. How are they a "FEW" countries?
All of them have far higher rates of below-18 marriages (at an average of 2x that of the Philippines and ASEAN countries). At the same time, you're also trying to downplay the actual statistic of 2% when it comes to marriages under 15, which is what actually counts.
You're now seriously trying to make it sound like western countries are the majority just so you can continue claiming that the rates in the Philippines and Southeast Asia are unusually high in comparison to the rest of the world. Which is confusing, to say the least.
And for the record, we don't know the rates of marriages below 18 in western countries (same with developed countries in Asia like China, Japan, or South Korea). Not because they don't happen there, but because no data is publicly available. Using the US, Canada, and the UK, as your measure is idiotic when there are no statistics for them in the first place. They could be just as common there, as has been shown in Ukraine (9%), because again, for a lot of these countries the legal minimum age of marriage is SIXTEEN. We simply don't know.
Earlier, you were pretty quick to point out the "1 in 6" (more accurately 15%) statistic (on the assumption that it was unusually high), and the 12th in terms of total number. You're still even arguing that the total number is more important. Total number is irrelevant when you're talking about PREVALENCE. Case in point, Jamaica had a total number of intentional homicides at only 1,287 people in 2018. The US had 16,214 in 2018. Does that mean murder is more common in the US?
No. Because Jamaica has a population of only 2.7 million, while the US has 329.5 million. The US has a homicide rate of 5.0. Jamaica has a homicide rate of 43.9. Murder is eight times more common in Jamaica than the US. That is how you compute prevalence.
All of those nonsensical arguments makes it pretty clear that YOU still believe that the Philippines is suffering from unusually high child marriage rates. And yet you also insist that the video does not imply that. Even if you yourself are actually a perfect example of someone being misled into the wrong conclusions.
Ending the argument with a muting just tells me you're a coward who runs out of a discussion once they realize the facts don't line up to what they think is true.
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@joan1609 Why are you listing countries with no data? 😂Do you not understand what NO DATA AVAILABLE means?
No one knows the prevalence of below-18 marriage in these countries, because they do not publish or collect that information publicly. These countries should not be included in your list:
Lebanon,
USA,
Canada,
UK,
Spain,
France,
Italy,
Portugal,
Andorra,
Armenia,
Australia,
Bulgaria,
Austria,
China,
Greece,
The Netherlands,
Norway,
Sweden.
Of the ones with data, these countries fall within a 5% difference. So on average, it still occurs at around the same rate as the Philippines.
Vietnam: 11%
Mongolia: 12%
Sri Lanka: 12%
Tajikistan: 12%
Kyrgyzstan: 13%
Azerbaijan: 11%
Georgia: 14%
Moldova: 12%
Jordan: 10%
Albania: 12%
Morocco: 14%
Samoa: 11%
Of the ones with data, these are the countries with real low incidences, though still non-zero:
Ukraine: 9%
Belarus: 5%
Bosnia: 4%
Macedonia: 7%
Algeria: 3%
Tunisia: 2%
South Africa: 4%
Namibia: 7%
Trinidad and Tobago: 3%
Jamaica: 8%
Qatar: 4%
The mistake on your list:
Comoros: 32%
It's hilarious to me, how after claiming the video has no misleading implications, you're still here, DEFENDING the fact that you've been misled by the video.
Next time you post "facts", make sure they're factual. Not a desperate attempt at justifying a wrong position you've dug yourself in.
There are 195 countries in the world. 90% of 195 = 175. Of your list, only 23 countries (with data) have a lower prevalence of below-18 child marriages than the Philippines. 195 - 23 = 172.
Which means I was roughly on the mark in saying earlier that we are not in the top 90%. Math is great, isn't it? Because it's factual.
The only thing you are right about is the ranking in terms of TOTAL number of cases. Which again is irrelevant. Which is the reason why the Girls Not Brides Atlas only colors the Philippines as Light Green not Dark Green. Because they, unlike you, know what per capita means.
But then again, you only care about being right. Not actual facts. I'm sure your next reply will argue that 23 countries are still "many", and how that still means you are technically right.🤣
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@joan1609 So now you're pretending you made your list based on data from" other websites" you individually researched beforehand (in less than an hour)? LMFAO.
But sure. That's Canada down. So now you have 24 countries. Yay. Still not in the "middle third of that list" (your exact words), is it? And the truly hilarious thing is how you actually DID argue that 20 is technically "many". LMAO
So we're within, what, the top 85%? LOL Oh noes. How terrible. /sarcasm
Your Lebanon data does not apply. It only surveyed women between the ages of 20 to 24. And it's a survey, an estimation that is inherently inaccurate, not census data like the data used in Girls Not Brides.
How hard is it to admit that you were misled BY THE VIDEO into thinking that child marriage prevalence is unusually high in the Philippines?
The point of my argument is to show you that you made the wrong assumption about child marriage prevalence in the Philippines based on the unspoken implication in the video, which is what you are defending.
The reality is that while child marriage IS a problem in the Philippines, it's not at significantly high levels in comparison to everywhere else in the world.
Because the video does NOT mention that the problem is actually mostly restricted to the Muslim Autonomous Regions.
How many times must I tell you that I'm not arguing with you out of a weird sense of nationalism? I'll be the first to tell you about all the crappy things we have in the Philippines. From wealth inequality to political dynasties to pollution in cities. But child marriage is not one of our major problems. It detracts attention from the real hotspots of arranged/child marriage, where it is ingrained in the cultural fabric.
By neglecting to fully inform the viewers about the FULL CONTEXT of the ban, the real national legal age of marriage (18 to 21), and the almost exclusive regionality of child marriage in the Philippines, the video has (probably inadvertently) become sensationalistic and misleading.
YOU are the proof of that. As are multiple other comments on this video who were misled into thinking that the legal age of marriage in the Philippines was NOT 18 before the ban, or thinking that child marriage was rampant in the Philippines.
Seriously, how much longer will you try to die on that hill?
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@joan1609 Middle third WITHIN an incomplete list YOU posted.
*facepalm* I literally picked those countries at random. I clearly said they were examples.
"...was trying to discredit Lebanon's data..."
Cool. So I was wrong. Now you have Lebanon then. What's that now? 25 countries? But then again, by the same argument, we also get data on Palestine and Syria. Both of which have higher rates. So it cancels out, doesn't it?
