Comments by "Maksie0" (@Maksie0) on "Can LGBTQ+ and Christians See Eye To Eye? | Middle Ground" video.

  1. Marriage is by no means a religious construct. It existed before Christianity and its meaning has changed many, many times. The very concept of marrying out of love is very unbiblical.
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  2. Horseman, the irony of your comments never quite gets old.
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  3. I sexually Identify as an unoriginal joke. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of surfing Youtube comment sections dropping shitposts and derailing actual conversation. People say to me that this has been really going on for far too long and and it trivialises gender identity but I don't care, I'm a massive asshole. I’m having a plastic surgeon install a mountain dew dispenser, a catheter and and a poop chute on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me “Logical Gamer” and respect my right to freeze peach. If you can’t accept me you’re a god damn tumblirina sjw cultural marxist liberal and you triggered lol?. Thank you for being so understanding.
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  4. I'm sorry that you've been pressured into suppressing your sexuality, that's very wrong of the people around you.
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  5. People like Avatar are the reason why.
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  6. @Axel Smith It makes me sad that you're deliberately denying yourself love because your religion tells you to.
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  7. Why should a woman be forced to go through with a pregnancy, something that can be indredibly damaging to the human body, even deadly? All for a zygote that is not even a seperate entity at this point, and more of an extension of the woman's body? You can argue that a zygote or a fetus is a human, it's debatable and frankly doesn't have a clear answer. But we know that the mother is a human. And to force her to go through with a pregnancy against her will is despicable. Women die giving birth. Last year a woman gave birth and ended up with a flesh-eating disease. She ended up a quadruple amputee.
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  8. Cerastes still spreading garbage misinformation like usual. It's like it's the guy's full-time job or something.
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  9. I don't think you can love someone and not support their struggle for equality.
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  10. They face a lot of discrimination still, and in the case of trans people they can't even use the right bathroom legally.
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  11. Avatar continues to insist there is no such thing as homophobia, while continuing to be the very image of it.
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  12. Watch out, the boogeyman's gonna crawl into your brain!
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  13. What's disgusting is that in 2018 there's people who don't respect women enough to let them have autonomy over their own bodies.
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  14. Oh wow, blaming rape victims now. Nice. Real nice. Piece of shit.
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  15. What's hypocritical about talking about zygotes? That's literally what a pregnancy is in the early stage. And the early stages of pregnancy are when the vast majority of abortions take place. Where do you draw the line when it comes to ending a life? Is it genocide to ejaculate into a paper tissue?
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  16. An unborn fetus is an extension of the mother, not an independent entity. Unless you want to argue that unfertilized eggs are being murdered every time a woman has her period? No, that's not conveinent, better arbitrarily only make it a fertilized egg. And seriously, why are you always liking your own comments, without fail? It reeks of narcissism, Cerastes.
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  17. Atheism doesn't view LGBTQ+ people as mistakes. Atheism is only the lack of belief in gods, nothing more. Personally I'm an atheist and a humanist, and I would never think of an LGBTQ+ person as defective.
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  18. Who cares about murder? Just don't hurt poor Yahweh's feelings! He just can't handle that, apparently.
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  19. We punish crime because it harms others. But the concept of sin is not based on the idea of prevention of harm, so it's meaningless as a foundation for morality.
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  20. It's 2018, and you believe that the entire human species came from 2 humans, one of which was made from a rib? What's it like to be completely divorced from reality?
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  21. Being LGBTQ+ is not an imperfection though.
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  22. Says the guy who vehemently believes in the validity and reliability of the unfounded supernatural claims found inside an ancient collection of myths 🙃
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  23. Wouldn't be the first thing you're wrong about, Alpha.
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  24. It just says that you're pathetic.
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  25. He just doesn't answer it, as usual. He's not interested in honestly looking at his claims and beliefs, he just wants to parrot the same thing at every LGBTQ+ Christian he can find.
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  26. Why the hell would he make LGBT people if he "doesn't agree with it"
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  27.  @drcrunch9561  No
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  28. Your friend sounds a bit ignorant.
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  29. What exactly is it that you are against?
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  30. Yeah, no, I'm not buying it. I get the feeling it has far more to do with you "stating your views" than you being straight.
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  31. Look at you Cerastes, telling a 13-year-old they're not a "real Christian" because they're not a bigot like you. Why are you like this?
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  32. I don't believe you for a second.
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  33. Better a "lukewarm" than a bigoted zealot.
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  34. Stubbornly refusing to use someone's pronouns is rude, so don't complain when people are rude in return.
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  35. It makes you factually incorrect.
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  36. Okay, and? Are relationships only valid if they can make a baby? Is there some kind of extreme baby shortage I'm unaware of?
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  37. What is there to "disagree" with? Can you "disagree" with a person being left-handed? How does that work?
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  38. Adam and Eve are fictional.
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  39. So, what, you ask for people's birth certificate before you call them "he" or "she"?
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  40. Cerastes, shouldn't you be shouting absurdities on a street corner somewhere?
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  41. Don't mind Alpha. For over a year now he's thought of himself as the Christianity police. I'm sure he'll get a life any day now.
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  42. Sounds pretty cringe.
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  43.  @umpvp2435  Really? That's your response? Man you really must be some kind of braindead NPC.
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  44. So dramatic.
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  45. Cerastes, stop trying to be the fucking Christianity police. Holy shit you're obnoxious.
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  46. The line is drawn where consent ends. Easy.
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  47. You can absolutely be LGBTQ+ and be a Christian.
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  48. Isn't humanity beautiful?
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  49. God: makes foreskins God: "ok cut them off"
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  50. It's because most people still have the common sense to realize that murdering a toddler is quite a bit worse than stealing a candy bar.
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  51. Cerastes, I know you really like to hear yourself talk, but liking all of your own comments is a little narcissistic isn't it?
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  52.  @souhiyori8032  What does that mean though, to "disagree with the idea"? That's so vague.
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  53. Any parent is capable of being a bad parent, I don't see what it has to do with being gay.
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  54. All I'll say is, how messed up would our justice system be if we treated stealing gum on the same level as murder?
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  55. Nah you're a homophobe if you irrationally think that homosexuality is wrong. Doesn't matter if it's because you think your god told you.
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  56. There's no such thing as "objectively disgusting". Just admit that this is about feelings and not facts, you big whiny snowflake.
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  57. Homophobia means an irrational prejudice against gay people.
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  58. Good news! Hell isn't real.
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  59. Religion in a nutshell. They expect the whole world to follow their bizarre little rules.
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  60. How do you know your god said anything? You might just be homophobic for no good reason.
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  61. That's like saying "there's a difference between racism and simply not agreeing with being black"
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  62. I feel like that's using an oddly specific definition of the word "normal". By that definition it's not normal to have blond hair, as the vast majority of humans has darker colored hair.
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  63. The fact that evolution has been thoroughly demonstrated to be the most reliable explanation for the origins of humanity, and the fact that a breeding population of two simply doesn't work. But since when do you care about evidence all of a sudden?
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  64. Sounds pretty cringe. But hey, admitting you have a problem is the first step to getting better.
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  65. Loving someone of the same gender is not evil or harmful. What is evil and harmful, however, is telling gay people they need to be celibate.
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  66. Then by all means, get on your knees and please god. But stop bothering everyone else about it.
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  67. We can't have sex with whoever we want, only with people who consent. That's it. There's no rational reason to arbitrarily limit it to married straight couples.
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  68. Cerastes, do you truly have nothing better to do than gatekeeping these people?
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  69. I think most gay or bi people who pretend to be straight, do so out of necessity, to avoid alienating the people around them who would reject them if they knew about their sexuality. So I can't really say it's a bad thing. It just sucks that it's necessary for some people.
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  70. Horseshit, why do you insist on proving my point?
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  71. Gladly. Where can I reach this god person? Do you have an e-mail address? Phone number? Does he have a Discord?
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  72. There's nothing that scientific about jizzing into a cup for a friend. And if gay people are "made" as you called it, how do you explain gay people existing in the most conservative homophobic countries in the world?
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  73. One's sexuality is part of who they are. You only "love" some hypothetical straight version of a gay person.
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  74. Alpha & Omega, let me say this for the millionth damn time. You are homophobic. Homophobia is an irrational aversion to homosexuality and/or homosexual people, and that is what you're displaying over and over again.
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  75. Delete yourself.
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  76. Men and LGBTQ+ people are not mutually exclusive groups, you spamming weirdo.
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  77. I mean, being straight is fine. I just wish they'd stop shoving their straightness down our throats.
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  78. So as usual, the answer is magic. Cool beans.
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  79. Not contrary to nature. How many times do I need to explain this, Horseshit? Some humans are naturally attracted to people of the same gender. Just as we observe in the animal kingdom.
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  80. Gender dysphoria actually specifically refers to the negative feelings many trans people experience that are treated by transitioning.
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  81. @MarsLand Kindly piss off.
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  82. No I think it's mostly because of the homophobia and all that
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  83. It's fine to make mistakes, pretty much anyone will be understanding of that. What matters is that you try to be respectful and don't intentionally misgender people.
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  84. How has it been linked with bad parenting?
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  85. I've always found it weird how sexuality is characterized as "your choices", considering no one chooses who they fall in love with.
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  86. [CITATION FUCKING NEEDED]
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  87. Maybe God should stop being an irrational homophobe then.
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  88. Good riddance to superstitious ignorance.
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  89.  @ironpatriot344  You realize the singular "they" has been used in the English language for hundreds of years, right?
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  90. Oh please. It's no secret that you're a homophobe. You're not interested in an earnest discussion about scripture, you're here with the goal of discouraging fellow believers from accepting and tolerating LGBTQ+ identities.
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  91. Because we all agree that veterans should be treated well (apart from the military industrial complex.) As you can see in this comment section, people are a bit more divided on LGBTQ+ people.
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  92.  @mrfrosty6219  I'm not saying the doctors messed up. It's just what happens in a society where gender is a thing. So you either abolish gender, which I don't see happening soon, or you make sure that kids who are transgender have access to the counseling, guidance, and resources they need.
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  93. Clearly he doesn't, since he replies to literally every LGBTQ+ Christian in the comments section.
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  94. Following kings is a little old-fashioned. Society improved when we started putting those in guillotines.
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  95. @Jon He really is pathetic, isn't he?
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  96. How can you put a smiley face after something so awful?
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  97. Transphobes have literally one joke, and it's not even good.
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  98. Then he doesn't actually love LGBTQ+ people.
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  99. Stealing something is morally wrong because it means someone has their stuff taken. Eating a whole pizza isn't morally wrong, but is probably bad for you. Being in a romantic relationship with someone of the same gender is neither.
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  100. Your ancient cult is becoming less and less relevant, and it's about goddamn time.
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  101. You believe in ancient superstitions that have not been demonstrated with evidence. And that in itself is fine, everyone has the right to believe in whatever nonsense they wish. But to then claim you know the truth and that others must accept it, especially when that "truth" aims to deprise people of the right to marry, I find that very offensive.
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  102. One can have faith in literally anything. It's not a reliable way of coming to the truth.
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  103.  @yahshuasquotation6778  Kissing another boy you like isn't a wrong choice if you're gay. Transitioning isn't a wrong choice if you're trans.
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  104. Don't bother with Avatar and Cerastes, Lucy. They have an obsession with trolling this comment section and harrassing anyone who doesn't fit their definition of a "real Christian".
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  105. Awfully convenient. Your "job" is to spout religious nonsense all day, and you don't have to worry one bit about how nonsensical and unsubstantiated it all is. Ever considered getting a job that doesn't involve yelling at gay people about lakes of fire and whatnot?
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  106. @Beardsman Why do you have two identical YouTube accounts, you absolute weirdo?
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  107. Cerastes, DracorAlex here has a direct line of communication with God himself. Do you really want to go against what he says, and risk a one way trip to spicy town?
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  108. For the record, I don't have a problem with bi people or any lgbtq+ people.
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  109. Romantic and sexual attraction to the same gender is natural as well.
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  110.  @criticclips1560  What "lifestyle" is that? Do all gay, bi, trans, pan, etc people have one lifestyle?
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  111. What does "not supporting LGBTQ+" mean exactly?
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  112. Headless, don't start about unanswered comments. You wouldn't want to be a hypocrite.
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  113. "Durr I'm Cerastes and I'm the ONLY real Christian in the WHOLE WORLD!"
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  114. Aaaand the resident dickhead has made yet another account.
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  115. Christians like the idea that their god "invented" marriage, but it's just one of the many things their religion tried to culturally appropriate.
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  116. Maybe stop telling other people how to live in the future, Avatar?
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  117. You're right, not all Christians are like that. Which is why I encourage all Christians who are like that, to not be like that.
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  118. I identify as a shitty overused transphobic joke
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  119. Aren't you a little old to believe in an evil boogeyman?
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  120. Yeah you are though. You're not a space alien.
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  121. Go fuck yourself, transphobe.
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  122. In the sense that you choose who you enter a romantic relationship with, sure. But you don't choose who you're attracted to.
