Comments by "Maksie0" (@Maksie0) on "Can Trump Supporters And Immigrants See Eye To Eye? | Middle Ground" video.

  1. But don't actually do that because the farmer will get mad
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  2. He had a crowd tear gassed so he could walk over to a church for a photo op. Suffering caused simply because he didn't want to look weak. Just one example.
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  3. It's scary to see far right populism gain popularity. I cringe when I see people supporting parties like Forum voor Democratie, that blatantly lie to sow fear about non-natives.
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  4. Oh boy I love the slippery slope argument, here let me try one We should ban eating meat, because people might eat human meat! I feel so logical, this is fun!
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  5. Well, I'm glad you've found a way to feel like a victim.
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  6. Because of his bigoted rhetoric and the fact that his administration has also made legal immigration more difficult.
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  7. What's wrong with you?
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  8.  @crate249  In that case, serial killers are the most oppressed minority in the world.
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  9.  @crate249  My point is that oppression isn't just about being treated harshly, because sometimes that harsh treatment is somewhat warranted. We isolate violent criminals from the rest of society because they're likely to harm others. And when someone expresses shitty opinions, they're likely to be criticized for it.
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  10. Trump is an embarassment to anyone who isn't a member of his cult of personality. Lecherous, blatantly narcissistic, and petty. Those qualities are always right there on the surface.
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  11. "lEgAl GoOd IlLeGaL bAd" You do realize that the distinction is arbitrary, right?
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  12. Race is a social construct. As such, we can deconstruct it.
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  13. The golden raisin look is so hot right now
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  14. That's moronic. What's wrong with flying the flag of the country you come from?
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  15.  @crate249  Lmao
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  16.  @crate249  They're not oppressed. They choose to express shitty ideas, and other people react negatively. That's not oppression. You might as well say nazis are the most oppressed minority if you want to make that argument.
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  17. Oh there's worse ones.
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  18. He is, though.
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  19. If he's not against legal immigration, why has the Trump administration been making it far more difficult to legally enter the US?
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  20. When was it "great"?
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  21.  @jmjfanss  What, are you saying he can take off his skin?
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  22. Because both Trump and his followers have said harsh and dehumanizing things about immigrants, Trump wants to build a giant wall which his followers seem to support, and the Trump administration has made legal immigration much more difficult.
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  23. But why would you?
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  24. "We have to look after ourselves, by taking resources from and radically influencing and even overthrowing the governments of other countries!"
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  25. Trump is a grifter, and this is just his greatest grift yet.
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  26. Kind of an arbitrary distinction.
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  27. So why is the Trump administration making it increasingly more difficult to legally enter the US with longer wait times and more bureaucracy?
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  28. Countries aren't houses. And the Trump administration is making it more difficult to legally enter the US.
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  29. You're right, cartels have done a lot of terrible things in Mexico. So when people decide that breaking the law is worth bringing their family to a safer place, you support ICE tracking them down, holding them in inhumane conditions, and sending them back?
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  30. Do you seriously think laws don't apply to illegal immigrants? What?
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  31. By the same logic you might as well not have affordable healthcare because someone paid through the nose for their insulin. Might as well never improve anything.
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  32.  @jaypuck6912  Analogy doesn't work, becuase the undocumented immigrant doesn't kick out the documented immigrant.
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  33.  @jaypuck6912  So put the blame on capitalism where it belongs.
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  34. How so?
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  35. The Abrahamic religions are far more similar than their adherents want to admit.
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  36.  @peterpham6288  A country isn't a house. There's different standards for freedom of movement between those things, so the analogy does not work.
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  37. No country can ever be improved?
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  38. Sounds great
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  39. Trump cultists are the people of alternative facts.
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  40. Unironically using the word "libtard" in 2019
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  41. Still terrible.
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  42.  @supercapitalist5712  Trump supporters look plenty bad already.
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  43. Then why is the Trump administration making it more difficult to immigrate legally?
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  44. Did the Native Americans feel safe when your people came over?
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  45. Do you actually have any policy positions beyond wanting to "own the libs"?
