Comments by "Maksie0" (@Maksie0) on "Conservative Teens vs Liberal Parents | Middle Ground" video.

  1. I mean, it's a correct response when something doesn't happen.
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  2.  @brent.johnson23  "in Lia's peak pretransition season (2019), she was ranked 32nd in the NCAA in the 1650-yard freestyle with a time of 14:54, 65th in the 500-yard freestyle with a 4:18, and 18th in the 1000-yard freestyle with an 8:55. These ranking are specific to college swimmers, but her "true" national ranking wouldn't be far off due to the minimal number of professional swimmers. Her times slowed down significantly after transitioning, swimming a 4:33 in the 500-yard freestyle at the women's NCAA championship. Going from a 4:18 to a 4:33 is a significant time gain for the 500. This time is the source of the ranking misinformation. A 4:33.24 in the 500-yard freestyle is ranked 457th for D1 men in the 2021-2022 season (630th for all of men's college swimming this year)."
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  3.  @balkanfilms6740  "Sin" is meaningless outside of religion. Religion invents "problems" to "solve". The very fact that these religious people oppose LGBTQ+ rights so much just shows how "sin" and "immorality" aren't the same thing at all.
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  4.  @BeastGotClipped  What's illogical?
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  5. For those who believe in it, there's no gun bigger than God's gun I guess.
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  6. I think she should change
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  7. Not everyone can afford to just politely disagree. Conservative ideas and policies cause real harm to real people.
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  8.  @tmcslayer4559  She's correct.
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  9.  @tmcslayer4559  Great non-answer
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  10. Why would someone who wants an abortion wait until the third trimester? Why would a person transition to sexually assault someone when they could just walk in?
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  11.  @davelucas7997  Lol, absolutely not.
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  12. Where?
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  13.  @janellecappel5650  If you can't tell me how they're the same thing in your next response, I'm going to assume that you can't actually defend your accusation, and then laugh at you.
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  14. How so?
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  15. "Poopy libracketeers"? Are you five?
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  16.  @moodafan123  Such an easy question and you still got it wrong.
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  17. They made a liberal teens versus conservative adults video before this one and this is the flipped version of that.
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  18. Someone being Ben Shapiro 2.0 is not a compliment lmao
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  19. I hope you're not a parent.
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  20. That's disturbing
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  21. But not this time.
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  22. Her rigid adherence to rules from an ancient book is why she made the least amount of sense.
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  23. Trans women are using women's spaces, sure. What isn't happening is them "walking into those spaces to show off their genitalia."
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  24. I think you value civility too much.
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  25. And what are you basing that on?
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  26. Just because her family is comfortably well off doesn't mean capitalism is working on the larger scale. Inequality keeps growing and climate change is still going largely unadressed. We can't keep going this way.
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  27.  @markofabecic6824  Conservatism tends to fight for tradition and oppose change and social progress. I think change and social progress are incredibly important if we want to improve everyone's lives, let people raise a happy family, and benefit from scientific advancements.
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  28. Conservative positions are extremely feelings-based.
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  29. Why?
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  30. She did.
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  31. No, it isn't. Making that comparison shows me that you don't have any idea what transitioning means.
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  32.  @janellecappel5650  Conversion therapy is taking someone who's gay, bi, trans, etc and abusing them into the closet. Transitioning is a person who's trans voluntarily changing their name, the way they dress, and the way they generally present themselves. And oftentimes they also transition medically through hormone therapy or surgery. Which are all completely voluntary of course, done if the trans person themselves want them. Now you tell me how those are the same.
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  33. Your mom only has an embarassment.
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  34. Silence, statue pfp
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  35. That was in reference to late term abortions specifically I believe.
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  36. She was literally just spouting conservative Christian talking points the whole time
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  37. That's not how that works.
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  38. That's an oxymoron.
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  39. She talked about her husband, and was wearing a wedding ring. If this is how your bets usually go, stay away from casinos.
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  40. Driving is a choice. Getting in an accident is an effect of that choice. Do you think people who get into car accidents shouldn't receive medical treatment?
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  41. I hope you never have a trans kids, for their sake
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  42. You people really ought to pay more attention when listening. She was saying that people don't have very late term abortions unless for medical reasons. People who simply don't want to be pregnant have no reason to wait 8 months to get one, do they?
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  43. You're an insane person
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  44. I'd say the USA is not democratic or free.
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  45. I don't respect that opinion.
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  46.  @demons__1874  Why is it immature to not want to associate with people who hold differing political views? Having different political views isn't like preferring a different flavor of ice cream. There are conservatives who think LGBTQ+ people are immoral and should legally not be allowed to be themselves. How am I meant to be friends with someone who thinks that?
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  47. Still crying and screaming about public bathrooms?
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  48. "I started making a lot of money and then I realized I wanted to keep hoarding as much of it as possible for myself, no matter the cost"
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  49. Adding "PERIODT! THE END!" doesn't make it true. Still the pregnant person's body.
