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Comments by "William Warren" (@wbwarren57) on "SpaceX: A Grift Of Planetary Proportions" video.
You missed a couple crucial points that make this even more certain to be a grift: 1. What are the key aspects of Elon‘s plans for bars is to generate fuel from the Martian atmosphere and water under the Martian surface to power of the starship for return flights. However, there is no pilot plant for this activity on earth yet. It would be much easier to do this on earth because the atmospheric pressure is so much higher and there’s abundant water and yet there’s no prototype plant yet. 2. There is no prototype of what an initial Martian comedy would actually consist of. If you don’t have a prototype of what an initial Martian colony would consist of, how do you know how much stuff you have to bring from the earth to Mars to establish one? The fact that such a prototype does not exist means that the starship as far as being a mars vehicle really has no solid requirements to, use as the basis of sound engineering.
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Is it possible that Elon has based his entire business model off of the underwear Gnomes made popular by South Park? First step, you steal all the underwear. Third step, profit. Of course, neither Elon nor anyone else knows what the second step is.
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@HaviccB "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there." Building a spaceship to go to Mars when you don't have any sort of feasible plan for actually going to Mars and colonizing it seems to be the height of bad business judgement. Or, as the kids say "Elon Genius!".
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@ublade82 Yes, a lot of work has been done on the C02 to methane reaction. However, a lot of important questions can only be answered with a prototype: 1. How big does the C02 capture hardware have to be to work in the Mars atmosphere? 2. How much methane can a prototype produce with a given amount of C02 and water under Martian conditions? 3. How fast can a prototype produce enough fuel to fill a Starship on Mars to get it back to the Earth? 4. What are the energy requirements for the prototype and where is this energy going to come from? Probably will have to be nuclear because the number of solar panels required would be prohibitively expensive to take to Mars and impossible to make on Mars. Where is the prototype of a sufficiently large and safe nuclear power source? 4. How big and how heavy will the prototype be? How many Starships will be required to get it to Mars? 5. How will the prototype be assembled on Mars? How much equipment and astronauts will be required? 6. How reliable will the prototype be? How many spare parts need to be taken to Mars? Will the prototype have a tendency to explode?
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@dong9514 You are almost correct. For Elon step two is collect money and step three is make profit. You forgot the first most crucial step that Elon always engages in, which is to make absolutely wild promises that are completely impossible to fulfill, but that excite people. Once you’ve done that people will give you money. Note that there is no step four where promises are kept. That is vital! That would spoil the whole plan!
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@Zackzickel Okay! Then what EXACTLY is the Starship being designed to do? What are the requirements that the engineers are using? How will we know when it is done? How will we know if it is a good spaceship?
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@MemeMan_MEMESQUAD Thank you! Good to know! Where can I short Terraform Industries' stock?
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@MemeMan_MEMESQUAD Is that the best put down you can come up with?
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@Zackzickel The Starship IS a BIG EFFING ROCKET - and that probably gets Elon into beds he'd otherwise not be able to get into. Can't fault him for that!
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@MemeMan_MEMESQUAD I agree that we need more cheap transport to LEO, but I don't see the need for rapid reusability with respect to most paying payloads like satellites that require careful, time consuming integration into the launch vehicle. Even Starlink satellites take more than an hour or two to integrate. As far as orbital refueling, I don't see that as something that is vital because I don't think that Starship is the right vehicle to send to either the Moon or Mars. As far as engineering principles are concerned, good designs are those that work in the context of how they are going to actually be used. The only way to know if Starship is a good design or if it needs to be larger, smaller, or rapidly reusable is to define the context in which it will be used.
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I doubt that Elon really is very wealthy. For example, he apparently cannot afford to buy condoms that do not break.
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@MemeMan_MEMESQUAD I hope they do figure it out. We certainly need it.
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@MemeMan_MEMESQUAD Thank you. JWST is an excellent example of how knowing your intended purpose thoroughly is crucial in developing a good design.
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I doubt that Elon really is very wealthy. For example, he apparently cannot afford to buy condoms that do not break.
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Is it possible that Elon has based his entire business model off of the underwear Gnomes made popular by South Park? First step, you steal all the underwear. Third step, profit. Of course, neither Elon nor anyone else knows what the second step is.
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@skierpage I am referring specifically to two Elon lies: 1) FSD and 2) Starship for Moon and Mars colonization. Elon keeps saying that FSD "will work any day now" and that as soon as it does, robo taxis will flood the streets and make enormous profits. Elon says that a 1000 final version Starships will voyage together to Mars carrying 100,000 new colonists every two years (Mars launch window) for 20 years. You ARE right though - at least the Underpants Gnomes AT LEAST did not tell huge lies, so comparing Elon to them is very unfair.
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