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  123. Well if that's how you're defining it why would you not agree with any of those
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  124. Fuck off, there's nothing wrong with being gay. Your religion's commandments are unethical and unreasonable.
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  125. Prove hell actually exists.
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  126. "You’ve presented no evidence to support your claims." Kinda reminds me of someone else I know, Sleepy Hollow! You. It's you.
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  127. You can have a sensible moral system, or you can blindly cling to an ancient book of stories.
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  128. Jesus Christ, Cerastes, how many times are you going to link the same propaganda video? You comment so many times, but I feel like you've only ever written a handful of comments, and you just keep regurgitating the same shit.
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  129. noT eXAcTlY possiBle To Be bOTH WIthout BEiNg INTeLLectuaLLY diShoneST.
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  130.  Oucast American  I think the problem you're having is that you get your science from Kindergarten Cop.
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  131. But being gay simply isn't wrong.
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  132. Oh ok it was the demons, gotcha
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  133. If your church is ok with gay people, your church is better than the ones that aren't. From a moral perspective.
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  134. Doesn't exist. Just what conservatives imagine gay people do in their daily lives.
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  135. Thank you Avatar, for proving my point completely.
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  136. By the way Cerastes, when are you finally going to give me a scientific source for your claim that nobody's born gay? I've been waiting since yesterday!
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  137. Here, I can fill in for Horseshit, I've memorized how his mind works: "UM, ACTUALLY, it's not my JOB to convince you of the claims I'm making! Just look around you at how complex the world is! And look how Christianity is really popular! That totally proves that literally every word of a collection of bronze age stories containing supernatural beings and events that have never been observed again is totally true! Huh? Argument from ignorance fallacy, and argument ad populum fallacy? What are those? Ah, nevermind, your cOrRuPt RePrObAtE mInD is making you say big confusing words again, like some kind of dang satanist! Begone, vile demon! The power of Christ compels you!"
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  138. They won't die out. Gay people can still reproduce. Artificial insemination and whatnot. Plenty of gay couples decide to become parents, either through sperm donor or surrogate mother, or adoption. Is it not a tremendous virtue to adopt a child who would otherwise grow up without parents? Also, gay people will continue to be born to straight couples outside this hypothetical gay nation...
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  139. Then I'm afraid you're simply wrong.
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  140. Orinoco still doesn't get how sexuality works, despite having it had explained to him multiple times. Sad.
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  141.  @lawrenceeason8007  Don't bother with Hydra or Avatar or whatever he chooses to call himself. He's done this dance with plenty of people and it's all word games, no demonstrable evidence.
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  142. Common sense is a meaningless concept. Homosexuality is in no way the same as anal sex, something which heterosexual people engage in quite a bit as well. And nobody, save for a very small group of fetishists (of a variety of sexual orientations, mind you) wants shit to be involved in any part of their intercourse. There's this thing people do called "hygiene", you may wanna look into it.
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  143. I don't know what's more offensive, the homophobia or the seemingly random use of double space and bizarre punctuation.
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  144. Nobody chooses their skin color or their sexuality. In that regard they're the same.
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  145. No, there's literally no evidence. You've just raised a bunch of logical fallacies. The world is not a painting. We know paintings are painted because we know what a painting is and how it's painted. But planets and the life that arose on this one occur naturally. Complexity is not indicative of design, nor is percieved order. Design must be demonstrated.
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  146. No, Omega. Your evidence is just lacking and your indoctrination prevents you from seeing it.
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  147. Can't even spell, either. Sad. Wish he'd finally just fuck off.
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  148. @Alpha You've literally been coming here for over a year now just to be an asshole to strangers
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  149. I'm talking about a woman who is 100% incapable of getting pregnant.
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  150. But gay people don't deserve a romantic relationship? Is that what you're saying? By the way, if you're in favor of "staying within the boundaries of nature" you should rethink your stance on marriage, since that definitely doesn't occur in nature.
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  151. I'm not against your existence at all, but I find your beliefs reprehensible, and your reliance on this "boundaries of nature" narrative to be misplaced, since homosexuality does occur in nature, unlike the human notion of monogamy.
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  152. Ok boomer.
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  153. Reading a book where it says that your god states that "homosexuality is a sin worthy of death" would make any decent person realize that this god is a completely immoral monster.
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  154. qk1001, Do you ask to see the genitalia of everyone you meet to ensure you get the pronouns right? No? Then you don't base it on genitalia.
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  155.  @saiyanduo643  I liked the comments, because I agreed with them. And you're not on the side of science here, DBZ.
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  156. You're right. Homophobia, for example, is highly detestable.
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  157.  @isaacclarke7425  You don't choose who you're attracted to and fall in love with.
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  158. Orinoco, for fuck's sake, give it a rest already.
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  159. You'd know all about stereotyping, huh Horseshit?
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  160.  @GuyOnYoutubeIFear  Ignore Tan Tan, they copy and paste that to every LGBTQ+ Christian who posts here.
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  161. Looks like he completely disappeared again. Hopefully permanently this time.
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  162. Cerastes, is it OK for a government to force a woman to go through with a bodily function that could potentially kill her, and punish her for seeking medical treatment?
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  163. Why does a fetus get special rights over a grown woman's right to bodily autonomy?
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  164. But a fetus is also not conscious, and not autonomous. To call it a seperate entity is arbitrary at that point as it cannot survive without its host.
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  165. Don't bother with Cerastes, every answer boils down to "book says no"
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  166. Alpha, it's you who is screwing it up for everybody. You think yourself different than adherents of "false religions" but there's literally no difference whatsoever beyond your own biases.
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  167. Love happens in people's brains. No deities are involved anywhere in the process as far as I can tell.
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  168. What if a righteous person is indoors? Will they fly into the cloud vortex through the ceiling? And if these zombies are rising out of graves, how will their heavily decayed bodies hold together?
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  169. Your comment perfectly demonstrates that the only way you could ever see non-hetero relationships as something bad, is if you based it on unsubstantiated religious beliefs. Gay folks aren't "missing" anything by not forcing themselves to act heterosexual.
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  170. That's kind of sad that she wouldn't officiate her own sister's wedding.
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  171. Marriage existed before Christianity, and Christianity doesn't have a monopoly on marriage.
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  172. Labeling all non-heterosexual attraction as "lust" is dishonest.
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  173. What the fuck is "the act"
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  174. Why?
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  175. And there's nothing wrong with being gay.
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  176. bLuE hAiR bAd
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  177. Psst, it's difficult and harmful because of society's response to it, not because of anything innate to being gay. How did you not think of that?
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  178. More like realizing that someone whose counterpoint is "well uhhh gay people told me being gay is bad" isn't worth talking to.
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  179. You still haven't named any of this actual "inherent harm" you're so adamant exists. Glad you're happy enough with your own comments to give em a like though.
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  180. And your reason for believing these nebulous harmful aspects of homosexuality are inherent to it is...?
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  181. I don't have the time or patience to undo what I can only assume has been years of indoctrination into the bizarre mindset of "straight white male victimhood". All the best, hopefully you'll grow out of it eventually.
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  182. What "beliefs" would those be?
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  183.  Oucast American  Yikes.
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  184. Better stay away from the shrimp
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  185. People aren't using belief in the tooth fairy to justify legislating LGBTQ+ people's rights away.
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  186. Gay people have been around far longer than your religion has.
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  187.  @jesuschristismyking3040  LGBTQ+ people didn't "choose a path" though, they didn't choose to be gay, bi, trans, etc.
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  188. Why can't this god simply make his existence known? Then people can actually make an informed decision. Right now it's just a gullibility test.
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  189. Don't kid yourself, Vox/Avatar/whatever you're calling yourself this week. You're not a normal person by any means.
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  190. "DURRRR dId YoU mEaN rEcOvErInG gAy??????"
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  191. Humans created marriage.
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  192. You're completely delusional.
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  193. What "actions" do you "not support"?
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  194. You're wrong! Wanna keep going like that for a while? You'll have lots of your own comments to 👍!
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  195. He and Cerastes are seemingly obsessed with being the Christianity police on this video's comments. It's despicable.
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  196. Why shouldn't kids be aware that gay people exist?
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  197. What kind of monster would make homosexuality a capital crime? You worship that thing?
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  198. Suhyun, can you demonstrate that what you're claiming is actually true?
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  199. What "views" are being pushed on you?
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  200. Cerastes, why are you such an obnoxious piece of shit? You don't need to fucking harass every single LGBTQ+ friendly Christian.
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  201. What exactly is it that you "don't agree with"?
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  202. I didn't ask you.
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  203. Being LGBTQ+ isn't a lifestyle or a choice though.
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  204. Don't get into a car with Avatar, folks. He doesn't understand what consent means.
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  205. Orinoco. No one is asking you to be the Christianity police. So why do you keep trying?
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  206. I'd call it policing when literally every LGBTQ+ or LGBTQ+-friendly Christian who comments here gets a reply telling them they're not a "true Christian".
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  207. Again, it matters because regardless of the truth or non-truth of your religious beliefs, you're actively and constantly trying to influence people into thinking there's something wrong with being LGBTQ+. That's harmful. Especially when you tell that to impressionable young people. I've seen you talk to LGBTQ+ teenagers and tell them that their identity is not valid.
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  208. It's almost like Headless is really dishonest. 🤔
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  209. Sounds pretty irrational and extremistic.
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  210. Imagine unironically quoting Ben Shapiro LMAO
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  211. Phnx, the fact that you unironically typed that sentence shows you're a lost cause.
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  212. Things that exist in reality are demonstrable by science. Why is your god an exception to this? I mean, I can think of one reason...
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  213. Some people crave the feeling of peace and reassurance they get from religious belief, but don't agree with the immoral teachings. Honestly, I'd rather have Christians who don't completely follow the bible, as they tend to be morally better people than the hardcore ones.
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  214. Pretty shitty to make fun of a stranger's appearance as some kind of joke on someone else
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  215. Why does a fetus get special rights over those of adult women? A fetus has the right to be fully developed and born, but a woman doesn't have the right to control what goes on in her own body?
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  216. What "type of living"?
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  217.  @aprylflynn526  Being LGBTQ+ isn't a decision.
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  218.  @aprylflynn526  If a gay person comes out as gay they just become openly gay. But they were gay before they came out.
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  219. "dId yOu mEaN rEcOvEriNg GaY????"
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  220. The singular "they" (as in, using "they" to refer to a singular individual) has been used in the English language for centuries. It's common to use "they" to refer to someone whose gender is unknown or who isn't explicitly male or female.
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  221. I'm sorry, the world isn't going to change their ways for your imaginary friend.
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  222. Avatar, when are you getting to the "walking away" part?
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  223. @Full Throttle Another new account? You never learn, do you?
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  224. If you "don't believe in the legitimacy" then that's homophobia.
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  225. What are the consequences?
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  226. Citation needed.
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  227. "If you love me, obey me" is something an abuser would say.
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  228. It's not a decision though.
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  229. Gender is a matter of identification, age is a descriptor of how long one has been alive. However, some mentally disabled people might operate on a cognitive level of someone younger than them, so in that case yes, they should be treated as a younger person in many regards.
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  230. No one chooses to be gay, or bi, or trans. And LGBT people want to be accepted for who they are, not for their beliefs.
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  231. Cerastes, is this your full time job?
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  232. Seems he'd rather ignore it. Like always.
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  233. Honestly, all in all this comment section isn't too bad. With the notable exception of one user who is exceptionally dedicated to their bigotry.
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  234. I'm intolerant of homophobic zealots, sure. There's only been a handful of those here, you're just the most persistent one.
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  235. I don't know what deity I could believe in. Plenty of people believe in plenty of different gods. I look at their claims and so far, they haven't presented compelling evidence for them.
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  236. Halldog, would you ever subject a four-year-old to the agony of burning alive for ten seconds? If the answer is no, why do you worship someone who would do that for eternity, to billions, without blinking an eye?
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  237. If you think Adam and Eve literally existed, you lose. You're just too gullible to even take part in the argument.
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  238. Oh boy, an enlightened centrist.
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  239. Oh boy, there he goes gatekeeping again!
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  240. How do you know it's the truth? You apparently haven't even read the book that makes the claims.
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  241. Don't pay attention to Alpha, he's a crazy fundamentalist who thinks he's the final authority on Christianity.
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  242. Don't listen to Cerastes, he's trying to be the Christianity police. Live your life, and love who you love.
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  243.  @mrfrosty6219  False. Their gender was assigned at birth. And this assignment can sometimes be incorrect. Not even sure what you're going for here because even if you're referring to biological gender that stuff forms way before the baby is born.
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  244.  @mrfrosty6219  Not being "pushed by left idiots", it's what the medical experts say. Sex and gender aren't the same thing. Most people are born as either male or female, sure, and depending on that they're assigned the gender of "boy" or "girl". And in the case of trans people, that assignment is inaccurate.
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  245. Nothing's more loving than eternal torture, huh? Twisted mind.