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  50.  @ECNLGK_  Take your pills, grandpa.
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  51.  @markofabecic6824  That's actually incorrect. The existence and validity of trans people is supported by the major scientific and medical organizations. Transphobic conservatives are going against science. The conservative stance on transitioning makes lives worse, breaks apart families, and is unscientific.
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  52. What "better views?"
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  53. Cindy is the best person here.
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  54. Love between people of the same gender harms no one.
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  55. Conservatism is the opposite of wisdom.
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  56.  @leetsui510  And you think accepting your child is "rolling over"?
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  57. If the future is conservative, we are all fucked.
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  58. You say that like it's a bad thing.
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  59. @Topsealguy  "Woke is a political slang adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) originally meaning alertness to racial prejudice and discrimination. Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness of social inequalities such as racial injustice, sexism, and denial of LGBT rights." Now why is that a bad thing?
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  60.  @Grant.V  Maybe you'd know some examples if you were a little more woke. Are you unaware of the overturning of Roe v Wade, the many examples of state legislature attacking the rights of trans people to participate in sports or be in public spaces, and the horrific injustices historically inflicted on African Americans, causing a huge amount of inequality in generational wealth for which there's never been reparations?
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  61. In some cases, sure. But countries with more gun control have vastly lower levels of gun violence.
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  62. If your child is trans and doesn't feel safe telling you, you've failed as a parent.
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  63. @Aaron Because conservatism is a dogshit ideology that only benefits the wealthy and the irrational.
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  64.  @janellecappel5650  Do try to explain how.
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  65.  @eternes4080  I don't see how that invalidates her point that the US and the idea of the "American Dream" are built on genocide and exploitation.
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  66.  @jamescooke7243  They already did. It came out before this one.
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  67. I don't think Cindy would deny that she has privilege.
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  68. Gender dysphoria is recognized by the DSM-5 as a mental disorder. The recommended treatment for it is transitioning.
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  69. But they can get an abortion.
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  70. You're just against the concept of listening to your kids entirely? If your child said he fell and broke his arm, you'd say "no you didn't"?
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  71. So because he's a child he can't be trans? How does that work?
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  72. I get that it's the point of the video, but I find conservatism abhorrent and harmful and I don't see finding a middle ground with it as something helpful.
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  73.  @famousprophets_stars  Hating love between consenting partners of the same gender is an irrational, harmful, and reprehensible position.
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  74. None of the above
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  75. Seems like a great answer to give when something's not happening
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  76. How?
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  77. How was he wrong?
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  78.  @logut80  There's bolt action rifles.
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  79. She said she has three boys.
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  80.  @jackandcoke39  Trans boys are boys, Nick. Gender and sex aren't the same thing, and her children's chromosomes aren't really your concern.
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  81.  @oocanadat1  No, it's what we call people who have been indoctrinated into a set of religious beliefs.
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  82. It has more to do with wealth. Wealthier people tend to be more conservative because they want to keep their wealth, that's pretty much all there's to it.
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  83. Cindy is completely correct.
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  84. What's stopping many women from working those jobs is rampant, violent sexism at many of those work sites. Look into what goes on on oil rigs sometime, it is not pretty.
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  85. I hope she snaps out of the brainwashing at some point and realizes she can do whatever she wants with her life.
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  86. Go on then, what is it they're missing?
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  87.  @mortforcapitalism  You can be more specific than that, surely.
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  88. If your kid is trans, they're trans. That has nothing to do with how you raise them. But if your trans kid doesn't have your support and love as a parent, then you've failed as a parent.
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  89. I unsarcastically think she'd be very fun at parties, yes
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  90. People are poor because of capitalism.
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  91.  @StayWoke.Fellas  Is capitalism everywhere? No, but it's pretty damn close. And the US has plenty of hard working poor people. Their existence is required for capitalism to function.
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  92. ​ @StayWoke.Fellas  Capitalism rewards having money. Seriously, it's why the rift between rich and poor is always growing. When you're rich, you can afford an education. You can own a business and have other people work hard to earn you a profit. You can be a landlord and have poor people pay you most of what they earn every month just to live in something you own. Really, capitalism isn't about working, it's about owning. Socialism is not about "getting free money", it's about changing who owns the means of production from the wealthy few, to everyone.
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  93. What does it mean to "disagree with the concept of LGBT"?
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  94.  @victorokah9405  Fetuses can be nonviable late in the pregnancy due to health issues. But no one who doesn't want to be pregnant is going to wait for eight months to get an abortion.
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  95. Prove it.
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  96.  @Soiehziz  I'm part of the problem because I asked what she was wrong about?
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  97. Source?
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  98. Accepting your child is not a failure, it's what any parent is supposed to do. I sincerely hope you never have kids.
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  99. Won't somebody think of the zygotes??? 😢
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  100. Source?
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  101. People aren't going to pretend to be trans, let alone transition, to get into a public bathroom. It's not like they're policed anyway. You can literally just go in.
