Comments by "Maksie0" (@Maksie0) on "Liberal Christians vs Conservative Christians | Middle Ground" video.

  1.  @MollyHuffle  Being gay isn't a choice or a lifestyle.
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  2.  @Soybean_Rodriguez  There's no such thing as eternal misery, the human brain doesn't function eternally.
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  3.  @shaunjohn5724  He's not "fighting any fight", he's been convinced to make his life worse for no good reason. It's tragic.
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  4.  @lionrugissant  The US is not a theocracy.
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  5. Good, religious institutions shouldn't hold political power in a secular country.
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  6.  @anthonywilkes5290  What's sad is that zealots like you encourage people to live miserable lives for some alleged eternal reward that's never been demonstrated to actually exist.
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  7. Why have you decided to become a worse person?
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  8.  @MBison-im2qy  I'm not asking who you choose to date or have sex with, mind you, I'm asking whether you choose to feel attracted to certain people. Are you telling me you had no interest in either men or women and then just made the conscious decision to find women attractive? If so, is that something you're capable of switching around again, if only for a short moment just to know that you can?
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  9. @Mary Velasquez My biggest fear is moray eels but you do you
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  10.  @MBison-im2qy  Do you choose what gender you're attracted to?
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  11.  @starwarsking548  The line is drawn at consent, dummy.
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  12.  @michaellabostrom2799  Or he won't, and he'll have lived a life devoid of romantic love for no reason.
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  13.  @baleriaje6712  "The mafia doesn't break people's legs. People break their own legs by not paying the mafia when they come to collect."
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  14. Oh damn, Marx was a Satanist? He was even cooler than I thought
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  15.  @EmeraldPixelGamingEPG  A fictional character from Christian mythology.
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  16.  @EmeraldPixelGamingEPG  Rebellion against authority. Something I'd say we could use more of in today's world.
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  17. The answer is Quark.
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  18.  @CerealMilk00  You can live a life without sex or romantic relationships. But unless you're asexual or aromantic, why would you? There's nothing wrong with being gay. There's no rational reason not to pursue happiness with consenting adults you're attracted to.
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  19. True, conservative positions tend to be based on emotions.
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  20. That's right, the only true Christians are socialists.
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  21.  @adriana12995  "See, you can pay up, or get yer legs broken. That ain't so hard to understand, is it?"
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  22.  @ΚώσταςΡωμ  Whoa, account made all the way back in 2018? Did I just find the original? Did you forget to switch to one of your new ones?
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  23. It pains me when people feel like their sexuality is something they need to "struggle with". Being gay harms no one. Why are we still hung up on it?
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  24.  @Soybean_Rodriguez  With what? Dead people don't have eyeballs attached to functioning brains.
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  25. You make Christianity look kinda bad when you insist that only homophobic Christians are "real" Christians.
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  26. I'll take kind and blasphemous over cruel and pious any day.
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  27.  @ΚώσταςΡωμ  My mistake, seems I mixed up two names.
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  28. There's nothing wrong with being gay.
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  29. Nobody likes a spammer.
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  30. Such an authoritarian message. "This is your leader. Suffer for him."
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  31. You mean the thing we're all a part of? Yeah, sounds good, I like the world, let's do good stuff for the world thank you
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  32.  @EmeraldPixelGamingEPG  I'm no Satanist so I haven't looked into it a whole lot. I just know that according to Christian mythology (or at least as some of them tell it) he was like an angel who disobeyed and got thrown into the fiery pit, and now he's like a mischievous ghost that gets people to subvert authority or something. Is there a point you're planning on getting to anytime soon with this questionnaire, by the way?
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  33.  @RebecaHuzur  I'm not. And that's not something you know, it's something you believe.
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  34. Which is why you shouldn't use the bible for your morality
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  35. I find it weird that you only seem to apply this to the progressive side. Do you think Jesus would've been a Republican?
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  36.  @kaitlynbarlow7903  Because eternal suffering is both cruel and unjust. No finite crime is ever deserving of infinite punishment.
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  37. Sure is a lot of blatant homophobia in these comments.
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  38. Why?
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  39. No, because that would result in a person being murdered. Nobody dies as a result of Angel dating another guy.
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  40. It's one of the lost commandments. "Thou shalt not drive with a velocity exceeding the limit set by thine local government."
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  41. Religions are a reflection of the society that made them. It's not healthy that a significant portion of the population gets some of their morals from the bronze age.
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  42. How can you be friends with a sperm cell
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  43. Conservatism isn't awesome, it's awful.
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  44. Uh, we have socialized healthcare in Europe. What you're worrying about is not realistic. If anything your current government is letting poor people die by having them choose between healthcare and enormous bills.
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  45. But there's no reason why you shouldn't.
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  46. How do you know?
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  47. Every single one of my sperm cells could potentially grow into an amazing person. Does that mean I should dedicate 100% of my time to impregnating as many women as humanly possible, just to save all those hypothetical future amazing people?
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  48. Hey guys, I uhh have the special eyes from my religion and I can tell from the other eyes what their beliefs are, yup
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  49. Exactly, LGBTQ+ people are a convenient target because they're an oppressed minority. Of course, now that gay people are more accepted, trans people are on the conservative chopping block.
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  50. That's right, only socialists are real Christians!
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  51. There's countless denominations of Christianity alone. Clearly it changes based on what people want it to be constantly.
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  52. Why do you want Christians to be worse?
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  53. @RedTape Hey, remember when you got banned from YouTube over a dozen times for hate speech? Makes you think.
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  54. I dunno, if the book is to be believed, he wiped out the entire world at one point. There were probably quite a few fetuses among the deaths there.
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  55. May every religion be warped beyond recognition by progressive ideas.
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  56. @Çaesar The definition of homophobia has been explained to you countless times. It's not my fault you don't listen.
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  57. Truly bizarre that you think justice is inherently evil
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  58.  @adriana12995  Good, people should definitely be criticized for saying they don't want gay people to have equal rights. That's a pretty clear case of the persecution I mentioned.
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  59.  @adriana12995  You can't claim victimhood because people don't tolerate your intolerance towards LGBTQ+ people.
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  60.  @adriana12995  Like any other action, speech can cause harm. And anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric is actively harmful to people because of something they never even chose to be. I should clarify though, I don't dislike all Christians, after all, this very video shows they can be perfectly decent people. But when some of them refuse to even support marriage equality, how can I respect such harmful and backwards thinking? You act as if all ideas should be respected equally, but some of those ideas exist to trample on other people. The KKK isn't persecuted when they're banned from burning a cross in a public space.
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  61.  @adriana12995  You're right, what happens in churches isn't my business. I think Christian doctrine does LGBTQ+ Christians a disservice though, as you can see with people like Angel who feel like they have to suppress that part of themselves. And there's plenty of people who would want to take that legal equality away, which is why I feel it's important to not allow that anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric to happen unopposed. At the end of the day, I think every religious person will see their version of their religion as the "true" one. I don't believe any of them are "true", so I prefer the more egalitarian ones. You believe in a god who sees LGBTQ+ people as abominations, others believe in a god who tolerates LGBTQ+ people. I don't think conservative churches should be forced to change their rules, but they're not free from criticism.
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  62. Internalized homophobia is "based" now, apparently
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  63.  @JH324  Society is constantly progressing because of people who think about social issues and strive to create a more free and egalitarian society. Your bronze age ideas are being replaced, and good riddance.
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  64.  @JH324  My comment was deleted for some reason so I'll rephrase it. It's ironic that you imply that I would be convinced something like that is acceptable if society deemed it so. I know it's immoral because its harm is apparent. You, however, I can imagine gladly accepting it if your holy book said that it was good. Your morality doesn't involve your thought process at all. You just read some ancient writings, and boom, there's your morality. And that's led you to seeing something amoral, something completely harmless, as morally wrong. How sad.
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  65. As long as "what Christianity really is" keeps disrespecting LGBTQ+ people, I don't mind others disrespecting it in return.
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  66.  @nicholasgee9127  Marriage is a social construct that humans came up with, and that has changed constantly throughout history.
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  67. The Ghost of Mischief and Stolen Socks is real I will not elaborate further
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  68. You really shouldn't be encouraging internalized homophobia.
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  69. I'm glad we're in the age where people are leaving bronze age mythology behind and LGBTQ+ rights are supported by the majority of people.
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  70. There's literally no kind way to say this. It's inherently a very cruel thing to say.
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  71. Being a conservative conflicts with spreading truth, kindness, respect, and love.
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  72. Imagine being vehemently against taking care of the sick lmao
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  73. Sin is meaningless and progress is necessary.
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  74.  @ariaurre  Talking to Megatronix is a waste of time. They've been here before under different usernames and they have a book where their brain should be.
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  75. BLM isn't about making individuals personally less racist. It's about addressing systemic racism in the police force among other institutions.