Out of the total 106 countries which UNICEF has data on, that is still in the lower 25%. Which means you can't use "high" as a descriptor.
"when the only claims made were that the rate was higher than "many countries" around the world."
A tree two inches taller than 3 other trees is a tree that is "higher than many other trees."
Do you even realize how idiotic it is that we've been arguing all day about global rates all so you can cop out with a feeble explanation about how you only meant "many" all along.
Here's some fun facts for you directly from UNICEF data (the same data Girls Not Brides uses) as of 2018:
The global average of child marriage rates is 21%. The Philippines is lower than that.
The regional average of child marriage rates in East Asia and the Pacific is 7% which means East Asia (including ASEAN) actually has the lowest regional rates in the world (where data is available). And it has been that way historically.
ALL other regions covered by UNICEF are higher:
South Asia: 30%
West and Central Africa: 41%
Eastern and Southern Africa: 35%
Middle East and North Africa: 17%
Latin America and the Caribbean: 25%
Eastern Europe and Central Asia: 11%
(Again North America, Western Europe, China, Japan, South Korea, Australia, and New Zealand, etc. do not have data available and thus not included)
So already, your earlier claim: "The Philippines and nearby countries are one of a few regions around the globe that have relatively high rates of child marriages "
... is clearly false.
But will you admit that? Nope.
_"used to be protected by the code of Muslim personal law" protected from what? The marriage laws that everyone else is not protected from. _
And yet they never identified what that code is. Nowhere in the video is it made clear that the Family Code that everyone else follows requires that the minimum age for marriage to be 18 (with parent's consent) or 21 (without). Are the viewers supposed to be mind readers?
The sheer number of comments here already making that wrong assumption is proof enough that the video misled by implication. Regardless of whatever you say.
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@sewoonsmom6959 Ethnolinguistic families are the closest thing to a "race" in modern science. Austronesians aside from having a language with the same origin, also have common genetic ancestry, the same original agriculture (rice, coconuts, chickens, water buffalo), the same original culture (we built houses on stilts along marshes to keep rats away), and the same homeland (our ancestors come from Taiwan, and coastal eastern China, from the Pearl river to the lower Yangtze river).
We are only very distantly related to the Han Chinese. They have different language roots, different genetics, different original agriculture (millet, duck, soybean, wheat), the same original culture (they built houses half-buried in the ground), and different homelands (they originate from the far north along the Yellow and Wei Rivers)
The closest related ethnolinguistic group to Austronesians are the Kra-Dai (the Thais) which may actually be an Austronesian subgroup that became influenced by Chinese and Mon-Khmer, after the Han Chinese invaded southern China.
We haven't been related to the Chinese since at most 35,000 years ago, when the Asian migration branch (haplogroup O-M175) split into the northern Asians (haplogroup O1) and the southern Asians (haplogroup O2).
The Han Chinese originally belonged to O1.
We belong to O2 (O-M122), along with other Maritime Southeast Asian groups, as well as Polynesians, Melanesians, Micronesians, and the people of Madagascar. The only reason why some Chinese still harbor O2 lineages is because southern China was once Southeast Asian territory, before it was invaded by the Han Dynasty approximately 2,000 years ago.
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@sewoonsmom6959 The point I'm making is that people constantly identify themselves as something else, as if that's the only way they can acquire culture. We are not Chinese. We are not Indian. We are not Malays. We are Filipinos, with Austronesian roots, but with a culture that mixes Austronesian, Spanish, Chinese, American, and a little bit of Indian, REGARDLESS of descent.
That is what we are. Which is why trying to change the name doesn't actually change the culture. We HAVE our own culture. It's a mixture, sure, but so is every other culture. It's high past time people recognize that. Instead of constantly saying we are culture-less because we have so much foreign influence.
Latin America and the Marianas Islands are heavily Hispanicized too. No one tells them they have "colonial mentality". Goa in India is also heavily influenced by Portugal. Instead of reviling their past. They embrace it. Preserving their culture and beautiful colonial architecture (including houses with capiz shell panes imported from the Philippines). Because that is who they are.
Replacing Spanish with Chinese influence is still foreign influence, and it is not us.
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No, but you do. "...erroneous pronounciations, poor grammar, broken sentence structure, and a lack of vocabulary", while they do all result in bad English, none of them make anyone "incomprehensible". If she had talked to you in Tagalog, I'd have understood your frustrations. But she didn't.
If I had cultural inferiority complex, I'd have told you our English is the best, numbah one!!!1! and you're just a hater. I didn't. I'm laughing at you whining over a menial laborer coming from a non-native English-speaking country not speaking perfect English.
Yes it's shocking, but it's true. People poor enough to agree to cleaning your toilets might not have learned to speak the way you do. Even if the country teaches English in schools. 😂
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@sumayyahadetunmbi4347 You don't need shariah to execute murderers. LOL
It's super weird how none of you seem to admit that the main function of shariah is not to punish murderers or rapists. Regular laws are perfectly fine for doing that.
Instead, shariah is used to punish innocent people for blameless crimes.
Adultery is considered a bad thing in other countries too, but not bad enough to murder people for it. Theft is similarly bad, but not bad enough to maim someone for life for it. Premarital sex, homosexuality, blasphemy, leaving a religion, or not dressing like a cocoon are not crimes at all.
And LOL. You just told me that Islam does not teach violence or hatred then threatened us with violence. You forget, approximately 77% of thepeople in the world are not Muslims. Every single terrorist attack, every single extremist violence or atrocity, turns the world's opinions against you. We already know what happened to the Rohingya and the Uyghurs. If you want the entire world to start treating you like that, by all means, continue with your brutal traditions.
Every time someone hears "Muslim" today, people already immediately associate it with terrorism, beheadings, mistreatment of women and LGBT people, and despotic theocratic regimes. And that's not our fault. It's yours. Your actions defined you for us.
I do not hate Islam or Muslims. But every day, I'm slowly convinced that Muslims can not coexist. Aceh, Brunei, the Taliban, ISIS, Al Qaeda, Boko Haram, Saudi and the Gulf States, Pakistan and Bangladeshi honor killings, the thousands of Islamic terrorist attacks each year and the dozens of Islamic terrorists groups in various countries. This is what you have shown us about what Islam is.
