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Comments by "Vaska Tumir" (@vaska1999) on "Mom's Confession Leaves Detectives in Shock" video.
Yes, the system is definitely to blame here. That woman needed continued observation in a psychiatric institution until she recovered from her postpartum psychosis. It was a crime to just send her away with a prescription for anti-psychotics.
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You obviously know next to nothing about postpartum psychosis. She shouldn't have been sent to prison at all, in fact. This is one of the relatively rare cases of the culprit really not being guilty due to genuine (though temporary) psychosis. That woman should never have been left to her own devices -- she should have been given at least 4-8 weeks round the clock care in a psychiatric ward or a hospital, but the US is too bloody callous and uncaring to provide necessary medical help to its people.
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@jorugarushia9167 Do not judge what you know and understand so little about. The system failed both this mother and her infant daughter. Not guilty by reason of insanity is real, and in this case it was absolutely genuine.
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The mother should have remained in a psych ward for at least 4-8 weeks. I also wonder just how much Aunt Debora knew and was told about postpartum psychosis and WHY it was IMPERATIVE for the baby's safety that it be cared for by other people and not her psychotic mother until the mother was medically cleared. Did anyone from child or social services sit down for at least 30 minutes with Debora and other family members to explain this in detail?
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@Luke101 Oh God. Go and read up a little about postpartum psychosis first! Even in other types of psychosis people don't usually blank out and lose their memories. She remembered what she did but she could never tell why because she was literally insane when she did it. And was still visibly ill when interrogated by those detectives.
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The health system failed that baby first and foremost. Her mother should have remained under constant psychiatric care, in hospital, until she recovered. It's appalling that the hospital just sent her home with a prescription for meds, especially after she first tried to harm the baby! Appallingly irresponsible and callous of the health system itself.
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@MsSalem-qm1lp Evil is real, but this is not it. This is postpartum psychosis, a well known and absolutely treatable temporary form of insanity. It's caused by extreme hormonal unbalance with wild chemical and hormonal fluctuations following a pregnancy. All mothers with postpartum psychosis do eventually recover, but it's imperative that the baby be cared for by someone else while the mother is still in the grip of this psychosis.
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I wonder if child services did actually sit down with Debora to explain how dangerous and unpredictable postpartum psychosis is and why it was imperative not to allow Deasia anywhere near her baby daughter. Watching this, I also had serious issues with the investigating detective trying to force a clearly insane woman into taking responsibility for her actions. However horrible her actions, and they were awful and gruesome, she can't be considered guilty due to genuine, unfeigned insanity. I surmise that she was later talked into pleading guilty by her own defense lawyer, for reasons unknown to me (this video doesn't address that at all). The problem with that resolution is that this woman needed continued, long-term psychiatric care, something she wasn't going to be given in prison. In a very real sense, and although the killer got sent to prison for what she'd done, this was still a miscarriage of justice and a tragedy all around.
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@scarlettrahnavard3101 Because postpartum psychosis is a temporary thing and women usually recover from it completely after a few weeks or some months. And turn out to be wonderful mothers. That's why babies whose mothers have the terrible misfortune to get postpartum psychosis are not put up for adoption.
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@dittohead7044 Debbie's sister works full time, which is why the baby didn't go to her.
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You're so right. The system itself failed that young woman as much as it failed her baby. I keep wondering just how much the aunt knew and understood about the seriousness of postpartum psychosis. How much the social services actually explained to her and the rest of the family beyond impressing on her that the mother must not be allowed to be alone with the infant even for a minute? Such a tragedy, especially for the poor baby and her mother. But also for the rest of the family.
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