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  76. I still don't understand why an omniscient being would need to test anything in the first place.
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  77. Possibly the single most embarassing youtube account I've ever seen
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  78. Why's it sad? I think it's great that people are putting empathy and ethics before blind adherence to ancient rules, while still finding a way to get the benefits from their religious beliefs.
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  79.  @gabrielmurdoch5707  I would guess it's about how you can use your body's various holes for sex
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  80. Like they thought it is.
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  81. Arbitrarily making yourself miserable because an ancient book says "gay bad"?
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  82. How much are you guys paying for insulin again?
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  83.  @studentofthesaviors.o.s  Murder kills people. Theft deprives people of their belongings. Relationships between people of the same gender harm no one.
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  84. Assuming that your religious beliefs actually are "the truth".
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  85. Sometimes it feels like you guys actually want to be disliked, the way some of you try to gatekeep people with decent social and moral values out of your religion.
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  86.  @melissa-c4x  What I mean is that insisting that only Christian fundamentalism is "true Christianity" makes Christianity look bad. Because Christian fundamentalism is regressive and harmful.
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  87.  @melissa-c4x  Because I actually care about the world and the people in it. I want people to be treated with fairness and equality, and I want the environment to be taken care of so people can continue to live healthy lives for generations to come. Whereas fundamentalists (as far as I'm aware, correct me if I'm wrong) think humans are inherently evil, think there's something immoral about being LGBTQ+, and think taking care of the environment is meaningless because the planet will soon be abandoned in some kind of apocalyptic ascension event.
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  88. You're in no position to be accusing people of having their own little fairy tale realities.
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  89. You are a grown man who literally believes in an evil supernatural gremlin man going around messing with people's minds.
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  90.  @toglorifyGod1  I don't think you understood my last comment.
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  91. True! Christians can only be leftists. I don't make the rules.
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  92.  @robertnorris8831  Okay but being LGBTQ+ isn't a bad thing either.
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  93. Dudes can sleep with each other just fine, what are you talking about?
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  94. You absolutely can, and people have done so throughout human history.
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  95. @Çaesar Humans "created" marriage.
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  96. @Çaesar It's literally just a religious/legal/social concept that's taken many forms throughout history. I put "created" in quotation marks because it's a social construct.
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  97.  @EverydayAdam  Sure, but I never hear anyone say "there's no such thing as a conservative Christian".
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  98.  @legend-mj4gv  People hate conservatives because they make things worse, not much more to it
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  99. I can't imagine what it's like to go through life as an adult who believes in an evil supernatural bogeyman.
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  100. It's harmful that you're encouraging this behavior. Nobody should be expected to repress their sexuality when they otherwise wouldn't be hurting anyone.
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  101. Weird how you guys never say this about "conservative Christianity".
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  102.  @therealdebbiecakes  The insistence that progressive Christians aren't "real Christians" is never applied to conservative Christians.
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  103. Just microwave it for a minute
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  104. Do you think people decide to be gay?
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  105. Could be their first day on the job
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  106.  @MadelineSpecter  You believing doesn't make it real.
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  107. Source on the statue thing? Haven't heard of that one before.
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  108. What do you mean "it usually doesn't"? You do realize we've got it in Europe right now?
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  109.  @a_mustache_of_great_repute  I got a broken elbow when I was 15 and was treated after like ten minutes. This was on a busy night too, the roads had frozen over so there were a lot of people with fractures. No debt, no wait. People may not be refused treatment, but the huge medical debt will cause poor people to avoid seeking medical help if they need it, because they can't pay the bill. That is unacceptable.
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  110. It's changed quite a bit throughout history.
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  111.  @darth3911  Ancient humans writing their mythology thought being gay was wrong. They were incorrect, and so are you.
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  112. You guys sure love the word "flesh". You realize that's what we're made of, right? Like it or not, we're all just wrinkly meatballs in a spooky skull. LGBTQ+ people don't need to be "saved" from their "sin", either.
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  113.  @Mic1904  But how do you actually know it's "god-breathed"? Couldn't someone in the distant future who doesn't know about how the book was written hold the belief that Fifty Shades was the words of a god?
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  114. How do you know?
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  115.  @shq_main2853  Your sexuality is defined by who you're attracted to, not by who you choose to date or sleep with. Nobody chooses who they're attracted to. Otherwise, why would people decide to be gay in deeply homophobic parts of the world?
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  116. Demons aren't real
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  117. You make it sound like pregnancy, childbirth, and motherhood should be punishments for promiscuity. What a disgusting notion.
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  118. You're not persecuted. You're just backwards zealots trying to persecute others.
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  119. No, as an atheist I really mostly hate the conservative ones.
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  120. Love between people of the same gender harms literally no one.
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  121. How do you know?
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  122. Sounds like you shouldn't be a Christian then. Good thing there's actually plenty of progressive Christians though, or your religion's reputation would be way worse.
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  123. No, he only tells you to sacrifice your child on an altar and then goes "it was just a prank, bro!" in order to win a bet.
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  124. He wouldn't be choosing that if it weren't for external pressures.
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  125. I might agree that the "lukewarm Christians" as you call them are technically worse at being Christians, but they're better at being decent human beings.
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  126. A room can have black walls, a black floor, and a black ceiling and be lit.
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  127. Wow, the brain worms really got to this one. Jesus Christ.
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  128. "Look, you may think he's unhappy because he got brainwashed to believe that there's something morally wrong with him being gay, even though it harms literally no one, but look, our holy book says he's fine!!!"
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  129.  @hannahbthatsme  What if there is no "eternity" and these people are pressured into celibacy for something that doesn't actually exist? I think people should live the life they know they have to the fullest instead of sacrificing their happiness for some hypothetical afterparty that there's no demonstrable evidence for.
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  130.  @hannahbthatsme  People don't hold religious beliefs "just to be safe", that's ludicrous. I can't force myself to believe this stuff just to avoid a hypothetical eternal torture world. I need demonstrable evidence, or I won't be convinced. All I'd be able to do is pretend. Also, Pascal's Wager (the argument you just presented) fails to account for other religions. What if Hellenism is right and idolatry is punished more harshly than mere unbelief? You'd be thrown into Tartarus while I would be better off in Asphodel. And what's depressing is seeing people depriving themselves of love because their religious beliefs told them to. I'm not living for nothing, I'm living this life for this life. Not for something I believe comes afterwards.
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  131.  @hannahbthatsme  How has it been proven to you, if you don't mind me asking?
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  132.  @hellokitty10117  It isn't. Nobody chooses who they're attracted to.
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  133. Pretty ironic comment. "Teach your children that your religion is the absolute truth before their brains have grown the capacity to think critically, or they could get brainwashed!"
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  134. Yeah, how dare people think instead of just quoting a book.
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  135. "Progressive demons"? What the fuck are you even talking about
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  136. Then you don't actually care about poor people getting healthcare, because charity alone absolutely does not cut it.
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  137. Homophobic conspiracy theorist.
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  138. I don't fit through there anymore
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  139. They wouldn't really be able to find out they were wrong at that point. They'd blissfully fade away into nothingness, expecting to wake up in paradise. Only to never wake up.
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  140. Who are you to tell God what he can and can't do?
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  141. I still have no idea why anyone thinks he is worth listening to. Not only is he an irrational zealot but a dishonest one as well.
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  142.  @adriana12995  By "destroying the nuclear family" do you think they want to make it illegal to be a family or something? Like, I keep seeing that phrase repeated without context. I looked into it and they're in favor of getting rid of the "nuclear family" as the norm of a family unit, and including more family members to be involved in each other's lives, and that family can go beyond the people you're biologically related to. How is that a bad thing? Here's the full quote: "We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and ‘villages’ that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable,” In a world where the socioeconomic reality of many people lead to parents working constantly to make enough money to support their family, do we really want to cling to this concept of a nuclear family?
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  143. Discipline is generally a good thing. Forcing yourself to be abstinent because a religion demands it is harmful.
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  144.  @john-lukecunningham2932  Why would a god use a book? Anyone could write a book. If there's a god who wants people to believe, surely he could do something more impressive.
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  145. The one that isn't an irrational homophobe.
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  146.  @JH324  If you look at two consenting adults in love and see an "abomination", that's pretty irrational and hateful.
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  147.  @JH324  Give me this God person's email and I will. In the meantime, there's still nothing wrong with being gay.
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  148.  @josephokwute4830  It's an umbrella term containing gay people, bi people, trans people, etc. And no, they're not evil. They're not harming anyone by loving people of the same gender. And marriage is a social construct made by humans.
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  149.  @josephokwute4830  The fact that your religion says it's evil doesn't mean it is.
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  150. It's better.