If you want to convince us you are not like that, show us in actions, not empty words.
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@sumayyahadetunmbi4347 Last year, 18,000 people died because of terrorism, almost all of which were Islamist. Where did you get the idea that terrorist attacks are rare? If anything, the media only reports terrorist attacks that hit western countries, with little coverage of when they don't even though they happen extremely frequently.
Remember when ISIS allied groups invaded a city in the Philippines 4 years ago? You don't. Because it wasn't reported internationally. The city was Marawi, a 99% Muslim regional capital of one of the major Muslim groups in the Philippines. It was destroyed in the fighting. Around a hundred civilians died, brutally executed when they were discovered to be Christians when they couldn't recite the Shahada. Including pregnant women and young girls. And nearly 1 million people became refugees. Many Muslim families protected their Christian employees by hiding them or disguising them as Muslims. But that doesn't change the fact that the reason behind the deaths in the first place was Islamic fundamentalism. Specifically the terrorists wanted to implement Saudi-style shariah, because the founders of the group were scholars in Saudi schools.
Same with the attacks in Nigeria. We don't hear about that either because it is not reported. And you somehow doubt that thousands of attacks happen each year? You make excuses that they are killing Muslims but don't seem to mention why. They are killing people because they believe it is what shariah tells them to do. Most of the attacks by ISIS even, are against the Shiites. While non-Muslims consider both of you Sunnis and Shiites Muslims. Sunnis don't consider Shiites Muslims, and vice versa. Hence the attacks.
Saying stoning people to death is okay, because you need four witnesses is a laughable excuse. You are still killing people for a "sin" that ALL other cultures merely consider a shameful act. Not an act that justifies a horrifyingly painful death.
Because the reality is before the 1925 stoning for zina was extremely rare in Islam. Only one instance of it was recorded in historical times. The Quran also does NOT say adulterers should be stoned, the Quranic punishment was 100 lashes. They weren't put to death.
Even Jews and Christians stopped stoning a long time ago, when they realized capital punishment was something only God should be the judge of, not fallible people, and that it did NOT work as a deterrent.
So what happened in 1925? After the King of Hejaz refused to recognize the Treaty of Versailles, the British Empire supported the Sauds in their invasion of Hejaz, and the holy cities of Mecca and Medina.
And the Sauds had one important thing about them that changed Islam forever, an ultra-fundamentalist cleric named al-Wahhab.
Wahhab changed Islam. Turning it into an angry violent religion that it is today. After they controlled Mecca and Medina, it spread to other Muslim countries like wildfire. And is still spreading today. After Wahhabism became the main Muslim variant, stonings became very common.
Instead of 100 lashes, Wahhabis instead followed the hadiths. And it became a death sentence. A painful death sentence. And here you both are, trying to defend something that doesn't even exist in the Quran.
And you know the most hilarious thing about it? The punishment of stoning was lifted from the Torah (the Old Testament), according to the hadiths. From the Jews. The Jews who actually stopped practicing it centuries before Mohammad was born because it was too barbaric and cruel and very easy to abuse by fallible humans.
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@yellowbeez93 In other words: "Trust me, this is totally what Muhammad said and did. So you should do it too or die."
LOL. Whether you admit it or not, a large part of the Sunnahs are hearsay. Not verifiable by evidence, contradictory, and with no documentation.
Proof of that is simple enough. The Sunnahs of Sunnis and Shias are not identical. Even within sects of Islam, different hadiths are believed to be true.
THAT is human fallibility. And you are killing and torturing people because of human fallibility.
Even if you believe Muhammad is infallible because he was a prophet, the people who wrote about him were mere humans. With their own biases, their own agendas, and their own mistakes.
Moreover, instead of actually accepting the messages of peace, mercy, kindness, humility, loyalty, brotherhood, and forgiveness that is common in all Abrahamic religions, you instead strive to become clones of Muhammad. Not God. Muhammad. Which is why all of you are slowly becoming Arabs, and why all of you are still constantly reliving the wars between Mecca and Medina. The slaughters and genocides of various tribes in the early years of Islam.
Until that changes, Islam will always be stained in blood. You worship Muhammad more than you worship God. Or at least the rumors about Muhammad which you have turned into a bloodthirsty unbending religious law that is now wreaking havoc throughout the world. Perfect tools for the tyrants that have since ruled the Muslim regions.
I repeat my earlier assessment: you can not coexist. Any other religion, any other variant belief, that exists alongside you will sooner or later become a target.
Do not ask me to accept you, when you can not even accept us, the rest of humanity.
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@yellowbeez93
1) Explain to me why sunnahs are different among different Muslim sects. Why certain hadiths contradict what is written in the Quran. Including all the things I mentioned: the punishment by stoning to death for adultery, the burqa requirement, and the punishment by death for apostasy, the honor killings of family members of women who have "dishonored Islam", and so on. All of these are in the shariah, but are contradicted by the Quran.
2) So are humans infallible then? Is everything written about Muhammad true? Are you saying everything they say is from God. And are you saying you actually KNOW how God's mind works? If I told you that according to my great great grandfather, Muhammad once said
"Lo and behold, do not eat cake. It is sinful and will make you fat. Whosoever eats cake will be put to death by boiling."
- 1:1 My Grandfather, peace be upon him
Will you start boiling people?
3) I repeat my earlier question. Is it mercy when you cut off someone's head? Is it mercy when you cut off someone's hand? Is it mercy when you throw stones at people buried in the ground until they die? Is it mercy when you whip someone in public? Is it mercy when crucify people? Is it mercy when you burn people alive? Is it mercy when you hang people or throw them off buildings?
Fix that contradiction and I will believe you. By supporting shariah, you are contradicting the very same verses that you are now quoting.
Nothing in the shariah is merciful. Nor kind, charitable, or forgiving. It's all blood and tears.
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@yellowbeez93 1) Riiight. So Shias do not exist. They are obviously not Muslims. Neither are the Ahmadiyyas, the Awalites, the Ismailists, the Druze, the Sufi, the Ibadi, and so on. You already exterminated the Kharijites for daring to secede. I love how you try to deny reality.
Who decides which hadiths are truer than the others? Hm?
