Comments by "Pac Man" (@pacman3556) on "17-year-old boy dead after shooting in Scarborough" video.

  1. Gun violence has been going on since the invention of the gun. I don't support Trudeau or Singh but not everything is political. You sound like an angry little racist drama queen.
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  2. criminals get their guns from "legal" gun owners so there is a direct involvement of a gun owner in this crime.
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  3. there was a group of kids. One of them will talk. And there were cameras. Seems likely they will find who did it.
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  4. who says the victim had to be into something illegal? There was a shooting a few years back not far from this building and the kid that was killed was minding his own business outside the building with his friends when people pulled up and misidentified him as someone else. Also teens fight...they always have unfortunately one of the teens had a gun that led to a murder. Doesn't mean they all had to be in some type of shady "adult behaviour"
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  5. yes. Yes I do feel safer. It is good to know that less guns are available to criminals to do something like this. It is why we have far less gun violence and mass shootings then a place like the USA.
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  6. they do.
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  7.  @gaivsjvlivscaesar9375  no not with a stupid comment. It is clear someone had a gun and shot that kid. Guns don't magically jump out of drawers. So what's your point?
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  8. Nothing is going on with Scarborough. City TV likes to glorify anything that happens in Scarborough. Scarborough is just as safe if not safer than any other part of the city. City TV is going for rating by trying to make Scarborough look bad
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  9. 1- criminals get their guns from the supply of legal guns. Banning guns reduces the supply of guns available to criminals 2- nobody mentioned anything about race. Are you jumping to racist conclusions? 3- who says it had anything to do with gangs or drugs. A person was shot and killed at a building near this place a couple of years ago. He was just minding his own business the shooters mistook him for someone else and killed him. The kid was just minding his own business. Also teenagers fight. They always have. In this case a group of immature kids not responsible enough to make proper decisions had access to a gun and they used it to kill someone. Doesn't mean it had to be drug or gang related. If irresponsible kids didn't have access to the gun in the first place then they wouldn't have been able to shoot someone. 4- claiming that they are all likely immigrants just proves you are a racist pile of dog $hit 5- smuggling hand guns just reinforces that strict gun laws and banning guns works and is effective.
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  10. wtf are you babbling on about?
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  11. you sound stupid.
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  12. Beatrice-- "Mr Ridley why do you have such a short penis and have trouble satisfying a woman?"
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  13. criminals don't make their own guns so this would have been a "legal" registered gun at some point in time. Without the "legal" gun owner there would be far less guns in our society.
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  14. pretty sure the gun plays a big role. Can't really shoot and kill someone without the gun.
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  15. Toronto is not getting worse. Stop over reacting.
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  16. more "legal" gun owners supplying criminals with guns so they can go out an kill people.
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  17. that is an interesting way of telling everyone you are a racist pile of dog $hit.
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  18. wtf are you babbling on about?
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  19. that is an interesting way of telling everyone you are a racist pile of dog $hit.
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  20. ask what?
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  21. try opening your eyes
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  22. so they decided to fake a murder?? Why? You sound stupid.
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  23. that is an interesting way of telling everyone you are a racist pile of dog $hit.
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  24. yeah "nothing will happen" because the police and everyone in that building and society just doesn't give a $hit right? Everyone is just going to say fu$ck who cares that a murder took place we won't bother trying to solve it?? With the amount of cameras in that area plus the fact that it involved a group of people all of which knew each other it won't take much time before someone turns and tells the police who was involved and cameras will support it. Police will figure it out pretty soon. You sound foolish.
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  25. of course they work. Could they be better...sure yes they could. Could we do better preventing smuggled guns or sentencing laws or gang task forces...sure yes we could but just because a crime took place doesn't mean that our laws don't work. Just compare us to a country like the US that is a $hit show of gun violence and you can see our laws work. Funny how you gun nuts can only see things in extreme black or white or right or wrong. Anytime you see something that doesn't support your beliefs is "it never works what a horrible society we live in and we should get rid of all our laws". Crime will always take place regardless of any country's laws it doesn't mean that the laws don't work.