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  102. There is another episode that's the other way around. That one came out first.
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  103. And yet other countries don't have the USA's gun violence problem.
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  104. You don't know anything about Cindy's children beyond what she talked about
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  105. Once they decided to be conservatives, they didn't stand a chance
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  106. How so?
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  107. They do.
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  108. Assaulting people for using the restroom is insane behavior
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  109. Embarassing.
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  110. Eden's views are based on religion, not reality. Cindy's views are based on reality and it's wonderful to see someone confidently defending progressive ideas. Does that leave you annoyed and uncomfortable? Well, facts don't care about your feelings.
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  111. I think there is absolutely something wrong with people who "don't agree with" the existence of LGBTQ+ people.
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  112.  @stantxtstraykidsandseventeen "The ideologies"? There's no "ideologies".
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  113. Not all of them. There's lever action rifles for example.
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  114. For medical reasons, yes. People generally don't wait for 8 months to terminate a pregnancy simply because they don't want to be pregnant.
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  115. Thoroughly indoctrinated
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  116. The consequence can be getting an abortion.
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  117. No
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  118.  @markofabecic6824  Why would any of that make you conservative?
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  119. Why?
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  120. She said no one is doing that unless it's medically necessary. And indeed, why would someone who wasn't planning on carrying their pregnancy to term wait eight months before getting an abortion?
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  121. That's probably why they're conservatives
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  122.  @tanyathorvilson  They already did, it came out before this one.
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  123. The religious fundamentalist? Really? There's nothing sane about that.
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  124. Nah, she needs to speak more. I hope they bring her back in a future video.
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  125. I am begging you to learn what fascism means.
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  126.  @stitchey8779  Fascism doesn't mean an unwillingness to debate a certain topic. It's a specific political ideology.
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  127. Still so wild to me that people can look at the human trainwreck that is Jordan Peterson as some kind of wise guru.
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  128. I don't think Matt Walsh should be in the same room as a teenage girl.
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  129. That's not how being trans works.
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  130. Why do you think a system where the means of production are communally owned cannot work?
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  131. Is there, though?
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  132. I don't think those beliefs warrant respect.
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  133. Jubilee should stay far away from that pathetic grifter
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  134. No, her son told her that and she listened.
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  135. Based Cindy
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  136. There's nothing conservatives like more than an indoctrinated child.
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  137. There's no one checking genitals at public bathroom doors. Someone with bad intentions doesn't have to claim to identify as anything. They can just walk in. By the way, trans people using the bathroom of their gender isn't a new thing. Before a bunch of these states banned it, it happened all the time. With, surprise surprise, no skyrocketing rape epidemic.
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  138. b(r)a(inwa)s(h)ed
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  139. Necessary? How'd people hunt before the AR-15 then?
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  140. Being rude to conservatives is necessary
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  141. Lmao
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  142. Fetuses aren't people yet.
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  143. She was literally just regurgitating conservative religious talking points
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  144. That already existed before this one.
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  145. Ironic comment.
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  146. How unfortunate.
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  147.  @SMTS1159  You *should*, but people like you show that not everyone does.
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  148. To capitalists, sure. The same way capitalism is dangerous to the working class.
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  149.  @seybren  Like what?
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  150. How so?
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  151.  @Jibsss  Great non-answer.
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  152. Late term abortions specifically.
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  153. Conservative ideas are just inherently worse, that's all there's to it.
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  154. Less than a year into what?
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  155. Don't have kids then.
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  156. The "case" of a trans woman using a women's locker room to change?
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  157. @@Hfhjspwp By changing clothes, you mean? Which is the purpose of a locker room? If she was actively flashing genitalia at others, that's already a crime regardless of what genitals those are.
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  158. @@Hfhjspwp There were women who were terrified and outraged about having to share their spaces with black women back in the day.
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  159. @@Hfhjspwp The rights of the minority take precedence over the comfort of the majority.
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  160. @@Hfhjspwp I'm not trying to justify men using women's spaces. Because trans women are women who are trans.
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  161. @@Hfhjspwp Incorrect. Trans women are women.
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  162. ​@@Hfhjspwp Trans here is used as an adjective. There's no distinction, a trans woman is just a woman who is trans. And a trans woman is a woman because they identify as such, because that's ultimately how gender works. Because there's no set of biological sex traits that one can choose to try and define gender that doesn't inevitably exclude people whom you would otherwise absolutely consider to be be said gender, whether it be chromosomal makeup, genitalia, secondary sex characteristics, etc.
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  163.  @xX_ac1d_Xx  It's saddening that she loves and accepts them?
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  164. Extremely high
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  165. "I'm liberal but I hold all the same reactionary views as these conservatives"
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  166.  @IronsharkGaming4747  Feeling's mutual.
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  167. I mean yeah I wouldn't want to date a tory either
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  168. How do you explain the gun violence being so much lower in countries that do have strict gun control?
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  169. Why would you want to be a conservative teen?