2) "No human being or living creature knows how God's mind works" <- and yet you presume to carry out God's punishment for him. As if you were personally appointed by God himself to be his judges and his executioners.
Your slapping argument is doubly hilarious because your rationale is that it is not a crime, because the person slapped is not dead. Yet you are supporting religious laws that LITERALLY KILL PEOPLE. Even funnier is how you explicitly say "harming another Muslim", which makes sense why so many Muslims think it's perfectly okay to kill infidels.
3) Stone a woman to death for adultery. Is she going to be a good wife from now on, like in your student example? No. Because she's dead.
I'm laughing at your examples at how they always seem to be everyday mild punishments. No. In reality, it would be more like a teacher beheading his student for sleeping in class in order to teach other students not to sleep in class.
THAT is how your story should go. Because that is shariah in a nutshell. Insanely cruel and nonsensical.
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@jenro3626 So instead na manglimos, luluhod ka na lang at gumapang sa harap nang isang country na tahas-tahasan nang sinasakop ang karagatan mo?
May masama ba sa manghingi ng tulong nang isang ALLY dahil sila lang ang may kayang mapressure sa ibang superpower?
Puro kayo excuses. Binenta na tayo ni Digong. Nganga pa rin kayo.
Kung may nagawa syang iba, okay lang sana, pero wala. Puro away bata, puro posing posing, puro pangako. Mas obsessed pa kayo sa rappler, kay leni, kay pacquiao, kay de lima, sa red cross, sa pope, sa IHC, at kung sino man ang nagcricriticize sa napaka-sensitive na pangulo ninyo na parang dalagitang nahihimatay pag may nagchismis sa kanya. Kahit community pantry, naging anti-duterte na kuno. Kaloka.
PROBLEMA NG BAYAN na-balewala na.
Ginawa nyong circus ang gobyerno. Wala ng focus. Puro na lang bangayan DDS vs Dilawan. Pareho lang kayong mga gago.
Dinedefend pa nya ngayon ang chekwang bestfriend nya na klarong binodol tayo. Tapos okay lang sa inyo, kasi di na kayo nag-iisip. Group think na. Partido forever, kahit partido ninyo ginagago na kayo.
Balik ka na sa facebook, doon kayo magbangayan sa rappler.
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@M0ebius LOL. Weird how you cut it off to the "last decade" when China has owned their leaders for far longer than that. And what's special about their GDP growth? The Philippines and Vietnam has around the same GDP growth rates (~6 to 7%) since after the Asian Financial Crisis, with GDPs that are 17 and 12 times bigger respectively, and a per capita GDP of ~3x and ~2x respectively. We're "poor" but we're still far richer (and most importantly, happier and freer) than China's vassals, so you can stop selling your Chinese snake oil now.
You think China gives AF too? China was sending weapons and smiling for the camera with Pol Pot when the Khmer Rouge genocide wiped out 1/4th of Cambodia's population, and they're the only reason the Kim Dynasty in North Korea still exists.
And yes, our leaders are corrupt grade-A idiots, but how exactly is China going to help change that? LOL And stop acting like it's the same thing on both sides, the US is not exactly threatening us with war and claiming our lands and seas like China is, are they? As I said, colonialism ended more than 100 years ago. Just because we don't bow to Beijing, does not make us colonies of the west. That narrative is purely Beijing's. And funnily enough, it's the same narrative that Imperial Japan used to justify their invasion of Asia.
Speaking of which, it's hilarious how you call me "ignorant" and then say idiotic things like "China fought against Axis". Haha. Which China? You do realize that China in WW2 is basically Taiwan now, right? It was Taiwan (i.e. the Kuomintang) who fought Japan, in the same way that it was Taiwan who was the rightful founding member of the UN. It's the same ignorance as your earlier conflation of the Qing Dynasty Chinese refugees and settlers to colonial ASEAN with the modern CCP Chinese.
Mao was happy enough to let Japan weaken the Kuomintang while putting up a show of "resistance" as he builds up his forces. And then as soon as WW2 was over, he pounced on the weakened Republic of China. Then when the dust had settled, it was easy for the CCP invent stories about the their "glorious resistance" to Japan where the Red Army killed gajillions of Japanese and captured bajillions more with Mao personally leading every charge. And of course people like you believe them. The fact remains: the CCP literally owes their control of the mainland to the Japanese invasion.
And what world domination, he asks, even as China is starting moving in on ASEAN, India, and Japan. Haha. China's "Belt and Road" = Imperial Japan's "Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere." We've seen it all before, so enough with the "China is all about peace and rainbows" bullsh1+.
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No they don't. Some individual words sound Visayan like "hukum" or "buka", but the sounds and intonation are totally different. Too much "j", "ch", and "u" sounds; the vowels sound pinched, almost swallowed, unlike Philippine vowels which are more open; too much consonant clusters like "tr", "rk", "kr", or "rb" which makes it sound Indian; and the stress is different. They sound a little bit like the Muslim Filipinos (though only in pronunciation, not in grammar), but not Visayans.
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@yyj271 China tried to protect Pol Pot's regime, and you think that's a good thing? Are you also going to praise China for protecting the Kims of North Korea? LOL
And good you mentioned the Sino-Japanese War even if it's completely irrelevant. You know World War 2 happened because of Japan's aggression right? You think only China were victims of Imperial Japan? What about the millions of other people who died in Taiwan, in the Philippines, in Korea, etc.?
And right now, China is doing exactly what Imperial Japan did. Invading territory, building armies, threatening war, proclaiming superiority, etc. using the excuse of an imaginary "colonial imperialist" enemy. Invading Asia for the creation of a new glorious "Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere"... oops I meant "Belt and Road". LOL
In fact, who was it who defeated the Japanese again? Was it Mao and the CCP? Nope. It was the Allies. Within China, it was the KMT (i.e. Taiwan) who bled and fought against Japan. Mao mostly did nothing except accumulate strength and quickly take advantage of postwar chaos to gain power.
It's weird how you claim to be "SE Asian" and not even know basic SE Asian history. Instead you repeat Beijing's propaganda word for word. Including the "what about" BS. I know TRUE SE Asians of Chinese descent, and they don't talk about China like you, mainlander.
