Comments by "Orwellian Horseman of the Apocalypse" (@DennisMoore664) on "Joy Reid Says Punish The Unvaccinated u0026 Pay Them Less | The Kyle Kulinski Show" video.

It's like Kyle doesn't realize that they have already done that all over the place. It hasn't solved the problem of people refusing to get vaccinated because it's now something ideological and "I-wouldn't-get-vaxxed-for-a-million-dollars" is part of that philosophy. There's only so many times we can say please before you have to impose some kind of sanction or penalty if we want people to do something. No one rational is saying round up the unvaccinated and put them in a camp - just to be responsible and prepare to have to pay at little more in some way(s) if someone can get vaccinated but won't - or move to Idaho or Modoc County or the like and don't leave (I kid I kid). For all it's faults, I think that one of the great things about this country is how we do still have a fair amount of personal agency over our own lives.
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Since we don't live in a Socialist system I'm going to agree (generally) with what Joy Reid said in that specific piece of video. I don't agree with denying someone insurance coverage, access to healthcare or public cultural events, or a job (save for professions that deal with direct patient care in this last case). But I do think it's appropriate to have those who don't have a contraindication for the vaccine and are choosing not to be vaccinated for ideological reasons to have to live with some penalties and/or difficulties for doing so.
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@peoples2296 Lower income people are mostly using the social safety net and are using the medicaid system to pay for their healthcare so that isn't actually a problem.
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@tgF321jikko that's an odd analogy. Please expand and explain.
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@peoples2296 In some ways I am a right winger. In other ways I'm a left winger. Most of the things that I believe are some balance between liberal and conservative. I know that kind of free-thinking and nuance makes things complicated for people's ideological purity tests - bummer.
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@tgF321jikko I'm not a lib. Also not a con. I'm one of those pain in the ass people who can consider two or more opposing ideas and be able to find a balance between them. The best answers to most things in life often lie in a middle path that incorporates elements from a variety of perspectives. And absolute thinking doesn't serve us well either. Government gets plenty wrong but they get plenty right too. I'll take our flawed and imperfect system if uncaring bureaucrats over a cult of personality and a charismatic tribal strongman most every time - there's always an exception.
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@tgF321jikko Okay. Sounds like we just don't agree about things. That's cool, right? Have a good one.
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It's closer to say that her logic would be that if someone has DM1 and chose to live a lifestyle that included drug, alcohol, and tobacco abuse, having an unhealthy diet, not getting any exercise, or regularly using the ER because they can't/won't consistently take the meds they have to be taking that then they should bear a higher burden for those choices. If being on "the Left" means I have to abandon personal responsibility as many here seem to be saying, then I'm certainly not on the Left. But then I never was - I've never been able to buy in 100% to anyones bullshit. I mostly think for myself too much to ever really be part of any group - mostly.
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