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  26. that is an interesting way of telling everyone you are a racist pile of dog $hit.
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  27. you sound stupid.
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  28.  @brucemitchell5637  or instead of being a closed minded di$ck and telling people to leave the country they live in we could support him and make a difference in our society to make our country like Indonesia. But when you are a selfish cu$nt that only thinks of yourself you would rather push people out of the country that doesn't support your twisted beliefs.
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  29. that is an interesting way of telling everyone you are a racist pile of dog $hit.
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  30. or another gun that a legal gun that a gun owner let fall into the hands of a criminal....i'm sure.
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  31. Nobody banned hunting rifles. And I don't support Trudeau but gun violence has been in existence since the invention of the gun. Not every thing is political. Stop being a little drama queen.
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  32. no we respect what can happen when you get covid and also have concerns over crime. Until tiny minded people we can hold more than one thought in our heads at a time.
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  33. about what?
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  34. you sound stupid.
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  35.  @bobmc1721  1- guns from the US start off just as legal as they do in Canada 2- you can put any law into place that you want however it is clear people break the law and criminals still find ways to get their hands on guns. Prevention does not mean that it never happens. I know. I work for a company that sells firearms and you would be amazed at how many get stolen each year. Just because it is not reported to the public doesn't mean that it doesn't happen 3- a gun owner may be subject to criminal prosecution if their gun ends up in the hands of a criminal but it is not very likely. I have never heard of a gun owner going to jail for 20 years to life for a murder committed by a criminal. Never heard of a gun owner going to jail for 5 to 10 years for an armed robbery with a gun that was theirs. The Nova Scotia shooting is a perfect example. One person went out and legally bought guns and gave them to his friend that he knew was banned from owning guns (which is why he bought them instead of his friend). The friend then shot and killed a whole lot of people. Nothing has happened to the guy that legally bought the guns 4- you example of smuggled guns is a perfect example that proves strict gun laws and banning guns works I would say take your own advice and educate yourself but you gun nuts seem to like living with your head up your a$$hole.
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  36.  @SF80CAMARO  thanks for the pointless comment I will take it as admission you can't address any of the points and have nothing to contribute
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  37.  @bobmc1721  List one contradiction...yeah you can't. That's why you would rather run away then "waste time". Sorry I made you look foolish. You run along now in humiliation. The saddest part of this entire conversation is you learned absolutely nothing and chose to live with your head up your a$$ in a world of ignorant bliss. Some people like to learn. You choose to be a fool.
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  38.  @ezhang128  Not sure what you were hoping to accomplish but you just supported and proven everything I just said: 1- "They suggest a longtime friend in Houlton gifted him one handgun " So you completely agree and prove that legal handgun owners let their guns fall into the hands of criminals. You also fully support that there are no repercussions for the gun owner 2- " he took another from that man's home." So you fully support and agree that criminals don't have to just buy guns from gun owners but they can get them in other ways and the gun owner was not held responsible because they let their gun fall into the hands of a criminal 3- "He also arranged to purchase a high-powered rifle for cash after attending a gun show in the town" So you agree and fully support and prove that criminals don't always use "illegal" guns. They can and do also buy them. You also prove that the store owner that is a legal gun owner let a criminal get a gun and the legal gun owner was not held accountable in any way. 4- "The shooter, who didn't have a firearms licence, smuggled the guns into Canada. Based on American law, he should never have been able to obtain them in the first place" So you fully support and agree that strict gun laws and banning guns works. You prove that when a country has poor laws a criminal can get their hands a on weapon. 