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  170.  @janellecappel5650  🫵😂
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  171. Why call her by her name in a previous comment, only to then refer to her as "blue shirt woman"?
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  172. Capitalism is currently not working.
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  173. No, that's not how being trans works.
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  174. Because it's a reverse of the video they did with liberal teens and conservative parents?
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  175. "Socialism requires capitalism" is a sentence that makes absolutely no sense.
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  176.  @invalidaccount2315  No, I think you're just politically illiterate.
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  177. Why do you need one? People hunted just fine before semi-automatics existed, didn't they?
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  178.  @MuffinDaMoose  Skill issue
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  179. Her?
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  180. The overwhelming majority is done in the first trimester. At 8 months it's way more difficult and way more expensive to abort. Why would someone even do that if there wasn't a medical necessity? What, they just wanted to wait for things to be harder and more expensive?
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  181.  @SarahErsch  She was referring specifically to viable fetuses, referring to late term abortions.
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  182. Why? She seems like a great mom.
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  183. Trans women using a locker room for its indended purpose is not the same thing as "showing off their genitalia" and you know it.
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  184.  @michaelcicciarelli1742  What about them?
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  185.  @valvevac-systemchecker3773  "Dictate how their entire lives are going to be shaped"? What are you talking about? What do you think transitioning is for a child? I think you may have been misinformed.
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  186.  @valvevac-systemchecker3773  But what do you think transitioning actually is for a child? Like practically speaking?
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  187.  @valvevac-systemchecker3773  How is it to their detriment?
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  188. Stay mad
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  189.  @Shaggy_Norville_Rogers  If you think people are waiting for months to get an abortion simply because they're "lazy" you are genuinely just an insane person.
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  190. But you can have an abortion.
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  191.  @sonofmenoetius  I hope you learn to love and accept yourself someday. There's nothing wrong with being gay.
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  192. Or when something's not happening.
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  193. She was referring specifically to late term abortions.
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  194. Guess what? Conservative parents have trans kids too. But they tend to hide it from their parents for their own safety.
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  195. How so?
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  196. Men in the ladies room is exactly what you'd have if reactionary transphobes got their wish. Big, hairy, bearded trans men using women's rooms.
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  197. Nah, she's just been brainwashed into the same cult as you.
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  198. Privilege doesn't mean you automatically don't have a hard life.
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  199. Conservatism and logic have nothing to do with one another.
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  200. Millennials are grown adults
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  201.  @SelahRea  What's there to be proud of?
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  202.  @shiroishii7846  Conservatism isn't normal.
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  203.  @shiroishii7846  Anything else?
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  204. Republicans' idea of "the best it can be" is theocratic fascism.
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  205. She was the best one here.
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  206. "I'm sure everything will be fine if private corporations with the sole purpose of making profit are allowed to dictate every aspect of our lives, with nothing resembling democracy existing at all"
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  207. Late term abortions happen when they're medically necessary. But no one who doesn't want to have a kid waits for 8 months to get an abortion.
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  208. Why's that?
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  209. Cindy did nothing wrong.
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  210. It's hypocritical to care more about poor people and elementary school students who get shot to death at school than about zygotes and fetuses?
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  211. I hope they have her on again!
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  212. Being trans isn't a disorder, and you're conflating gender and sex.
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  213. Trans women are women, so there's no issue. Besides, their rights take precedence over your comfort, so I suggest you get over it.
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  214.  @Kyman315  Okay.
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  215. Like what?
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  216. Weird then that gun violence is so much lower in European countries where gun ownership is illegal. You act like this level of gun violence is unavoidable but that's clearly not the case.
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  217. How so?
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  218. I don't think that's fine.
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  219. We need more people like her.
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  220.  @randomdistruction  Politeness and civility are overrated in my opinion, especially considering what's at stake. When people are trying to take away LGBTQ+ rights, there's no more room for "respectfully disagreeing".
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  221. If you're a trans kid, and your parents are a pair of reactionary transphobic conservatives, are you coming out to them?
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  222. Of course there is.
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  223.  @Lorbuckey I've literally seen them with my own eyeballs.
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  224.  @Lorbuckey Is your blatant denial of easily observable reality some sort of bit? Are you "trolling", as the kids say?
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  225. And yet other countries with stricter gun laws don't have anywhere near the same amount of gun violence as the US.
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  226.  @kiziro102x  Abortion isn't "sentencing children to death".
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  227. If you won't support your kid being into people of the same gender, frankly you're not suited to be a parent.
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  228. The same opportunities as everyone? Are you sure about that?
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  229.  @theydontknowmeson...  So someone born into poverty has the same opportunities as someone born into wealth?
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  230. Because you believe the false notion that progressive people are more likely to have LGBTQ+ kids?
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  231. Skill issue
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  232. Do you think those are the only two types of rifles? And what do you mean she "isn't a parent"?
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  233.  @harry_burnsworth  That's an insane thing to do.
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  234.  @oocanadat1  You don't need a bunch of irrational religious beliefs to have morals. In fact, they often cause great immorality, like the whole reactionary attitude towards LGBTQ+ people.
