Comments by "You\x27re boring me now" (@You.are.boring.me.now2024) on "Chris At Speakers Corner" channel.

  1. I like that it was a female judge in the Edward Little case , a woman handing down a very long prison sentence must have irked more than the sentence itself.
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  2.  @AlonzoHarris235  An academic that does not want to expose himself and his family to your violent cult, deal with his arguments/claims.
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  3. Someone does not understand the arguments being made!
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  4. You really have no idea, you are regurgitating the standard nonsense bouncing around in your echo chambers.
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  5.  @adamraj8517  so you haven't read it? The ‘Gospel of Barnabas’ Chapter 42 Jesus confessed, and said the truth: ' I am not the Messiah .' Chapter 97 Jesus answered: 'The name of the Messiah is admirable, for God himself gave him the name when he had created his soul, and placed it in a celestial splendour. God said: 'Wait Mohammed ; for thy sake I will to create paradise, the world, and a great multitude of creatures, whereof I make thee a present, insomuch that whoso shall bless thee shall be blessed, and whoso shall curse thee shall be accursed. When I shall send thee into the world I shall send thee as my messenger of salvation, and thy word shall be true, insomuch that heaven and earth shall fail, but thy faith shall never fail." Mohammed is his blessed name .' Where in the Quran is Muhammad called ‘the Messiah’ ?
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  6. Typical irrelevant and incoherent Muslim copy/paste post.
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  7. Calling something a "science" does not make it science, you have a defective consonantal text which is attributed to Uthman in the most popular Islamic tradition, it could be and was read in a multitude of different ways which led to an explosion of reading traditions, 50+ according to Shady Nasser, this consonantal text even has regional variants and this is understood by Muslim scholars as well as non Muslim scholars, see Marijn van Putten and Hythem Sidky. Scholars from the 9th/10th century started selecting what they considered to be acceptable readings but it was not until the 10th century when one came along with sufficient political clout to make his selection stick, that was ibn Mujahid and he came under fire for picking seven readers as it caused confusion among the masses who thought these were the seven "ahruf" , the "ahruf" of course being a 9th century tradition concocted to excuse the multiple Qurans, that story in itself is problematic. You will not get the truth on this subject from Ali Atai and you will definitely not get it from an ignorant tiktok guy like DoD.
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  8.  @mhamedkhattabi5863  ps Some of those readings that were later "canonised" (declared acceptable) had been rejected by earlier scholars such as al-Tabari.
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  9. "Bobby's perspective", seriously? The man is an imbecile (no offence intended to imbeciles).
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  10. Because the claim that "Muhammad" is mentioned in previous scripture is Islamic nonsense.
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  11.  @oneandtruth  You don't understand logic, do you?
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  12.  @oneandtruth  Confirming that you either did not watch or are incapable of understanding!
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  13. These folks are so dishonest when it comes to the variant readings, most Muslims do not have a clue on this topic, those that are aware just regurgitate the rubbish they get fed by these apologists who seem to interchange the words "ahruf" and "qiraat" to intentionally muddy the waters, non of them seem to be aware of the regional variants in the basic skeletal text, even though they have been known by Muslim scholars forever. Probably a typo but the claim is that these variants are complementary and not complimentary, which is problematic in itself, how do you enhance or add to the "perfect word of 'God'" ? He's had an eternity to say exactly what he wanted to say.
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  14. "Jake" is an angry and unintelligent man.
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  15. Nonsense is still nonsense no matter how many times you post it! ***To the YT trust and safety team*** Before threatening account closure for the umpteenth time can you please check whether anything I have said is factually incorrect, not supported by Islamic sources or a direct response to hateful and abusive comments by the person who reported me and it would be nice if you actually identified exactly what was supposedly hateful and why. Due to the preponderance of false flagging from a very specific group of people I will be wording my comments very carefully to avoid it, your “community guidelines” and willingness to appease are being weaponised to prevent any criticism of/response to the dishonest and often abhorrent views being expressed by some on your platform.
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  16. You people really are nasty.
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  17. The overwhelming majority of Muslims do not speak Arabic but the overwhelming majority act like they do.
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  18. Yeah sure! Muslims are not the problem.
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  19. Typical irrelevant and incoherent Muslim copy/paste post.
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  20.  @uthman2281  And that is the dilemma which, like Farid, you cannot answer.
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  21.  @uthman2281  OH but I do, you though clearly do not want to even acknowledge your problem, you will shrug your shoulders and say "it can't be so because that would mean everything I have been told about my little book is a lie".