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  246. Can you show us the cliff?
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  247. I didn't mean name the cliff, I mean show us evidence that we're "going to fall off a cliff."
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  248. The bible contains the claim, not the evidence.
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  249. What's the scientific evidence?
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  250.  @Isaacsworlds  How can you know someone who hasn't been shown to exist?
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  251. "thE GaYS Are DEStROYING soCietY!!!" Christ, do you morons hear yourselves?
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  252. What does it mean exactly to "not agree with the LGBTQ+ lifestyle"?
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  253.  @omelia678  I wasn't trying to police your language, I'm mainly curious how one can "disagree" with what seems to be an intrinsic part of someone as a person (their sexuality or gender identity).
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  254. I hope that you can learn to love yourself eventually.
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  255. That's a dumb system then. Imagine if you got a life sentence for pirating a movie.
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  256.  @mizurora9496  Don't bother, they're a troll.
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  257. Correction: You should watch that if you want to see a bunch of Christian propaganda horseshit.
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  258. Phew, for a second I almost thought you forgot to like your own comment.
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  259. @Porto Fino Literally no one wants you here. Just leave. How many years has it been? How many names have you used? Just stop being a homophobic shithead. It's so easy.
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  260. if lightning strikes, it's because zeus threw it from mount olympus whys this complicated
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  261. Oh hey, it's the one joke that transphobes know.
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  262. Marriage isn't just a christian concept. It has existed before your religion, and its meaning has changed a great deal over the years. 2000 years ago the idea of marrying out of love was unheard of.
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  263. Demonstrate that it's real, or it's meaningless to talk about.
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  264. I see my boss on a daily basis. I wouldn't work there if no one had ever seen him.
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  265. "The person with blue hair was perfectly calm but that's just because there were cameras!!!" Lmao give me a break dude
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  266. Who is this supposed to convince?
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  267. Is the existence of thursday strong evidence for the existence of Thor?
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  268. It's not ok to be homophobic.
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  269. Hell isn't real.
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  270. Well, legally you're objectively wrong.
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  271. You expressed your opinion, I expressed mine. What exactly is the problem?
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  272. It seems like Avatar's answer is "Yes"
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  273. Cerastes, can you just fucking lay off these people already? You're not a fucking inquisitor.
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  274.  @alpha9308  Here's Alpha the Freelance Inquisition again... 🙄
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  275. You are religious though. For someone who loves to bring in the dictionary you seem to be pretty selective about it.
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  276. Horseman, when are you going to stop spouting homophobic garbage already? It's been literally months.
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  277. Gay people and trans people are a product of nature. They can't be "fixed" because they are not defects.
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  278. Ah, the comment section was just feeling so nice and peaceful. Oh well.
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  279. I'm glad you can balance the two instead of repressing your sexuality like some LGBTQ+ Christians do.
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  280. Avatar, what really pisses me off is how people insult LGBTQ+ people by trying to be the Christianity police. Isn't it about time you stop this little crusade?
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  281.  @dutchpatriot17  No, because historically being straight has practically always been the norm. We have pride parades to normalize LGBTQ identities. And what do you mean by "lessons on being straight", what's that in reference to?
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  282.  @user-pp8ru6uu1s  Maybe I am, you don't know me.
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  283. You stop commenting, Cerastes. Nobody's asking for your input.
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  284. Junior, nobody chooses who they're attracted to.
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  285. The harm of a sexually abused child is easily demonstrable. As for the consenting adult siblings, is it wrong? I'm not so sure. By the way, Horseshit, I can't help but notice that you keep abandoning threads when you can't make a decent comeback. You still haven't answered whether you worship a bee or not.
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  286. The choice to be in a loving, consenting relationship with someone of the same gender?
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  287. Rape is taking away someone's free will to refuse sex. If god is able to stop rape, but doesn't, does he care more about the free will of a rapist than that of a rape survivor?
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  288. I've talked to plenty of Christians. I've heard the anecdotes of lives turned around, etc. But that is not how we determine the truth of an existence claim. If I tell you I have a magical invisible fairy who can cure headaches, and the day after I tell you about it you suddenly stop having a headache, does that prove my fairy exists? No, existence must be shown with demonstrable evidence. Also, it's sad to see the typical Christian misanthropic view of humanity. While mankind is capable of terrible deeds, I don't think people are inherently evil, unlike you apparently. I don't think you need a magic invisible man to be a good person. All you need is empathy, and an understanding of the consequences of your actions.
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  289. A good father wouldn't demand that a gay child stop being gay. Nor would he send anyone to hell. The father you're describing, whether he exists or not, is a monster. If a human did these things your god supposedly does we would have him rot in prison.
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  290.    I guess he had to get another burner account, huh? Sad. It was getting so nice and quiet here without that shitstain.
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  291. What does "not agreeing with LGBTQ" mean?
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  292. How do you know, Garen?
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  293.  @vigilante9589  Yeah but what the hell does "not agreeing" mean? I don't get it. Someone says "I'm gay" and you say "I disagree"?
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  294. It is the correct word. That's what you have to demonstrate if you want "humans exist" to be evidence for the existence of a god. Complexity doesn't indicate design, design is recognized in contrast to what occurs naturally.
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  295. If you don't poop in your hand, you'll have to hand in your poop.
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  296. And I hate to see believers who are so dogmatic that they forget their human compassion and ability to think critically.
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  297. It's like you've replaced your brain with a book.
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  298. Adam and Eve are fictional.
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  299. Look, I don't agree with Christianity either, and we should prevent them from indoctrinating kids, but they do deserve rights.
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  300. @Alpha And I don't get where you get the crazy idea that it's any of your goddamn business how people identify, but you keep replying to every single LGBTQ+ Christian with "NUH UH!!!" anyway.
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  301. @Çerastes Gravity, air, oxygen (weird that you mention air and oxygen seperately, do you think they're different?) and electricity demonstrably exist. They're measurable. Unlike any gods.
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  302. The "Marxist infiltration of society"? And you were doing so well.
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  303. Sentencing a group of people who aren't hurting anyone to forced celibacy is completely asinine. You have the right to have an opinion, and we have the right to tell you it's horseshit.
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  304. You're wrong.
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  305.  @rickylafleur5823  Nobody chooses who they're attracted to, and there's nothing immoral about same-gender relationships.
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  306. Cerastes, are you physically incapable of writing a comment without liking it? You know what the bible says about pride, don't you?
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  307. James, nice to hear I'm not the only one who feels that way about ol' Horseshit.
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  308.  Tan Tan  So you believe you saw the prophet of Christianity, cool. But if you want to convince anyone else that hell is real, you're gonna want demonstrable evidence, otherwise you might as well be telling gay people to be abstinent to avoid the evil invisible unicorn who attacks people who have gay sex. And for goodness' sake, lay off the ellpises, please. There's other ways to punctuate your sentences.
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  309. If you love someone but hate their sexuality and want them to force themselves to live a life of celibacy, you don't actually love them.
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  310. Don't listen to Sleepy Hollow, ComDam, he's just a raging homophobe. It's great that you realized the impact of your words and are trying to be better.
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  311. Ditto, Jason. Any place you have to share with someone like Avatar is a hell by default.
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  312. Uh, what "lifestyle choices" would those be?
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  313. @Alpha Books aren't just for instructions. They can also be used to tell fictional stories. Tales that can inspire you, make you think, and give you an insight in the mind of the writer and the zeitgeist of the writer's time period. But aren't factually true.
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  314. No, I have a heartbeat because that's how my blood gets pumped around my body to transport oxygen to the various parts that need it. Didn't you pay attention in biology class?
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  315. Jeez Cerastes, are you patrolling this comment section or something? You're always right on top of these people.
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  316. Y'all need Poseidon
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  317. What the fuck is a "scientific meaning of life"?
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  318. Having a gender identity that doesn't match your sex can cause a great deal of gender dysphoria, and transitioning alleviates that.
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  319. Cerastes, you're having this discussion because you can't tolerate the existence of LGBTQ+ Christians and feel the need to sealion every single one.
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  320. @Megatronix No, people being rude to you isn't proof that your religion is correct. You're just an asshole.
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  321.  @nierautomato  There were a bunch of other accounts that came and went, all with a profile picture of a cartoon of a black woman, that frequently said "buhm" just like he just did. As well as a plethora of other phrases, many of them highly homophobic, all of them spelled slightly wrong so as to get past the filters. This man has a bizarre obsession with being homophobic to strangers.
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  322. No, humans literally define those things.
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  323.  @murdoch1717  Well yeah, things like "gay people shouldn't be able to get married" or "being gay is something wicked and evil" are intolerant positions. And part of tolerance is not tolerating intolerance. It's not hypocrisy, it's homophobes wanting their bigotry to be heard and people not falling for it.
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  324. Sleepy Hollow, I am here to warn you. The lifestyle you have chosen (that of the obnoxious Christian zealot) comes with serious consequences. It means that people are far more likely to say things like "Oh for fuck's sake, here comes that zealot again, screaming about gay people." Repent, Sleepy Hollow! And maybe one day, you too can become a decent human being!
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  325. According to your ancient superstitions maybe.
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  326. @Creative You're projecting. Fuck off already, would ya?
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  327. You don't choose who you're attracted to.
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  328. Sure, you can value science and still hold unscientific beliefs.
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  329. Then this god needs to get their eyes checked.
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  330. Disgustingly ignorant comment. Non-hetero sexualities are not something to be "cured".
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  331. Joshua, I just fucking HATE your sexuality. I just, really fucking despise it. It makes me sick to my stomach. But I love ya! Yeah, doesn't sound very loving, does it?
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  332. Can you really love someone if you hate a fundamental part of them?
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  333. @Creative If your "evidence" is that your book "predicted" that you'd go around acting like a homophobic ass and we'd get tired of it, that'd be a self-fulfilling prophecy. And yes, yes, "UHH ACTUALLY HOMOPHOBIA ISN'T REAL BECAUSE NOBODY IS SCARED OF THE GAYS", we've heard it all before. You're just a broken record at this point.
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  334. Maybe this homophobic god should stop desiring a path for gay people that requires them to be celibate.
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  335. Cerastes, you should stay abstinent from commenting here.
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  336. Cerastes, you need to find a hobby that isn't gatekeeping your religion against LGBTQ+ people. It's time to stop.
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  337. I've explained this to you before. I'm only intolerant towards intolerance, like your intolerance toward LGBTQ+ people. Either you have a very selective memory or you're being blatantly dishonest. And the more I talk to you, the more I lean toward the latter theory.
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  338. Is it me or has it become really obvious that this Ronald McDonald character is yet another Megatronix/Caesar/Alpha/etc sockpuppet account?
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  339. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they
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  340. And if house cats were the size of lions we'd all get eaten. But they're not, and LGBTQ+ people are still a minority. So what the hell is your point?
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  341. Holy shit Cerastes, put down the script. Youtube comments are not for evangelizing.
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  342. Why would you follow, let alone worship such a horrible god?
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  343. He's been coming "very soon" for about two thousand years now.
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  344. "They" is a pronoun that doesn't signify any gender, that tends to be used by people who identify as nonbinary.
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  345.  @dabirdie1797  Damn right! Trans men are men! They aren't women!
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  346.  @dabirdie1797  Nobody's "born a man", people are born as babies, ya dingus.
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  347.  @dabirdie1797  Ugh, this would've been a way better "gotcha" if you hadn't started asking all these questions.
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  348.  @dabirdie1797  A trans man is someone who was assigned female at birth, but identifies as a man, and is thus, a man.
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  349.  @dabirdie1797  No, yeah.
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  350.  @dabirdie1797  False equivalence, because unlike gender, species is not a matter of how you identify.
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  351. Psychology does not call it a mental illness. Read the DSM-5.
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  352. What exactly is it that you "don't support" though?
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  353.  @AndrewSuaste  You don't think kids should learn that gay people exist? Should they be aware that straight people exist?
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  354. Like fucking clockwork.
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  355. There's nothing loving about hating someone's sexuality.
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  356. I think it's just that they tend to experience discrimination from the same sources, so they stick together in solidarity. That's the idea, anyway. Unfortunately some people support the LGB part but then discriminate against trans folks.
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  357. Watch out, a guy names Cerastes is about to come preach at you because you said that.
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  358. You said yourself that you believe no one is good.
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  359. Hey, I just asked God and he's cool with LGBTQ+ people.
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  360. This is your brain on religious indoctrination. A sad sight.
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  361. There's no P in there. Also, demonstrate hell is real, or these threats are meaningless.
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  362. It's natural because it occurs in nature. Not everyone's into people of the same gender but some of us clearly are, and we can observe this in animals as well.
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  363. That's right, we have to bring some good ol' leftism back!
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  364. Homophobia means an irrational fear of or dislike of gay people or homosexuality.
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  365. Cerastes, stop sealioning this 12 year old. Jesus fucking Christ.
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  366. Hey, it's great that you guys want to normalize physical displays of platonic affection. But there's also nothing wrong with two dudes boning. Your religion's simply wrong about that.