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  235.  @oocanadat1  It sounds to me like you're defending your own brainwashing. Sad.
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  236. She was the best one here, and the more you people in the comments whine about her, the more I like her.
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  237. That is an insane thing to say.
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  238. Why?
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  239. Reactionary freak.
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  240. Why? Do you have stomach problems or something? Are you ill?
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  241.  @jackwalters3928  They're pointing out your ignorance and your response is that they're living under a rock? That doesn't even make sense lmao
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  242. Cry about it, Zionist.
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  243. Yikes
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  244. We should get Brett Cooper to leave YouTube and never return
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  245.  @smileydog5941  So is wearing a seatbelt. Should hospitals refuse to help people who didn't wear a seatbelt?
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  246. Of course it would be. I wouldn't exist to feel any way about it. It's effectively the same as my parents deciding not to have a kid. It creates a situation where I don't exist, and so it doesn't affect me because there was never a "me" for it to affect.
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  247. Public bathrooms aren't guarded or anything. Someone with bad intentions isn't going to transition to get in there. This is fear mongering based on entirely made up scenarios.
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  248. Source?
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  249. People don't choose to be trans.
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  250. True, most smart people are leftists by then.
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  251. The brainwashed child?
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  252. Do you think those are the only kinds?
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  253. We love to see it
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  254. Fascists should not be given a platform.
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  255.  @moniqueengleman873  Lose the scare quotes. Trans boys are boys.
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  256. This feels like projection. I see so much religiosity and conspiracy theory nonsense among conservatives.
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  257. Who? Where?
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  258.  @StayWoke.Fellas  "Just buy a house lol" wow brilliant stuff here
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  259. I'm happy that her transgender child has an accepting mother, and not a reactionary conservative who'd sooner send them to conversion therapy. Now that would be the definition of a bad person.
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  260. I hope they bring her back!
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  261. In my experience there's a huge overlap between very religious conversatives and unhinged conspiracy theorists.
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  262. Why should the means of production remain privately owned instead of being owned by the workers?
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  263. Skill issue
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  264. Look up "Gender Identity Nondiscrimination Laws in Public Accommodations: a Review of Evidence Regarding Safety and Privacy in Public Restrooms, Locker Rooms, and Changing Rooms"
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  265. And those abortions aren't done with viable fetuses.
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  266. There's no need to insult him like that.
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  267. They obviously do.
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  268. Cis women have raped each other too.
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  269. Three boys.
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  270.  @preacherlanebrock8155  The bible contradicts our evidence-supported scientific understanding of the world in multiple places and contains many unproven supernatural claims. This isn't "spiritual warfare", this is a lot of people irrationally believing that everything in an ancient book is true, and the rest of society trying to deal with them and their reactionary political views.
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  271. Cindy is incredibly based
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  272.  @whosflair3716  Correct, these kids are an embarassment.
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  273. How is being a stay at home mom the result of capitalism?
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  274. Yes, but probably not for the reasons you're imagining
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  275. Her?
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  276.  @skiiminette6725  Just because a bunch of outraged reactionaries claim something's happening, doesn't mean it's happening.
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  277. Do you really think that's some sort of contradiction?
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  278. "Transing" is not a thing, dipshit.
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  279. Why would I want to be friends with someone with reprehensible beliefs?
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  280. @MiggerLicka  Political beliefs aren't inconsequential like a favorite color, but instead show something about who a person is at their core.
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  281.  @gigachad1021  You don't have kids.
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  282.  @gigachad1021  Nobody "becomes trans" You either are or you aren't. And if you're willing to disown a kid over who they are, you shouldn't be a parent.
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  283. I don't believe that's what she said. But why should she not be a parent?
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  284. Why?
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  285. no u
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  286. It is transphobia.
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  287. We need more people like her.
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  288. Minimum wage increasingly does not cover the cost of living in many places. House prices and rent prices are constantly rising. Education is costing people a lot more than it did decades ago. You can't just frame this as "everyone gets richer", because there is a divide between the poor and the rich that's constantly growing.
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  289. Being LGBTQ+ is not a choice.
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  290. Your entire comment applies to you, cultist.
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  291. Three sons, shithead.
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  292.  @kumeoii  Yes, I'm pretty sure the person who believes that abortions are increasing their imaginary bogeyman's power level is the insane one, yes.
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  293. Abortion should be legal for literally anyone who wants to get one.
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  294. The consequence is getting an abortion, dipshit.
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  295.  @JoeFolgers  Incorrect.
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  296.  @aman.1678  Commitment to being irrationally hateful and ignorant. Sad.
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  297. I don't think you do.
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  298. How do you mean?
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  299. Where did she say that her kids should feel guilty because of their ancestors?
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  300.  @tokemotoke1728  But I don't recall her ever saying anything about guilt, unless I missed it?
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  301. Maybe conservatism should try being a better political position
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  302. She'd be a bad mother if she didn't support her trans kid.