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@Joeiscoll Or Google, Facebook, Instagram, Pinterest, Flickr, Wordpress, Yahoo, Messenger, Twitch, Soundcloud, Vevo, BBC, NY Times, Wikipedia, Quora... lol.
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@ge7sur3nka34 Yes. It's frustrating how so few people realize that the people of Island Southeast Asia, (Aboriginal) Taiwan, Micronesia, Polynesia, Island Melanesia, and Madagascar are all descendants of the same seafaring people - the Austronesians, that's why we have shared vocabulary, shared culture, shared boat designs, shared genetics, etc.
The people here sharing vocabulary comparisons between Bahasa and Filipino languages don't even know that the similarities extend BEYOND Southeast Asia.
To take the first comparison by @Fry pan in this thread.
The word for five:
Amis (Taiwan) - Lima
Ilocano (Filipino) - Ima/Lima
Tagalog (Filipino) - Lima
Cebuano (Filipino) - Lima
Chamorro (Guam) - Lima
Bahasa (Malay) - Lima
Minangkabau (Indonesia) - Limo
Madurese (Indonesia) - Lema
Balinese (Indonesia) - Lima
Javanese (Indonesia) - Lima
Vanuatuan - Lima
Tuvaluan - Lima
Fijian - Lima
Samoan - Lima
Tongan - Nima
Hawaiian - Lima
Marquesan - 'ima
Tahitian - Rima
Maori (New Zealand) - Rima
Malagasy (Madagascar) - Dimy
The word for wind:
Ilocano (Filipino) - Angin
Tagalog (Filipino) - Hangin
Cebuano (Filipino) - Hangin
Marshallese (Micronesian) - Ang
Pohnpeian (Micronesian) - Ahng
Tsat (Hainan) - Ngin
Bahasa (Malay) - Angin
Madurese (Indonesia) - Angen
Sundanese (Indonesia) - Angin
Makassarese (Indonesia) - Anging
Balinese (Indonesia) - Angin
Javanese (Indonesia) - Angin
Tuvaluan - Angi
Fijian - Thangi (spelled "Cagi" in Fijian alphabet)
Samoan - Angi
Tongan - Angi
Hawaiian - Ani
Maori (New Zealand) - Angina
Malagasy (Madagascar) - Anina
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@jaggin7561 "Poverty line" is subjective. It varies by country because different countries have different costs of living. But yes. Around 20% of Filipinos are considered poor by the World Bank. Though again, that does not automatically mean starving or homeless. It just means they earn less than $1.90 a day (which is actually quite a lot by Philippine standards, basic goods here are VERY cheap). And that's only for money. You can live off the land here quite easily if you live in the rural areas. So the financial poverty line is not really a very good measurement of living standards.
The homeless are not really common throughout the Philippines as well. I've only really encountered them in Manila because that's where the vast majority of the urban poor live. Unlike the rural poor, they can't build huts in the fields, nor can they gather food from their surroundings. Which is why you hear these horror stories of slum-dwellers in Manila eating leftover food from fastfood chains. There are a few beggars in cities outside of Manila (mostly the physically or mentally disabled and indigents), but they usually have homes.
An exception are some of the more impoverished members of the Bajau people, a lot of them earn a living by begging. Though they are technically "homeless" since they do not have houses on land, they live on houseboats or build houses on stilts directly on the sea. They are mostly refugees fleeing the conflicts in the Muslim areas in southwestern Mindanao (in the islands between the Philippines and Malaysia), and thus haven't integrated fully into communities yet.
I am not sure what the local governments in Manila are doing for the homeless, aside from what everybody else gets (food, cash assistance). But I do know private organizations in Manila have temporarily created shelters for them. Like the De La Salle University and some private businesses.
P.S. Note that when I say "Manila", I'm referring to Metro Manila. The vast urban sprawl in the center of Luzon Island composed of 16 cities. Each of the cities have different ordinances relating to the lockdown. Some mayors are more active, others less so. I am from the provinces, so I do not know exactly what measures they have there. The national guidelines for the quarantine are the same throughout the country, however.
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@chrisabrenica6267 No, they really didn't. You should look up "Leyes Nuevas" (the "New Laws"). Slavery of native people was banned in the Spanish Empire since the 1540s (after , which was before Miguel Lopez de Legazpi started conquering the islands (1565).
The Spanish "enslaving Filipinos" is a common misconception. Brought largely about by later American anti-Spanish propaganda in school textbooks, as well as of course, hyperbole from nationalism after the revolution against Spain. While the Spanish did abuse natives through the encomienda system, this was always seen as a form of local government corruption, not empire-wide policy. It was literally illegal to enslave any of the natives. In fact, the Spanish cracked down on the pre-Hispanic alipin (serf) system and the seasonal raids (magayaw) which fueled it.
Not to mention, the majority of the officials in the Spanish colonial government (the gobernadorcillos, cabezas de baranggay, the guardia civil, etc.) were natives - the Principalia - the direct descendants of pre-Hispanic noble classes. The family of Jose Rizal was one of them. The Spanish Empire was weird among colonial powers in that it was not racially segregated. Interracial marriages was common and actively encouraged.
The Spanish were also not part of the slave trade, because they were enemies with the countries who did (notoriously the Dutch, Portuguese, and British). In fact, a large part of what the Spanish military did was protect coastal settlements from Tausug and Maguindanao slave-raids, hence why there are so many ruins of forts and towers near coastal cities. The raiders sold the captured Christian Filipinos into slave markets in Makassar and Batavia (modern Jakarta) in Indonesia (which still has traces of their existence - the Mardijkers). Some of them would be ransomed by the Spanish, most would be bought by the Dutch or Portuguese for plantation workers, or by the Chinese for household slaves. The raids got so bad (estimated to involve around 300,000 people captured, mostly Visayans, at its height from 1770 to 1870) that the Spanish embassy actually filed a complaint to the Dutch Empire in 1762, demanding that they stop buying captured Filipino slaves.
While buying black slaves continued in the Caribbean in low numbers, elsewhere in the Spanish colonies, it was mostly nonexistent. In fact, Spanish slavery in the Caribbean only picked up after the British captured Havana in the 1760s. They were the ones who imported the slaves in the Spanish Caribbean. Because of the sheer profitability of sugarcane plantations, local governors there continued the practice. Which is the reason why the Caribbean has a large black population in contrast to other colonies of Spain.
