Comments by "Maksie0" (@Maksie0) on "Is It Time To Get Over Slavery? Black Liberals vs Black Conservatives | Middle Ground" video.

  1. ​ @googleboo9876  Slavery objectively caused far more harm than 9/11 did.
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  2. You vote for Trump, that's enough to give you a bad name.
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  3. Candace Owens is a grifter.
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  4. It's because the concept of "whiteness" is exclusionary in essence. Barack Obama is as white as he is black, but because he doesn't have white skin, he gets the "black" label.
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  5. You can't leave it in the past when we can still feel the repercussions today.
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  6. Nah there's something seriously wrong with her
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  7. Let's not give nazis another public plaftorm.
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  8. It happened relatively recently and had repercussions that are still felt today. People today have parents or grandparents who lived in a time where legal segregation existed.
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  9. After slavery came many decades of apartheid, which only ended about half a century ago. To think that slavery went away without any lasting repercussions is simply ignorant.
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  10. People will always be more involved in causes that affect them directly. This is the fallacy of relative privation.
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  11. It's scary how ignorant you are. What do you think black people and white people became 100% equal when slavery was abolished? No other systemic issues following that at all?
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  12. As one should be
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  13. Because she's an insane person
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  14. Cool
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  15. She's a BETAMALE
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  16. It was ended, sure. But that didn't fix the situation completely. Black people in the US were second class citizens until as recently as the 1960s, and black people on average have had far less of an ability to build generational wealth.
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  17.  @alexpearson7693  Per capita seems like the more valuable number when looking at the rates of police killings, considering there's more white people than there are black people.
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  18.  @alexpearson7693  You misunderstand, that wasn't a "pfft, yeah right". You proved my point. There's more white people, so of course more of them would be killed by police. But if you look at the numbers per capita, black people are killed at a far higher rate.
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  19. Spitting facts? She's literally insane
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  20. I think what she means is that slavery tends to be glossed over in history and its current day effects tend to be ignored. Compare that to Germany for example, where they extensively educate young people on the holocaust and what led up to it, and how it affected the world.
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  21. Why do you guys keep trying to pretend that the party switch didn't happen? We're not dealing with the 1800s versions of these parties, why would you pretend that we are?
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  22. Damn they sound cool
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  23. Conservatism and truth are incompatible.
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  24. You guys just had Trump, and now you want Owens? Why are you guys so eager to elect shameless grifters?
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  25. MLK was a socialist. King’s words in a letter to Coretta Scott in 1952: “I am much more socialistic in my economic theory than capitalistic,” he wrote, adding that capitalism had “out-lived its usefulness” because it had “brought about a system that takes necessities from the masses to give luxuries to the classes.”
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  26. "Wow, you think that I, as a black person, would be against racism? That's pretty racist. I think I'm gonna be racist just to spite you."
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  27. Candace Owens is a grifter and the fewer platforms she's offered the better.
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  28. "The left"? What, a bunch of socialists started an ethnonationalist club? Are you sure about that? Lmao
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  29. I love how you can make conservatives look bad just by giving them a platform.
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  30. There's nothing wrong with being LGBTQ+ though.
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  31. They're not allowed to go around and shoot non-law abiding citizens either
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  32. Owens is equally horrible but she's had media training.
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  33. A better world? By your bronze age standards, perhaps.
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  34. Liberals aren't exactly left.
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  35.  @gregk199  It really isn't.
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  36.  @gregk199  If they did, they'd be socialists. But liberals are pro-capitalism by definition.
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  37. lIbTaRdS dEsTrOyEd WiTh FaCtS aNd LoGiC
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  38. In an ideal world, the color of your skin wouldn't influence your political view. In the reality we live in, who you vote for and what policies you support can impact your life based on what ethnicity you are, for example in regards to policies around policing where we still find a lot of racism.
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  39. One's ancestors being literally enslaved as recently as a few generations ago is bound to have consequences in the present.
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  40.  @frankwhite2232  Do you know what redlining is? White flight? Ever heard of these? You're delusional if you think slavery just made everything equal. The USA had legal apartheid until the 1960s for fuck's sake.
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  41. Who is this meant to convince exactly?
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  42.  @sh23pdog  That's blatantly false.
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  43. I love it when people regurgigate the "DeStRoYiNg ThE nUcLeAr FaMiLy!!!!" meme without even thinking for a second what it might actually mean. Like, do you believe they're literally going to dismantle families?
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  44. libtards owned epic style
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  45. "Nothing about it affected you"? That's a pretty ignorant thing to say, do you really think the enslavement of an entire race just ends without any other social repercussions?
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  46. Conservative snowflakes sure seem to love this Tom McDonalds character
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  47.  @layedout778  Calm down ok
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  48. It's happening now in prisons. Inmates are used as free labor and kept in inhumane conditions, and people are incarcerated for nonviolent drug crimes to make sure there's a big enough unpaid work force. It's literally written into the 13th amendment that this form of slavery is still allowed.