5- "He did acquire the gun illegally"- unless he stole it which you prove he didn't then he bought it legally. The store sold it to him And you have just proven that there are no repercussions to the legal gun owner (i.e. the store) for not doing the right thing. According to you the store broke the law and nothing has happened to them. So you just proven that gun owners are not held accountable for their actions so they should not have the privilege of having a gun 6- "your lefty ideology"- not sure how you jump to any unfounded conclusions about anyone's political belief. And not sure how anyone's political belief supports or proves anything. Just because someone wants to make society safer doesn't mean they have to be left right or indifferent. But it does prove that you are not using logic but going purely off your emotional political viewpoints. 7- "Anything perceived to be dangerous: knives, gasoline, rat poison, cars etc should be banned" Comparing a knife, gasoline, rat poison to a gun just shows how ignorant and foolish you are. And by claiming we should ban other items because they are dangerous admits you agree that guns are dangerous. And since you proven that gun owners are not responsible enough or held accountable for having a deadly weapon in our society then they shouldn't have a deadly weapon in our society. 8- "all criminal were once innocent citizens." A- when you have no logic don't try to presume my logic. Not once have I ever said that a criminal is innocent B- however you are correct all people are innocent until they commit a crime so a criminals at some point in time were innocent until they committed a crime. That is how they became a criminal Do you not understand the difference between citizen and criminal? C- according to the Charter of Rights and Freedoms (the thing you try to argue gives you your rights) states all people are innocent until proven guilt. So technically all people even criminals are innocent until the face a jury or are prosecuted by the court system You can't use the Charter of Rights to support you then ignore it when it doesn't. Rights don't only apply to you. 9- "Therefore all citizen are potential criminals" You are absolutely correct. All citizens are capable of becoming criminals. You don't know what is in the mind set of the average citizen. I am not saying all citizens are criminals but all citizen have the potential to break the law. It could be something really minor like "I am just going to shop lift this little item" or "no one will see me run this red light" all the way up to murder. Every person being interviewed after a murder will always say "He was such a nice guy. I would never have thought he could do something like this". That is what they said about the Nova Scotia murderer. His friends as you admit gave him guns because they never saw him as a murderer. Not every citizen is a criminal but everyone under the right circumstances has the potential to break the law or become a criminal. Not saying they all would but the potential is there. Not sure what you were trying to prove but all you did was prove that criminals get guns from legal gun owners and legal gun owners are not held accountable when that gun is used in a crime.
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  39. illegal handguns are illegal. Always have been. Do you understand what the word illegal means?
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  40.  @independentjames1  no stabbings happen with knives not with guns. Are you familiar with what a knife or gun is? Doesn't matter if they know right from wrong. Without the gun they can't shoot someone.
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  41.  @independentjames1  then stay there and stop commenting about things happening in the GTA
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  42. criminals get their guns from legal gun owners so you are correct "legal" gun owners help gangs shoot people up.
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  43.  @PunjabiGhazal  1- gun stores are legal gun owners...are you not familiar with how stores operate? 2- gun owners don't need to sell their guns to a criminal. Criminals can obtain things like guns through other means...are you not familiar with how crime works? Take your own advice and take your BS somewhere else.
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  44.  @Spe3D3m0n  1- guns in the US start off just as legal as they do in Canada 2- so by your own admission a lot of guns but not all come from the US. So banning guns will further reduce the supply of guns available to criminals. Not all but some. And unless you are a sick fu$ck then even one life is more important that your silly little privilege to have a deadly weapon in our society (note key word is "privilege" not "right") 3- all guns start of legal somewhere so all gun crime from start to finish has a legal gun at some point in time involved 4- your example of smuggling guns from the US just further proves that strict gun laws and banning guns works.
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  45.  @Generik97  smuggled guns just reinforces that strict gun laws and banning guns works.
