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Comments by "ke6gwf - Ben Blackburn" (@ke6gwf) on "" video.
Yup, and if it were an issue with the rocket, some new part, or something that can't be fully tested before launch etc, I might give them a full pass, but this was one of multiple ground support equipment failures, which tells me that they are not properly maintaining their ground equipment, and not properly testing it between missions. Some unforeseeable issues are expected from time to time, and some things won't show up even in rigorous testing because they require a specific set of circumstances, but to have that many GSE errors in one mission indicates something deeper going on.
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Jeff Lee if you don't understand how having multiple problems in a row with millions of people watching, on a mature product, might be embarrassing, then you must have very thick skin personally, or more likely, are very sensitive to having your mistakes called out. This is kind of like a product failing during an Apple unveiling event, or like the bullet proof glass on the Cybertruck shattering. If you don't think it's embarrassing, than that's fine, but most of the rest of us do, so you don't have to get mad at Scott for feeling embarrassed by the failure.
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Tory said on Twitter that it can handle a few fireballs.
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It's embarrassing that they are having so much trouble with their ground equipment, because they can test it all they want and keep it maintained and in perfect working order during all the down time between missions. But it sounds like they have let it age, and not kept it in tip top shape.
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@zacharyhutchison4006 Elon plans to phase out the F9 once Starship is flying, because Starship can do everything that F9 can do, cheaper and faster. The original plan for Boca was actually to be a private launch facility for F9, which would be cheaper than leasing from NASA, but when they realized how hard it would be building on bottomless silt, they decided it would be cheaper to do it from NASA facilities. They now have more time and money, so they can build the giant pier foundations at Boca, but they have no interest or need to launch F9 anymore, since Elon hopes to be able to stop manufacturing them soon.
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@Oliver-GS unless you were planning on having it sit in orbit for a year, and then need to fly again, it makes no sense. Electrolysis takes time, based on the amount of power (solar panels?) you have, but it produces gas. So then you would need to take more solar power and run a cryogenic liquification plant to make it liquid, which means you have to launch that equipment and all those solar panels. Much easier just to send up the cryo fuel already.
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@carljohan9265 ya, you have to run to the hobby shop and pick up a new pack of Estes engine ignitors, and crawl up under the rocket and replace them lol (they actually use large ignitors underneath to burn off the vented hydrogen gas, which have to be replaced after an abort)
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@alphagt62 the emergency abort system functioning properly proved that the ground support systems that failed were either badly designed or poorly maintained, and a fraction of a second later, could have resulted in the loss of the rocket.
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