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Comments by "Orwellian Horseman of the Apocalypse" (@DennisMoore664) on "The \"Leave Me Alone\" State (with Yvonne Wingett Sanchez) | The Focus Group Podcast" video.
@KristineWahl-ft9qj My position is that the only legislation that should exist around the subject of abortion regards making sure the health care providers and staff are qualified and that the facility is clean and safe.
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@KristineWahl-ft9qj Precisely. From my perspective the only codified legalities concerning abortion are that it needs to be treated like any other kind of health care service because, while admittedly there are different concerns involved, it's part of the spectrum of reproductive health care. I don't hear anyone saying men having a vasectomy should be made illegal or have to have the procedure performed in an unsafe setting because it stops men from being able to do their part in creating a pregnancy.
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A lot of things can wrong during a pregnancy. And plenty of problems with the fetus or the course pf the woman's pregnancy aren't discovered or don't happen until the second or even the third trimester. It's one of the reasons limits on abortion are a bad idea.
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@TKUA11 When it comes to this issue, the only laws that should exist concerning abortion are that the providers be qualified and the facility and devices and/or drugs being used are safe for the woman having the procedure. As for the man being involved, if he's even still in the picture then he should support the woman he's gotten pregnant. But often the man isn't even around anymore when a woman is making the decision with her provider about having an abortion. He doesn't have to help pay for the procedure or be there for her while she's recovering physically and emotionally. That socially accepted lack of responsibility for men is the reality of the masculine utopia we actually live in.
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It's always crazy to me to listen to people who voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020 who are now complaining about his character. Various quotes about stupid people come to mind.
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@yvonneplant9434 Not sure why you wouldn't want allies adding their voices of support regardless of their gender. Might as well argue that only someone who has had an abortion should be able to talk about this.
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