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  151. Then you probably shouldn't be a Christian
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  152.  @warriorandchildofgod2425  The "you know deep down!!!" argument (if you can even call it one) is so dishonest. As if you know more about our beliefs than we do.
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  153. Marxism seems like something Jesus might be into. I can't really imagine him as a capitalist.
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  154. Weird how it conflicts with science so much then.
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  155. @Barislav Lmao, don't act like I don't know who this is.
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  156.  @ethanfenton7329  Of course we can. Ancient humans created it to reflect their ideas, why wouldn't we be able to change it?
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  157. How the heck is it not a religion just like Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, et cetera? It's a set of supernatural beliefs involving a god, rules, traditions, you name it. It meets the definition.
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  158. I have no reason to believe any religions are correct, but progressive Christianity is at least far less harmful than conservative Christianity.
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  159.  @nelsonr1467  Like I said, a less harmful version.
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  160. Why are you encouraging that incredibly unhealthy behavior? I mean he's free to do what he wants of course, but it seems pretty clear that he's a gay man who's been convinced that he has to act as if that part of himself doesn't exist, for religious reasons.
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  161. "Don't think about morality, just believe book!"
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  162. @Çaesar Don't you have any homophobic slurs to post? Or did you get all of that out of your system on your previous three YouTube accounts?
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  163. Wow, the bible sounds kind of shitty.
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  164. "Okay, when should I reveal my existence to people? In about two thousand years when events can be recorded through video and shared around the world in mere moments? Nah, now's fine, oral tradition and writings are more than enough."
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  165. What you consider ruining, others consider improving.
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  166. You're right, the progressives make more sense
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  167. I'm pretty sure what we consider to be "the bible" today has gone through many revisions.
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  168. What's really dangerous is people who believe every word of an ancient book, and don't think critically about it or apply morality to it at all.
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  169.  @Vnm-sh1jv  History books are written by contemporary historians who research history for a living. The bible was written by unknown authors in the bronze age and makes supernatural claims that have not met their burden of proof. And I didn't say anything about "applying the bible". I said applying morality to the bible. As in actually thinking "hey, is what this book is telling me to do actually moral?"
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  170.  @Vnm-sh1jv  Sure, historical accounts will never be completely reliable and objective. But they're more reliable than ancient supernatural claims that are lacking in demonstrable evidence.
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  171.  @harbour08  And? I don't care if a religion labels something as "sin". Being openly gay harms absolutely no one. There's no rational reason to be against it.
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  172. Being a gay man with internalized homophobia is far from "what's best".
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  173. Sounds kinky.
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  174. Weird how there's a correlation between religiosity and having backwards and harmful social views
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  175.  @john-lukecunningham2932  No one. Because it's not real.
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  176. I do love it, yes. Religion changing to fit the times is highly preferable to people clinging to bronze age morality.
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  177. You can tell an "unborn baby" (fetus) whatever the hell you want, they don't understand it And yeah, a grown person's life is probably more important than that of a fetus
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  178. It's so wild to me that there's adults who literally believe in like a real life Team Rocket. This like omnipresent villain who's always up to no good. Every day you're looking around making sure they're not about to steal your Pikachu.
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  179. Based
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  180. If this Jesus guy likes me so much, why can't he come tell me himself? Why is there always this "my friend likes you" high school nonsense involved?
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  181. Race, sexuality, and gender are all things that you don't choose for yourself.
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  182. Calling something the truth doesn't make it true. Happy new year.
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  183. Someone's sexuality is part of that person. You hate part of them.
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  184. It's changed plenty over the years. Christianity in its many flavors is an offshoot of Judaism, which itself is an offshoot off Ancient Canaanite polytheism. To look at Christianity as this eternal unchanging thing is simply wrong.
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  185. Don't know why Youtube sees it fit to keep deleting my replies. Anyway, being gay is fine because it doesn't harm anyone. If you want to say it's "not okay", demonstrate that it harms others.
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  186. @Hong Kong You're being deliberately obtuse. Why are you such a grimy little troll?
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  187.  @mattfx324  What's there to "not approve of" or "not accept" about being gay?
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  188. Oh damn, if it says in the book that a god made it then it must be true
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  189. What if the gospel is also human?
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  190. In that case you probably shouldn't be a Christian.
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  191.  @JH324  Because progressivism is greatly preferable to clinging on to ancient traditions and ideas of morality in terms of maximizing human happiness and well being.
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  192. @Çaesar You keep showing over and over that you don't understand what "proving" means.
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  193. @Çaesar No. It's a waste of time with you. I believe your mind may be permanently broken somehow, doomed to forever be an insufferable bigoted zealot.
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  194. "Actually, we should not improve society, as it will make my deity really upset!"
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  195. Then don't be a Christian.
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  196.  @studentofthesaviors.o.s  Pretty sure Jesus was Jewish, not Christian
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  197. So you destroy someone who wants to mass murder LGBTQ+ people?
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  198. But hell isn't real.
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  199.  @xQz00  But they're not.
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  200.  @xQz00  There's no eternal retirement home in the clouds and there's no everlasting torture cave.
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  201.  @xQz00  Sounds like you weren't actually an "unbeliever" then
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  202. Okay? People do die during childbirth though, even if your mother didn't. She made the choice of risking her life, shouldn't others have that choice?
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  203. Dangerous? To who? Seems to me like it's the conservative ones whose ideas are harmful.
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  204.  @ddd333-p1i  Or he won't be.
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  205.  @ddd333-p1i  Promises can be broken.
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  206.  @ddd333-p1i  You're assuming that it's a god who made the promise. Seems human to me. Humans write books and make predictions and that sort of thing, never seen a case where a non-human thing did that. By the way, why do you keep liking your own comments?
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  207.  @ddd333-p1i  You know? How exactly?
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  208. If you think "white privilege" is anything like original sin, you don't understand what it means.
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  209. That's silly. Let people divorce.
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  210. True! Only leftists are true Christians.
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  211. I don't know but why are you opposing a sexual orientation that harms literally no one?
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  212. Incorrect
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  213.  @brucewayne3074  Nick took too many pills
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  214. Pretty sure the bible's changed plenty
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  215. Sounds like this book is a bad influence.
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  216.  @theemissary1433  Turning people more conservative sounds like a bad thing to me. And calling something "the truth" doesn't make it true.
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  217.  @theemissary1433  Uhuh, okay. Have a good one.
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  218. Stealing is generally wrong. It deprives someone else of what is theirs. But who is actually harmed by someone being gay? There's nothing wrong with it. It's amoral.
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  219.  @JS-ny5yn  Still nothing wrong with being gay.
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  220.  @JS-ny5yn  Well then maybe you shouldn't either, if it's leading you to see a completely harmless thing as something bad.
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  221.  @jadenthiviyan1271  Your arguments are fallacious. There is no demonstrable evidence for theism.
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  222. @Megatronix I thought I told you not to talk to me.
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  223. @Megatronix Next time you get banned, do everyone a favor and don't make another account.
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  224. Right? Seems weird that the dude who allegedly made life itself can't write a book.
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  225. The definition of "holier-than-thou".
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  226. Prove hell exists.
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  227.  @justinromero5331  Prove that.
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  228.  @justinromero5331  Prove that I'll experience hell once I die.
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  229.  @justinromero5331  But you can't prove that's the case. It's just another claim. And I'm obviously not going to die just to debunk your claim.
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  230.  @justinromero5331  Not gonna let you ask me that when you haven't proved that hell exists yet, and I haven't even made the claim to you that hell doesn't exist. Come on now.
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  231.  @justinromero5331  You're alive, right? How are you so sure that it's there?
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  232.  Rrrr Pppp  I thought you weren't a Christian.
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  233. Why?
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  234. It's dangerous to ChristoFascism maybe. And that's why progressive Christianity is necessary.
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  235. Unless it was written by humans in the first place.
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  236. And what's the point of this anecdote?
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  237. @Çaesar Thursday is based off of Thor, and you think the Norse gods didn't exist? Hahahaha. How delusional.
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  238.  @derekwang7330  Sure, if acting on them were to cause harm.
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  239.  @derekwang7330  Is that a serious question? I would hope that you know how to do that. If I sat you down at a table with two plates, one with a sandwich and one with a small pile of tiny batteries, would you know which one you shouldn't eat?
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  240. But why? Being in a relationship with a consenting adult of the same gender harms literally no one.
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  241.  @nextbigthing2917  "Goes against biology"? They're literally a product of biology.
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  242.  @nextbigthing2917  I know what you mean and I absolutely disagree.
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  243. "The act"? What act is that?
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  244.  @xavionsupermanlife8639  And I hope that one day you can let go of ancient mythology.
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  245.  @natural_immunityis_science7943  Nice try, but if I look into my heart I'll die because I need that thing to keep pumping my blood.
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  246. Yeah right, so literally everyone's parents are in on this grand conspiracy? Who drinks the milk, dummy?