The Spanish called the Aetas, "cafre" due to their resemblance to the black slaves of the Arabs, whom the Arabs had called "kaff1rs" (non-believers). They were not named after the slaves that the Spanish owned. Specifically the Arabs from Iberia and Northern Africa, which was under Moor control prior to the Reconquista (and the reason why Spanish has a lot of words originating from Arabic). Incidentally, the Dutch tradition of Zwarte Piet is also based on former Moorish slaves. Furthermore, during the colonial era, the Indian Ocean Arab slave trade was controlled by the Sultanate of Zanzibar in coastal East Africa. Spain did not participate in that since Zanzibar was British ally, and the Spanish and British Empires hated each others guts.
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@chrisabrenica6267 I already did discuss repartimiento. Polo y servicio is not slavery. No matter how slave-like it could be in some cases because of abuses. It's literally just compulsory community service, a levy system similar to taxes. Except it was instead used to build public works. Most such projects were everyday community work like maintaining roads, repairing buildings, building bridges, and so on. Obviously, building ships were the exceptions, not the rule.
It was done in service to the community and the government. Not private individuals. It was temporary service, with a maximum of 40 days a year, and only recruited men between the ages of 16 and 60. You can exempt yourself from this if you pay the fines. And you can do whatever you want after your work is done for the day. No one was whipped or anything. Most importantly, the workers were paid (a measly sum of 2 pesetas, but still). By 1884, polo service was reduced even lower to 15 days, probably as a response to growing unrest. It was quite oppressive, since it disrupted the livelihoods of people, but it was still not slavery.
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@chrisabrenica6267 Again. You keep trying to gloss over one thing: the slaves in Mexico that Seijas wrote about were all from Filipinos enslaved by other Filipinos. The hereditary alipin system was a widespread form of slavery that existed before the Spanish arrived. The 25% of precolonial Manila that you talk about were alipin sa gigilid, and the city literally relied on their labor for things like farms and whatnot. Hence why it took a while for the Leyes Nuevas to take effect, since the Spanish colonial government were leery of both the economic and social unrest that would happen if they abruptly freed the preexisting alipin.
It continued in areas the Spanish didn't control. 50% or more of the population in the cities in the Sulu and Maguindanao were slaves up until the late 1800s. Even the word "bisaya" in Tausug today still means "slave". So claiming that they wouldn't have been enslaved if not for Spain is literally false. Islamic (and Chinese) chattel slavery was already changing the definition of the alipin long before the Spanish arrived. How are you blaming Spain for this, when it was Spanish laws that freed them?
"Some Spaniards of good conscience have freed the slaves who are native of those islands, but many more keep them in their homes . . . I order you to liberate all Indians owned by Spaniards". - Letter from King Felipe II to Governor Gomez Perez das Mariñas, 1589 (das Mariñas was later assassinated by Chinese slave rowers while on a ship to the Moluccas, whom ironically were unchained because of das Mariñas' insistence that they be treated well and allowed to carry weapons)
As for Polo, yes. Again. Illegal abuses. I never denied that. But it's not exactly what the Crown originally planned for it, is it? You keep equating the abuses of local conquistadores with Empire policy. As you yourself admitted, they were all doing this in clear violation of Spanish laws.
They were MY ancestors too. And you, as well, don't have the right to whitewash their sins and blame it on the Spaniards. Blaming everything on the colonizers is lazy, irresponsible, and factually untrue. It permits the attitude today where Filipinos try to justify the failures of the post-independence government by just claiming that it was the fault of the colonizers. Bad economy? It was the Spanish! Corruption? It was the Spanish! High poverty rates? It was colonialism! When will we stop and take responsibility for our own actions, and acknowledge that our own history was not and never has been black and white?
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Margarita Moran - Winner, Miss Universe 1973
Gloria Diaz - Winner, Miss Universe 1969
Kylie Versoza - Winner, Miss World 2016
Bea Santiago - Winner, Miss World 2013
Lara Quigaman - Winner, Miss World 2005
Melanie Marquez - Winner, Miss International 1979
Aurora Pijuan - Winner, Miss International 1970
Gemma Cruz - Winner, Miss International 1964
And here are pure Filipinas who placed within top 5:
Miss U:
Ariella Ada - 3rd 2013
Janine Tugonon - 1st 2012
Shamcey Supsup - 3rd 2011
Miriam Quiambao - 1st 1999
Desiree Verdadero - 3rd 1984
Chat Silayan - 3rd 1980
Chiqui Brosas - 4th 1975
Miss World:
Karla Bautista - top 5 2004
Mafae Yunon - top 5 2003
Ruffa Guttierez - 2nd 1993
Evangeline Pascual - 1st 1973
Cecilia Amabuyok - 4th 1968
Miss International:
Ahtisa Manalo: 1st 2018
Elena Ojeda - 4th 1973
Yolanda Dominguez - 2nd 1972
Evelyn Camus - 2nd 1971
Want more? I haven't included the top 10s, or top 15s, or the Miss Earth winners.
So yeah.... what were you saying again? LOL
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@Water Melon Funny. Which other countries in east and southeast Asia are invading each other?
If you hate the US so much, why not invade them? Last I checked, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Tibet, India, etc. are not part of the United States.
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@bj2690 Is that what your government tells you? LOL. The same government that forces you to use a VPN to even watch this video because they don't want you to see the reality of the outside world? Tell me one country which trusts and likes China. A country which truly calls you a friend. Just one.
We tolerate you, because we need your business and each of us individually can never hope to defeat a massive superpower in a war. But if you get attacked, not a single Asian country will defend you.
It's actually quite funny how you keep getting angry at all the other Asian nations for liking the US more than you. When you have only yourself to blame for that. Not once have you lent a helping hand without asking for something in return. All of your "diplomatic" dealings have been territorial disputes or military threats. Sri Lanka already made a mistake of borrowing from you, and they lost sovereign territory for that. Your fishermen constantly enter our EEZs and destroy the livelihoods of our poor fishermen by harvesting everything with industrial-scale fishing boats. Your poachers hunt all our endangered animals and plants to fuel your immortality pills and your pangolin dimsum. You keep selling us fake goods, some of them dangerous. You lie, you cheat, you steal.