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  303. Imagine being a conservative 😬
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  304.  @Genevieve.D  Why wouldn't you judge people by that?
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  305. She was referring specifically to late term abortions.
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  306. Is it? Because why would someone who wants an abortion wait until they're that late into the pregnancy?
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  307. So true, we should nationalize the healthcare system entirely
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  308. What's funny about that?
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  309. Do you think the only possible types of firearm are semiautomatic and automatic?
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  310. Meritocracy under capitalism is a lie.
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  311. Based
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  312.  @drewdirenzo  On the first topic, she was saying no one is transitioning or pretending to transition just to access women's spaces for nefarious purposes. Of course there's instances of people being sexually assaulted by trans people, there's bound to be horrible people in any category of human beings. A study from 2018 concluded that inclusive bathroom policy did not decrease the safety of said bathroom. There's just no data that shows that trans people are in any way a threat in these spaces. To point to one or two examples would be to ignore that cisgender people sexually assault others too. On the second topic, she wasn't saying no one has very late term abortions, she was saying that people generally don't have them unless it's for a medical reason. It would make no sense for someone who simply doesn't want to be pregnant to wait for 8 months before getting an abortion. And yes, most abortions (in general, not late term) are done because the pregnant person doesn't want to be pregnant. I don't think anyone in the video claimed otherwise. The "that's not happening" was in regard to people having very late term abortions without medical necessity.
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  313. Source: trust me bro
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  314. That woman in blue 😎
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  315. When it becomes terminal we call it conservatism.
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  316. Not really.
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  317. What was she wrong about?
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  318. "Abortions at or after 21 weeks are uncommon, and represent 1% of all abortions in the US. Typically, these procedures cost well over $1,000, excluding the cost of travel and lost wages. They normally require treatment over multiple days, and are only performed by a subset of all abortion providers. Reasons individuals seek abortions later in pregnancy include medical concerns such as fetal anomalies or maternal life endangerment, as well as barriers to care that cause delays in obtaining an abortion." Why would someone who wants an abortion from the very beginning wait for 8 months?
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  319.  @elyssabyrd  "Very much happening" is definitely an overstatement then
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  320.  @smileydog5941  Trans women are women. And they should absolutely be able to compete after medical transition. After a long enough time on hormone therapy there's very little athletic advantage, and if they were on puberty blockers as teens there's pretty much none, because those differences between male and female development only really start happening around then.
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  321.  @jadabell69  For hunting it seems to me like you don't need something that can fire rapidly. And for civilians you need semi automatic firearms to, what, protect you from other people with semi automatic firearms? Conservatives keep saying that "criminals will get the guns illegally anyway" but other countries with stricter gun laws don't have nearly as much gun violence.
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  322. Conservative parents have trans kids too, they just tend to be in denial about it.
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  323.  @Bible_Brainrot  The one mindlessly regurgitating doctrine?
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  324.  @shaly642  Never medically necessary? People have died from ectopic pregnancies.
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  325.  @fightingforthefuture2941  And neither do aborted fetuses.
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  326. She's b(r)a(inwa)s(h)ed.
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  327. Gelukkig maar.
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  328. Eden is brainwashed. Hopefully she'll learn to think for herself as she grows older.
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  329.  @trainwitchboat8251  I'm not a liberal.
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  330. ​ @BigJohnson6 The best at what?
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  331. @blakebrown3331  Clean water? Don't you guys need to buy filters to make it safe to drink from the tap? Plenty other countries have you beat there. Freedom of speech and religion? Not really uniquely American ideals, that's the norm in most European countries as well. In fact, I'd say that despite officially being a secular country, many parts of the USA are so deeply religious that the people growing up there have no chance against being indoctrinated, as children can easily be kept out of schools and just indoctrinated full time instead. Here in the Netherlands, children are legally required to attend school. Owning firearms? Sure, if that's something you care about. But I don't think that really has a track record of being a positive influence on Americans' wellbeing. More difficult to take freedoms away? Tell that to women trying to get an abortion in the south.
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  332. Conservatives make conservatives look bad.
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  333. True
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  334. Genuinely, who cares?
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  335. Source?
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  336. Why would her opinion have changed?
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  337.  @-FSY- Why?
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  338.  @luckygamermemberofvma7903  You need to go back to biology class.
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  339. Define "innocent" and "human life".
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  340. Wrong.
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  341. She's the best.
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  342. That's an insane thing to say.
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  343. The lady who tied for fourth place with a trans woman and then decided to pivot away from swimming into a career as a reactionary grifter?
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  344. Almost as if trans kids with conservative parents don't tell those parents about it, for their own safety.
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  345. And conservatives love to pretend that colonialism and slavery don't exist in any form anymore, and that these things being widespread in the past have no effect on the way things are today.
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  346.  Necromancer-ji7yb  A fetus is not a "someone" in any even remotely meaningful sense.