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  247. Sounds like a self-fulfilling prophecy to me.
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  248. There are good people, and zealots who cling to morals from the bronze age don't tend to be it.
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  249. He's perfect? I wouldn't say that, he tried making an animal that looked like him and he's had his hands full with all the problems resulting from that little experiment. Had to drown the whole planet at one point.
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  250.  @JJustJ-yb9wh  How does a perfect being create an imperfect creation? Sounds like he messed up to me.
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  251.  @JJustJ-yb9wh  A perfect creator would create perfect creations. Or are you saying it was his intention to make an inherently flawed species? Did he just want an excuse to drown his whole planet?
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  252. It's absolutely true that if you're anti-LGBTQ+ there's something wrong with you, though.
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  253. Just say you're a homophobe and move on.
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  254.  @tys.1890  It's like looking at a left-handed person and saying "I don't agree with how you hold a pen".
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  255. It's sad how people still act like there's anything wrong with being gay because an ancient book told them so.
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  256. I legitimately do not understand how grown adults believe in things like demons and fire lakes where ghosts are set on fire or something. Like, fire is a chemical process that burns fuel, it's not a substance you can fill a lake with
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  257. @Çaesar Why didn't god know what lava is? Didn't he supposedly make it himself?
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  258. There is no hole.
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  259.  @s.k4585  Show me demonstrable evidence of the hole.
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  260. True! Because no such thing exists.
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  261. Jesus christ that profile pic is a whole lot of cringe lmao
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  262. "Terrible horrible awful things"?
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  263.  @JK-om1ry  "Supporting the downfall of society"? What?
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  264.  @JK-om1ry  Society isn't going to be destroyed because trans people exist, JK.
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  265. Sounds like this Satan character is pretty cool
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  266.  @thespeedyyoshi  If you can't actually say what makes something bad, I don't think you can say it's bad.
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  267. Why would you consider a fetus to be a human being in the same sense as you and me?
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  268.  @cassandragarcia5548  I'm sorry, which human beings were you referring to then?
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  269. And who decides what verses make it into the bible?
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  270.  @toglorifyGod1  Allegedly...
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  271.  @toglorifyGod1  Humans can be mistaken about gods.
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  272. Your ancient cult can adapt to the changes in society or it can fade into obscurity. Both of those options are fine with me.
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  273. @Çaesar Oh, now you think morality is all about harm all of a sudden.
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  274. The bible is a product of the world.
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  275.  @robertnorris8831  But it's not. It harms absolutely no one.
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  276.  @robertnorris8831  Sounds more like one individual's opinion than morality. So we should tell people not to be gay because someone doesn't like it, despite it being harmless? The only consequences seem to be this alleged deity's punishment.
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  277.  @MichaelTarrenScott  "There is no such thing as an atheist"? Now you're just being dishonest.
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  278. Good. I'm fully in favor of the bible being turned into something less harmful.
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  279. There's literally nothing wrong with being gay.
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  280.  @jessicawest4515  If the stories are to be believed, he literally wiped out all life on the planet, save for one boat full of animals and one human family.
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  281. How do you know this deity "spoke through Paul"? How did that work? Did he mind control the guy? Have we scientifically identified the mechanisms through which this deity compels people to write stuff for him? Why does an all-powerful god need humans to write stuff down for him in the first place?
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  282. "Read with an open mind" seems to imply that people who aren't convinced are "closed-minded". My mind is open to being convinced, just not extra open. Just like any other claim, there needs to be demonstrable evidence. Also, since I feel like you're hinting at this topic, there's nothing wrong whatsoever with being LGBTQ+.
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  283. It's like you people are trying to make Christianity look bad by insisting only the bigoted ones are "real Christians".
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  284. @Konstantini All religion is false religion. Yours is not special.
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  285.  @madison.harris  How do you know they were "inspired by God"? There's no way for you to possibly know such a thing.
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  286.  @madison.harris  Still doesn't lead to the conclusion that a god must have "inspired" it. People can make stories fit. People can make predictions come troo when they've got access to said predictions.
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  287. @Aer Lingus Being attracted to someone of the same gender isn't a problem.
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  288.  @keanureeves3273  There's no such thing as an "authentic religion".
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  289. Why are you trying to make Christianity look bad?
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  290.  @o.o7299  How do you know?
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  291.  @o.o7299  How could you possibly determine such a thing?
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  292.  @o.o7299  Self-fulfilling prophecies are a thing. As is making things up. Both of which require far fewer assumptions than using a god as an explanation for prophecy.
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  293. This is an insane thing to believe.
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  294. Is he, though?
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  295. Does he hate himself?
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  296.  @jasondiaz2491  Oh actually I can see ripples too so I can do whatever I want, thank you for understanding Kinda weird that you think it's cool to mass murder kids though
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  297. They will.
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  298. Being gay harms literally no one. To say it's "not okay" is irrational.
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  299. Good, it's gonna be a superior version of the bible
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  300. Got any demonstrable evidence for that claim?
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  301. You can literally just do that though. Nobody's stopping you.
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  302. Your chosen deity is wrong about gay marriage.
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  303. @Çaesar Because it's a social construct, and humans make those by definition.
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  304. Hi, I have a book written by Huge Kevin. It says in the book that Huge Kevin is perfect, so the book is perfect too. I am very smart
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  305. @Çaesar It's circular.
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  306. @Çaesar Nah, there isn't.
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  307.  Purify  That's because people who eat pork aren't discriminated against the way LGBTQ+ folks are.
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  308.  @Jesusjustifies  Fear can certainly help us avoid danger. But fearing something that isn't real doesn't serve any purpose.
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  309.  @Jesusjustifies  I don't convince myself of anything. Theists simply haven't convinced me that there is a danger.
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  310. Why would they do that? I'm an atheist and I don't really care if a religious person is inconsistent about their religion, what's more important to me is if their ideas are harmful. A progressive Christian is much better than a conservative zealot who clings to every word of an ancient book.
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  311.  @iffymarashi7700  It sounds like mythology to me, no different than the stories of the Ancient Greeks for example. People who want to claim otherwise should have considerable evidence if they want to convince anyone, Which, surely an omnipotent deity would be able to produce for them effortlessly.
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  312.  @iffymarashi7700  Even if, for the sake of argument, you accept all of these claims, how exactly does that lead to "Jesus literally came back to life and is the physical embodiment of a deity who literally created the universe"? All you would prove is that there's people claiming things and that there's an empty cave. The argument isn't valid.
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  313.  @iffymarashi7700  Your copy and pasted wall of text feels like you ignored my last comment completely.
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  314.  @iffymarashi7700  I'm 28 years old, don't be condescending. It's unbecoming.
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  315. Being a gay person who arbitrarily stays celibate isn't "good fruits".
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  316.  @joszsz  People aren't "spiritually transformed" to another sexuality, and the notion that they can be is extremely harmful.
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  317.  @legend-mj4gv  Sin is a meaningless concept to people outside your religion
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  318. So arbitrary suffering is the point?
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  319.  lordivalimartti5210  Why?
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  320. Being gay isn't something anyone needs to "overcome" though.
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  321.  @pandayonn6053  And this is why I don't like religion.
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  322.  @pandayonn6053  How do you actually know it's "the truth" though?
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  323.  @pandayonn6053  Your mental state changing because you adopted religious beliefs doesn't really prove that those religious beliefs are true. That's not exclusive to Christianity.
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  324. Sounds like this god is an irrational bigot who wants to murder people who aren't harming anyone.
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  325.  @bennywolfe4357  Not at all. You, on the other hand, were brainwashed to believe the harmless act of being in a consenting romantic and/or sexual relationship with an individual of the same gender is something immoral. Going so far as to say they "deserve death". Hope you're not planning any hate crimes there, Ben.
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  326.  @bennywolfe4357  I'm sorry you get your morals from ancient mythology too.
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  327.  @bennywolfe4357  Sounds like a pretty awful book to me then.
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  328. He's a victim of a regressive and oppressive ideology that irrationally forbids love between people of the same gender.
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  329. Christians who give religion a place in their lives and don't go overboard I can agree with to some degree. But people like you just seem like completely unreasonable zealots.
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  330. You say that like it's a new thing.
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  331. Hating someone's sexuality is hating part of them.
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  332. Why's that?
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  333. Maybe we're not as "incredibly accepting" as you think.
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  334.  @leftwingersareweak  Jazeker.
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  335. Christianity in general doesn't make a whole lot of logical sense. But the progressive variant is still highly preferable for its outcomes.
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  336.  @alexmcginnis1  Here's how: Science: - Based on demonstrable evidence and peer review. - Scientific theories change when new evidence is discovered. - By far the most reliable pathway to beliefs that actually conform with reality. Christianity: - Based on stories written down by ancient humans thousands of years ago. - Said stories contain supernatural elements that are not able to be seen or replicated in reality. - Many of these supernatural elements directly contradict observable science.
