Comments by "" (@asgaiyawaya3973) on "Hong Kong: Violence and Vandalism Sweep City" video.

  1. See what I mean when I say the damage is already done because Beijing had to make this about nationalism and solidarity when all they needed to do was let Carrie Lam withdraw the bill? Now China has to deal with a Mogadishu type incident that may or may not spill over into the mainland and make things. Nice job Xi now for your next trick why don't have a major nuclear accident like Chernobyl and get it over with. How you guys handled this situation might as well be the same thing.
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  2.  @陆莹-e4m  ask me if I seriously care about anything in the west. Go ahead and ask me bet you I will surprise you with my answer. I could care less about western media all of what I know about China comes from 1) my personal experience in Asia which I have 8 years worth and 2) I actually studied not only the history of china but CCP'S precursor movement called the Anarchist movement. I could care less what CNN or anybody else says I am only interested in first hand accounts from folks who actually live there everybody else China included can kiss my ass.
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  3.  @陆莹-e4m  I am still looking for a reason to care. At the present moment I still don't.
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  4.  @陆莹-e4m  fair enough I guess you get butthurt when someone is right about your countrymen being slaves. For someone who claims to be logical you obviously aren't aware that there is such a thing as an ad hominem fallacy. Insulting someone doesn't make you right. According to the fallacy you just used you might as well have simply admitted that you agree with me. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem
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  5.  @陆莹-e4m  ok I will give you a chance since an ad hominem only applies if one is not pointing out an inherent truth and only, in a sense, telling someone to essentially shut up and go away then describe any time Chinese or western media has ever been truthful? As to the slave accusation say what Hong Kongers should do without making it sound like they must obey their masters, in this case the CCP. I am giving you a fair chance to validate if I really did use an ad hominem or if I stated a truth. https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/1/Ad-Hominem-Abusive
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  6.  @陆莹-e4m  whether you did or not is irrelevant if you are using an ad hominem attack and your language is neither relevant to the topic nor is it in anyway truthful then essentially that is what you are doing. If that is not your intention then save your " you must be listening to ..... whoever " speech for someone wanting to talk about western and non western media. I am not interested in what you think is propaganda nor am I interested in what you think I listen to. I am only interested in Hong Kong and that's it end of list. I blame the CCP because the bill should have been withdrawn weeks ago when it was blatantly obvious that hongkongers were not going to let Beijing have it's way no matter what. Now because they decided to try to use intimidation, bullying, and where I come from is called street thug tactics ( hiring tongs to do their dirty work for instance) they turned a very simple problem into a quagmire. That's not even good politics that's a joke with a punchline already in it. 2) Good because if you are offended by it then you will do something about it. If you do something then other people will listen and see that something is definitely wrong with China in which case other Chinese will see that they are slaves and may respond. So you being offended I think is a good thing not a bad thing. It's progress. 4) the riots are lasting for months because of the 1 country 2 systems agreement. Essentially what it is is that before UK decided to hand over Hongkong to China now at the time if China had sent in the troops yeah there could have been resistance but it wouldn't have created problems later. Keep in mind this was before social media which is beyond the CCP'S control. In fact, they probably weren't thinking at the time that 30 years later this was going to create complications when it came to policies like the extradition bill. Jump 30 years later to post internet and social media Hong Kong not only enjoyed western democratic freedoms but also open internet and open social media platforms. Making control over Hongkong people that much harder to govern under Communist control. To make a long story short you have long rioting because the negotiators with the UK and the CCP 30 years ago were morons who weren't thinking that far ahead. In fact the interactions now between Hong kong people and police plus the mainlanders, plus overseas Chinese and hongkongers overseas are proof positive that the CCP is engaged in state slavery. Tiananmen square is in fact proof of this because if this were not true then that whole incident would not have been handled by sending in the Army. Why would the Army or even intimidation by the Army even be needed if Chinese citizens were truly free? In fact even George Orwell in his book 1984 showed how this form of "keeping people in line" revealed a slave and master relationship due to the fact that the only thing that interests the people in power is power. Which also means anyone speaking against or holding a worldview that I anyway threatens that position of power has to be stamped out. It's like leaving a cult. Cult members don't want people leaving because it results in less control over it's members. That's why typically we often see scare tactics and even intimidation. Yes, I did compare the CCP to a cult. You gotta problem with it fine but keep in mind all your government is doing is reinforcing that belief not resolving it. And if you are offended by that then , as I said before, great then it's progress.
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  7.  @陆莹-e4m  Ever heard of a thing called a book? Or maybe a thing called the internet? Do you even know what a class on Chinese history is for? Yes I did do all three that's how I know about it. And your defense is actually a fallacy called a tu quo que fallacy https://www.fallacyfiles.org/tuquoque.html whether I was there or not has no bearing whatsoever on what happened and whether or not you believe a few people or a few hundred people died and whether or not you believe there is no proof equally has no bearing on truth. Why because regardless of what you think happened it is not for you to decide what happened and what didn't happened. 2) how stupid do I think chinese people are, you tell me? You seem to overlook the fact that recently chinese authorities go after anyone who shares a view the CCP doesn't approve of, Christianity, prodemocracy, anti CCP criticism and so on is very Orwellian because regardless of how far ahead you think China is Orwell still predicted it and even refers to it as thought crime. I even know for a fact this does happen because many Chinese refugees openly speak about it. Then there is the facial recognition technology which is also in 1984. I can go on? Even the use of propaganda, such as getting their own people to hate Japanese and Americans, through the use of state approved information, is very 1984. I can go on. How did Orwell know this because during the Spanish Civil War he fought with the socialists. Which put him in a position to properly study socialism and communism and conclude it's end result. Oh really, you are aware that pulling the race card over a fact is a fallacy called an appeal to ignorance right? https://www.fallacyfiles.org/igno especially considering the fact that racism is a belief that ones own race, not nationality, is superior to another which is never mentioned. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism if what you say was true then i suppose you must be racist for trying to say no one was killed at Tiananmen square. Note how arbitrary that statement is even though you didn't once mention race. You got any more rather ignorant statements or are you done speaking out of your ass just because you don't like being on the defensive? 4) I honestly don't give a crap what government Chinese people choose. They could choose a wacky system of government where circus animals decide policy as long as it is their choice it came from their own conclusions that is what I mean by progress. Their choice not Xi's not the CCP's, not Trump, not even the entire western hemisphere, their choice. And if you are offended by that notion then you must be racist for thinking that the Chinese people are not smart enough to decide for themselves.
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  8. More like the end result of communist stupidity. And before you make your answer one question first could this or could this not have been avoided if Beijing let Carrie Lam simply withdraw the extradition bill? If the answer is yes then the trouble in Hong Kong is what you get for being dumb. If the answer is no then you are incredibly dumb for thinking you can push people around and not expect them to say enough is enough.
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  9. We shall see
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  10. Remember how quickly a simple bread riot turned into a revolution when police and soldiers thought it was a good idea to shoot into the rioters? That was the October revolution of 1917 by the way. Yeah keep those dumb ideas coming protesters will be thanking you in due time.
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