Comments by "⃠" (@U20E0) on "Can we taste more than just bitter, salty, sour, sweet and umami?" video.

  1. You know you can’t describe flavors with words. You can only provide examples, or list the apparent chemical composition of something. It is the distinctive taste in meat; soy sauce; tomatoes, including to some extent ketchup; and particularly in fungi, including “yeast extract” ( which is basically just glutamates, amino-acids, and B-vitamins extracted from yeast; designed to add MSG to foods while avoiding the ‘Misconceptions of Sodium Glutamate’ )
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  2. It does. It’s just not known if the flavor of iron is a taste or not
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  3. 1. Everyone describes it differently, as it rarely ( if at all ) occurs on its own, unlike the other base tastes, and not everyone is used to it being on its own, so your brain can get confused; like with some smells. For me it’s just savory, bitter, and that ionic flavor. Just like salt is salty, bitter, and that ionic flavor. 2. Refer to 1 3. Umami is Umami and not Savory because Japan; and that should really not be the case. 4. Refer to a doctor of the appropriate field. Preferably several.
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  4. Because Japan
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  5. When Japan
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  6. Not that fast. Metals and metal ions have different flavors to each other. Also solid metal has neither flavor nor smell, but metal powders do.
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  7.  @SadToffee  the flavor of metals themselves was what was being disputed about, not the flavor of ions. There isn’t really any large point, I just wanted something in my reply box; but there are many reasons why there is a dispute about metals having a taste or not, and i don’t know most of them, but I do know that there wouldn’t be a dispute if the answer was this simple.
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  8. Depending on which way the ambiguity of your statement is bent; that’s because it is.
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  9. There is. But the argument was whether that flavor is caused by a taste or not.
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  10.  @pmberkeley  you can smell ( and taste ) fine metal powder, although it’s not something anyone would recommend doing. You can also taste electrical charge. Also, lol, I just noticed the “fallout” ( and fixed it )
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  11.  @pmberkeley  But that is not the problem. The problem is wether the mechanism of detecting the metal flavor on the tongue can allow it to be classified as a base taste, that mechanism is unknown, so the answer is too
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  12.  @pmberkeley  not what I think about it, we are arguing about two different perceptions of the same phenomenon. You need small particles to properly taste them, and metals like to collect into very solid crystals. So you need the metal to either be finely ground to create some free particles, or you need it to be a part of a smaller molecule, which mostly happens in salts, where the metal is an ion. Or you need electrical current to rip out some small quantity of particles, in which case, there will also be electricity involved. Metal connected to arguably small-ish molecules also happens in blood, but blood has a lot of salt that partially covers the iron taste with its own sodium. All of this may or may not result in the taste being associated with salts, or if you can also tell the taste of the other component of the salt and/or have put wires in your mouth for no reason — with electric charge; instead of metals. Don’t know about you, but for me this was a very informative conversation, especially this conclusion.
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  13.  @thescarygary  your brain classifies data into groups based not on preset conditions, but on the differences, similarities, and patterns within the data itself. This doesn’t affect the fact that you have some fixed sensory capabilities, but if you have frequently tasted savoriness and sweetness at the same time, and sweetness in a large variety of instances, when you taste savoriness alone, your brain will classify is as similar to sweet, even if it has zero sweetness to it.
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  14. Well, “oleogustus” literally means “oil taste”.
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  15. It used to be called “savory”, but then Japan
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  16. This. Your brain uses something similar to T hat one algorithm ( forgot name ) that continuously self-modifies to classify different combinations of data into groups based on similarity; for identifying absolutely everything including colors and flavors. Which leads to corner cases and totally new data being perceived very differently by different people, be that savoriness or the smell of some particular chemicals.
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  17. some of my opinions: 1) You can smell sucrose, you can smell glucose, you can smell fructose, they all smell different, but you can’t smell “sweet”. 2) wtf is liquid smoke???? Or a bourbon???
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  18.  @melodymcdaniel9268  now I know. ( English isn’t my first language )
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  19. Metal ions have a very distinctive taste. Try putting a large salt crystal on your tongue
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