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  337. A god with both of those attributes would never create a hell.
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  338. Hey! If you're seeing this, I want you to know that Zeus demands tribute at his temple. Bring some of your livestock and slaughter it in his name, or be cast into the dark depths of Hades!
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  339. Christianity has been doing that for a long time. Why do you think it's still around? Do you really think it hasn't changed for thousands of years?
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  340. As a leftist, I would never take away your freedom to believe what you want. I do, however, despise religion and hope that we as a species rid ourselves of it soon through teaching critical thinking in education.
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  341.  @nathanielm.h.7360  How so?
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  342.  @TheMrLeoniasty  Wait, even the babies and toddlers who drowned were wicked?
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  343. Sounds like tyranny.
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  344. Pretty sure they're all humans
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  345. "bOoK sAyS nO"
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  346. What a terrible notion.
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  347. Ironic username
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  348. Advice like that is one of the reasons why the world is messed up.
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  349. Hell yeah I love Earthbound
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  350. What cities were burned down?
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  351. No, I get mad about homophobic takes like that because not only are they not based on the real world, they're also harmful. LGBTQ+ people have only fairly recently started being treated humanely and still we have bible thumpers like yourself saying "iT's WrOnG".
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  352.  @lolcopexx  You have a strange, warped view of morality.
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  353. Oh, lay an egg
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  354. @Zoomer Enlightenment No one's going to hell. Because it literally doesn't exist.
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  355. It's your ideology that's dangerous.
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  356. So there's spooky gay ghosts making people gay?
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  357.  @a_mustache_of_great_repute  How's that?
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  358. I hope he marries a wonderful man someday
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  359. But it literally is
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  360. Lmao, an unironic Shapiro fan
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  361.  @Will-ip8og  Kind of embarassing
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  362. That's unfortunate.
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  363. Sounds awful
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  364. No
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  365.  @chtc.jovani  Imagine thinking that the big bang literally describes an explosion in the same sense we know them on earth. Or that poking holes in the big bang theory does anything to demonstrate that a god exists.
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  366. I'm sorry can you repeat that I didn't hear you the first seven times
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  367.  @adriel115_  Why would it depend on what I believe?
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  368. That's right, only socialists can be true Christians.
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  369. It is terrible if someone denies their sexuality because an ancient collection of stories says there's something wrong with it.
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  370. You mean people disagree with what your religion calls "right" and "wrong".
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  371.  @tywinters4352  You think lying and infidelity is a new thing??? And no, Christians aren't some oppressed victim group, and the fact that you feel like they are isn't evidence that they're "tElLiNg ThE tRuTh". Christianity has dominated Europe and the US for centuries and their influence has finally waned.
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  372.  @tywinters4352  And what is that supposed to mean to me exactly? I don't have any reason to believe the claims that are made in the bible.
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  373.  @tywinters4352  Really dude, I'm not interested in the sales pitch.
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  374.  @rambo_4_christ7  You realize gay people aren't infertile right? Plenty of same-gender couples have kids either through adoption or sperm donors. If the last two people on the earth were gay, as long as they weren't of the same sex, they could totally still make kids. I'd worry about the incestuous implications of the next generation though.
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  375.  @rambo_4_christ7  What point? Two straight dudes can't carry on the species either. What's the point of this hypothetical anyway? We've got a lot more than two people on the planet.
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  376. Liberals aren't left wing.
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  377. It is, though. You're not space aliens.
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  378. Is it? The world demonstrably exists.
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  379. I mean, I'd prefer if they were fellow atheists. But a progressive Christian is still a lot better than a far right zealot.
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  380.  @jadenphilander8799  I don't see that as a good thing.
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  381.  @jadenphilander8799  It hasn't been demonstrated that your religious beliefs are, in fact, "the truth".
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  382.  @kobejohnson4103  Intersex people exist, you know.
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  383. Worse in what respect?
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  384. "Nooo you're supposed to do what makes you unhappy!"
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  385. What a vile thing to say.
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  386.  @gochieie4223  But you literally don't know if that everlasting life is even there. There's no demonstrable evidence for that. You believe it, but you may very well be wrong. And then you'll have skipped the only meal you were getting, just because you thought there'd be a giant tub of ice cream afterwards.
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  387.  @gochieie4223  You know it's real? How? Dreams? Feelings? You know those aren't exactly reliable evidence, right?
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  388.  @gochieie4223  I don't think "feeling a presence" is a good enough basis to accept a claim as wild as "there's an intangible, invisible, all-knowing sentient deity who created the universe".
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  389. Maybe it's just being figurative when it states that a god exists?
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  390. He's a real brainwashed zealot with internalized homophobia.
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  391. This just makes me sad.
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  392. Good
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  393.  @nicholasgee9127  A car crash is a consequence of foolish actions while driving, that doesn't mean we don't give car crash victims medical attention.
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  394.  @nicholasgee9127  Aborting a fetus =/= murdering a baby.
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  395.  @nicholasgee9127  A developing fetus is obviously not the same thing as an infant. Don't be obtuse.
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  396.  @vivigi6727  Adam and Eve never existed.
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  397. Damn that sounds manipulative as hell. Imagine if your partner said that to you.
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  398. There's no such thing as a Christian, they're just someone who isn't following Canaanite polytheism and is just picking one of the gods from it to worship.
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  399. But they shouldn't be forced to by the government.
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  400.  @ElizabethTattoos  You talk as if people don't actually die during childbirth. As if life threatening situations don't actually threaten life. This is survivorship bias.
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  401. There's literally nothing wrong between consensual relationships between two people of the same gender. Being gay isn't some kind of temporary and arbitrary curse that gets lifted after you die. It's part of who you are. And you don't even know if there's a "soul" to last after you die. You could be wasting the only chance at love you have for some reward that you might not even get! How crazy is that?
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  402.  @greenergrass4060  How is it wrong?
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  403.  @eastlakefilms9407  Except for when he himself wipes out all life on the planet, apparently.
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  404.  @rubenmcrae6666  Thanks for the non-answer, I guess.
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  405.  @rubenmcrae6666  So you're openly in favor of LGBTQ+ genocide? Am I understanding you right?
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  406. "Societal statistics show that same sex marriage is bad for people bad for children bad for society and self-destructive" Source?
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  407. I dunno, I'm not really into the human sacrifice thing.
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  408. No she won't be, because she'll lack the ability to be disappointed or experience any other emotion
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  409.  @tylervelasquez5639  This one does not. There is no hell.
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  410.  @tylervelasquez5639  Mental illness is a possibility. Or they're just acting. Both of those seem far more likely than demons existing and crawling into people's heads or however it's supposed to work.
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  411.  @tylervelasquez5639  I don't.
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  412.  @tylervelasquez5639  Maybe there isn't one. An objective one, anyway. I feel like "points" are something that we as humans just care about, it doesn't necessarily mean the universe has one for us.
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  413.  @tylervelasquez5639  Well that's not true. I'm no different than any other human in the fact that I was born here and want to live a happy life. In that sense, I can be conscious of how my actions affect other people, and change my behavior so that no one is harmed by my actions. That's essentially what morality is, agreed upon behavior within a group of people that promotes their general well-being. We label actions are morally good or bad depending on how they affect people, though it's often not a simple affair, which is why moral philosophy is a thing. As for everything we do being worthless, I don't agree at all. If you'd say it was ultimately worthless I'd agree, but we as humans give things worth. If we value things like happiness and freedom, actions that make people happy and free are worthwhile. I hope this made sense, I think I rambled a bit.
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  414. You don't think it's even a little bit shitty that you're contributing to a culture that's pressuring this guy to keep himself in the closet?
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  415.  @hannahbthatsme  No offense but to me those sound like coincidences. How do you know a god had anything to do with those?
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  416.  @hannahbthatsme  I know they were just a handful of examples but I figure they must be good ones or you wouldn't mention them. I just don't really see how something like that is a miracle. And I really don't see how experiences like those are enough to support anti-LGBTQ+ views. Do you really feel comfortable telling gay people to not seek a partner and to just stay alone their entire lives because these events happened to you?
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  417. Hell yeah comrade, I don't believe in hell but conservatives are going there
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  418. @الله طيب It doesn't
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  419. I know it the same way I know there's no burglars in my house with sci-fi invisibility gadgets, or unicorns on the moon. I can't claim to know with absolute certainty, but, like, come on. It's just kind of a ridiculous premise with zero demonstrable evidence going for it. To say it "may very well exist" you'd have to show that it's at least feasible. And the concept of a fiery torture world for dead people goes against everything we know about the human brain.
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  420. You do know what being "hot for" someone means colloquially, right?
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  421.  @jesusislord18  I'm saying it means being horny for Jesus. And I think that's quite funny, as Christians tend to portray "God's love" more platonically.
