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Comments by "Orwellian Horseman of the Apocalypse" (@DennisMoore664) on "The damage you do when you smack a child | James O'Brien - The Whole Show" video.
"Smacking" a child is a pathetic way for an adult to enforce power and discipline over a child. Do you hit your partner or friends when they don't comply a well?
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@tatts1901 My point is that hitting anyone, child or adult, is a pathetic way to try and make them behave the way way you want them to. And as a child whose parents loved them as well as they could considering the way they had been raised, and who was also "smacked" from time to time by my father (or by other adults at the schools I attended) until I was old enough that he (and they) realized I would return the "smack" if it happened again, it was absolutely detrimental to our long term relationships.
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@tatts1901 If you don't accept there are cause and effect relationships from things that we experience as children that shape our attitudes and beliefs later in life then there isn't much point in continuing this exchange as from my experience that's not pseudo science but reality. Likewise, if you think it's okay to use even light physical violence against a child, especially a small child, then again, we're at an impasse. And since you brought it up, I think it's also a bad idea, possibly even more damaging, to tell a child they are useless or incompetent or to use other verbal and emotional abuse to discipline them. It's unfortunate that it takes legislation to help influence adults to find non-physical means to correct their children when they misbehave, but if that's what it takes then I'm not against it. It's clear we are going to have to agree to disagree about this subject and I have to get on with my day now so I'm moving on. Take it easy.
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What do you mean "us"? Only made me angry and a social malcontent.
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@buridah328 Not like that.
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"The most respectful and well balanced people...are still in the east". Not sure part of "the east" you are talking about but that's both silly and clearly wrong in most eastern nations.
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@FactsCanHurt "blah blah blah ... the list is endless" you just keep coming with the silly and clearly wrong comments. Keep telling yourself whatever lies you need to feel better.
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@tatts1901 You could try but they likely wouldn't stay there unless there was a threat of physical abuse if they didn't. And as there are many examples of people smacking or otherwise abusing their partners (and others) in order to make them comply, clearly my argument is logical.
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@tatts1901 Not all of them, but it certainly didn't help.
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@tatts1901 Most people who are smacked as children are not only smacked once or twice, and when I was growing up in the 70's corporal punishment was still often the norm. In my case I wasn't smacked often or too severely because I was a fairly obedient child who also didn't want to get smacked. But the experiences also left a lasting resentment and lack of respect for those who used physical discipline to try and correct my behavior. And I'm not saying physical discipline doesn't work in the short run, just that's it's a pathetic thing to do to another person and especially to a child and that from personal experience it can have negative consequences for the child later on. As for my issues as you put it, I have spent time over the years trying to address and overcome the attitudes and behavior that causes me problems. Part of doing that work is recognizing the root causes of where they come from. Some of the things that I struggle with go back to those events.
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