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  22.  @mhamedkhattabi5863  You clearly know very little about the collection, compilation or "canonisation" of your Quran or the history of the variant readings so you simply puff out your chest out and bluff in imitation of useless apologists like this DoD fella, but that is the norm for the Muslim masses.
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  23. The Muslim masses are quite happy to be fooled by people like "DawahOverDunya" , it saves them having to think for themselves. ***Note to the YT trust and safety team*** Before threatening account closure for the umpteenth time can you please check whether anything I have said is factually incorrect, not supported by Islamic sources or a direct response to hateful and/or abusive comments by the person who reported me or the person who made the original comment, and it would be nice if you actually identified exactly what was supposedly hateful and why. Due to the preponderance of false flagging from a very specific group of people I will be wording my comments very carefully to avoid it, your “community guidelines” and willingness to appease are being weaponised to prevent any criticism of/response to the dishonest and often abhorrent views being expressed by some on your platform.
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  24.  @adamraj8517  You continue with the usual ignorant script, so is it the "Gospel of Barnabas" that is wrong or your Quran , or both?
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  25. The variants are not simply dialectical, they are not just a question of pronunciation, there are different words which do on occasion change the local meaning of the text (if not the core message of the Quran) , the hadith that Muslims appeal to for the seven "ahruf" story have two people from the same tribe who would have spoken the same dialect reciting surah al-Furqan in different ways, why? Also it is generally accepted that al-Furqan was about the 40th surah revealed, how come nobody had noticed these variant recitations before that? Scholars , including Muslim scholars, acknowledge that there are textual variants in the basic consonantal text in the regional codices . It may be time to re-evaluate what your imams and apologists have been telling you.
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  26. Got you ! Maybe you should listen, you may learn something.
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  27. You Muslims do not understand the concept of free speech and its limitations, you are just dumb!
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  28. Muslim troll, from an ideology with multiple doctrines of permissible lying and so many "Muslims" are addicted to drink , drunks and other men.
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  29. Also al-Tabari rejected some of those readings that were later selected as being canonical.
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  30.  @inquisitivemind007  There were no "canonical" readings before ibn Mujahid and the later selected readings came centuries after him.
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  31.  @oneandtruth  ps His argument is that according to the Quran the Gospel and the Torah are preserved and available in the 7th century, he made it very clear he was not talking about the Tenach or the rest of the New Testament, it seems you did not even watch the debate and if you did you lack the ability to understand.
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  32.  @Egyptian_muslim_1  ps You demonstrate the typical Muslim ignorance of what "Christians" actually believe but that comes as no surprise because the authors(s) of your Quran share your ignorance! You are proud because you have swallowed the crap you have been fed. I'm done with you.
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  33. Because he was talking about what the Quran says, that the "Gospel" and the "Torah" were preserved and available in the 7th century.
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  34. Muslims do love their ignorant copy/pastes!
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  35. It really doesn't.
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  36. The usual ignorant script and no I am not a "Christian" .
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  37. Oh excuse me, I should have scrolled down to see you are a Muslim copy/paste troll.
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  38. Lucky for you Disney does measure IQ!
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  39. If they made the same ludicrous claims for the Bible that Muslims make for the Quran then yes it would mean the Bible was finished. but they don't.
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  40. aka @ etzal Kaplan & many other aliases. Another change of identity , same old ignorant and dishonest script!
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  41. You do realise that "Christians" are not required to pray at particular times, in particular ways or in a language they do not understand, right?
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  42. Marijn van Putten's "Quranic Arabic: From its Hijazi Origins to its Classical Reading Traditions" is a difficult but interesting read.
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  43. How is pointing out the demonstrable historic problems with your manuscripts and reading traditions and comparing it to the claims of the Muslim masses "making it like Christianity", maybe it is time that Muslims were a bit more honest about their book.
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  44. Have you really or are your tribal loyalties speaking?
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  45. He's a complete halfwit.
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  46. What did Gandhi say about numbers and "the truth" ?
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  47. It is difficult to listen to these people, they are aggressive, ignorant, arrogant, condescending with an unwarranted sense of superiority, when in reality they are simply dumb!
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  48. What's your opinion and why, can you do better than Farid?
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  49.  @uthman2281  That's what it says, that's your dilemma! No evidence for your fictional "injeel" or "tawraat" in the 7th century.
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  50.  @uthman2281  My Bible? I'm agnostic/atheist. You obviously do not even understand the problem you have.
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  51.  @uthman2281  You are clearly not that bright, I am not one who clubs baby seals, enjoy your ignorance.