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  46.  @Generik97  huh you seem too stupid to be able to form one thought so to try and address all that babbling you spewed out over multiple comments and spread out over several hours: 1- not sure what you are trying to argue about "straw purchases". All guns start of legal somewhere. How they get into the hands of a criminal is irrelevant. Had the gun not been legally in our society in the first place it would not have been in the hands of a criminal 2- nobody ever said that criminals would be completely stopped. What banning guns does is add one more tool to help prevent criminals from getting guns or make it harder to get guns. And your example of smuggling just reinforces that. 3- "it defeats the entire purpose" just because something is not 100% effective does not mean that it is effective. We still have car accidents so you think we should ban seat belt laws and other traffic laws? 4- "leaves the law abiding vulnerable to the whims of criminals" We covered this. You seem to $tupid to grasp that you are far more likely to shoot yourself or your family then a criminal Also you have no right to pick and choose who you think is a criminal that you can shoot. That would make you an anti vigilant and an anti vigilant is just as dangerous as a criminal 5- "Pew Pew control"-- that just shows your immature mentality. 6- "1. What is your point about stores?" Since you seem to $tupid to grasp it I will try again....STORES ARE LEGAL GUN OWNERS. When you stated that the person from Nova Scotia bought a gun from a store or that criminals buy guns from stores it proves that legal gun owners supply criminals with guns 7- "If criminals can still obtain them thru other means no matter how many barriers you put in their way then what is the point of restricting their lawful possession" This is just a repetition of point #4 above. Nobody ever said it would be the magic silver bullet to end all crime. It is just another tool to reduce and prevent crime. Again we still have car accidents. Doesn't mean we should throw away all traffic laws 8- "is factually not true. For example if a pistol has a barrel that measures 105 mm (4.13 in) or under it is automatically classified as prohibited in Canada" No idea what you are trying to prove. A gun is a gun. All your comment has done is prove that we do ban some guns. And we ban them because they are a deadly dangerous weapon that is used to kill people in our society. So we should continue that and ban all guns...so what? What's your point? 9- "Control is a waste of resources that can be better used to solve the underlying societal issues causing the problem" This is mostly a repetition of point #4 and #7. It is not a waste of resources. It helps prevent crime. However I completely agree with you on the last part of your statement. As I said banning guns is not the only way to fight crime. We also have better border control, we could have better gang task forces, we could have better sentencing laws, we could have better social programs. These are all tools that when added together help fight crime. If we ban guns eliminating the internal source for guns we can then shift resources to better focus on the other tools. however when we still have an internal source it also needs to be addressed. 10- "I'm trying to figure out what your point is." The point is very straight forward. All guns start off legally. Remove the "legal" guns then it removes the supply available to criminals to become "illegal" guns. The less "legal" guns in our society the less "illegal" guns we have 11- " if something is being used for an illegal purpose then it by definition cannot be legal" Sure once a criminal uses something for a crime you label it "illegal" but they got it from a legal source. Similar to making meth. You can purchase all the ingredients legally. But as soon as you make it into meth it becomes "illegal" You are the one that seems to lack any common sense 12- "yet we don't irrationally demonize, control or ban them" We demonize, control and ban lots of things. Is this your first day on Earth? 13- "They are not a privilege and are in fact right" This is Canada not the USA. It is not a right to own a gun. It has always been a privilege. However it is a right that Canadians are allowed to live in a safe and free country. Your privilege ends when it infringes upon everyone else's rights. Rights apply to everyone. 14- "We have the natural right to defend ourselves" Depends on what you mean. I don't believe there is anything in our Charter of Rights and Freedoms about your right to defend yourself. However you can defend yourself. But you don't have the right to own a gun. Your argument is repeating the points above. You don't have the right to pick and choose who you think is a criminal that you can shoot. Most of what you wrote was just repeating the same point over and over just in different phrases.
