Comments by "" (@asgaiyawaya3973) on "An Atheist in the Realm of Myth | Stephen Fry | EP 169" video.

To comment on Fry’s last point no wonder we look at atheists as not being in touch with reality? Now I can’t speak for every Christian, I wish I could in this instance because it depends how well studied he is about the Bible and what church he follows since in my experience no 2 churches are alike. They can share many views up until it crosses into anything uniquely taught there, SDA’s and the sabbath or the kosher diet being 2 examples of this. Anyway, ideally the monk would have responded, “well why would that matter?” And the reason I say ideally is because when you study the relationship between Jesus and his disciples you come across an interesting conversation in Matthew 18:1-4, “At that time the disciples came to Jesus and asked, “Who, then, is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?” He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.” And what’s interesting about this is these disciples asked this expecting Jesus to say Peter or James or whatever but Jesus instead points to the children, because you ask them about such things they simply act like it’s a game of some kind because of course their innocence makes them see the world in such a way. In another conversation Jesus is asked by a wealthy man what can he do to become great in heaven and he said sell everything you have and give everything to the poor. And of course he runs away crying because he worked his whole life for it. The point of both messages is that Christians ideally are discouraged to think in such ways because generally we should be content with what is given to us even if it’s very little. When a Christian does the exact opposite, which I am afraid happens probably more often then not we deviate from that ideal. Should we work hard or please God of course but we do so knowing our reward is in heaven and if god blesses us on earth then praise god but it’s the reward in heaven which carries more because anything we are given on earth, our promotions good luck and so on is only here on Earth but we can’t take it with us. Imagine all those kings, east and west, who spent so much for these lavish tombs to put all their belongings in, some included their wives and concubines, and then they get to heaven or hell and find out it’s just them and nothing else? That is what Jesus was getting at and what I mean by that ideal. It’s that understanding that everything on Earth we cannot take with us our rewards in heaven are there waiting for us.
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@davidkavanagh9551 that is the most retarded statement I have ever heard. First of all it is established by neural science that the soul is self evident due to the fact something is converting thought into neural activity and vice versa. Did I hear that from a pro creationist? No it was a psychology 101 textbook. If that much is established then your consciousness is energy which doesn’t turn into fertilizer in fact doesn’t die at all so your consciousness goes wherever energy goes. 2nd of all your statement about humans coming back is mere speculation you have no idea what a returning human would actually say but if one did return you would be shocked at what he would say. That doesn’t come from the Bible it came from Socrates when asked why he wasn’t afraid of dying. So do yourself a favor and the next time you have a thought just let it go. And science as you know it was developed by the church in order to learn how god made the heavens.
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@davidkavanagh9551 well now I know for a fact your history is fraudulent. To understand what was going on in the Italian courts, the church included, requires an understanding of Machiavelli. Why? Because at the time everyone ruled based on the methods he describes and to Machiavelli it is better to be feared than loved that is a rule of all courts and a warning to anyone having any dealings with the court scientists included. How do we know this to be a fact because Galileo’s contemporary, Capernicus, received the exact opposite treatment he was elevated to the court philosopher under the Medicis. How did he accomplish this feet in a time where if what you say is accurate then he should have met the same fate? Simple he presented his findings in a manner thag honored the Medicis sense Jupiter was the sigil of the Medicis which gave Capernicus a window to present his findings. So he elevated the entire court to the heavens giving his findings credibility without giving offense. Galileo however didn’t follow Capernicus’s example and ignored Machiavelli’s warning by presenting his findings as a dialogue between church leadership and scholars with the church leadership being the losers. In short Galileo may have been a Brilliant scientist but when it came the court he was an absolute moron and paid the price for his stupidity. Truth is always in the details and if you truly understood that period of Italian history you would have realized the story of Galileo leaves a lot of historical facts out. Facts which if you had known you would have seen right through the claim as being fraudulent. You don’t have to take my word for it look up Machiavelli and Capernicus as a court philosopher and see for yourself. And appealing to outrage is always a fallacy what I just described is an example of why. Anyone can be outraged or generate outrage about anything it doesn’t disprove it as truth. Real history geeks know this for a fact because history is full of examples of events like this one where you have to literally dissect the event in question to see it wasn’t as black and white as is popularly believed.
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@davidkavanagh9551 how so and based on what? I can easily say that same thing about anything. The difference is I find it pointless to lash out when facts, even historical facts, prove inconvenient. Instead I find keeping everything in it’s proper perspective produces better results.
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