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  347. Conservative parents have trans kids too. But instead of accepting them they often deny it completely, often leaving the child in question absolutely miserable or even suicidal. To think that only liberal parents have trans kids and that it's something that comes from the parents is to ignore all the trans people who have horror stories of being rejected by their families.
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  348. Pissing yourself in public would've been less embarassing than commenting this
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  349.  @infoscrolls  You're an insane person
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  350. The overwhelming majority of those have a medical reason. People who simply don't want to be pregnant have no reason to wait for months until the abortion becomes much more difficult and expensive.
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  351. It's the best system for ultra-wealthy ghouls. Not for anyone else.
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  352. They could start treating addiction like a medical issue rather than a criminal one. Instead of locking people up for drug abuse, give them the help they need.
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  353. Cindy did nothing wrong.
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  354. I hope she breaks free from the indoctrination someday.
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  355. "Nooooooo why are you supporting trans people haven't you seen our very serious documentary?????"
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  356. It does, it's called the prison industrial complex. It's a major reason why the "War on Drugs" happened. Did you know that the 13th amendment makes an exception for people who have been convicted for a crime? If you can get people into prison, you can have them work for almost no pay.
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  357. What are you basing that on?
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  358. And why would a civilian need to own one of those?
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  359. Or it could be that trans kids who have conservative parents don't tell their parents about it, for their own safety. There's no shortage of horror stories from trans people whose families denied they were trans, tried to send them to conversion therapy, and generally subjected them to abusive behavior.
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  360. Capitalism is currently not working.
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  361.  @LiamMcNally-w7s  It's working for the select few people who can hoard the majority of the wealth in the world at the expense of everyone else. For everyone else, not so much. Basic human needs like housing, food, healthcare, and even planet habitability are all sacrificed in the name of profit for the wealthy few.
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  362. If regressive religious ideas like hers "add variety" then I'll take a boring society instead where LGBTQ+ people's rights aren't under attack
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  363. That's okay, I like her enough for the both of us.
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  364. The effective treatment for gender dysphoria is transitioning. The evidence for this is overwhelming. You can't compare this to affirming anorexic people, they are simply different conditions that need different treatments. To say otherwise is thoroughly unscientific.
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  365.  @Michelin_gains  Feelings
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  366. "Not pristine" is putting it extremely mildly. The United States of America is a country built on genocide and exploitation. And the latter is still done to this very day through capitalism, and more specifically through the prison industrial complex (as the thirteenth amendment specifically makes an exception for people convicted of a crime).
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  367. Where is it happening then? And when did she say "oh now I'm a trendy mom"? Seems to me like she supported her child, like all parents should.
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  368. Why would someone wait until that point?
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  369. I think I may have permanently damaged by eyes by rolling them too hard.
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  370. True, conservatives just don't really know what they're talking about
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  371. Lmao
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  372. Cope
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  373. Lmao
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  374. Why?
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  375. Huh? What are you saying?
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  376.  @haruka_niki  Their comment just seemed kind of incoherent. "There is really news cast"? And what's a "kids locker room", when did we start dividing those by age?
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  377. Conservative teens exist because of brainwashing by billionaire-funded reactionary media companies.
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  378. Because conservative ideas are harmful to society.
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  379. How is she "ruining her kids' lives"?
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  380. She's the best person here.
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  381. Why?
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  382.  @JJ-zn6ql  I don't think that's a compliment lmao
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  383. Kimbeck4194 steals toilet paper from people's houses. It's all over the news, google it
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  384. I hope she breaks free from the religious programming someday.
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  385. That's not how that works.
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  386. Cindy was the most correct person here.
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  387. They would, but they'd be miserable. Would that be preferable to you?
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  388.  @eddubs688  Because people aren't "made trans" by their parents. We know this from all the trans people who grew up with reactionary and transphobic parents.
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  389. I don't care how civil conservatives are, conservatism is a vile and irrational ideology.
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  390. "Very full-blown conservative"? What does that mean?
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  391. @Joxar There's nothing intelligent about conservatism. This can objectively be demonstrated by more educated people having consistently more liberal political views, statistically speaking. Conservative media outlets know this too, which is why the whole "wOkE mArXiStS aRe InFiLtRaTiNg CoLlEgEs!!!" conspiracy theory exists. Conservatives do love their conspiracy theories.
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  392. Because she supports her kid?
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  393. ​ @sethmorgan0305 okay snake boy.
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  394. How so?
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  395. ​ @Burger_Baron  "Trans their kid"?
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  396. Meaning, she's well-liked by reactionary morons.
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  397. Everyone who isn't a billionaire should have contempt for capitalism.
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  398.  @orangeorangeorange5075  I like the concept of people having the resources they need to live, yes
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  399.  @MM-jh4cp  Why wouldn't you try to improve it?
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  400. Conservatism is a net negative for society. It's about time we stop being tolerant of their harmful ideas.
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  401. What cases?
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  402. Ah yes. Here in Europe we are constantly terrorized by big muscular men who do as they please. This is a very real problem and not a silly made up thing at all, nope.
