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Comments by "Bob Roberts" (@YourHineyness) on "Why Europe and America’s dying forests could be good news" video.
Humans are very adaptable. If they can survive through ice ages and live in the Arctic now I think we'll struggle through.
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Because CO2 is not a bad thing.
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" It was once believed that young forests could sequester more carbon but currently it's believed that mature forests sequesters more". That's a big problem in general. When the latest research shows that "X" is happening everyone wants to do something and we spring into action. Then later we find out "no, "X" isn't happening, it's actually "Y" and off we go again. In the 1970s we were supposedly going into an ice age. Every magazine around had covers like "Are you ready for the coming Ice Age?" and "Will we all freeze to death?". Now it appears we are all going to die of heat stroke. I guess there's no money to be made if scientists said "the climate's going to be kinda meh for awhile".
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@etienne8110 No one has any idea what the climate will look like in the future. Look at a graph of Earth's climate in the past: it's all over the place. You can't take a few decades of climate measurements and project them into the future. Tomorrow we could start cooling on our way into another ice age. No one knows. The "Green Movement" is called green because that's the color of money.
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Another reason for bigger fires is the lack of logging. Logged areas provided fire breaks and also left roads that could be utilized to control a fire when it happened. Total fire suppression was the original culprit. I believe back several decades ago the US Forest Service's goal was to have every reported fire out by 10 am the next day. That led to over growth of the forests but logging helped clear out some of it. But now with environmentalists blocking every Federal timber sale, at least in my area, the woods are so thick you can't see 10 feet and are ripe for fire. Environmentalists would rather it burn than be harvested for human use.
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Please put down the Kool-Aid.
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Perhaps rigid rows of trees appealed to the German character. A natural forest is so messy.
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Funny, Google Translate is having a little trouble with that one :).
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The human body is 23% carbon by mass.
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Except nations. It causes many internal fractures. Europe is discovering right now that diversity is good in forests but bad in nation-states.
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It's best to keep the sheep scared. Their wallets open so much faster.
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Do a little research on historical CO2 levels, not like the last few years but a few million. Our CO2 levels right now are way below average. CO2 encourages more plant growth, plants give off O2 and round and round it goes making the atmosphere thicker. That's why dragonflies with 2 foot wingspans could fly in the past whereas today they couldn't get off the ground. A thicker atmosphere benefits animals and plants. What's next, declare oxygen a pollutant?
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Well, anything that helps tits grow I'm all for.
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@drewski-qu3co It's kind of amusing how easily triggered Greenies are. If you deviate from the Party line one inch they have a meltdown.
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@9UaYXxB Bio-fuel = bad. (Not sustainable) Ethanol = bad. (Burning food in a starving world) Coal = bad. (Evil CO2) Oil = bad. (Evil CO2) Solar = bad. (What about the tortoises on the ground who need sun?) Windmills = bad. (Chops up the birds and bats) Hydropower = bad. (Dams destroy rivers' biodiversity) Beating rocks together to stay warm in winter = good (for now).
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I wonder how many people condemning the lumber companies for greed work for nothing at their jobs? What, you get a paycheck? Greedy bastidges!
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Because we're scientists and do this for a living damn it! Now give us a few billion dollars so we can be all scientifical and everything. Damned civilians!
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@omnirath There have been other consensuses in the past: the Earth is flat, the Earth is the center of the solar system, blood-letting is beneficial to health, mercury cures syphilis, etc. I am not convinced of an idea just because the herd approves.
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That's a problem in the Western US. After a fire the environmentalists won't let timber companies go in and cut the standing dead which is still perfectly usable. So many times the area burns a second time. "Let it burn because it's natural" believers should go walk through a newly burned area and count all of the dead animals. The birds are burned beyond recognition but a burned herd of elk is still recognizable. Many environmentalists really need to educate themselves about the environment.
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That's because Europe and America are better than everyone else at everything, including ruining our forests. You're just jealous.
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Earth is always warming or cooling. Be glad it's warming. Cooling is 100 times worse.
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I watch but don't listen. Maybe we should team up?
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Most "green" technologies just move pollution from where you live to where other people live. Sort of like EVs. Most lithium comes from China because they don't mind the horrific environmental effects and that lithium is then put into EVs so some Americans can feel good about helping the planet. Whatever happened to "think globally, act locally"?
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Humans are not causing climate change. It is a natural process that started 12,000 years ago.
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I fell off a ladder yesterday. This global warming is going to kill me. Something must be done and it must cost trilions of dollars!!!
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If the Gulf Stream continues to fade, yes, much colder. They may soon be hoping for global warming. Central Europe is about the same latitude as central Canada, a place known for its "balmy" weather.
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"We can fix it, we have the technology!....which is better than that old technology that we fixed it with before. This is new and improved technology!"
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When I saw the title of this video I immediately thought it would be "now that we've got rid of those pesky trees we'll put in solar panels instead". I mean, Germany is always so sunny and all, right? Right? Hello?