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  49. "Society should be improved somewhat." "WOW LOOK AT THIS VICTIM MINDSET WOW I BET YOU WANNA BE A VICTIM FOREVER OR SOMETHING" "Society is actually fine and there's no societal issues because I don't experience any" "SUCH A BRAVE WARRIOR MINDSET!!!"
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  50. Of course you can't change the past. But you can shape the present. And slavery and the apartheid that followed made it so that while we currently (hypothetically) have legal equality, things aren't quite equal yet for a number of reasons. A big one being that for the vast majority of black families, these realities have made it so they haven't had the ability to build wealth to the same degree that white people have. Slavery is over, yes, but the idea that it doesn't have any repercussions today is naive.
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  51. Can you explain to me what that actually even means?
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  52.  Lizzie Allen  But what does it actually mean?
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  53.  Lizzie Allen  The direct meaning of the phrase "destroy the nuclear family". Like, are they gonna forcibly tear families apart? Make marriage illegal?
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  54. I disagree. It's not okay to be a conservative.
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  55.  @jjham6780  A lot of people use them like that, primarily because there's very little in the way of leftist political representation in the US. But liberals are not leftists.
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  56. Why do I always find zealots in the Jubilee comments trying to preach?
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  57. You don't think an entire ethnicity of people being literal property a mere century and a half ago could have repercussions today? Hell, it wasn't until the 1960s that black people stopped being legally treated as second class citizens. And in a very real way slavery is still alive in the US today through the war on drugs and privatized prisons.
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  58. Conservatives are in a bad light by default. Because they're conservatives.
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  59.  Lizzie Allen  "wHy DoN't YoU jUsT mOvE" isn't really an argument. Should people not fight for equality in the country they were born in?
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  60. What makes politeness more important than achieving results for society that reduce harm and promote well being?
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  61. No it's because she appears to be insane
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  62. Libs equals "Systemic issues exist which should be adressed" (though unfortunately they don't bring this to its logical conclusion of calling to abolish capitalism) Conservative equals "LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU SYSTEMIC ISSUES AREN'T REAL BECAUSE THAT WOULD MEAN THE FACT THAT I'M BETTER OFF THAN YOU IS THE RESULT OF PRIVILEGE AND NOT THE FACT THAT I'M BETTER THAN YOU!!!!"
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  63. Well, I'm happy for you that you found a way to make everything about your religion.
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  64. Do you honestly, truly believe that just because it's 2021 there's no systemic socioeconomic issues whatsoever?
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  65. God, if only.
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  66. Cage is more unhinged, but Owens is worse because as a grifter with a relatively large audience she causes more harm.
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  67. Slavery led to poverty, and poverty tends to correlate with crime and substance abuse.
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  68. Do you really, honestly think that slavery and apartheid such a relatively short amount of time ago is going to have no lasting repercussions?
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  69. It's literally still happening today through the prison-industrial complex
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  70. Xavier is a man.
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  71.  @Bradley_Lute  Get a better job then. Your beliefs are asinine and harmful.
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  72.  @Bradley_Lute  Forgive me if I misunderstood but it seems like you said that gay people need to be "guided away from" their same-gender attractions. Now that I'm re-reading your comment I feel like I may have had the wrong impression.
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  73. Damn, sounds like we should defund the police
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  74. @Tom Joney I promise you that if I get violently murdered, you won't hear any complaints from me afterwards.
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  75. @Tom Joney Wow you sound so badass
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  76. "Stop even paying attention to people’s color. You all are the ones causing it" This is like thinking there's no dust under the couch until you flip it over.
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  77. Cool conspiracy theory
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  78. The thing about that is that there's different types of transitioning. Transitioning doesn't have to involve hormone therapy or surgery, where it all starts is changing the way you present yourself to the world. The way you act, dress, etc. None of that is a permanent change. In the vast majority of places (I'm not aware of a place where this isn't the case) you have to be legally an adult to have surgery, and at least 16 for hormone therapy. And these will only be given after a lot of consultation with medical professionals. Puberty blockers can be given at an earlier age but these are completely reversible and serve to prevent a trans child from going through the wrong puberty. If after a lot of consultation, counseling, etc the child were to discover they weren't trans after all, no permanent damage is done and they can go through their assigned gender's puberty process.
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  79. Why shouldn't they? It depends on the political views, does it not?
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  80. @James Brennan I mean, for example, if someone was a huge homophobe I wouldn't wanna be their friend.
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  81. What about indirectly? The US had legal apartheid until as recently as the 60s.
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  82.  @hazardous8301  I'm not talking about people having directly experienced it. A thing like apartheid doesn't go away without having lingering effects for generations to come.