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  403. Regurgitating stuff from the bible is "wisdom"?
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  404. Christofascist.
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  405. You're not a woman if you can't give birth? That disqualifies plenty of cis women as well.
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  406. I don't think it's useful or rational to consider a zygote a "human life".
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  407. There is no "organisation" lmao
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  408. If trans men are using women's rooms it's because conservatives are legally forcing them to.
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  409. Trans women are using women's spaces, yes. Because they're women. But they're not going in there to be creeps or to hurt anyone.
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  410.  @criptard  This current reactionary transphobic moral panic, the various meaningless "culture war" outrages about syrup bottles and light beer endorsements and the like, anti-immigration stances, anti-public education stances or even anti-education in general, the obsession with being able to own a gun despite the prevalence of firearms drastically increasing the likelihood of gun violence. Is that enough for now?
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  411. Why would someone arbitrarily wait until that point to have an abortion?
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  412. It's "yikes" that she has a trans kid?
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  413. What's weird about that?
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  414.  @maleighlovesbroadway  Because we know how religion works. The reason it's still around is because childhood indoctrination is an explicit part of it.
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  415. Based
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  416. Why?
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  417. Oh brother.
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  418. Better in what aspect?
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  419. I'm glad she annoyed you
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  420. 😬
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  421. Her?
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  422. She was referring specifically to late-term abortions.
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  423.  @shadowyshadow6498  Who waits 8 months to get an abortion if it's not for a medical reason?
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  424. Her?
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  425.  @t_dawglivid  They owned other human beings as slaves
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  426.  @valvevac-systemchecker3773  It has.
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  427. Getting an abortion is taking responsibility.
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  428. Why would you care about what those grifters have to say?
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  429. But we can beat them.
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  430. Source?
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  431. Cindy was completely correct.
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  432. They need even more reactionaries and brainwashed cultists?
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  433. Conservative parents have trans kids too. They just tend to have to hide who they are from their parents for their own safety. What kind of failure of a parent doesn't accept their kids?
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  434. Why's that?
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  435. What do you mean?
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  436. True
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  437. Abortion at that stage is only really done out of medical necessity. Why would someone who doesn't want to be pregnant just wait around for months until an abortion becomes much more difficult?
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  438. The enlightened centrist has logged on
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  439. Based
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  440. Only the wealthy, who can profit off the labor of ohers, truly benefit from capitalism.
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  441.  @hymgg  And it's worse for it.
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  442. Why's that? She seems pretty cool to me.
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  443. Most emotionally stable conservative
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  444. Conservatism is a dogshit ideology though.
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  445.  @chester6343  It's "stable" only in that it's inert. Unwilling to improve, because it believes improving society to make it more fair and equal is a bad thing. Because its adherents believe they're better off in a less equal, less fair world.
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  446. We need more.
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  447. She seems fine to me.
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  448. You're embarassingly ignorant. Healthcare exists to keep people alive and healthy, not to make a profit. Profit over healthcare will always come at the expense of people's well-being.
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  449. Nah she's cool.
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  450. Bolt-action, lever-action, pump-action, literally anything where there's a separate manual action in between shots. Used to be the norm when US gun laws were made.
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  451. I think it does make you a bad person.
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  452. Like conversion therapy?
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  453.  @steve19811  So trans people should "affirm themselves" cis then?
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  454. Trans people do not pose a threat to cis people in public bathrooms. There's no statistical evidence suggesting they are.
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  455. Billionaires hoard gargantuan amounts of wealth through the labor of others. Framing this as something benevolent is extremely inaccurate to reality.
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  456. Still crazy to me that there's people who think "the truth" is a collection of myths written down thousands of years ago.
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  457. ​ @user-ld3si9iy6s  I'm truly sorry you feel that way.
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  458.  @user-ld3si9iy6s  I can't hate someone I don't believe exists.
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  459. Her?
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  460. I hope she changes that.
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  461.  @samuelsprings7245  Shapiro is a reactionary grifter who perpetually looks and sounds 14 and famously can't make his wife's "p-word" wet.
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  462. Conservatism should be abandoned by all humanity.
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  463. Why do you think it's necessary for society that the means of production are privately owned?
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  464. It's even worse when you realize that this is by design. The prison-industial complex demands a constrant supply of inmates for cheap exploitable labor. Crime actually going down would be bad for their business model.
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  465. Can you demonstrate that it is?
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  466. Why would someone wait until that point?
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  467.  @hettinga359  So irresponsible people should have their bodily autonomy taken away by the state?
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  468. So you think people are just pregnant and planning to abort it but waiting around for multiple months for fun? Do you think they like having a more expensive and complicated procedure?
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  469. What a bizarre notion, practically an anti-scientific and anti-intellectual one. That we should return to ancient ideas, from before the enlightenment.
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  470.  @abdulrazaqal-obaidli4875  What about biology?
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  471. Lmao
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  472. Just like in real life!
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  473. Cool
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