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  367. Isn't it kind of circular that one must first believe in the Christian deity in order to receive evidence? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
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  368. No, you can't. "Not agreeing with LGBTQ+" is homophobic. Gay people never chose to be gay, and their sexuality doesn't harm anyone.
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  369. A sad little world.
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  370. Millions of years of evolution, not Adam and Eve
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  371. Great, more religious nonsense from Avatar. You think you have all the answers, but you have none.
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  372.  @kee-kraze  Trans people can choose to either transition or not, but they're still trans either way.
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  373. Sleepy Hollow continues to be the very image of irony.
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  374. You keep rambling about people not knowing what words mean, while you keep using your own little definitions.
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  375. Some people don't identify strongly as male or female so they prefer a more gender neutral pronoun. "They" as a singular pronoun has been used in the English language for quite some time now for people who are of an unknown gender, lack any gender, or don't identify with a gender. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they
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  376. There's a time and a place. Going into a discussion with nothing but a sermon will lose you all credibility you might have. Also, while I can't speak for everyone, but I know I as an unbeliever would not be convinced by mere preaching. If you want to convince us of the truth of your claims, demonstrate them with evidence.
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  377. Here's Avatar the Christianity Police again, here to tell everyone what a Real Christian™ is. 🙄
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  378. I never asked for a human sacrifice. And "surrender"? Is he threatening me?
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  379. He's had it explained to him plenty of times. He just doesn't want to understand it.
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  380. When it feels right AND doesn't hurt anyone.
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  381.  @SWillTiamG  False.
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  382. And apparently, he'll stop loving gay people if they don't force themselves to live a life of celibacy, ignoring the sexuality they were born with and condemning themselves to a life devoid of romantic love or sex. How loving!
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  383. It does a piss poor job of telling us that the earth is round then, as ancient peoples believed that the earth was flat for centuries. The bible even describes the sky as a glass dome with water above it.
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  384.  @ILikeYourMoxxie  I'm so sorry you have to deal with all of that. Wishing you all the best and hoping things get better for you.
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  385. Don't bother apologizing to Cerastes.
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  386. Cerastes, don't accuse others of intellectual dishonesty when you're the one who sealions LGBTQ+ Christians with copied and pasted arguments, and refuses to back up any of their claims with any sort of reputable scientific source.
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  387. Homosexuality is not wrong. It hurts no one. And gay people can't just decide to be straight one day.
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  388. Dylan, you truly are profoundly ignorant.
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  389. Brian, make sure you actually know what pansexuality is before you comment.
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  390.  @louifortini4725  Wait, which troops are those? There haven't been any wars on US soil except the revolutionary and civil wars, so what soldiers are defending LGBTQ+ rights for Americans?
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  391.  @louifortini4725  I'm not American, but if I were, how would US army soldiers be fighting for my freedom?
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  392. What do you have against the sun?
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  393. "Incest is bad! What, there's incest in the bible? No no no they uhhhh shit uhh GOD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS OKAY"
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  394. Get a load of this guy, diagnosing people in youtube videos with demons
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  395.  @lorenzoperez552  That's incorrect though. People can identify as nonbinary, as something besides just man or woman. And even if you consider biological sex to be the same as gender, there's still not just two. Many people exist who don't fit neatly into the "male" or "female" category. There's people with a different chromosomal makeup than just XX or XY, people with both sets of genitalia, or people with secondary sex characteristics that don't match their reproductive organs. To say "there's only two genders" is reductive to the point of blatant falsehood. Nonbinary individuals are only a subset of trans people though. Most of them simply identify as the gender opposite the one they were assigned at birth.
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  396.  @lorenzoperez552  Again, that's reductive to the point that it's simply false. Sex is more complicated than that.
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  397.  @lorenzoperez552  I mean, no one's forcing you to accept anything. But like they say, facts don't care about your feelings.
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  398. Honest question, what do you mean when you say you "don't agree with the LGBT+"? What is it specifically that you don't agree with? I'm asking this to Hopie Dopie specifically btw, others needn't reply.
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  399. Cerastes, are you the Christianity police or something? Stop pretending your way is the only way to follow a religion. And for the love of your god, stop liking your own comments already!
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  400. Dude, don't bother apologizing to Avatar. He bothers everyone with his homophobic bible thumping. You are not in the wrong.
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  401. Maybe they just think it looks cool, ever think about that
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  402. You are the blind one, because you can only see things through the heavily tinted lens of your religion.
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  403. Christianity is a religion you dink.
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  404. I don't believe in your god because there's no good evidence. Not because I like sin or anything like that.
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  405. If you seriously believe Adam and Eve are historical figures, you are completely divorced from reality.
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  406. You fundies seem to have a hard time understanding the concept of consent. Pretty worrying.
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  407. Sex outside of marriage is fine as long as it's there's understanding and respect.
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  408. Why does he create people with horrible birth defects on purpose then?
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  409. I love you, but I HATE your sexuality. Does that really sound loving?
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  410. Nothing evil about same-sex relationships.
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  411. Same-sex relationships hurt no one. It doesn't affect you in any way. I really don't care how your imaginary friend feels about it.
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  412. How do you know?
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  413. There's absolutely no reason to hate yourself over loving people of the same gender.
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  414. Visiting brothels is a choice whereas sexuality or gender identity is not.
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  415. There's no demonstrable evidence for this alleged "higher power"'s existence.
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  416. Hell isn't real.
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  417.  @robgarry7858  What's satin gonna do, turn into expensive bedsheets?
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  418. If you're gonna claim it's fact, let's see the science. What's your source? And please don't just post a link to a video from some conservative propaganda channel.
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  419. Not poisoning the well, I just know you have a certain habit 🙃
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  420. How the fuck is marrying a "religious lifestyle"
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  421. Who is this meant to convince?
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  422. There is no 2nd chance in Hell !!!
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  423. You're delusional if you think there's a heaven and hell.
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  424. Even in a comment section filled with nonsensical religious claims, this is one of the dumbest comment chains I've seen.
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  425. I'm always confused by the phrase "I don't support the LGBTQ", what is it exactly that you don't support?
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  426. UHH WELL ACTUALLY HE IS THERE YOU JUST CAN'T DETECT HIM IN ANY WAY, NOR SHOULD YOU WANT TO BECAUSE MY BOOK SAYS SO!!!
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  427. Is it morally wrong for a man to have sex with a sterile woman?
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  428. Look, if your religious beliefs tell you that homosexual relationships are sinful, you are free to abstain from romantic relationships with other women. But you don't get to dictate how other people live their lives. You can express how much you dislike gay marriage and whatnot, but other people also have the freedom to call you a bigoted sack of scum.
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  429. Common sense is a largely meaningless concept.
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  430. For fucks sake Cerastes, let LGBT Christians be LGBT Christians. No one asked you to be the Jesus Police.
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  431. What's so strange about that?
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  432. There's only one explanation, god is gay
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  433. Oh hey, you made a new account huh?
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  434. Well, at least all the nonsense you've posted in the past has been blasted into oblivion now. Try not to make such a mess this time, yeah?
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  435. She said don't @ her
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  436. You know, in most fairy tales, the being who destroys towns with huge fireballs is the bad guy.
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  437. A sexuality isn't a value or a lifestyle though.
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  438. Thanks for demonstrating my point, Horseshit, you absolute moron.
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  439. Oh shit we've got an enlightened centrist here
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  440. Why was a human sacrifice required to atone for the infractions of humanity, many of which committed in previous generations?
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  441. Piss off with this no true Christian bullshit. Bisexuality is fine. If your religion tells you it's wrong, you're wrong.
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  442. Cerastes, are you a bot? Legitimately curious.
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  443. Show me a recent scientific paper that says there is a strict gender binary.
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  444. It's obvious where you draw the line: consent. Children and animals can't consent to marriage as they lack the capacity to understand what exactly they're getting into. As long as both parties consent, there's no problem. And if you arbitrarily give gay marriages a different name that's a clear cut case of discrimination. Imagine if you had a different term for marriages between black people.
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  445. Cerastes, when are you going to stop sealioning LGBTQ+ Christians with copied and pasted replies? It's getting old, bud. And I'm still waiting on a scientific source for your claim that no one is born gay.
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  446. Cerastes, do you have a memory problem? I've already told you that I'm not interested in the conservative propaganda video you keep throwing around. It's not a scientific source by any means.
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  447. Not poisoning any wells. The video you keep linking is not a scientific source, and as such, is not what I asked for.
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  448. Nice try shoving the burden of proof onto me. But you still have not given me a scientific source. If people truly aren't born gay, as you claim, surely you can find a peer-reviewed scientific article stating that?
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  449. @Alpha Just crawl up your own ass already.
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  450. Pretty sure my parents were more involved in my creation process than your deity was. And being gay is not wrong, because it doesn't hurt anyone. I couldn't five two shits if your deity feels icky about it.
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  451. What makes you think there's such a thing as "eternally happy" in the first place?
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  452. If someone within your church were to discover that they're gay, would they be discouraged from entering any same-gender relationships?
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  453. But wouldn't it be hard for them to leave the temple to pursue their feelings when it would mean leaving their entire community, including family, behind?
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  454. Your god hasn't even been demonstrated to exist. Until then, the very concept of sin is meaningless. Instead of trying to convince the world to follow your rules, give us a good reason first.
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  455. How did I prove god's existence then?
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  456. What do you mean by "not supporting LGBTQ+"?
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  457. Sexuality and gender identity are as much part of a person's identity as the color of their skin.
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  458. What specifically do you "not agree with"?
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  459. Those are in no way contradictory positions.
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  460. Durrr acronym too big
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  461. If Jim Jones was wrong, how did he convince 918 people to commit suicide? The answer is: because people are wrong sometimes, and that wrongness can be extraordinarily harmful.
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  462. Not everyone believes in your all-powerful homophobic deity.
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  463.  Daniel Rivas  Or no one will be.
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  464.  Daniel Rivas  Allegedly.
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  465. I just think THE STRAIGHT COMMUNITY needs to stop pushing their LIFESTYLE on to EVERYONE ELSE... especially on people's children!
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  466. You think LGBTQ+ people exist because of... boredom? That's a special kind of ignorance.
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  467. There's nothing to forgive
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  468. Why is this god so utterly incompetent at communicating with me? I've never heard so much as one word from the guy. Not impressive for an allegedly all-powerful being.
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  469.  @edmin5478  I can communicate to you without you having to pray or "open your heart" or whatever. Why is this allegedly all-powerful god limited in ways that I am not?
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  470.  @edmin5478  I can't really talk to someone who I'm not convinced exists. If this god exists and wants to speak with me, he can say hello first.
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  471. Then is it not genocide for a man to ejaculate without producing a child? Think of how many human lives are lost in each discarded tissue!
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  472. So you believe in a god because you want there to be a god?
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  473. Christianity is not only without evidence, but it also simply a disgusting set of beliefs. Submission to a cosmic tyrant.
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  474. Why is your god so consistently portrayed as a genocidal maniac?
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  475. You don't believe in Santa? Heh, have fun with your coal next week, Santa doubter.
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  476. How do you know?
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  477. Can I ask why it's dependent on belief?
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  478. Why would a god create gay people and demand that they're straight?
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  479.  @souhiyori8032  Okay but what is "the idea" that you "disagree" with?
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  480. Cerastes, you forgot to give this one a thumbs up
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  481. You eat meat? What's next, eating human flesh?
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  482. What role do you think "gender biology" plays in society and how are people trying to change it?
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  483. What are they doing, and why is it "wrong"?
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  484. I like the sun, it gives us warmth and light
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  485. Well then that's a completely asinine moral system. Imagine if our legal system had the same punishment for pirating a movie and murdering ten people.
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  486.  Tan Tan  It's time to stop.
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  487. Cerastes, every time you accuse others of not being intellectually honest, an irony angel gets its wings.
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  488.  @alemonatigaming2799  Aren't you a little young to be a homophobic religious fundamentalist?
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  489. It's true that the existence or non-existence of a god isn't dependent on belief. But it's never been demonstrated to exist.
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  490. BUT BOOK SAYS IT TRUE
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  491. The god of the bible sounds like a mafioso. Get on yer knees and ya won't have to suffer through eternal hellfire, capische? You worship that?
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  492. Adam and Eve are fictional. Also, pretty sure in the story Lilith was made before Eve, but she was too independent for Adam's taste.
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  493. What does it mean to "not support LGBTQ" to you?
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  494. You're delusional. Same-sex relationships and marriages hurt no one. Your inane conspiracy theories have led you to a place where you're arguing against things that don't impact you at all, for no good reason.
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  495. Man, you sure owned those trans people epic style in this imaginary conversation you made up. You know gender and sex are different things right?
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  496. Sure you can. Christianity is already an offshoot of Judaism, which itself is an offshoot of ancient Semitic polytheistic religions. Not to mention Christianity's countless denominations, which all seem to differ in their beliefs a little.