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  47.  @Generik97  once again you seem to dim witted to be able to form one coherent thought but instead had to babble out the same repetitve nonsense over a few hours: 1- "I don't care what your arguments" Of course you don't that is typical of you gun nut fools. You think you are correct but when proven wrong you close your mind and cling to your little fantasy. That is called ignorance (ignorance at it's highest levels) 2- "violate our basic natural and human rights." We covered this topic. There is absolutely nothing in our laws or society that gives you the right to have a deadly weapon in our society. Absolutely no right to make our society a more dangerous place. This is Canada you fool. We don't have the right to bear arms. 3- "Simply owning a weapon and carrying it on you doesn't violate any actual human or natural rights" It violates our right that is in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms to be able to live in a free and safe society. We covered this topic. A gun is not a right. Freedom and safety are a right. Rights do not only apply to you. Your rights end when they infringe on other's rights A gun is not even a right 4- "Ultimately your world view will collapse thanks to the internet and 3D printing" No it won't. And internet and 3D printing has nothing to do with this conversation 5- "I can not under any circumstances see any justification for authority to infringe upon individual rights, freedom or liberty" You are absolutely correct. It goes directly back to point #3 above YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO OWN A GUN BUT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO FREEDOM AND A SAFE SOCIETY YOUR RIGHTS CANNOT INFRINGE ON MY RIGHTS It is funny how you fu$cking idi$ot gun nuts all seem to think rights only apply to you RIGHTS APPLY TO EVERYONE!!! NOT JUST YOU And owning a gun is not a right 6- "Every single atrocity in human history has been justified in the name of the common good" No it hasn't. You can try to argue some twisted people have tried to make claims their actions have been for the common good but then you would be getting into a philosophical argument. Nobody supports Hitler or think that what he did was for the common good of man. Nobody supports people like Pol Pot or Lenin or Mao and think they did what they did for the common good. You are one sick fu$ck if you think mass genocide was for the greater good of man However what you wrote has nothing to do with you making our society more dangerous. What you wrote has nothing to do with this topic. 7- "reasonable enough justification to violate individual rights, freedom or liberty NOBODY HAS TAKEN YOUR RIGHT AWAY. But it is funny you want to take away my rights.
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  48.  @vandapietrantonio3310  What is there to tell them? Crime is not getting worse. This is a terrible tragedy and I feel for the families of those that were killed but we don't need over reacting little drama queens making things worse.
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  49.  @SomeTrippyCanadian  murders are not pushed aside you dumb a$$
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  50. this is Canada. We don't have the FBI. And kids (along with all other criminals) don't make their own guns so they are getting them from the supply of legal guns. And what are you implying about the "smirk" on their faces? You think they are supplying kids with guns?
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  51. I don't support the liberals but gun crime has been in existence since the invention of the gun. Not everything is political. Stop being a little drama queen.
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  52. are you trying to say you are a racist without saying you are a racist?
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  53. far better than the US that doesn't have a "pistol ban" and a vast supply of guns. That is the kind of $hit show you want to bring here? You are one sick fu$ck
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  54. On a per capita bases Nunavut has the highest crime rate per 100K people in Canada and they don't have any cities. But in your world ignorance is bliss.
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  55. you sound stupid.
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  56. Even if that were true how does that happening in the US have anything to do with this video about something that happened in Canada? You are on the wrong video.
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  57. if yours is too small to be able to tell then try one of those pump type products or a measuring tape the is in millimeters.
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  58.  @DarthDickhed  yes my comment went right over your head.
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  59. wtf are you babbling about?
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  60. there probably is video. All buildings now a days have cameras around them for security. And with a bunch of teens involved it is only a matter of time before one "breaks" and tells the police who is involved.
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  61. gun violence has been occurring since the invention of the gun. Not everything is political. Stop being a little drama queen.
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  62. you sound stupid.
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  63. banning guns and strict laws do work. Just compare Canada or any other country to a country like the US that doesn't have strict laws and a vast supply of guns. Funny how you gun nuts can only see things in extremes of black and white or right or wrong or completely works or completely fails. Just because we still have crime doesn't mean our laws don't work. You sound like a little drama queen.
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  64. that is an interesting way of telling everyone you are a racist pile of dog $hit.
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  65. you are correct. Stricter gun control laws makes it more difficult for criminals to get guns to commit crimes like this. Just compare Canada or any other country with strict gun laws to a country like the US that doesn't have many laws at all and a vast supply of guns. It is a $hit show of violence down there.
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  66. no it hasn't. Stop being a little drama queen.
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  67. criminals don't make their own guns. All guns start of legal somewhere so you are correct....legal gun owners helping to support crime again.
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  68. yeah because people don't give a $hit if police don't even attempt to solve a murder right??
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  69. no it hasn't. I don't support the liberals but not everything is political. Stop being a little drama queen.
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  70. you sound stupid.
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