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Orwellian Horseman of the Apocalypse
Sam Harris
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Comments by "Orwellian Horseman of the Apocalypse" (@DennisMoore664) on "A Postmortem on My Response to Covid (Episode #335)" video.
There actually are employers and professions that force someone to take a plane or lose their job. Anytime someone has to be able to travel from one city to another that's more than a few hundred miles away, the employer of that person probably would expect the person to fly and be there later the same day or by the next morning. Most employers won't wait for the employee to take the extra time to travel by car, bus, or train. Some of that has changed in a post-COVID world where employers and employees had to adapt to remote work. But Elon Musk, for example, doesn't seem the type of employer to wait for a day or two for an employee to travel by a slower mode of transportation to come to work. And there are other jobs where people need to be physically present to do on-site training, sales, or other in-person work and who need to travel, sometimes from one side of the country to the other, who will have to use a plane to make that trip quickly. Military personnel don't get to say no when ordered to travel and have to use a commercial aircraft. Just a few examples.
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@Brownkid422 That's not your original statement that I replied to though was it? You wrote "no one is forcing you to take the plane or lose your job" and I provided a variety of examples that proved that statement incorrect. Changing your argument after someone has proven you incorrect is a Red Herring fallacy. So you aren't even arguing in good faith. As for your modified argument it's still flawed. There are workers - contracted, part- or full-time, salaried or commissioned - who take a job with one set of standards and expectations from the existing supervisors or owners. Then a new supervisor is hired or owner takes over the company and resets the standards and expectations (Elon buying Twitter as an example). All those employees have to decide if they want to work under the new mandates or leave and find a different job.
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Very nice - excellent comment. High thumb!
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@TheMithridates I'd also be curious to see a list of the things you think Sam was mostly wrong about and Brett turned out right concerning COVID. Also, Sam has owned that there are things he thought were right and he got wrong with the pandemic. But since I don't listen to Brett about COVID I don't know how much (if any) he does the same.
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@RafaleKez4 Thanks for a good example of an ad hominem fallacious argument. Gotcha.
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