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  46. Yeah you actually are kind of racist for implying that Trump's horrifying actions against immigrants are justified because "they're bad and want to sell drugs"
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  47.  @labrawnjaimsrealityoverthe2494  It is when it's a reactionary phrase attempting to delegitimize the BLM movement and falsely imply that "black lives matter" has an implicit "only".
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  48.  @andrewwhite244  The fuck do you mean "legal immigrants"? Did the Europeans who came to the US have legal permission to settle on Native American lands and wage actual war against them?
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  49. Yeah, your Middle Eastern Abrahamic monotheistic religions are soooo different.
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  50. "Mexico has a lot more drug stuff going around too." Wow, it's almost like people want to move their family to somewhere that isn't run by cartels, even if it means breaking the law.
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  51. He doesn't want people coming legally either, or his administration wouldn't actively be making the process longer and more difficult.
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  52. "Get over it"? Someone like Trump being president affects a lot of people, and you'll keep hearing about it until he's out of office. So get over that.
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  53. Why don't you get over the fact that people will have criticism towards politicians?
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  54. Sad.
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  55.  @crate249  Hey remember when Trump supporters violently stormed the capitol after the president encouraged them to?
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  56.  @crate249  It's not, it's illegal in either case. Which makes it weird to me why there was such an incredibly heavy police presence at the protests of last summer where you had countless acts of violence by police against protesters, while armed terrorists had to literally break into the capitol in order for the authorities to fire shots. And the vast majority of them still never saw consequences.
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  57.  @crate249  He never directly called for them to storm the capitol, he can't take the mask off that much. But far-right crazies had been planning an event on january 6th for weeks after Trump had sold them this conspiracy theory about alleged election fraud. And he tweeted about this date himself to encourage them to show up. He all but invited an agitated armed mob of conspiracy theorists to the capitol with open arms. And after the fact he attempted to justify their actions by saying, and I quote: "these are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long."
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  58. So this is a troll, right? Or do you really lack this much self awareness?
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  59.  @danielthomas2621  What's crazy about seeing a shitty person for what he is?
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  60. Capitalism definitely does not help the masses.
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  61.  @cowtaplayz8277  Under socialism the workers would control the means of production, so there would be no private owners hoarding the profits of businesses or taking people's rent money.
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  62. As a leftist, I abhor extremely conservative/regressive ideas no matter where they come from. But that doesn't mean I don't also have a problem with anti-muslim discrimination. Especially considering said discrimination often has a race element to it.
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  63. The Trump administration does not feel the same way. Legal immigration has become a much more difficult process under it.
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  64. Why?
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  65. My condolences
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  66. It's a pretty arbitrary difference.
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  67. Tear gassed so Trump could have a photo op, no less. Violence for the sake of vanity.
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  68. Is the law always right?
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  69. Lmao, you're seriously calling for the abolition of journalism, and then crying about "muh free speech" because chuds are getting banned from YouTube.
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  70. Free speech is not the right to a platform though.
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  71. The distinction is more arbitrary than you might think. And the Trump administration doesn't seem to share your love for legal immigrants because they're actively making the process of legally immigrating to the US more difficult.
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  72. Then why has Trump's administration been making it more difficult to enter the US legally?
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  73. There's been increased processing times for visas despite a lower amount of applications, the wait times for citizenship have been doubled, denials for H1Bs have been doubled. No laws have been changed but there's a significant change in how accessible the US is for foreigners through subtle administrative changes.
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  74. Right? It's like a cult.
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  75. The Trump administration has made it more difficult to legally enter the US. Trump never got his physical wall but a bureaucratic wall has been erected.
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  76. "illegal is bad because it's illegal" wow such logic and reason
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  77.  @Wanderlight17  I mean, something being illegal should have some kind of justification. Murder's illegal because a society where people can freely end each other's lives isn't a very good one.
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  78. Cool, have fun paying low taxes while the evangelicals slowly erode your rights.
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  79. If you're against illegal immigration, you should be arguing against policy that negatively influences the lives of those who flee from violence to try and find a stable place to take care of their families, instead of punishing those peple.
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  80. Did you know that illegal immigration is just any immigration that the government deems to be illegal? Like, there's no inherent difference to it. It's just in how we treat it.