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  52.  @uthman2281  Your Quran makes the claim and the evidence has been presented only you are too ignorant or dishonest to address it, that's your problem, in my eyes the Quran is garbage, not even a good read.
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  53.  @AlonzoHarris235  Go away troll!
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  54. Do you believe it is a genuine "gospel" about your "Isa ibn Maryam"?
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  55.  @adamraj8517  It contradicts your Quran on who is "the messiah" , so is your Quran wrong?
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  56. It is the "that was with them" at the time of Muhammad that is relevant, it could speaking smurfs and the scripture that 7th century smurfs had, of course smurfs were actually Muslims.
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  57. The belief in multiple divine beings and a divine/human redeemer were not unknown to pre "Christian" Isrealites (see Alan F Segal & Daniel Boyarin) Boyarin states in his book The Jewish Gospels: The Story of the Jewish Christ states that the only radical thing about Christianity was that Jesus was this divine/human redeemer. There was a range of religious beliefs among early Jews/Christians and these were debated for generations, a chap called prof Jim Papandrea explains this as 'heresy' forcing 'orthodoxy' to define itself, which is what happened at the council of Nicaea. You share the ignorance of your apologists or maybe you are just parroting them. Don't bother asking me to explain or defend the doctrine of the trinity, as an agnostic/atheist I do not believe any of the so called "Abrahamic" faiths. ***To the YT trust and safety team*** Before threatening account closure for the umpteenth time can you please check whether anything I have said is factually incorrect, not supported by Islamic sources or not a direct response to hateful and/or abusive comments by the person who reported me or the person who made the original comment , and it would be nice if you actually identified exactly what was supposedly hateful and why. Due to the preponderance of false flagging from a very specific group of people I will be wording my comments very carefully to avoid it, your “community guidelines” and willingness to appease are being weaponised to prevent any criticism of/response to the dishonest and often abhorrent views being expressed by some on your platform.
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  58.  @Always-S17  You said no such thing , you said Jews totally rejected the idea of a divine human, you are parroting an ignorant script!
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  59. And your evidence is ?
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  60.  @hhussain9293  So nothing but the standard ignorant Muslim script? OK , got it!
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  61. I think you should check with your GP in case you are a (censored for YT, enter your own pejorative) ***Note to the YT trust and safety team and only the YT team*** Before putting me on “the naughty step” again and threatening account closure for the umpteenth time can you please check whether anything I have said is factually incorrect, not supported by Islamic sources or a direct response to hateful and/or abusive comments by the person who reported me or the person who made the original comment, and it would be nice if you actually identified exactly what was supposedly hateful and why by responding to my feedback, feedback that you request. Due to the preponderance of false flagging from a very specific group of people I will be wording my comments very carefully to avoid it, your “community guidelines” and willingness to appease are being weaponised to prevent any criticism of/response to the dishonest and often abhorrent views being expressed by some on your platform.
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  62. YT are being a bit pathetic with their censoring of late. Farid needs only to respond, whatever he says will be good enough for his little fanboys.
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  63. I have no idea , who keeps track and has the figures ?
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  64. You've never actually read anything by Marijn van Putten have you? "There are about 60 locations in the Quran, where these regional codices have a slightly different consonantal skeleton . The way that these variants are distributed form a perfect, uncontaminated, stemma (Cook 2004). When such regional difference in consonantal skeleton appears, it is consistently followed closely by the readers of these different regions. For example, the Syrian codex exclusively has Q اٮحٮكم 7:141 whereas the other codices have اٮحٮٮكم . This is reflected in the readings where the Syrian reader Ibn ʕāmir reads ʔanǧā-kum,whereas all other readers read ʔanǧaynā-kum (Ibn al-Ǧazarī §3137). Likewise, the Medinan and Syrian codices have Q ٮرٮدد 5:54 where the Basran and Kufan codices have ٮرٮد ; the Syrian Ibn ʕāmir, and the two Medinans Nāfiʕ and ʔabū Ǧaʕfar read this word as yartadid where the other readers read yartadda (Ibn al-Ǧazarī §2989). The agreement of the readings with the rasm cannot be explained by an intentional accommodation of the rasm to already existing local oral traditions.Had this been the case, we would be unable to explain how the Syrian muṣḥaf shares all variants with the Medinan codex and not a single one with the Basran and Kufan codex, etc. So, whatever oral tradition existed was evidently subjected to a requirement to agree with the rasm rather than the rasm being updated to match the regional qirāʔāt . It is for these reasons that we must think of the Quranic reading traditions as being just that, primarily readings of the rasm. " (pages 52/55 Quranic Arabic From its Hijazi Origins to its Classical Reading Traditions - Marijn van Putten
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  65. Under the heading of "Reading or Recitation" Marijn van Putten states "The agreement of the readings with the rasm cannot be explained by an intentional accommodation of the rasm to already existing local oral traditions. Had this been the case, we would be unable to explain how the Syrian muṣḥaf shares all variants with the Medinan codex and not a single one with the Basran and Kufan codex, etc. So, whatever oral tradition existed was evidently subjected to a requirement to agree with the rasm rather than the rasm being updated to match the regional qirāʔāt . It is for these reasons that we must think of the Quranic reading traditions as being just that, primarily readings of the rasm. " So DOD all you really needed was a defective consonantal text that could be and was read in a multitude of different ways, you can download his book for free, that can be your second book.