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Any "management" that Native Americans did was purely accidental. They set fires often to herd animals to an area where it was easier to kill them. They didn't sit around the campfires discussing biodiversity and drawing up an action plan. They did what they did to survive, not to be "green".
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What about it?
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I'd die too. BTW, I'd love for you to explain to me how Christianity and Marxism are compatible. Marxists sure don't think so. Judaism and Marxism sure.
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I live in the US just south of the Canadian border. Look at Google maps on satellite view at the BC/US border area and look at the amount of logged areas in Canada. It's staggering. Our timber industy is practically closed down but BC's is roaring. Every board I buy says "Canada" on it.
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"Yo, could we have some privacy here? Perverts...and put that damned camera away!"
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Yeah, we've done such a great job at managing our forests why not try to manage the atmosphere too? What could go wrong?
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@imtheeastgermanguy5431 Censorship. I just got out of YouTube jail for some crime unknown. It doesn't take much for them to get offended.
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@martinpahl5652 "We are able to model climate change and so have a fairly good idea of what is coming". No we don't. We haven't a clue what's coming because we are not in control of the planet. It's not a big terrarium that we have been put in charge of. The forces that animate the Earth are so huge we are microbes by comparison. Try to control an erupting volcano, just one. Why don't we start a project to cool the oceans by one degree? It's impossible.
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@wawanmuldiantoro7159 "Double standard isn’t." Sort of like decrying cutting down trees while living in a wooden house.
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@imtheeastgermanguy5431 Why not? Everyone always wants to hit the beach to soak up some warmth. Now you won't have to go to the beach. Think of the dirty fossil fuel we'll save.
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Most people confuse weather with climate. Climate is better measured in 1000 year or larger increments, not in a human lifetime.
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Think of the Irish potato famine.
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"We screwed it all up the first time but by golly we'll get it right this time". Uh-huh. And in 50 years people will see what we've done today and say "what were they thinking?"
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Yeah, that diversity is doing wonders in Europe right now. Saw pictures of the violence in France about the election. They were certainly a "diverse" group of rioters. I didn't know the French had such dark skin. I'm part French and am blond and blue-eyed. What's up with that?
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In a lot of Rocky Mountain states it's the pine bark beetle killing the lodgepole pines. The trees get so many holes in them they bleed to death over the course of several years.
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Don't worry. They are now tearing out all of those trees to plant rice, which they originally quit growing to plant trees, even up mountain sides with predictably catastrophic results. The CCP seems to have mood swings.
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Yes, about 12,000 years or so. It was those damned cavemen and their pesky campfires that kicked it off :). I have heard that the Sahara Desert's southern boundary has moved north quite a few miles so far and wheat is being planted further north in Canada than before. A warmer Earth is also a wetter Earth as more water evaporates from the oceans which falls as rain elsewhere. Also more CO2 = more plant growth. The problem is that it changes the weather patterns and scares people so it's all considered bad though a warmer Earth is better for life. Global warming needs a better PR company because the anti-warming crowd is winning currently through better publicity. If only we could get Leo Dicaprio onboard. He has a private jet so...he's kind of doing his part already. Thanks Leo. Keep 'em flying!
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@jaaklucas1329 I think a big variable in the same species is how big the tree was when cut as to strength and hardness of the wood. Old growth trees were huge and the rings were very close together making a stronger, harder wood. Nowadays the 2x4s you get have fewer rings since they cut much smaller trees and the rings are farther apart. I just renovated my house built in 1940 and the old 2x4s were better than the new ones I just bought so I put them right back in. Older trees have to have stronger wood because they are holding up a lot heavier tree. My theory anyway.
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The Earth abides forever.
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You do know that you are 23% carbon? Perhaps sequestering is in order.
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Sooooo, you are saying CO2 is good for plants? And plants are the basis of life on Earth, but CO2 in the atmosphere is bad, is a pollutant, and must be removed? See where I'm going with this?
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What were her parents thinking? Though I did know a guy named Claude Balls once. He was a lion tamer for the circus...and then there was Seymour Butz who ran a Porta-Potty business.
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@gabrielbalbec883 Actually, in the US, most fires are caused by lightning.
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@gabrielbalbec883 And then we could all live in mud houses since there would be no lumber. Yay! It's amazing to me how many anti-human environmentalists live in wooden houses and drive cars made out of mined metals and burning oil by-products. They take after their hero and great scientist Al Gore who has a private jet.
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@auldfouter8661 And how many years have they been collecting data? Climate operates in thousands of years not 100 or 200. Do a search on climate graphs going back thousands and thousands of years and you'll see how normal climate change is. You don't measure climate by "back when I was kid the winters were colder, so..."
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I loved it when Al Gore said "the science is settled". No, science is never "settled". New discoveries are made every day. And Al, the Earth does not have a fever but I suspect that you do. Go and lie down...in your private jet.
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A Princeton Advanced Studier? Huh, what does he know about it? I would rather listen to that great scientist, Al Gore. He won a Nobel Prize, an Emmy, and somehow managed to make $200 million dollars all at the same time.
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