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  81. And undocumented workers aren't?
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  82. GAMERS RISE UP PRAISE GERALDO
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  83. Not at all trying to justify her irrational fear, but technically Trump lost the popular vote.
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  84. Fuck off, bootlicker.
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  85.  @GokuBlack-bw5ye  Some facts: - The US is handling the coronavirus pandemic terribly, with over 138 thousand people having died of the virus. While this was going on, Trump for a long time refused to wear a mask and instead made irresponsible comments about ingesting disinfectants. - While BLM protests were going on in Washington, Trump had a crowd of peaceful protesters tear gassed so that he could have a photo op at a church he'd never been to. - Trump's speech at Mt. Rushmore ticks many of the boxes outlined in Umberto Eco's "Ur-fascism".
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  86. Belief that legal is always fine and illegal is always bad is belief that the laws are always correct.
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  87. How is it a massive difference exactly? Seems like what's "illegal immigration" and "legal immigration" just depends on who's making the laws, which would be the Trump administration, which makes "illegal immigrants" just sort of a synonym for "undesirable immigrants".
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  88. Sad
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  89.  Evan Scammell  Then why's he making it harder for people to legally immigrate as well, and detaining refugees in horrible conditions? Requesting asylum requires crossing the border, but people crossing it seem to just be arrested by default. My comment wasn't specifically about that though, I just think all Trump supporters are sad.
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  90. The Trump administration certainly seems to be anti-immigration, considering the increased roadblocks that have appeared in the legal immigration process over the last few years.
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  91.  @marcolozano9321  They're allowed, sure. But it's an increasingly long and frustrating process, and that is by design. Not to mention a cost of several thousand dollars.
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  92.  @marcolozano9321  Sure, Trump wasn't the first to make it difficult to legally enter the US, but he has certainly kept that "tradition" strong. Which always makes it odd to hear people say that they, as Trump supporters are only against undocumented immigrants.
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  93. Sad.
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  94. Uhuh. Because none of those problems are directly caused by American foreign intervention or anything. And civilians with families are totally capable of solving these huge political issues instead of moving somewhere where they can actually have a decent life.
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  95. You're right, people are crazy. Some of them even support Trump.
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  96. Laws are perfect and should never be questioned, let alone broken. Gotcha.
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  97. So it's okay to throw asylum seekers into concentration camps if they're "ILLEGAL"?
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  98. Then why is the Trump administration making it more and more difficult to enter the US legally?
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  99. Why do cultists try to make everything about their cult?
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  100.  @patrickemery5077  Why do people keep making this flawed analogy? Countries aren't houses. And no, legal immigration isn't being made more time-consuming and difficult in the name of public safety, the "public charge" laws that went in effect only yesterday show clearly that it's about keeping out poor people. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" doesn't seem to apply anymore.
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  101.  @patrickemery5077  People born in the US are just as capable of being a threat.
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  102. Trump cultists love their empty slogans and catchphrases, just like their idol. Wel een beetje apart dat je als Nederlander meegaat in die gekte.
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  103. Boo hoo.
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  104. A better economy means nothing in a broken system where employees are exploited. Amazon is a giant company led by the wealthiest man on earth. It pays zero dollars in taxes and its employees are overworked and piss in jars to avoid taking bathroom breaks.
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  105. See, the difference is that immigrants are being harassed for being foreigners, and Trump fans are being harassed for supporting a horrible president.
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  106.  @lydiamartin.  I think it's fine to yell at Trump supporters. They made a choice that has negatively affected millions and has gotten people killed. Yell away.
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  107.  @lydiamartin.  By all means, criticize Obama.
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  108. Wow, you own all of the United States?
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  109. There's plenty that makes conservatives look bad.
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  110. Youtube isn't leftist. And moderating comment sections isn't fascist.
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  111. Wow, so cool. So edgy.
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  112. They're really not all that different at all.
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  113. Or maybe let's not give nazis a platform?
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  114. Why are Trump cultists so violent?
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  115. If he's not against legal immigration, why has the Trump administration been making it far more difficult to legally enter the US?
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  116.  @danielguns3300  You didn't refute it.