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  83.  @hazardous8301  It's not about anyone being responsible, it's about the socioeconomic realities that come from having legal apartheid in recent history. Like redlining for example, or the huge different in the average net worths of white and black families due to black people's historic inability to build generational wealth. Unfortunately, things like slavery and apartheid don't just disappear and leave a perfectly equal society in their place.
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  84.  @hazardous8301  You can't disprove statistics with anecdotes. And ignoring systemic racism doesn't make it go away.
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  85.  @hazardous8301  What do you call redlining then? Is that not racism occuring on a systemic level?
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  86. It's not about getting an apology. It's about undoing the legacy that slavery created.
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  87. People don't acknowledge the effects it has had to this day.
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  88. Slavery was abolished in the US relatively recently and the racism that spawned such practices haven't gone away. Also, people in the US are obviously gonna focus on social issues in the US.
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  89.  @jessiemeeler5759  If your house is on fire, should you not call the fire department because there's a raging wildfire somewhere else in the world?
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  90. The difference is that the people who descended from people who were the victims of pirate raids weren't then subjected to other systemic discrimination like Jim Crow laws and redlining.
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  91. If you don't like violent protests, you're gonna hate cops murdering black people in the street
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  92. What is a "trained Marxist"? What does Marxist training entail?
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  93. No one deserves to wear such a terrible eyesore.
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  94.  MegaJf16  How about racial segregation until the 1960s for starters? Or redlining?
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  95. They immigrate to America and become successful because they have the means to do so. Meanwhile, slavery and the subsequent apartheid has robbed many black Americans of the ability to build generational wealth.
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  96. So you're saying she was a conservative.
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  97. Aaaand there's the anti-semitic conspiracy theory
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  98. You're a Trump supporter, so you clearly don't support what's right. And forgetting the past means not only being blind to the ways it still affects the present, but it also means risking repeating it.
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  99. When only 200 years ago a demographic was literally considered property, that's not just going to go away. It took until the 1960s for black people to legally be equal to white people. And how the hell are you gonna protest without infringing upon anything? That's literally what protest is. That's the only way it has any effect.
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  100. "Hey Kevin I like the tolerance but don't forget our book commands us to be homophobic"
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  101.  @lorenzinorod23  "You judge people based on their actions and ideas? sO mUcH fOr ThE tOlErAnT lEfT"
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  102.  @drreverse2074  Of course I don't support Trump.
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  103. Based
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  104. She already has a platform for her garbage, she doesn't need another one.
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  105. There's more white people in the US than black people.
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  106. "No fair, they were doing it too!"
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  107. If a conservative is an insane person, it's the insane conservative person's fault, not some leftist conspiracy.
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  108. Do you honestly think that there are no lasting consequences from the enslavement of an entire race such a relatively short amount of time ago? I mean you guys were practically an apartheid state until only like 60 years ago.
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  109. Why are you a conservative?
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  110.  @_darkkstar_  Of course it should.
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  111. Literal whataboutism
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  112. Trans kids are still kids.
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  113. It really didn't though. BLM is still protesting peacefully. The riots were short lived but that's all the media focuses on.
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  114.  @phoenixwright5743  You mean the city that had a bunch of political graffiti, which republican politicians blew out of proportion to justify sending in feds without badge numbers to drag protesters into unmarked vans?
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  115. Unfortunate.
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  116. Per capita?
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  117.  @alexpearson7693  Right.
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  118. It didn't happen to them personally, but it has had repercussions since then in the form of Jim Crow laws, redlining, etc.
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  119. You shouldn't feel sorry or guilty for slavery. But it should be recognized that slavery had far-reaching consequences that are still felt today and need to be adressed.
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  120. African Americans were literally second class citizens as recently as the 1960s. These things have effects on society long after they're abolished.
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  121. They'd be anarchists.
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  122. Congratulations, you have the shittiest take!
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  123. @James Brennan Why are you guys so eager to just elect any fast-talking grifter who tells you what you want to hear?
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  124. Why would you invite those grifters?
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  125. It's hard to be socially progressive when there's no tax money for social programs.
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  126. I'm afraid I can't, because I hate both.
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  127. heh. in comclusion? conservative smort, librul dum.
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  128. The point is that there's still systemic issues in the US that exist as a result of racism.
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  129. Protests are inherently disruptive
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  130.  Bryan Nastawa  Without that kind of protest, the USA wouldn't exist.
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  131.  Bryan Nastawa  Do you think the Boston Tea Party was an actual tea party?
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  132. If you think slavery in the US hasn't affected the present, you're woefully uninformed.
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  133. Source?
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  134. This isn't just about honoring and remembering, nor is it about anyone apologizing or "paying for sins" or whatever. It's about recognizing the lasting societal effects from slavery.
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