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  497. Why do I always get the feeling your main goal is to be as obnoxious as humanly possible?
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  498. If you want to spread the "good news", as it were, you should probably focus more on showing demonstrable evidence of these supernatural claims, and less on spouting homophobic bigotry.
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  499. Still homophobic.
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  500.  @mr.lagafact4731  The data does not support the notion that children are any worse off when raised by same-gender parents. And lose the scare quotes around marriage, homophobe.
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  501. Don't get your hopes up.
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  502.  @dueforabbl  How is homosexuality an action?
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  503.  @jacksongrey1627  There's no good reason to not support that.
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  504.  @dueforabbl  I don't think that and I'm glad you don't discriminate against anyone.
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  505. Anti-vaxxers vs Viruses
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  506. You just can't resist, huh Orinoco?
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  507. Telling literally every believer who doesn't share your homophobia that they're not "GENUINE CHRISTIANS™". Or in this case, telling someone that their friends aren't "GENUINE CHRISTIANS™".
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  508. I don't hate the Christian deity, nor do I hate the people who believe in him. I hate smug assholes who arbitrarily tell other people how to live and think they have all the answers.
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  509. I don't struggle with sin, I don't care about your deity's list of things he doesn't like.
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  510.  @rosejustrose4489  I'd love to see a scientific study supporting this notion.
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  511. Gay people getting married doesn't influence "traditional marriages" in any way.
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  512. Science doesn't say anything about pronouns.
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  513. You are so close to understanding utilitarianism, and then it all gets corrupted with the "but god sez it bad" nonsense. Murdering someone causes great harm. Stealing candy causes very little harm. Being in a same-sex relationship causes no harm.
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  514. 1. I didn't even mention sexual intercourse. But straight people are just as capable of getting any of the conditions you mentioned. Next! 2. I don't care about homophobes getting upset. Next! 3. Generic gay panic nonsense. Next! Oh, you ran out of points. Wasn't much there, huh? It's almost like this is mostly about your irrational aversion to gay people. I wonder if there's a word for that...
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  515. Every god is the god that its believers want it to be.
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  516. Every believer thinks their god is the one true god.
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  517.  @alpha9308  Hey, you give hate, you get it back.
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  518. Children are not being corrupted. The gay pride parade is about having pride in defiance of a world that tells them to be ashamed. There's no straight pride parade because there's no need for it.
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  519. You can either be a good person, or a good Christian. I prefer good people.
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  520. I don't agree with your misanthropic view of humanity.
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  521. Hitler is responsible for the deaths of millions. I'm sure you didn't do anything that bad. Any belief system that convinces you that you did, seems pretty harmful to me.
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  522. Your video is mere conversative propaganda, and by no means a reputable source.
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  523. If someone doesn't really identify as male or female sometimes they prefer a gender neutral pronoun.
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  524. Why would I "repent" to someone who hasn't been demonstrated to exist? It's like if I told you Harry Potter doesn't want you to jaywalk.
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  525. It's absolutely natural, it's been observed in lots of species of animal.
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  526. If someone tells you their name, you call them by that name, right? Even if it's a weird name? I don't see how using someone's preferred pronouns is any different. And when you're in the changing room, do you ask to see everyone's genitals to make sure they're a biological man? Maybe ask them about their chromosomes?
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  527. Pascal's wager is a garbage argument, Sleepy Hollow.
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  528. The whole "what if you're wrong???" shtick.
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  529. You're completely wrong about it being taught behavior. Consider the case of David Reimer. As a baby his circumcision went wrong and he lost his genitalia. The parents took him to a psychologist as a toddler because they were worried about how he would grow up without a penis. The psychologist, John Money, was a strong believer in the concept that gender was something learned and not innate, so he suggested David be raised as a girl. However, David ended up suffering gender dysphoria from this during his childhood, to the point of suicidal depression. He transitioned back to male in his adulthood but ended up committing suicide. You can read more about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer So you see, a parent can't just raise a boy as a girl or a girl as a boy to "create" a trans person. That idea is completely divorced from reality. If someone is trans, that is how they were born, not a product of how they were raised. Also, your whole bathroom thing betrays more of your ignorance. All trans people want is to live normally as the gender they truly are, and to infer some sort of nefarious purpose behind wanting to use the right bathroom is asinine.
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  530. "Cuz the book says so"
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  531. It's not that serious? How would you feel if you were denied service because you're a Christian? It's against the law and it's pure discrimination.
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  532. Sorry but that's bullcrap. People don't "turn gay" from negative experiences, and you can't pray someone straight.
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  533. Wow yeah, I wonder why they wouldn't feel welcome in an institution that views their sexuality as a crime.
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  534. What is exactly that you're "disagreeing" with though?
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  535. What would you consider "forcing people to accept it"?
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  536. It can be what?
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  537. Society demonstrably exists, unlike gods.
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  538. Marriage is a social construct made by humans, and predates Christianity. I really do wish you'd stop spouting nonsense already Alpha & Omega, or whatever your name is this week.
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  539. You believe that the Christian god predates Christianity. I do not.
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  540. Accepting gay people does not lead to child molestation. That's a slippery slope fallacy. The truth is, some people are attracted to people of the same gender. And there's nothing wrong with consenting same-gender relationships.
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  541. What verse talks about weed?
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  542. Society has been getting more moral since we've started being more accepting of people regardless of their race, gender, or sexuality. Ignorant people like you never seem to realize that.
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  543. The very concept of your god is a product of the beast known as religion.
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  544. Why should anyone believe in sin?
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  545. Homosexuality is natural and amoral. Stop whining about it already.
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  546. Science is limited to the natural world, and science is our most reliable tool for distinguishing truth from falsehood we have, bar none. So if I want to honestly learn about the universe, I too am limited to the natural world, as nothing supernatural can scientifically be demonstrated to exist. To be "unbound by science" is to not care about what can be demonstrated to be true, and what fails to meet this standard.
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  547. How can you love someone while hating their sexuality?
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  548. But the thing is that being gay or bi is not a choice.
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  549. But being gay isn't a fault.
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  550. Well you're calling it a sin, right? Which as I understand it is some sort of crime against god, even though it isn't a choice and hurts no one.
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  551. Alright, apologies for the misinterpretation then.
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  552. I answer to the rest of humankind. To society.
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  553. What they "need to hear"? Actually demonstrate that your god exists first, or otherwise you're just yelling at people that your imaginary friend doesn't like it when gay people don't force themselves to live celibate lives.
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  554. Don't agree with/approve of what?
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  555. Cerastes would you stop sealioning these people already?
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  556. A lot of people do tend to gravitate towards a certain gender though in regards to their sexuality. Labels can be useful in a practical sense. It's like saying you're a vegetarian so that there'll be more than hamburgers and sausages at the barbecue.
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  557. No one deserves to burn eternally for any crime. And especially for things that aren't harmful like being gay.
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  558. @Rat Race Your chosen behavior of being a homophobic shithead shouldn't be accepted.
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  559. For gay men, many other men are nurturing, fun, sexy, funny, understanding and caring. And gay people are just as much a product of nature as straight people are.
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  560. Why are you capitalizing every word? And Shapiro doesn't really do these types of talks, because he generally only looks good arguing against college freshmen in an auditorium where most of the audience is on his side.
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  561.  @aprylflynn526  You're delusional.
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  562.  @aprylflynn526  You're delusional because you just irrationally deny the existence of people who aren't straight. Me pointing that out and you brushing it off doesn't make you stronger, it just makes you perpetually wrong.
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  563.  @aprylflynn526  Lesbians don't "need a man". If they're lesbians, they won't enjoy sex with a man. You're being super homophobic right now. Very irrational.
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  564.  @aprylflynn526  If the shoe fits.
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  565. And that is why your moral system makes no sense. Why would cheating be as bad as taking someone's life? The consequences are nowhere near comparable.
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  566. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they
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  567. Citation needed
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  568. Why do unbelievers go into hellfire?
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  569. Oh shit, we got an enlightened centrist here!
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  570. You can be gay and pretend not to be gay. You can be gay and be in a straight relationship. Still gay though.
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  571. Hell, people who are sexually attracted to kids and animals probably can't help it. The difference though is that being in a relationship with someone of the same gender doesn't hurt anyone. Also, no, not a choice or a lifestyle. You don't choose who you're attracted to. Humans are just one species of animal of many that has specimens that display attraction to those of the same gender.
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  572. Too many studies, huh? Could you link some?
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  573. You made a claim. You back it up. I'm not doing work to make your argument for you, Jim.
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  574. Yes how very supportive to dismiss a group of people as "sjw bullshit"
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  575. What's crazy about that statement?
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  576. If there was extraordinary evidence, there wouldn't need to be apologists.
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  577. Straight people get those too, my dude.
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  578. You're the one who continues to not get it, Horseman.
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  579. Wrong.
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  580. The source of love is the human brain. If you want to claim otherwise, prove it with demonstrable evidence.
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  581. This sounds completely unhinged to anyone who doesn't already buy into it.
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  582. Why?
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  583. I don't give a fuck if you're straight but if you act straight fuck off
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  584. I don't choose not to believe. I'm forced to withhold belief because of the lack of demonstrable evidence for your deity.
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  585. But hell ain't real So
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  586. Forcing someone to live a life of celibacy because of their sexuality, when all they want is a consenting relationship, is completely asinine.
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  587. What the hell does that even mean?
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  588. Intersex people exist.
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  589. Evolution over many successive generations, not Adam and Eve
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  590. One's sexuality is not a choice.
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  591. No, you literally can't. You're confusing sexuality with actions. Sexuality is who you're attracted to.
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  592. But nobody chooses who they're attracted to.
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  593. And sexuality, including homosexuality, is that attraction. Not the choice to be with a certain individual.
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  594. Gender and sex are not the same thing.
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  595. What exactly is "not right" about two women or two men in love who aren't hurting anyone?
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  596. Avatar, just FYI, you're a bigoted zealot and nobody's asking you to act as the Christianity police here. It's time to stop.
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  597. "Merciful"? Seems like common decency not to murder someone. You have one strange sense of morality.
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  598. Horseshit, what makes you think huge groups of people wouldn't follow a religion that isn't actually true? You realize that Islam has nearly as many adherents as Christianity does? And that before these Abrahamic religions there were other religions that just about everyone believed in?
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  599. The burden of proof is on you because you're coming here and making these claims. If you don't want to demonstrate you're correct, why even bother coming here with these unsubstantiated claims?
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  600. "Evidence has already backed these statements up." No, it hasn't. You're making claims. Provide the evidence, or they will be rejected.
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  601. I mean, incest has a great potential to be harmful. A romantic relationship between siblings and especially parents and children has a huge potential to be unhealthy, even when everyone involved is a consenting adult. But I don't think it's a black and white issue. Is it immoral for two cousins to be in a relationship? What if they're gay or can't have children?
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  602. Not believing in sin isn't the same thing as believing anything goes. A list of a deity's personal dislikes has nothing to do with the morality or immorality of actions.
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  603. No one's "gotta do it".
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  604.  @justcedric1558  Only if we abolish capitalism in favor of an economic system that more effectively targets the material needs of all humans.
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  605. What's contradictory about what they said?
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  606.  Tan Tan  Dude, stop
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  607. Do you think mass murderers and shoplifters should both get the same punishment under our legal system?
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  608. So you're saying that God is worse at making a comprehensive and effective legal system than humans are?
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  609. The whole "love the sinner, hate the sin" thing still seems hateful to me. Being gay, trans, bi, etc is part of who someone is. When you say you love them but "hate the sin" you're saying you hate an aspect of them. One that isn't harming anyone.
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  610. This will offend some but this is actual fact. Gender expression is far more diverse than a simple binary system, and even biological sex can't definitively be divided into "male and female" due to the existence of intersex people.
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  611. "If you love me you will obey my commands" is what an abuser would say tbh
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  612. How are those two things mutually exclusive?
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  613. @Alpha Thanks for showing once again that your standard for evidence is laughable.
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  614. Again, the bible claims it, but I don't see how you can verify that it actually happened. Especially considering people generally don't come back three days after they're tortured to death.
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  615. It's always unnerved me that people can root for the being who destroys cities. Usually in stories that would be the bad guy.
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  616. Being in love with someone of the same gender does not qualify as "something you should not be doing". Nor is it something that warrants mass murder, you monster.
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  617. That makes no sense at all.
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  618. Sin and morality are seperate issues.
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  619. Oh great, the other zealot's back.
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  620. So it's not okay to be in a relationship with an infertile woman? After all, if it was okay, why didn't God give her the ability to have children?
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  621.  @alpha9308  I still wonder sometimes if it's stupidity or dishonesty you're full of.
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  622.  @jeffreycraig4493  Way to miss my point.
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  623.  @jeffreycraig4493  Or two men. Or two women. eNd Of StOrY
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  624. Blake, do you ask everyone you know to show you their genitals? And do you demand to know what chromosomes they were born with? If not, you don't assign people pronouns by their sex, but by their gender expression.