So yeah. Nothing you have done has taught us to trust you. Nor even like you. And you blame us for asking the US for help against you? LOL. It's quite sad, really. If you had been kinder, less militaristic, more open, more honest, you'd have been leading Asia now. Instead you're an outsider, banging on our doors and telling us we're supposed to kneel at your feet and love you more than America while pointing a gun at our heads.
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@user-jo5dl9le6b Nope. Pretty sure it applies to ALL alcohol. LOL. Go read the law. The bill has not passed yet, so you can still buy alcohol now. The Balinese are not tourists. Neither are the Christian Batak, the Aceh Singkil, the Dayak, the Rotanese, the Sumbanese, the Minahasans, the Sangirese, the Torajans, the Chinese Indonesians, the West Papuans, and so on. Claiming that it will be okay because tourist areas will be exceptions is b0olshiy3t.
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@rtc5573 Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Philippines, Vietnam, India... funny how they're all your neighbors, isn't it? In fact, funny how you don't actually have any friends, isn't it? "Engaging" with other countries, like how you "engaged" Sri Lanka and took their sovereign territory in return. Or how you "engaged" North Korea into a puppet nightmare state. Or how you "engaged" Cambodia's Pol Pot into smashing babies against trees.
I'm Southeast Asian. I don't need western news to tell me what you're doing. Maybe stop listening to Beijing and actually listen to your fellow Asians, then you'll understand why no one likes you.
You talk of unity yet call us "lapdogs" and badmouth the west as if they were your mortal enemies who must be defeated so you can reign supreme. Maybe listen to yourself first.
All of us other Asians are pretty united. We deal with each other peacefully, diplomatically, and have never actually fought wars with each other in modern times. Except China and her pet tyrants.
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@sunen7129
1) Sigh. So I have to explain it again? When Japan was booming, So was China (especially Hong Kong), South Korea, and Taiwan. Yet Filipinas married far less of them than Japanese men. That does not fit your narrative of Filipina women seeking "superior" men. Again, the intermarriages have more to do with the fact that there are MORE Filipinas in these very specific countries AND more REPRESENTATION of these specific nationalities as romantic ideals in popular media, than anything to do with economic superiority.
2) How many times do I need to explain it. When Filipinas marry Latinos, Black Americans, or Asian-Americans, that does not fit your narrative of it being about perceptions of racial superiority.
3) See 1 and 2
4) Saying East Asian men prefer East Asian women when it comes to foreign intermarriage is nonsense. Vietnamese women aren't East Asian. And they are the largest number of foreign brides in South Korea by far. In rural China, that is even less true, with most of the ACTUAL foreign mail order brides, again (I've mentioned this three times already) coming from impoverished border regions in Vietnam, Laos, Myanmar, and Cambodia.
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No you can't. Unlike China and North Korea, almost all Asian countries are fully open to outside influence. You can not control the inflow of new concepts and things. There is almost no instance where "nobody knows a concept or object" in modern free countries. As soon as a new thing is invented, virtually everyone hears of it through the news, the internet, TV, hearsay, etc. Very quickly after the term "smartphone" was coined in English, for example, Japan already coined the equivalent sumātofon. No one created it officially, it's just how people said it.
Again, Italy didn't invent new words, you just translated them or changed their pronunciation to be more Italian, which is exactly what Japan did. For example, Italian televisione isn't a new word, neither is it Italian. It's an "Italianized" English word created by Italian speakers themselves when they first attempted to say the word. It's exactly the same in Japanese where "television" is terebi.
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@Sa-so5ew Afghanistan does not have oil. Neither does the Southern Philippines, Southern Thailand, Chechnya, Albania, northern India, or Sri Lanka and so on.
Wahhabism turned Islam into the violent fundamentalist version that it is today. But you're a fool if you think it was only the Saudi's fault. They started it, but you all embraced it. You just called it "Salafism".
In Southeast Asia for example, Muslims weren't historically very conservative. Southeast Asian women did not traditionally wear veils because the islands are tropical. The same is true with countries like Iran or Afghanistan only a few decades ago. But after Saudi-educated preachers started flooding Muslim countries, funded by the trillions of dollars of oil money, people became more and more Arabized.
Women started wearing black burqas even in 32-degree weather. Showing skin became banned. Women were not allowed to talk to strangers anymore. native Islamic architecture lost their native designs and became Arabic-style masjids. People started wearing thawbs and speaking in Arabic. Hudud became extremely common, with public or mob executions becoming the norm. Multiple Islamic leaders started calling themselves "Islamist" and implementing religious laws as civil laws that apply to everyone, even in countries where there are large non-Muslim minorities (like Malaysia). Brunei itself became more like an Arab country, than a Southeast Asian one.
And lastly, the most important effect of all: terrorism became normal and global.
Saudis can not do that alone. You did this to yourselves. Islam regressed to the dark ages.
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东皇太一 LOL That's probably what Beijing wants you to believe. Do google 外来词 (wài lái cí) and 音译 (yīn yì). Unless you don't have google. Chinese don't have loanwords in the same sense as other languages because your words as a rule only have one syllable. Instead you do transliteration (yīn yì), where you borrow what the words sound like, then create a new "word" using characters that make those sound. Kā fēi is just one example of that. There are tons more, especially for modern technology and concepts. Things like bèng jí (bungee jumping), yōufú (UFO), jítā (guitar), módēng (modern), nílóng (nylon), qiǎokèlì (chocolate), fútèjiā (vodka), and many many more. The most famous is perhaps kěkǒu kělè (Coca Cola).
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@bobbyclemente21 Um. That's the same usage as in Spanish? "Siempre" again means "always"/"forever"/"sure". Imagine the following conversation:
wife69: "Do you love me?"
wifebeater69: "Siempre!" ("Always!")
Works, doesn't it? It belongs to a class of adverbs that can be used as a reply, like "Nunca" ("never"), "Tal vez" ("maybe"), "Claro" ("[it is] clear"/"I understand"/"of course"), etc.