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  66.  @oneandtruth  Listen to a more intelligent Muslim on the topic search YT for "EP 137: Revisiting the Corrupted Bible Argument | Dr. Ali Ataie" , you won't find the full episode because the Muslims deleted it but you will find the interesting parts saved by "Christians".
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  67. Public conversion is a very Islamic thing, Muslims turning to any other religion tend to keep it quiet, any idea why?
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  68. What about the topic ?
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  69.  @B.Y.A  So nothing on the topic then, just the usual empty rhetoric? Got it!
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  70.  @B.Y.A  Still nothing on the topic then? Got it!
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  71.  @B.Y.A  Still nothing !
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  72.  @B.Y.A  I'm agnostic/atheist and pig is lovely ! Save your ignorant and well worn troll script for somebody else!
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  73.  @B.Y.A  ps Convenient for your quasi historical "prophet" that Camel suddenly became permissible having also been forbidden in Deuteronomy 14 but typically you chose to ignore that bit or you have never actually read it, of course your quasi historical "prophet" gave credit to your one dimensional caricature of the Biblical Jesus in a very conveniently vague passage of the Quran (3:50)(the Quran is a masterpiece in vagueness). Interestingly 3:49 is a story taken from Christian apocrypha , a book which depicts the infact "Jesus" and an angry and vindictive child who kills others and it also has a variant reading which, although not a particularly serious one, does demonstrate that there are different wordings.
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  74.  @B.Y.A  Troll with an ignorant script ! (you of course).
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  75. Why proud ?
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  76.  @Egyptian_muslim_1  "3 dead triune God"? Who exactly "worships" such a "God" and why are you "proud"?
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  77.  @Egyptian_muslim_1  I'm agnostic/atheist, so what/who are you speaking about? And why are you "proud" to have been born into a "faith"?
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  78.  @Egyptian_muslim_1  I guess you have no idea why you are proud !
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  79.  @Egyptian_muslim_1  "Why you refuse to talk my comments" You are not speaking English ! Why are you proud to be born into a religion?
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  80.  @Egyptian_muslim_1  Nor do I ! So why are you proud ??
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  81. It's not a contradiction , it is an exception to the rule , the Muslim view is that the scripture given to the Jews and Christians was revealed by "Allah" and that the original followers of "Christ" were Muslims following Islam , that it was the trinitarians who eventually claimed orthodoxy and strayed away from the Islamic "Christ" is not relevant, they were still people who had been given the scripture even if they do not follow it correctly. The verses that talk of "three" are not addressing the trinity , they are appear to be speaking to a tri-theistic group and according to the like of Peter Von Sivers are a monophysite polemic. Early Islam was a totally different beast to the "Islam" that coalesced in the 9th century.
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  82.  @adamraj8517  Shabir Ally is in the same position as the rest of you, none of you have any evidence for these alternate books, certainly not that Jews and Christians had in the 7th century, he is basically saying that the Quran in a bit vague. The council of Nicaea had nothing to do with the Biblical canon and no books were burned, unlike with traditional account of the canonisation of your Quran where the source material was ordered to be burnt.
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  83.  @adamraj8517  Dr Ali Attie has an interesting take on the topic, he also mentions the "Gospel of Barnabas" , this episode has now been removed from "The Mad Mamluks" channel probably due to the push back from their audience. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_IWwFysqIM
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  84. If they are stupid enough to give their money to this grifter, more fool them!
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  85. Ex Met police officer who last served in Westminster, yes they are , politically corrupt to the core.
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  86. Fastest breeding "religion" with the fastest growing apostasy rates according to the likes of "Mufti" Menk!
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  87. Or even a real dude!
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  88. The usual ignorant and lazy Muslim copy/paste post, I wish I had a £1 coin every time you idiots post this!
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