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  422. "Don't think, just believe."
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  423.  @kaseyjbrown  Nope, not me. I don't believe in any of that stuff. I just think skepticism is a good thing and blindly believing is not.
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  424. I despise religion, but I'll take progressive believers over conservatives any day. I don't know if humanity will ever get rid of its tendency to adopt irrational and harmful beliefs.
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  425. They never mentioned the gremlins and goblins either
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  426.  @ea.charles9176  You don't need a "higher power" for morality, the notion that you do is a religious one. We have morality simply because we're a social species and as such we're inclined to want to be kind to each other and not harm each other. As for where a person gets "their morality" from, that depends on their moral philosophy. Also, quick correction, atheism isn't a religion.
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  427. Who is this supposed to convince exactly? Do you think people are gonna turn Christian because you yelled at them to repent and believe?
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  428.  @karenicecreamcake9445  Sounds like your history teacher was laughably ignorant
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  429. Wow, this god sounds like a big baby
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  430.  @Bz23718  I don't worship anyone or anything.
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  431. Why would you believe in hell though?
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  432. Hi, I'm a vessel for the Lord too. Being gay is fine actually.
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  433. Well I didn't vote for him.
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  434. Progressives value wealth above all else? What are you even talking about?
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  435.  @crt8355  Well yeah, because they're corporations. Not because they're progressive. Because like you said, they aren't really progressive, they just support what'll make them the most money.
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  436.  @crt8355  It makes them capitalistic, not progressive. If popular opinion was conservative, they'd support conservative ideas.
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  437. I feel bad for Angel. No one should feel pressured to put themselves in the closet.
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  438.  @sharonbackforschool5145  Care to elaborate? Because it sounds extremely silly.
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  439. I've never understood this, though. Why would a being who is capable of literally anything demand blind belief as the sole requirement? Does he just want to fill heaven with gullible people?
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  440. Sounds like the same thing to me.
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  441. The standard is always mankind. Because this god is an invention of mankind, an amalgamation of bronze age human ideas. You're not rejecting mankind's standards, you're clinging to ancient mankind's standards. That's the way I see it, anyway.
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  442. The Christians of old made their own god already, so why can't they? Doesn't seem fair to me.
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  443. Sounds like they missed that when they wrote it then
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  444.  @gia7650  How do you know?
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  445.  @gia7650  But how do you actually know that's the truth?
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  446.  @gia7650  How do you know?
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  447. There is nothing "immoral" about consensual sex outside of a hetero marriage.
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  448. Christianity is so misanthropic.
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  449. You're gonna tell God what he can or can't tell people?
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  450. She seems like a far, far better person than all these self-proclaimed "true Christians".
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  451. There's literally no good reason to be struggling with it.
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  452.  @genesisgarcia1412  There's nothing wrong with being gay. It harms no one. There's no reason to not let gay folks have romantic relationships with one another. And yet this ancient book says that people who are gay must be something else. Hence the unnecessary struggle.
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  453.  @genesisgarcia1412  I don't really care about what's "sinful", it's an arbitrary label to me. Something is wrong if it causes harm, not if someone just told you so.
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  454.  @genesisgarcia1412  My parents created me, they love me and support me, but sometimes they're just wrong about something. I don't believe in your god, but if he exists, he's wrong about this.
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  455. The idea that being gay is someting to "deny" or "set aside" is extremely fucked up.
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  456.  @derekwang7330  I do not care about what's "sinful".
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  457.  @derekwang7330  And the "natural tendency" to fall in love with another consenting adult of the same gender has no rational reason not to be acted upon if that's what someone wants to do.
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  458. Lakes are made of water ya dingus
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  459. @Beardsman So hell is a volcano then?
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  460. @Beardsman When people refer to volcanoes they usually call them volcanoes, not lakes. A "lake of fire" appears to be a purely religious concept (and a Meat Puppets song). But is this whole religion centered around the ancient practice of just tossing wrongdoers into an actual active volcano, then?
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  461. That's as disgusting as it is insane.
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  462. You're all of the world. That's where your religion came from.
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  463. "Arbitrarily making your life miserable is good, actually"
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  464. Nice
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  465. Damn that Greek dude shows up everywhere
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  466. Christianity is a religion.
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  467.  @Great_oaks_from_little_acorns  gonna cry?
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  468. There is nothing evil about being LGBTQ+.
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  469.  @josephokwute4830  There's no love involved in your irrational homophobia.
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  470. A book as old as the bible will always be viewed through other people's translations and interpretations.
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  471.  @mandi3366  Being gay isn't "wicked" and fuck you for implying otherwise.
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  472. Yeah, because the progressives aren't causing nearly as much harm with their beliefs. There's no rational reason to oppose the LGBTQ+ community, but people who cling to ancient religious beliefs find a way.
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  473.  @followerofchrist3125  MLK was a socialist
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  474. Seems to me like Jesus would've been a big ol' socialist. Wasn't he very much into helping the poor?
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  475.  @ZaneTrain92  Society does inform our morality, at least to a large degree. Christians just cling to a morality from two thousand years ago.
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  476.  @ZaneTrain92  Your morality is as human as mine.
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  477.  @ZaneTrain92  Which is still a human standard, as the people who came up with this deity endowed him with their own morals. The same way any literary character contains some of the morals of their writer(s).
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  478. I'm sorry you became a worse person
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  479. Let's not give that dishonest zealot another platform
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  480.  @jadenthiviyan1271  He certainly seems to be. I've seen multiple discussions with him and each time he misrepresents evolution, and someone explains to him how his understanding of it is not quite right. And then the next time he goes right back to his initial flawed understanding. So either he's dishonest or incapable of improving his understanding. And yes, zealotry is a bad thing. The way I see it, it's what separates the religious people who act like regular, decent people from the religious people who sacrifice their empathy and decency for complete and unquestioning obedience to their dogma. People who would actively make life worse for others if they believe it would translate to some kind of cosmic or spiritual reward.
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  481.  @jadenthiviyan1271  He's admitted that transitional fossils exist, but then attempts to frame this as not being evidence for evolution by opting to divide animals into "kinds", and then claiming there's no transitional fossils between those. He even seems to bizarrely believe that snails aren't animals. He consistently frames evolution theory as something that has massive holes and seemingly ignores people who explain to him why his criticisms don't make sense. I'd go hunt down clips from debates or interviews but I don't have time at the moment I'm afraid. As for him being a zealot, I'd say his chosen profession requires a certain amount of religious fanaticism by default. People who are moderate in their religiosity typically don't go out interviewing people in the street to produce religious videos.
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  482. @Megatronix Do not talk to me.
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  483.  @jadenthiviyan1271  Weird how the vast majority of the scientific community hasn't found those holes. Anyone who manages to debunk evolution would get a Nobel Prize for sure.
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  484. @Megatronix Do you get off on being pedantic or something?
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  485.  @jadenthiviyan1271  They'd get a nobel prize because they would have put the entire field of biology on its head. And our understanding of evolution has greatly advanced society. Without it, we shouldn't be able to develop vaccines for diseases. Also, what do you mean by "half evolved" exactly?
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  486. Seems like he never says much of anything.
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  487. If they're progressive I'd say they found a better point in there somewhere.
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  488. Oh damn the Christianity Police is here
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  489. The difference is that socialized healthcare actually works and praying to be healed does not.
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  490. It's so narrow one might even say that the way into heaven doesn't exist.
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  491.  @Kahler-B  Cool. Don't care though. Two men or two women should have the same rights as heterosexual couples, and they do.
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  492.  @Kahler-B  "God did not make man and woman" now you're talking sense
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  493.  @salvatorecetrulo4282  Spoken like someone who doesn't understand socialism or capitalism.
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  494. Why's that?
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  495. The way you describe it, being "born again" just sounds like being brainwashed.
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  496. Ew, why?
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  497. You guys sound like brainwashed zealots when you throw words like "flesh" around, you know that?
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  498. What you see as sad, I see as wonderful. Your irrational homophobia belongs in the distant past.
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  499. @Çaesar Thank you for showing up to make my point for me.
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  500. People change their gods all the time. Religion is part of culture, and culture is always in motion.
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  501. You're literally made of "flesh"
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  502. Then by your description, Christianity is harmful.
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  503. Begone, homophobe
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  504. >Meme arrows outside of Reddit
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  505. How do you know that the people writing the bible were under the influence of some kind of divine spirit? How do you know they weren't just a bunch of regular bronze age dudes?
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  506. Just say you're a homophobe and move on
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  507. Thinking about what's right and wrong is good. Blind obedience is not.