As for the frequency of their usage, it depends on what dialect of Spanish you speak. The closest to Philippine usage is Mexican Spanish, where "Siempre" can also mean "certainly"/"definitely" within a sentence. In Mexico, the more common phrase used as a response is also "Siempre si"/"Si, siempre" ("always yes") or "Por siempre" ("for always"). In Spain, the preferred combination is "Para siempre" ("for always") or "Desde siempre" ("until forever"). There's also "Como siempre" ("as usual") and "Siempre que" ("after all"). It can also be used to mean "still", same usage as the Philippines.
And there are native equivalents of the word in Tagalog: "tiyak", "[pa]lagi", "talaga", "[magpa]kailanman", "[sa] habang panahon" with slightly differing connotations, though they are rarely used as a response. In Cebuano, the native term "alang"/"alang-alang" is the exact equivalent of "siempre", and is used just as commonly to mean "of course".
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@vladtheimpaler3625 And yet look at countries with dictatorships, not only in Asia, but in Africa and elsewhere, notice how they're all friendly to and protected by China. Democratically elected leaders, no matter how corrupt, are temporary. Dictators, once bribed and reliant on China's protection/trade/weapons, are forever. Especially once they get sanctioned by the rest of the world, in which case, they would have no choice but to suck up to China. North Korea is a perfect example, without China, it would have collapsed decades ago and reunited with South Korea. China is the only thing preventing other countries from rescuing the North Korean citizens.
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@limbus_patrum What part of "thrill-seeking" and "attention-seeking" did you not get? If killers like Jack the Ripper can leave victims in 19th century England for cops to discover, why hasn't the same phenomenon happened in every other country? Blaming poor policing simply doesn't cut it.
There are studies that correlate serial murders to urbanization, marginalization, and a celebrity culture - conditions usually only found in first world countries. Serial killers target strangers, often from a specific vulnerable class, and then bask anonymously in the attention their act receives.
These conditions aren't true everywhere, certainly not in developing countries. Like in your counter-example of a favela, which is typically close-knit and everyone knows everyone else. Everyone is at the same socio-economic level. And murders in such communities do not receive the celebrity treatment in media, they don't get screamed about in newspaper headlines, talked about endlessly in TV, or turned into a Hollywood movie.
Serial killers aren't even universal, time-wise. There are less serial killers today in first world countries, for example, than in the 60s to the 80s. Is it because cops today are less capable than cops back then? No. It's because the culture has shifted. Serial killers get far less morbid media attention today than it once did.
Ironically, that's probably also why mass shootings are more common now. Because, for lack of a better word, it's the "in" thing when it comes to attention-seeking psychopaths.
So no. The claim that there are just as many serial killers everywhere else, but they're just not caught, is simply not true.
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@ancienttime6307 Zelenskiy is a Jewish comedian. Who only ran for president as a joke. And you believe Russia's story of how he's an evil Nazi. Use your brain.
The USSR is not Russia. The USSR WAS sending nukes to Cuba.
The West has not been hostile to Russia since 1990. Why would EU buy so much gas and oil from Russia if they thought Russia was an enemy? Why would everyone open their borders to Russians? Invest in Russia? Buy things from Russia?
Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, and Poland are NATO countries that already border Russia. Have they pointed "machine guns" at Russia before the invasion? Finland is a NATO ally that also border Russia. Have they pointed "machine guns" at Russia before the invasion? Has any western country attacked Russia at all before 2014? No. So you're argument is invalid.
Putin isn't scared of what would happen to Russians. Nothing would. I haven't thought of Russians as enemies ever since they became the CIS. Not until they invaded Abkhazia and South Ossetia, then Crimea and Donbass. All under the orders of Putin.
Putin is scared of his own hold on power. That is why he fears NATO.
Ironically enough, it has parallels to your country. Ever since China opened up in the 80s to the world, I and people I know didn't see you as enemies. You were a country with a weird government that sells cheap goods. We even started celebrating our Chinese immigrants (of whom we have a lot - I, myself, have distant Chinese ancestry on my father's side). Thinking you were a benign peaceful superpower. All that changed when you invaded the South China Sea and started threatening all of your neighbors with war. And it all happened at the same time as you too acquired another "eternal president" in Xi. Then the drums of war started pounding again.
It's the same story everywhere in the world. Whenever an autocrat takes power, they start indoctrinating their population to fear everyone else. To cut off the world. To start seeing neighbors as enemies. From Lukashenko to Bolsonaro to Maduro to Castro to Kim Jong Un. Every single one of them starts telling their people that the outside world wants to invade them, so they can distract them from the corruption and consolidation of absolute power from within.
And thus wars begin. Because of autocrats. Scared of losing power. Even YOU were a victim of that by Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany during WW2. As we were.
I repeat: People are dying. Because of one man's political ambitions. And it could get worse. So much worse, once Putin decides the only way he can remain in power is with nukes.
As history have shown over and over, autocrats are a threat to the human species. It's ironic that communists, of all people, don't seem to realize that. You toppled your emperors allegedly for the sake of the people, only to replace it with another, just with a different title.
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@ancienttime6307 I repeat: I am NOT Ukrainian.
I repeat: Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, and Poland are NATO members that already surround Russia. They don't host nuclear missiles.
Ukraine wanted to join the EU, not NATO. Stop repeating that lie. That's when Putin invaded Crimea and started a fake rebellion in Donbass and Lukhansk. Ironically, the reason Ukraine now want to join NATO is because of what Putin did.
If you want to make friends and allies, you don't do it by shooting them.
The 13,000 people who died in Donetsk are from BOTH sides. None of them would have died of Putin had simply let Ukraine join the EU. Like they're entitled to as a SOVEREIGN COUNTRY. You claim to never interfere in country's internal affairs, but now that Russia is interfering, suddenly it's alright.
The leaders of the fake rebellion in Donetsk are all Russians. The soldiers who fought in Donetsk are all Russians. Ask the Crimean Tatars if they want to join Russia, like Putin claims.
"you don't get to tell or enforce freedom on others, that's exactly the OPPOSITE of freedom."
Something we can agree on. Except you seem to not mind it at all when Putin is doing it. He claims to be "liberating" Ukraine from imaginary Nazis.
I'm sure you can tell the differences, not just in politics, but in people's lives, between our two countries.
Yes. We don't disappear to Siberia if we say anything bad about our president or our government. We don't blindly follow our temporary leaders to war. We don't live in a closed world where outside information is treated as dangerous.
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