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  625. Sexuality is not a lifestyle. And it's increasingly being accepted, not promoted. You're just ranting about conspiracy theory nonsense.
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  626. The most insufferable kind of theist is the kind that thinks they know to be correct. Then again, you've already admitted to being a troll. So do everyone a favor and find something better to do with your time than being an idiot for fun.
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  627. "Crime" is a human construct. Certain actions are deemed by other humans as "criminal". A "sin" is just a crime in the eyes of a god, but for that to have any meaning, you'd have to demonstrate said god.
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  628. Gods aren't democratically elected though. In that sense, the Christian god is more like a totalitarian dictator.
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  629. Allegedly. Seems like all of those things come from the earth. You wanna prove a god is responsible for those things, prove it.
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  630. Oh okay, he waited a bit before he committed genocide, that makes the genocide not bad anymore. Do you even hear yourself?
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  631. We need to leave religious nonsense behind to move forward as a society. And LGBTQ+ people need to be accepted if we want to create a world where people are truly equal.
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  632. Come on, you've almost got it Cerastes!
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  633. Two men or two women being in love is fantastic though. If this god person allegedly says it's wrong, then he's simply incorrect.
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  634. What if it's your employer who consistently misgenders you?
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  635.  @chasbarill999  But should an employee have to find other employment if their employer is discriminating against them? Why is the right of the employer to misgender more important than the right of the employee to not be misgendered? Should a business owner be able to call his black employees the n-word? And weird transphobic attempt at a joke aside, my pronouns are he/him.
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  636. Dude, talking to Cerastes is pointless. He sealions everyone who doesn't follow his religion exactly how he does.
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  637. Gamora is the green girl from Guardians of the Galaxy
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  638. Why don't you support the idea that black people shouldn't be disproportionately killed by police officers?
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  639. I only hear that from Christian anti-LGBT apologists and propagandists.
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  640. I really don't think that standpoint is representative of BLM as a whole.
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  641. I don't think you have to avoid a label just because there's problematic fringe elements. But I guess to a certain degree I can see where you're coming from at least.
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  642. Partner? Significant other? Plenty of gender neutral terms for something like that.
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  643. What you should do with gay people is let them live their goddamn lives.
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  644. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they
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  645. @Pitts DaThird Christ, another account? Don't you think you've made enough?
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  646. Oh man, nice insult. Definitely worth the thumbs up you gave it.
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  647. Consent or no consent is precisely what dictates the morality aspect. How are you not getting that?
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  648. "Oooooh aaaaany second now!" -Christians for like the past 2000 years
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  649. I wouldn't hold my breath. And why exactly would I trust you?
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  650. Plenty of people say they've got super duper special information from a god or some such. But none of them have been able to actually demonstrate the truth of their claims, including you.
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  651. None of that proves that a god had anything to do with it. You're just asserting that it has to be the creation of a god because you can't think of any other explanation. That's called the argument from ignorance fallacy. And you're right, you don't need miracles or signs to prove that a god exists. You need evidence.
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  652. Why do I need a better explanation? Until you have demonstrable evidence, you don't have an explanation, you have a hypothesis.
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  653. Shellfish. So if you like shrimp, I've got bad news for you.
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  654. Wait, what "decision"?
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  655. Cerastes keeps yapping about intellectual dishonesty, seemingly still unaware of the irony.
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  656. Cerastes, are you ever going to give an actual scientific source rather than a conservative Christian propaganda video? (spoilers: no you aren't)
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  657. Lmao
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  658. That's why I think that if a god exists, it's a cruel one. But I don't believe that one does.
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  659. Cerastes, what did I say about sealioning?
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  660. Ok Cerastes, who is paying you to patrol this comment section full time?
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  661. Just wondefing what the motivation is for replying with largely copied and pasted fundamentalist drivel to literally every LGBTQ+ Christian in the comments section.
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  662. I don't really care about the church, I just want LGBT people to be able to marry legally. Luckily it's already like that in many places.
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  663. DURR DiD yOu MeAn ReCoVeRiNg GaY???
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  664. Why are you "totally against LGBT"?
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  665. Uhuh, insanely restrictive sexual norms are super great. People love staying virgins until they're bonded with someone for the rest of their lives. Face it, not everyone wants kids. Not everyone wants to be monogamous. And not everyone is fucking straight. Let people live their damn lives.
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  666. Tell that to the Christian politicians trying to create legislation based on religious beliefs.
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  667. Christianity is what's motivating you to leave these vile, horrible comments against gay people here. That's not love. It's a hell of a lot closer to evil.
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  668. Note. The existence of heaven and hell have never been demonstrated.
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  669. Why do you try to pretend that romantic love between people of the same gender can't exist? You can try categorizing it as "friendship" or "lust" all you want, gay people fall in love the same way straight people do. And no, one's sexuality is not a choice.
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  670. You're just a moron, sorry
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  671. I think you're reading way too much into simple slang.
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  672. If he wanted to make people believe, why did he pick such a terrible way to convince people by getting himself executed in a time where there were no reliable means of documenting historical events and storing information? Why didn't he wait until cameras were invented?
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  673. Because if he was going to reveal his existence, why not make sure that people actually have demonstrable evidence?
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  674. Because we know that employees have employers. It's easily demonstrable. What isn't demonstrable is that universes have gods.
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  675. At the end of the day, the existence of your god has never been demonstrated.
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  676. Marriage at one point was more of a business transaction between families. In an age where people marry who they love, why restrict it to straight couples? There's no logical reason to.
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  677. It's literally just about being respectful. Not about somehow knowing everyone's pronouns and never getting anything wrong. Just respecting people's wishes in how you address them. What's wrong with that?
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  678.  @blessedbythebest5517  That didn't answer my question but okay.
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  679. Adam and Eve are fictional.
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  680. No it's pretty much a proven fact that humans descended from other apes, and didn't come from a guy and his rib wife.
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  681. Why would they show their Christian friend a Christian propaganda video?
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  682. I thought you had a girlfriend, Avatar.
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  683. I'm sorry that you feel the need to deny yourself romantic relationships.
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  684. Trans people exist, whether you think it's "taking it too far" or not.
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  685. That's odd Orinoco, there don't seem to be any comments left from you from longer than 8 hours ago. Did you get banned again? And then did you make a new account in an attempt to circumvent that ban? Again?
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  686. So do you just go back and delete all of your own comments then? What an odd thing to do.
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  687. I don't care if you're a Christian, a Muslim, or a Scientologist. You're clearly dedicated to spouting bigotry on here for whatever reason, so I'll keep being here to counter your nonsense and make sure to report it every time you feel like throwing a slur or two in there, which apparently is quite often.
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  688. Cerastes, stop spouting the same unscientific nonsense over and over. You're objectively wrong.
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  689.  profile 21  Just report them.
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  690. Moronic comment.
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  691. Wow got em
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  692. There's no P in there.
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  693. Christianity is a religion. A personal relationship with an undetectable person is impossible.
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  694. It is, by definition.
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  695.  @phoenix1985  Stop feeding the troll, it doesn't help anyone.
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  696. I don't know, your bible sketches a picture of a pretty evil god. One that commands his armies to kill women and children, commands a man to sacrifice his son, and even wipes out nearly all life on the planet. Not that any of it's true of course, but as a literary character he's pretty nasty.
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  697. Who you're attracted to is not something that only influences your life in your bedroom. Are straight people just straight in the bedroom? Or do they have weddings, hold hands in public, declare their love for each other, and so much more?
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  698. Hey Avatar, this comment I'm writing right now is inspired by God. Homosexuality is natural and amoral. Anything else previously written about the subject in Christian literature is now invalid. Prove me wrong.
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  699. Actually, I love you even more. So give your life to me and accept me as your lord and savior.
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  700.  @user-pp8ru6uu1s  So now gods have to explain themselves to mortals all of a sudden?
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  701.  @user-pp8ru6uu1s  Do you get this skeptical with the Christian deity too? Or just the ones you can actually talk to? Just have faith, bro.
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  702. And I have no respect for holier-than-thou bible thumpers.
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  703. Zeus is going to visit you and you will get on your knees and sacrifice a goat to the Ancient Greek pantheon.
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  704. By which you mean it's counterproductive in indoctrinating a child into your religion.
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  705. I mean, you can dedicate your life to a character from a book if you really want to. Doesn't mean you get to tell other people what to do with their lives.
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  706. Blah blah blah. The same misanthropic biblethumping drivel.
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  707. LGBTQ+ people don't need your help to be "turned straight", they're fine the way they are.
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  708.  @joshuasalazar4316  How do you know?
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  709. Dimitri, you've been fed a bunch of misinformation.
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  710. We should all be able to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't harm someone else. My freedom to swing my arm ends where your face begins, so to speak.
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  711. Why are you willing to accept other sexualities but not gender identities?
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  712. The scientific method was developed by humans.
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  713. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they
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  714. Hope you get over it soon.
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  715.  @myal2683  What is "not agreeing with gayness"?
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  716.  @myal2683  Then Christians should get their eyes checked.
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  717. Please elaborate.
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  718. Sex and gender are not the same thing. And even sex is not strictly binary.
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  719.  @kuonjibaskerville2411  Science supports more than two genders.
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  720. I have to correct you, nobody chooses their sexuality or gender identity.
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  721. Even if there is not one specific "gay gene" I have strong doubts about environment playing the biggest role. It would make no sense for cultures that are openly and violently hostile to homosexuality to still have gay people. And even if it was environmentally influence, that still would not make it a choice.
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  722. So are straight people and cis people. Your point?
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  723. People who aren't trans.
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  724. What promotion? If a straight character exists in a movie is it "straight promotion"?
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  725. Nature exists. Self-aware humans exist. Cool. Neato. Now demonstrate how these necessitate a god.
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  726. Does an alarm goes off in your house when an LGBTQ Christian comments on this specific video, Cerastes? What does your system look like?
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  727. At Cerastes. He has a nasty habit of commenting the same type of stuff to every LGBTQ Christian who comments here.
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  728. "Because you feel like it" implies that it's done on a whim. But trans people have a gender identity and a biological sex that don't match, which causes them a lot of distress. Transitioning helps them.
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  729. If it's confusing to you, you're the confused one. It's not complicated.
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  730. You should go educate yourself about non-cishet sexual orientations and gender identities so you don't have to be confused anymore.
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  731. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_gender_distinction Good place to start.
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  732. "Nothing can change my mind" isn't a very rational standpoint.
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  733. If "reality trumps fantasy every time", why are you completely unwilling to investigate reality?
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  734. Again, I sent you a link. Scientists don't necessarily agree with your viewpoint. But, go ahead and deny observable reality and the scientific method. Enjoy your own truth.
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  735. If you refuse to look at reality or ever consider changing your mind, you don't actually love truth.
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  736. Where's the cliff, though? Show that there's a cliff there instead of constantly quoting from an ancient book of mythology.
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  737. Ending a life isn't murder necessarily. Sperm cells are alive, but ejaculation generally isn't considered genocide. Murder is killing a person, and fetuses don't have personhood.
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  738. There's overwhelming evidence for the claim that Russia exists. There's none for the claim that a god exists. All you have is logical fallacies, ancient writings, and tenacity. A very aggravating combination.
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  739. Cerastes still thinks his little "gotcha" impresses anyone
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  740. Like. Fucking. Clockwork.
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  741. Or maybe Emily is a Christian, and God doesn't make people gay as a punishment for atheism. I mean, that's what the evidence seems to be pointing at here.
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  742. I'm here in this thread because you and Cerastes are badgering every single LGBT Christian and I want to interrupt the circlejerk.
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  743. Nobody is preventing you from having a traditional marriage. But gay people can get married too, without it being any of your goddamn business.
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  744. Why?
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  745. The definition of "marriage" has changed plenty over the centuries. The very idea of marrying out of love is a relatively new concept. Sex outside of marriage or between two people of same same sex is harmless as long as there's consent and everyone acts responsibly.
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  746. I mentioned acting responsibly, which includes proper birth control. And married couples are perfectly capable of having unwanted pregnancies as well.
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  747. The claim that a god was involved in any part of writing the bible has been unproven for thousands of years, and still has not met its burden of proof. You are stuck looking at this through the lens of your religious beliefs. Also, the biblical definition of marriage as described in the bible is horrible. Do you honestly think it's a good thing to force a rape survivor to marry her rapist, for example? Because that's in there: Deuteronomy 22:28-29:"If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives." Do you want to live in the kind of world where women's consent is meaningless?
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  748. If it occurs in nature, it's natural. Or would you say it's unnatural to have red hair? 98% of all people don't have red hair after all.
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  749. Holy shit, Cerastes, fuck off already.
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  750. Literally the first word in your comment was a third person pronoun
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  751.  @murphy9924  Nope, "I" is a first person pronoun. "He", "she", "they", those are all third person.
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  752. For the billionth time, Horseshit, it occurs in nature. Therefor it's natural.
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  753. "WOW GAY PEOPLE WON'T EVEN LET ME TELL THEM THEY'RE GOING TO HELL, THEY'RE TOTALLY FASCISTS!!!!!!"