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  508.  @MM-ej5ox  In that case, I don't think anyone should be a "follower of Christ". Moral philosophy is too important to leave to an ancient book written by a very different and much less equal society. It seems to me like the "narrow path" is going to lead to generally worse outcomes. The thing is though, to me those "roads" seem flipped. It seems easy to me to just not think about morality and follow a pre-written moral code dictated by your religious beliefs. What's harder is considering the morality of your actions yourself.
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  509.  @MM-ej5ox  LGBTQ+ acceptance is only a very recent thing. For most of human history, openly supporting gay rights was extremely dangerous. And in many parts of the world it still is. I find it so odd that acceptance of LGBTQ+ people could be "terrifying". It just seems completely irrational to me.
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  510. How do you know? Paul wrote them, didn't he? How can you claim to know a god was putting those ideas in his head? Surely an all-powerful god would be able to snap his figurative fingers and summon a tome containing his word.
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  511. And then even Christianity itself is an offshoot of Judaism, which in turn is a monotheistic religion based on one god from ancient Caananite polytheism. It baffles me that people can look at the one specific chunk of contemporary religion they're exposed to and go "yup, that's the truth about the universe".
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  512. No, it literally is who you are. And there's literally no rational reason to oppose who they are or what they do.
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  513.  @Bz23718  No. And a person's sexuality isn't their entire identity, but it's part of their identity. And saying part of their identity that's harming absolutely no one is "sinful" is asinine.
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  514. Why?
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  515. There are a lot of closeted gay people.
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  516. How do you know it's "TRUTH"?
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  517.  @finchborat  If you guys hate the world so much why are you even here?
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  518.  @GloZombie_  It's not about the way they say it, it's about what they say. Shitty ideas are still shitty if they're dressed up nicely.
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  519. Why did he go about it so poorly then? If his wish is to instruct humanity and get them to change their behavior, why not make himself known? Why disseminate the information in such a way that his very existence is in question? Why have humans write a book, instead of just beaming information into everyone's brains, or writing into the sky in glowing letters?
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  520. What I've learned is that religion should go away. Hell absolutely is a joke. A fiery torture cave that no one's ever seen? What a ridiculously transparently imaginary thing. I hope you can learn to let go of these irrational beliefs.
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  521. How do you know it's the truth though?
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  522. There's nothing immoral about being gay.
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  523. It doesn't.
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  524. I can't stand zealots like you. You've replaced your brain with an ancient collection of myths.
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  525. All of it is from this world.
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  526. Which is the case.
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  527. They're better people, and that's all that matters to me.
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  528. The Christian sales pitch sounds so scammy to me, to be honest. Convincing you that you have a problem, and then selling you the solution.
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  529.  @michellemichaud4916  Of course you can pick and choose. Why wouldn't you be able to?
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  530. @MarsLand It does a very poor job at it then. You're a prime example of its failings.
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  531. You can keep your "love", reactionary cultist. Your irrational and harmful views won't get you into any afterlife, and the bittersweet thing is you won't even have the chance to realize it when it's all over.
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  532. ​ @NicklasWitte Arbitrarily making life more difficult for LGBTQ+ people is joyful and purpose filled?
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  533. Adam and Eve literally never existed.
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  534.  @briannayaneisiortiz6685  The bible's wrong about that.
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  535.  @briannayaneisiortiz6685  We know the origins of humanity, and it's not two people made from dirt and ribs. The bible directly conflicts with our evidence-based scientific understanding of the world.
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  536. He does not exist.
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  537. Maybe he just loves mass murder.
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  538. I know this isn't part of your belief system, but the bible is a product of that same world.
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  539. Let's be honest, heaven and hell aren't actually real. None of this matters.
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  540. I don't see a lot of Christians getting rid of their eyes and hands.
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  541.  @godislove4931  Well, assuming the whole "eternal life" thing is true. Otherwise you're sacrificing things in the actual life you actually do have, for nothing.
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  542. What's sad is people like you treating LGBTQ+ identities like crimes that are worthy of the worst punishment imaginable.
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  543.  @Eheee.  I don't care where the words are from, they're still awful.
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  544.  @Eheee.  Something being bigoted doesn't make it true.
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  545.  @Eheee.  I think you're the one doing that.
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  546.  @Eheee.  Why do you guys keep acting like being gay and anal sex are one and the same? You realize plenty of straight people are into butt stuff, right?
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  547. It's been changed plenty. Christianity in all its many flavors is an offshoot of Judaism, which itself is an offshoot of ancient Canaanite polytheism. Religion is as fluid as the rest of culture is.
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  548. Is that actually based on data?
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  549. damn straight, leftists only
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  550. That's how fictional characters work, isn't it? Ishmael doesn't change and neither does Moby Dick. Unless someone were to write a Moby Dick 2.
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  551.  @anintellectual4031  According to your religious beliefs. There isn't any demonstrable evidence for the Christian deity.
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  552. "noooo no you guys it was ethical ownership of another person"
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  553. Adam and Eve are fictional characters, not historical figures. And our hearts pump blood.
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  554.  @virginiaayala3631  How am I supposed to "pray with a humble heart" to something I'm not convinced is real? Can you humbly make a plea to Bigfoot in a way that is sincere? You're basically telling me that if I want evidence of any kind, I have to first just convince myself that this stuff is true. And that's not how this works.
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  555.  @joespice785  "i JuSt DoN't AgReE wItH tHeIr LiFeStYlE"
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  556.  @Vnm-sh1jv  They can believe in all of that. But it is irrational.
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  557.  @TheChurchSplit  Are you sure? That smug little comment with the winky face stinks of pride, and I thought that was a no-no for you guys.
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  558. How is this meant to convince nonbelievers exactly?
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  559.  @amartinez589  Nah I think not having faith is kinda great
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  560. Who is this meant to convince?
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  561.  @nunybznz7561  How is that a fact, though? That's just your belief. Facts are by definition demonstrable.
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  562.  @nunybznz7561  No, I don't believe that a god exists. For you to try and tell me what I believe or know is quite dishonest. Even if your favorite book asserts otherwise. In any case, you keep saying this is factual but you haven't actually demonstrated that theism is true. Saying "well who created the sky and the grass" is not demonstrable evidence for theism.
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  563.  @nunybznz7561  Historical events are accepted when the evidence for them is good enough. For many things, there's historical evidence from multiple sources that tell the same story, to the point where it not being the case is incredibly unlikely. However, Christianity's supernatural claims fly directly in the face of our scientific understanding of the world. People are not known to revive after several days of being dead. When an ancient writing says such an event occured, Occam's Razor dictates that a far more likely explanation would be that someone wimply wrote down a ficticious story. Perhaps portions of the story were true and others weren't. Maybe the person didn't actually die but was only injured. Maybe the revived person they saw was someone else. But when an ancient writing tells of something that seems impossible, we can't simply accept that it's true. It would have to be demonstrated scientifically that coming back from the dead after multiple days is possible in the first place.
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  564. Who are you to tell the allmighty creator of the universe what he would and wouldn't do?
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  565. Because he's a gay man who's locked himself in the closet with a bible.
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  566. Homosexuality does not have "painful results", what the fuck are you talking about?
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  567. I don't see the hypocrisy. Could you explain?
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  568.  @planetofkai  "BRO DID YOU REALLY ASK SOMEONE TO ELABORATE BRO LMAOOOO"
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  569.  @criminalpotato3273  People transition through hormone therapy and surgery because it makes them feel more like their authentic selves. It's not changing a core part of themselves, it's changing exterior parts to match the core parts. Your gender identity is part of who you are just as your sexuality is.
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  570. Incorrect. Nobody chooses who they're attracted to.
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  571. Killing two cities full of people sounds pretty wrong to me. Being gay on the other hand harms no one.
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  572. Why are you trying to make Christianity look bad?
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  573. The whole point of Christianity is regression?
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  574. Good. I'm glad your cult has been declawed, it's a bit less harmful now.
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  575. Does god read Youtube comments? Does he have his own account here?
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  576.  @heavenlyredrose3394  So then the comment was only performative?
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  577. Like those loud zealots need more attention.
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  578. I hope you come to your senses and stop opposing a community of people that are harming literally no one.
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  579. How do you know it is?
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  580.  JM 21  Atheism isn't a religion.
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  581.  @jonesiboybeastmode6857  are fictional.
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  582. Then your "scripture" is irrational and homophobic, and should be discarded.
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  583. Calling your religious beliefs "the truth" over and over doesn't make them true. Could be that no one's going to any hell.
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  584. Damn, sorry to hear that your beliefs got worse
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  585.  @John-rn1uw  Being gay isn't an "imperfection", and it's sad that you've let an ancient collection of stories tell you that it is. That's what I meant.
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  586.  @John-rn1uw  I'll consider listening to gods when they're proven to actually exist. Right now you're just being a homophobic because a bronze age book told you to be.
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  587.  @John-rn1uw  I don't think I'm smarter than everyone. But you should realize that smart people can still be wrong.