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  117. "NOOO YOU CAN'T CRITICIZE A WOMAN'S IGNORANT VIEWS THAT'S ANTIFEMINIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11"
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  118. Then why do you support an administration that's making it more difficult to immigrate to the US legally?
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  119. Neo-nazis deserve bricks, not a platform.
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  120. What's the reason for this particular law being there, in the way that it currently exists?
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  121. I'm not arguing against the existence of all laws. I just believe we should think about whether or not specific laws are truly just. For example, in the United States, drugs are highly criminalized. Decriminalizing some of them may decrease the influence these cartels have as their illegal drug production becomes largely obsolete.
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  122. Did you really think Trump being elected would mean people would stop criticizing him? He's everyone's problem now, of course people aren't going to "move on."
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  123.  @crate249  sO mUcH fOr tHe ToLeRaNt LeFt!!1
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  124. To some people I'm sure their Trump clothes are religious clothing.
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  125. You're all acting like idiots by supporting Trump
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  126. You don't think people should have the right to freely move across this earth?
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  127.  @regthegg2292  They're really not. The difference is completely arbitrary.
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  128. Yup. Their response to his recent comments have shown that.
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  129. Is he? He never seemed particularly pious until his foray into politics. Whatever happened to that thing in the bible about looking lustfully at women? Or that thing about a camel going through the eye of a needle?
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  130. Trump supporters are realists? That's a good one.
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  131. Nobody's saying they're not allowd to support Trump. But supporting someone is a conscious action, and actions can be criticized. Especially if those actions result in harm.
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  132. Saying "Trump is not a perfect person" is like saying "Lava is not cold".
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  133. Why?
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  134. But why do you support one and not the other?
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  135. So? Does legality dictate morality?
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  136. So? Does the fault then not lie with ICE?
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  137. The point I'm trying to make is that laws just don't come into being. Humans make those. And those laws can differ greatly between times and places. So it's important to see exactly what immigration laws are like, why they're like that, and if they could be better. Simply denouncing something because it's illegal seems very shallow to me.
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  138. There's plenty worse.
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  139. Yeah great, let's give those chuds another platform to spout their nonsense.
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  140. Stripping away of LGBTQ+ protections, fascist rhetoric (particularly in regards to people protesting for BLM, and bizarrely blaming antifascists which it almost kind of Freudian), failure to keep the Covid-19 crisis under control and keeping people from being evicted as a result while at the same time giving billions in aid to lobbyists, initially even writing Covid-19 off as a threat until it was undeniable, legitimizing dangerous conspiracy theories, and having protesters tear gassed and shot with rubber bullets so he could have a photo op, to name just a couple of recent ones.
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  141. Why?
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  142. Are you sure about that, urlastchance?
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  143. You don't know whether people born in the US are trustworthy or reliable.
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  144. Why is the Trump administration making it more difficult to immigrate legally then?
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  145. Well they sure do love walls.
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  146. Yeah, you guys keep saying that, but meanwhile the Trump administration is actively making it more and more difficult to enter the US legally.
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  147. The nuanced opinion haver has logged on
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  148. Which has nothing to do with free speech.
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  149.  Art Alvarez  Oh, honey.
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  150.  Art Alvarez  America is really not that great.
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  151.  Art Alvarez  Compared to a lot of European countries the US isn't doing very well in healthcare, education, justice system, and worker benefits.
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  152.  Art Alvarez  What the fuck are you talking about?
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  153.  Art Alvarez  Race has nothing to do with anything. Just compare the statistics between the US and other counties, your country performs relatively poorly in the areas I've named.
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  154. Welcome to imperialism
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  155. Aren't they, though?
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  156. "TRAHMP TWUNNY TWUNNY HE AIN'T HAD NUFF TIME YET TO BUILD THE DANG WALL TO KEEP THEM BROWNIES OUT"
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  157. You really felt the need to make 3 seperate comments whining about how the comments aren't conservative enough for you.
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  158. iT's A cOnSpIrAmAcY!!!! 😱
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  159. Imagine unironically using the word "libtards"
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  160.  @bungeespeaks6081  And the difference is more arbitrary than you might think.
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  161. Disgusting.
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