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  754.  @kristelp1859  You're right, legal doesn't mean right. But in this case it is. And arbitrarily limiting who can marry because of tradition is what's wrong.
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  755. @Black Moth Marriage was created by humans. Stop making new accounts when you get banned.
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  756.  @kristelp1859  There's lots of married couples out there who are the same gender.
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  757.  @kristelp1859  No, the fact that it doesn't hurt anyone and makes gay people significantly more happy and equal by being able to participate marriage it makes it right.
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  758.  @kristelp1859  Maybe your irrational mythology tells you they do. But I don't really care about what you believe in, I'm more interested in demonstrable objective reality.
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  759. Avatar, I still can't tell if you just act as ignorant as possible on purpose, or if you're just really this pretentious and dense.
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  760. Being gay, bi, trans, etc literally hurts no one.
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  761. Preaching instead of talking gets us nowhere. In the end we still all have to live with each other.
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  762. Humans are animals.
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  763. You're the perfect example, Horseshit.
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  764. You're goddamn right I'm intolerant. Of intolerant bigots like yourself who spread malicious ideas about LGBTQ+ people.
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  765. Cerastes, are you a robot? Serious question.
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  766. Good ol' Cerastes, denouncing incest in one comment and saying two people populated the world in the next.
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  767. Being gay, bi, pan, ace, trans, etc isn't an imperfection. If anyone is "struggling" with any of those identities the fault lies at their environment.
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  768. If everyone was a man we wouldn't be able to reproduce either, that doesn't mean being a man is an imperfection.
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  769. Show me the cliff.
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  770. Sexuality is not a fetish.
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  771. I just wish he'd finally fuck off.
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  772. Why is that the only unforgivable one? Why is hurting a god's feelings worse than genocide?
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  773. The one restriction that matters is consent.
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  774. Apart from, of course, the age of consent.
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  775. @Borat Kazakh Don't ever talk to me.
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  776. @Borat Kazakh Don't ever talk to me. That includes typing on a keyboard, you snide little asshole.
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  777. God doesn't have to have gay sex if he doesn't want to.
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  778. I love it! Secular values are so much better than ones held over from the Bronze Age.
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  779. Entering a romantic relationship with someone of the same gender whom you're attracted to is a choice that hurts no one. To argue against it is nonsensical.
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  780. They exist either way.
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  781. Uhuh, that's why you always see Christians abstaining from eating shellfish or wearing clothes with mixed fibers. And avoiding everything a woman on her period has sat on that day to avoid becoming uNcLeAn
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  782. When you have to choose between being a good Christian and being a good person, maybe there's a problem.
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  783. Cerastes, I wish you'd stop trying to make people worse people.
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  784.  Charlene Amee  I'm hateful because I correct people's bizarre statements about how hearts work?
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  785.  Charlene Amee  How do you know?
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  786. "Sin" is a meaningless concept for anyone who doesn't buy into the idea of a personal god. And no, we don't know a creator exists. "Nothing cannot create anything" is not a compelling argument because not only can you not demonstrate that this is the case, but even if it is the case, a deity is not the default answer. You don't get to claim something is the truth unless you have some good evidence.
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  787. Headless, they would if there was no fire.
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  788. Christianity doesn't hold a monopoly on the concept of marriage. It's a legal construct.
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  789. Marriage is a human construct. If you want your imaginary friend to be the topic of conversation, he can leave a comment.
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  790. You know, the whole "yOu nOT beliEVinG In thIs aNciENT BOOK oF MythoLogy aCTuALLy PRovES THat EVeRytHINg IN it is TRUe" thing doesn't get more compelling the more you repeat it. It's still just a bad argument.
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  791. You do, though. You've built your entire life, your identity around myths. Usually I have a live and let live attitude when it comes to religion, but you're obnoxious enough to make me completely fine with telling you that you are completely delusional.
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  792. "These people are delusional. The Big Evil Man made them like that by putting Confusion Ghosts in them." Amazing. No self-awareness whatsoever.
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  793. What an enlightened centrist you are
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  794. Same-sex relationships aren't the same as cheating though. You still haven't actually demonstrated the harm beyond just saying "BOOK SAYS IT BAD"
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  795. Still nowhere near as harmful as rape. And morality is a different matter from legality. Adultery isn't necessarily good or bad. Is it bad if a woman in an abusive arranged marriage has sex with someone she's fallen in love with?
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  796. Harm isn't necessarily physical. It can be emotional, psychological, fiscal, etc.
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  797.  Oucast American  Uhuh
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  798. Being gay isn't hereditary. But that doesn't mean it's a choice of any kind. Most likely it seems to be the result of certain genetic and hormonal factors in the brain development of a fetus.
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  799. @Alpha Every religious person thinks their religion is special. But it isn't.
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  800. @Alpha Popularity is not indicative of reliability.
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  801. Avatar, take it from me. We're not interested in your "warnings". Find something more productive to do with your time, please.
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  802. If the police show up to arrest you one day, and put you on death row because you stole a cookie from the cookie jar when you were 6, is that fair?
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  803.  @saltyzu8412  His "pronouns are for pussies!" comment suggests otherwise 😂
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  804. Is that really the hill you want to die on? Denying people the simple polite courtesy of a preferred pronoun?
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  805. @Creative Of course you were behind those accounts too. Are you just some incredibly dedicated troll? Is that what this is?
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  806. @Creative Why did you pretend to be a homophobic black woman here for months?
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  807.  baby shark  Are they really? I just found it odd that they used the same missepelled homophobic insult.
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  808.  @broncobama8091  Every once in a while, the "i'M jUsT tElLiNg PeOpLe AbOuT tHe BiBlE" mask slips off and reveals the raging homophobe underneath. Pathetic.
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  809. Disagreeing with what? Why can no one clearly tell me what exactly it is that they "disagree" with?
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  810.  @murdoch1717  I mean, no one's stopping you from holding shitty homophobic beliefs. People simply don't have to like or accept them, and you can be expected to be criticized if you express them. Which I'm fine with.
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  811. There's probably going to be Christians telling you you're wrong, but I think your version of it is vastly morally superior to a literalist interpretation.
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  812. Transphobes have literally one joke and it's not even a good one
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  813. You don't need evidence for something to be true. But people who value truth need evidence before they believe something.
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  814. People get angry because you pretend your religious beliefs are facts. And because you apparently have this insatiable urge to call every LGBTQ+ Christian's identity into question.
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  815. I'd be just as annoyed if there was some guy going around the comment section going "UHH ACTUALLY being gay isn't real, the tooth fairy told me"
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  816. People would laugh at that because belief in the tooth fairy is seen as childish, whereas belief in a god has some percieved legitimacy to it due to its popularity. Neither have been scientifically demonstrated to exist.
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  817. Take a hike, Dave.
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  818.  Tan Tan  So you're just gonna hurl this pro-abstinence guilt trip at every LGBTQ+ Christian who posts here huh?
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  819. Cerastes, stop parroting the same fucking thing to literally every LGBT Christian in the comments. You are not the Christianity police.
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  820. You're delusional. I pity you, truly.
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  821. With all of the interactions we've had, Horseman, what could possibly possess you to think I want to hear more out of your favorite bronze age fantasy novel?
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  822. Ok, show that this god actually exists and I'll consider focusing. Until then, it influences my life as much as bigfoot does.
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  823. What makes you think a "who" is responsible for the human reproductive system in the first place? Seems like a big assumption.
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  824. Not believing in sin isn't the same as not believing in harmful or morally wrong actions. Sin to me seems to be just a list of a deity's dislikes. Since I'm not convinced any deities exist, sin is a meaningless concept to me.
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  825. When you say you "don't agree with LGBTQ+", what do you mean? Their decision to form relationships? To transition? Do you want them to repress who they are?
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  826. You "don't agree with the lifestyle"? What does that mean?
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  827. What is immoral about 2 people racing down a highway devoid of other people?
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  828. And once again, facts don't care about your feelings. You can keep whining about "EUGH DISCUSING PERVZ 😭" but it's absolutely meanginless.
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  829. Anything against the law is immoral? Would it have been immoral to free a man's slaves in the 1700s?
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  830. Stop fucking sealioning every single LGBT Christian you insufferable douche
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  831. There's literally nothing immoral about having a relationship with someone of the same gender as you.
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  832. Sin is a meaningless concept for anyone who doesn't buy into theism, and a piss-poor basis for a moral system. Rigid laws, with no exceptions, and often no real reason behind them.
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  833. You realize sex and gender aren't the same thing?
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  834.  @itsMKiAM  It doesn't matter if you're not outwardly hostile to gay people, believing that being gay or "acting on" being gay is bad is homophobic.
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  835.  @itsMKiAM  Nor is it wrong to be in a relationship with or have sex with someone of the same gender.
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  836. What does "not supporting LGBTQ" mean?
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  837. Prove that god thinks or says anything.
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  838. Blind obedience to an invisible being is a terrible way to live.
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  839. Assuming the bible is actually true.
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  840. Correction, you believe it's true. Knowledge is demonstrable.
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  841. That makes no sense whatsoever. And I didn't say truth is subjective or a belief. Just that you can't claim to know what's true about the bible's undemonstrable supernatural claims. Because you don't know. You only strongly believe you do.
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  842. No, without a teacher, 2 + 2 is still 4. Some answers are still correct and some are still false, even if no one is grading the test.
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  843. It's true because we can verify that it's true consistently. Not because of any unfounded belief in an undetectable brainless mind.
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  844. The law is a social construct. I follow it because not following it has consequences, because my fellow human beings will react accordingly. And air is demonstrable. We can look at the molecules and put it in a bottle. Gods are more like laws than they are like air.
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  845. That "digging deep" is called science. Something that god seems to be immune to.
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  846. Extremism is relative.
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  847. What a completely vapid comment
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  848. A god has never been demonstrated to exist.
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  849. The singular "they" has been in use in the English language for centuries.
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  850. I feel like you may be confusing sex and gender.
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  851. No, I don't think it's increasing. I can see how one might think so, but that can be attributed to the fact that they've been getting more visible and more represented culturally as they've been gaining acceptance.
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  852. Occuring in nature is literally what "natural" means. A definition isn't a username, you can't just change it on a whim if you don't like it.
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  853. It's still so staggering to me that for literally months you've stalked this video's comments, making really poor arguments with vast amounts of unearned confidence.
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  854. It doesn't feel right to leave it when there's some jerk constantly harassing LGBTQ+ Christians, you know?
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  855. Nobody asked you to spend your free time lecturing people because they don't follow your specific brand of Christianity.
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  856. Why do you consider being gay "making a mistake"?
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  857. Sure someone could be a Christian pornstar. Hell, that's probably a pretty good untapped market.
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  858. You're right, if anything, homophobes should be openly ridiculed.
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  859. Gay Christian: exists Cerastes: CTRL V
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  860. You sure are an annoying little zealot, Avatar.
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  861. You base your life on an ancient book based on hallucinations and dreams?
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  862. @Debonte Pitts You don't understand anything. You've made that abundantly clear.
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  863. @Alpha Then why are you such an asshole?
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  864. We punish people who commit harmful acts. Homosexuality is not harmful. Pretty simple. Photosynthesis gives me oxygen. Prove that a god is involved in the process of creating oxygen.
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  865. Headless, it's not too late. It's too early. Because there's no actual evidence for any of this yet, if there ever will be.
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  866. "Sin" is a list of a deity's personal dislikes. Entirely removed from the concept of morality.
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  867. It's not self-centered to want your life to be in your own hands.
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  868. Is it self-centered for a slave to refuse to submit to the person who bought them?
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  869. A slave has the choice to rebel, it's just that that choice tends to be met with severe punishment. And from what I hear from Christians, refusal to submit to their god leads to eternal punishment. So I fail to see the difference.
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  870. "The world" is sadly not as LGBTQ+ positive as you seem to think it is. Plenty of people still hold terribly ignorant and bigoted positions. Mostly religious people. Hence the dislike of what you call "genuine Christians".
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  871. Why are people against homosexuality? Ignorance, mostly. Largely based on ancient superstitions. It's funny how you keep reducing homosexuality to anal sex. Almost like you're kind of preoccupied by it. You do realize lesbians exist? And that plenty of straight couples are into butt stuff?
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  872.  Tan Tan  If a gay relationship "hurts their family" that's harm caused by irrational homophobia, not by the existence of the gay relationship. That's like saying the existence of black people hurts racists.
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  873. Basic human manners are too complex and confusing for Avatar. He'd rather just tell everyone else how to live.
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  874. You have a hard time staying away from the slurs, huh?
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  875. You're the worst type of Christian, Avatar. All zeal, no empathy. I really wish you'd shut your mouth already.
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  876. What "lifestyle" is that?
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  877. So basically, you don't agree with gay people who don't force themselves to live a life of celibacy?
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  878. "The action"? Which action is that? Marrying someone of the same gender? Kissing someone of the same gender? Buying furniture at Ikea with someone of the same gender?