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  588.  @sharonbackforschool5145  Zero times, why do you ask?
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  589. There's no nice way to tell a gay person that there's something wrong with their love for their partner. Because it's just an inherently cruel thing to say.
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  590.  @rebekahyi1168  Not disappointing to me.
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  591.  @kevoxchrist2628  It is a religion, though.
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  592.  @kevoxchrist2628  Christianity meets the definition of a religion. It is one.
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  593.  @kevoxchrist2628  I understand that you can't see your religion as one because you're inside of it. You can't see it from an outside perspective. But it is a religion. The notion that Christianity is not a religion is just absurd.
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  594.  @kevoxchrist2628  Not interested in being "seeded", thanks.
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  595. How do you know, though?
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  596.  @MrProg-lq8od  Yes, I get that the book says it, but how do you actually know it's true?
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  597.  @MrProg-lq8od  No historical inaccuracies? It says that the entire population of the earth, human and animal (save for one boat's worth), was wiped out in an event where literally the entire planet was submerged in water. Besides, even if a book were to be accurately written, that doesn't demonstrate the involvement of any gods.
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  598. That's obviously not what he meant by audibly hearing a god's voice, Steve.
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  599. Who is this meant to convince exactly? Do you think people who don't believe in Christianity are just going to start believing based on this comment?
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  600. She seems pretty cool!
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  601. Assuming these myths are true, this god literally made the devil and makes no effort to stop any harmful stuff he's doing.
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  602.  @mariabou7178  So? It would still be this god's responsibility. An alligator chooses to eat a toddler but they're still gonna arrest the person that set one loose in a kindergarten.
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  603.  @ambernicolecollett  The scientific possibility of a "creator" hasn't been demonstrated. To attempt to use it to explain human existence is to try and explain a mystery by appealing to a bigger mystery.
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  604. What exactly is "not right" about being gay? It harms literally no one.
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  605. @Megatronix I was not speaking to you. However, keep posting homophobic garbage like this and this new name won't stick around long, you know.
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  606. @Megatronix It's a pity that YouTube's arcane moderation algorithms allow your homophobic garbage, but not my refutations thereof. At least your account will be gone soon, like the others before it. You might as well just save us all the trouble of doing this whole dance again and just stay gone next time.
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  607. Your "promised land" is entirely hypothetical. It makes me sad that you feel the need to deny a part of yourself for a reward that might never happen.
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  608.  @BuildingApologetics  Allegedly. What if this life is all there is? Could you imagine skipping dinner for an amazing dessert you convinced yourself was coming, but never ends up arriving?
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  609. Bigoted zealot.
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  610.  @aaronmcclure1  Have you ever recorded these conversations with like an audio recorder app on your phone or something?
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  611. See, the difference between taxpayer-funded public healthcare and charity is that the former actually works to keep the population healthy. Why do you care more about rich people staying rich than you care about poor people being healthy?
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  612. Also, what kind of puny, fragile god is hurt by two men or two women in love?
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  613. Why do you talk like a Reddit user from 2011
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  614. Hitting people is harmful, loving them is not.
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  615. It's a cult that's so old and widespread that it's been normalized.
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  616. Then the bible shouldn't be accepted.
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  617. True, because heaven literally doesn't exist
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  618. What's wrong with creating something new? Christianity was new once. As was Judaism, and the polytheistic religion Judaism sprang from.
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  619. Why is blasphemy higher on the list? Is this god really thin-skinned or something?
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  620. He should have a brother named Demon
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  621. Sounds more like a Zeus move to me
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  622.  @chtc.jovani  It's scary to me that you replace your morality with an arbitrary set of rules that you believe came from a deity. "God says X is bad so X is bad". So if tomorrow he spoke to you somehow and said murder was virtuous, you'd start killing?
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  623. Why is "sharing the gospel" the one prescribed method of "sharing truth"? Plenty of people aren't convinced by others repeating religious doctrine at them. Surely a god would be able to make a believer out of every human on the planet effortlessly.
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  624.  @hannahfaithpadinit3125  But faith is not a reliable pathway to truth. You can have faith in literally anything.
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  625. Marriage hasn't meant that for a long time now.
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  626.  @nicholasgee9127  Oh damn that sounds pretty cool too
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  627. Sure, people pay taxes because they're mandatory. But the thing is, universal healthcare works. And it exists in many European countries because people voted for politicians that promised to put that system in place. In that sense it is voluntary. So really the choice is between choosing to actually help the sick through a functioning healthcare system, or having a non-functioning healthcare system where people get to do some performative philantropy.
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  628.  @JJustJ-yb9wh  It absolutely does, I am in full favor of redistributing wealth from wealthy people to poor people. But since we're not quite there yet, you should probably get some decent public healthcare going first.
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  629. @Hong Kong So how come all of those accounts are gone? Did you just delete them yourself? Why would you possibly do that? Seems far more likely that you got banned, considering the type of comments you leave.
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  630. Hooray for blind obedience without critical thought!
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  631. Charity doesn't redistribute wealth to the degree that's required. The wealthy giving away a tiny percentage of their wealth doesn't nullify the gargantuan amount of wealth they hoard. If you support charity over taxation, you care more about the performance of generously giving money than you care about the actual well-being of the poor and sick.
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  632. Christians when the government takes money to ensure everyone has healthcare: "THIS IS WRONG! I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS!!!" Christians when private corporations take money from the working class to make more profit: "This is fine, Jesus would be a big fan of this I bet"
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  633.  @Mic1904  Where's the truck?
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  634. So letting people go bankrupt in order to get medical treatment is "Christlike"?
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  635.  @etpass8595  Angels and miracles aren't real. Healthcare is.
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  636.  @etpass8595  Let go of ancient superstitions and support policies that actually help people.
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  637. People wrote it and people can pick and choose.
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  638. I think I missed the part where you proved anything
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  639. Why do you guys love calling things "new age" so much? Isn't that something from like the 90s?
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  640. @Sergei Was it really necessary to make yet another new account, you big weirdo? How many has it been now? I've lost count.
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  641. Why are you censoring yourself?
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  642. What the fuck? How is love between people of the same gender "abuse of love"?
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  643.  @The-Azure-Knight  That's completely irrational. Two people of the same gender romantically in love aren't hurting anyone at all.
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  644.  @The-Azure-Knight  No it's not. Adults can consent, children and animals cannot. It's disturbing that you don't understand this.
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  645. You're describing the opposite of choosing life. What you're describing is denying yourself a happy life because you've been convinced, without demonstrable evidence, that there's an infinite one after this.
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  646. Yes, it's unpopular to blindly obey an ancient collection of texts in favor of actually making informed moral actions. What a shock.
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  647. How the heck did this get 6 likes in just 4 minutes
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  648.  @lotus9865  You can have faith in literally anything, whether it's actually true or not. How is that not a flaw?
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  649.  @joyven8591  Faith isn't a reliable way of knowing anything, because you can have faith in literally anything. You could have faith that the moon's made of cheese.
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  650. It's harmful that you're encouraging this.
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  651.  @ore2739  How do you know that's gonna happen?
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  652. Cool, I wouldn't want to associate with an irrational homophobe in the first place
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  653. How do you know?
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  654. Forgive them for what exactly?
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  655. Fills you with despair, doesn't it?
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  656. I don't think it's healthy to be encouraging gay people to "deal with" their sexuality by acting like there's something wrong with it.
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  657.  @gabetalks9275  There is no cliff.
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  658.  @Lebronwski  Then nobody should care about "sin". It has nothing to do with morality.
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  659.  @alicej7857  Didn't Mother Theresa believe that suffering was a good thing? I've heard some nasty stories about that lady.
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  660.  @adriana12995  What's the difference? The Judeo-Christian deity is the product of humans.
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  661.  @noellealdi881  There's no rational reason to not accept someone being gay. Their sexuality harms no one.
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  662.  @redacted8181  What you describe is called hate.
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  663.  @redacted8181  Humans are the only thing that decide whether an action is immoral or not. Religious people do this too, they just slap a "GOD" label on the ancient humans who said gay people need to have rocks thrown a them.
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  664.  @noellealdi881  Assuming for the sake of argument that the story of Sodom and Gommorah is true, it seems to me like the harmful thing demonstrated there is this mass murdering deity.
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  665.  @alicej7857  Couldn't this god have simply stopped the rape instead of leveling an entire city after the fact killing everyone, including the victim(s) of said rape?
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  666.  @alicej7857  Can't say that I have. I'm just kind of anti-destroying entire cities in general.
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  667.  @alicej7857  But the thing about omnipotence is that this god could snap their figurative fingers and turn every single person there into non-rapists. So why does he choose mass murder? Why does he murder even the kids whose only crime is having been raised in a bad environment? "There is no way to remove that wickedness"? I thought we were talking about a god here!
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