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  879. Ok bye
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  880. So don't look, if you're so sensitive to seeing people in love.
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  881. It absolutely is applicable. You just have an irrational reaction to what you don't understand.
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  882. AMD, then you have paradoxical views.
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  883. So edgy
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  884. The DSM is literally written by the main professional organization of psychiatrists in the USA you complete fucking clown. But nah, probably just "fake news" because it disagrees with you.
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  885. There's plenty of straight people who base their whole life around their heterosexuality.
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  886. Fingers aren't for typing YouTube comments. Yet here we all are.
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  887. "ACKSHULLY"
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  888. Yikes
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  889. No, that yikes was definitely directed at you.
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  890. Because you complain about being stereotyped as a Christian, then immediately explain how you're constantly praying for your LGBTQ+ family members to change who they are.
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  891. You are an insane person.
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  892. There sure seems to be a lot of overlap though.
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  893. Don't let some guy peer pressure you into being homophobic.
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  894. Are you okay, you're coughing a lot
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  895. Having sex with a sexy stranger is okay.
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  896. Unfortunately you are a bit incorrect. Adam and Eve are fictional characters. Humanity did not come from two humans, and no one is made from a rib.
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  897. Your little quote seems to be specifically talking about men, though.
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  898. Ah heck I can't read Oh well, the bible says all sorts of things. You can make anything look bad with an out-of-context bible quote, from shellfish to figs.
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  899. Do you just have like a folder of these pre-written messages for people who you think aren't doing your religion correctly?
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  900. Sure, most people are cis. But that doesn't invalidate the existence of trans, intersex, and nonbinary people.
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  901. It's sad that Christianity is so misanthropic at its core.
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  902. I don't think anyone means "morally perfect" when they say someone is "good". If someone dedicated their life to helping those in need, but doesn't thank the bus driver, that doesn't make him suddenly not a good person. If you meant "perfect" you should've just said perfect.
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  903. Vyce, how do you know it's the truth?
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  904. Please link me a recent scientific study that says that.
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  905. Well, you made a claim. I asked you to fulfill the burden of proof for that claim.
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  906. I don't believe I said any such thing. Now, can you show a scientific study that backs up your assertion?
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  907. Are you going to keep trying to avoid your burden of proof? When you said "any questions???", I assumed there would actually be answers.
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  908. Chromosomes determine sex, not gender. And even then, sex isn't exclusively binary. Intersex people exist.
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  909. I just asked God again, he says to believe me over the bible.
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  910. People repressing their sexuality for the sake of religion is terrible, and if you encourage people to do that, you're a bad person.
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  911. Did god give trans people gender dysphoria for a reason then? Seems awfully cruel.
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  912. The singular they has been used in the English language for centuries. The oldest example we've found is from 1382.
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  913.  @peakyray08  What do you mean by "not supporting it" exactly? Do you think there's something morally wrong with two men or two women being in a relationship?
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  914.  @peakyray08  Then I'm sorry to tell you that your religion is homophobic.
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  915. Ignore Avatar. Being LGBT isn't something you need to "repent" from, it's just part of who you are and there's nothing wrong with it.
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  916. Gay people can still make babies, they're just less likely to do so. And not everyone is gay so it's not even relevant. It's like saying being a man is bad because if everyone was a man we couldn't have babies.
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  917. Interesting, looks like our resident True Christian™ just got Totally Not Banned™ again.
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  918. When your holy book tells you to be a homophobe, you should reject the holy book.
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  919. Demonstrate that what you call "truth" is actually true, or don't call it truth.
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  920. But as long as Hunter doesn't demonstrate that what he's saying is actually the truth, he doesn't get to call it that.
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  921. How do you know god said any of that?
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  922. How do you know the bible is his word?
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  923. Christians exist on the same planet as me. This is trivially easy to demonstrate. But no one has ever demonstrated that a god exists. So do that first, and then we can talk about repenting and all that.
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  924. Anyone can claim something exists in "another dimension". Doesn't mean it's true. Demonstrate it or it's all empty words.
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  925. So you'll tell people to believe what you do, but you don't feel like backing up anything you're saying. Pretty typical.
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  926.  @peace2033  Keep me out of whatever weird circlejerk you and those other accounts are having, please.
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  927.  @egodumpster  See, when you say "we're all sinners" you're basically saying that nobody's perfect, and that being gay is an imperfection, or a flaw. It's not. And you thinking it is, is homophobic.
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  928. Avatar, you are the very definition of homophobia.
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  929. I'll start giving a damn about Allah's opinions when Allah is demonstrated to actually exist.
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  930. I'm saying I'm not convinced he does.
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  931. God posts Youtube comments, huh? What's his account?
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  932. How do you know you were being influenced by a god? I feel like there's a simpler explanation.
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  933. He whined.
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  934. Counter argument: If I hate someone, but don't actually murder them, they don't die. Therefor, hating someone, while not great, is not as bad as murder. Boom, I just made a moral system better than the biblical one!
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  935. No, you're right. It's much more sensible that the first human was magically spoken into existence, and his sexual partner was made from a piece of his skeleton. Who cares about science?
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  936. Evolution is a scientific theory, meaning it is a hypothesis that has both met its burden of proof, and withstood the process of peer review. Ironic that you say I need to do research when you don't even know what a scientific theory is.
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  937. Evolution explains the diversity of life. It's a different thing from abiogenesis. You really ought to talk to a biologist sometime.
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  938.  Tan Tan  Struggling LGBTQ+ people don't need Jesus, they just need to stop listening to people who tell them it's something to be struggled with. I feel truly sorry for you.
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  939. Good. Watered down Christianity generally means less stoning and more overall human happiness.
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  940. Allegedly 😉
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  941. Cerastes, the science disagrees with you. Read the DSM-5.
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  942. When? 2021? Sooner? Later? Literally anything more falsifiable than "soon"?
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  943. Fuck off, John
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  944. What is the point of coming back to comment the same nonsense over and over? Is there some joke I'm not getting?
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  945. Headless, why are you so tirelessly dedicated to being an asshole?
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  946.  @kee-kraze  People don't choose to be trans either.
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  947.  @kee-kraze  Yeah, transitioning is a choice, I just said that. But they're already trans. Just like you're already gay even if you've never kissed someone of the same gender, you're already trans even if you haven't transitioned yet.
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  948. Why?
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  949. How is that different from declining to date a non-gay person you're not interested in?
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  950. Headless is offended as a lunatic.
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  951. Why do you keep assuming I'm gay? Wishful thinking? 😘
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  952. Where have I said anything like that?
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  953. Still waiting.
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  954. For you to produce the comment where I claimed to be a "self-admitted homosexual".
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  955. Everyone should care more about being nice than following scripture.
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  956. It's your choice to believe in the Christian supernatural claims without sufficient evidence. But that doesn't mean you get to pretend it's true for everyone.
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  957. They can, though. A gay person's reproductive system is the same as yours.
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  958. No. I said their reproductive system is the same as a straight person's. They can reproduce just fine through things like surrogate mothers and sperm donors.
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  959. Get ready for a bunch of extremists telling you why you're not a "tRuE cHrIsTiAn™"
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  960. You do hold fanatical religious views. You've shown that time and time again now.
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  961. It's bad to arbitrarily ask people to deny part of who they are when it's not hurting anyone.
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  962. Watch as they eternally get tortured in the system that he himself set up.
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  963. Like I said, loving someone of the same gender is something that hurts no one. If this god has arbitrarily set it up that people who do it are tortured eternally, said god is irrefutably evil. If this god is unable to set it up any other way, I'd hardly call them a god.
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  964. "I have no need for two user accounts." Isn't this like your fifth by now?
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  965. @Çerastes You made a new account. Duh. This isn't even your first one named Cerastes, dummy.
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  966. What is there to "not agree with" though? Because being LGBT is definitely not a choice.
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  967. But what is it that's wrong exactly?
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  968. Stop spamming the same shit to every LGBTQ+ Christian in the comments, you obnoxious moron.
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  969. Demonstrate that any of that is actually true, or we have literally zero reason to care.
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  970. How do you know a god is saying anything?
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  971. How do you know your bible is a reliable source of information?
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  972. I'm asking you how you know it is.
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  973. Believing it doesn't make is true either.
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  974. One's sexuality is not a "lifestyle choice".
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  975. They're there for a discussion, not to preach.
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  976. DNA is literally self-replicating. Nothing about the natural world points to a god, let alone your specific one. See, this is where preaching gets you. I can't take you seriously at all now.
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  977. Oh boy, another moron joins the "durr homosexuality bad" squad.
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  978. No response, Avatar? Don't you remember what your favorite book says about lying?
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  979. Threats of hell aren't very effective non nonbelievers.
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  980. Why?
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  981. It's cool guys! It's fine if you're gay, as long as you arbitrarily live a life of celibacy because our book says so. Have fun dying alone because of bronze age ignorance!
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  982. Gay people aren't "shoving their gayness down your throat" any more than straight people shove their straightness down throats.
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  983. How many Christian presidents have there been in the US? And how many openly gay ones?
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  984. Special pleading.
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  985. Obviously he means being sus
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  986. Don't you know? Cerastes is literally the only true Christian in the world. And he lets us know it!
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  987. Unlike Christians, I don't believe in Satan.
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  988. I'm sorry that you feel the need to repress your sexuality.
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  989. How messed up is it though that everyone is born guilty of something?
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  990. That's because what you think is the right thing, simply isn't.
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  991. They both do like to harass LGBTQ Christians a whole lot.
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  992. I can't think of any other religion in the United States that's a bigger threat to LGBTQ+ rights.
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  993. Citation needed
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  994. Go take a fucking hike, Cerastes.
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  995. He just keeps coming back with little scripts, and deflects everything with "muh bible". So obnoxious.
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  996. Abe, no offense, but do you expect messages like these to actually convince any unbelievers?
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  997. You don't have to justify yourself to Alpha or whatever name he uses now, he keeps bothering people with this crap.
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  998. Cerastes the narcissist, coming through again to advertise his one correct and true interpretation of the bible, and give himself a good ol' thumbs up on a job well done.
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  999. Adam and Eve are fictional.
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  1000. "Just look around at all of the things that have been created." You're calling them "things that have been created" because you believe they have a creator, and then use that designation to justify belief in a creator. That's blatantly circular. Par for the course though for a zealot like yourself.
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  1001. Delusional comment.
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  1002. You can't say you want to respect and help trans people and then refuse to use their preferred pronouns.
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  1003.  @gabrielviana5595  Why though? It's so incredibly easy to respect someone's pronouns, and it makes a world of difference.
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  1004.  Tan Tan  Why do you insist on using those ".." ellipses as your sole method of punctuation? Not only is it annoying to just use ellipses, you're not even using them right, they're supposed to have three dots.
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  1005. Stop making the entire comment section about you, it's extremely obnoxious
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  1006.  @chaoticboi2256  I don't understand the appeal of just being overtly vulgar directly to other users like this. Stop.
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  1007.  @babymouse8006  There's some extremely shitty people but I don't see how making a bunch of sockpuppet accounts mocking people does anything but add toxicity.
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  1008. Repressing the urge to punch someone is good, because no one will get punched. That's completely different from arbitrarily repressing one's sexuality because of some asinine religious belief. Punching people harms them, being in a same-sex relationship harms no one.
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  1009. Cerastes, why are you avoiding your burden of proof still? Could it be that you don't like it when someone sealions you for a change?
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  1010. Well you can't dismiss Zeus. He exists outside of people's minds. He's existed long before any religion existed.
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  1011. You're not able to either, Headless.
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  1012. Cerastes, are you trying to be insufferable on purpose? Stop trying to be the Christianity police, and accept that not everyone is the exact same kind of Christian that you are. And stop liking your own comments, you narcissistic prick.
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  1013. So you love gay people but you arbitrarily want to deny them the ability to get married?
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  1014. Lmao, Horseshit is still throwing the ol' argument ad populum fallacy around, huh?
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  1015. "Targeting children"? Can you be more specific?
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  1016. So, saying it's fine to be gay or trans. There's literally nothing wrong with that.
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  1017. Gay Christians exist. Get the fuck over it.
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  1018. No such thing as a "recovering gay" person. Join us in reality or keep your mouth shut.
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  1019. Cerastes, you've just given me the same link you've given before to a conservative propaganda video. It's by no means a scientific source. Please try again.
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  1020. I don't believe your god exists. Now, why should I be tortured forever for saying that?
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  1021. Trans people "get to you"? What do you mean?
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  1022. What exactly is "not right" about two women or two men being in love? Do you look at two wives and think they're doing something morally wrong?
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  1023. What evidence?
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  1024. The standard that it should be demonstrable? Or that it should actually be evidence for the claim?
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  1025. it's km/s ya dink
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  1026. I don't condone human sacrifice.
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  1027. I see. I disagree with your views on sexuality and sexual identity but I'm glad you at least feel like you can live and let live, and respect LGBTQ+ people.
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