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Comments by "patriot enfield" (@patriotenfield3276) on "India's FAL: The 1A1 Inch/Metric Hybrid" video.
If you are that interested in Indian military history ( particularly the one post Independence ) , Just look at the case of FV433 Abbot bought by Indian army & how they stripped the Abbot of it's most important user friendly components just so that they could buy it cheap . The article is there in Tanks Encyclopedia
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@rajbiswas9077 L1A1 itself is a licensed variant of Belgian FN FAL , SO technically we copied the copywork
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Also that was the 50s & 60s & the time when India still hasn't gotten rid of old economic practices & was borderline socialist ( & heck poor as well )
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@workingguy-OU812 depends . because people here misuse things more than they put on for intended use . also it's a taboo from the past to not give weapons to civilians . That is changing slowly in J&K , Himachal , Punjab & Manipur tho
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@wytfish4855 Irony because when anglos are on the receiving end of racism , they cry about it but when not they tell us to keep quiet about this
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@Zfickoff Relax bruv . Also I am thinking if we can fund Ian's Trip to India during DEFEXPO ( my country's largest Arms exhibition + Presentation , something like Shotshow but much much Bigger )
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1 & 1A for sure ( ones with Orange Handguards ) Not the 1B , 1B1 & Excalibur ( one with Black polymer handguards & folding stocks ) Also 1C is the latest version that has the milled receiver instead of stamped sheet receiver
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Also Indian OFB did copy the AK ( search for Ghatak & Trichy assault rifle ) , but it is too late move ( should have done in the 60s or 70s itself , heck even in the 80s ) ?
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The problem arise not with performance but with the change in the type of warfare Indian army faced . They went from a Conventional style fighting doctrine of the 50s-60s-70s to facing a more Asymetrix , unhinged & unpredictable warfare against proxies , terrorists , separatists & even special forces who were armed with fully automatic / select fire intermediate cartridges ( AK-47 / type-56 in particular ) & were heavily located in either cities or thick jungles . The 1A1 SLR proved too much of an overkill with heavy recoil & bulky stature ( large barrel & non folding buttstock ) while the STENs & Sterlings 9 X 19 mm proved inadequate against the AK-47s & M-16s used by Enemies , both in Range & penetration + devastation effect
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@rajbiswas9077 Indian SLR also has very minimal performance related issues . only problem was the user friendly issue because since 80s , Indian army has been facing asymmetrical warfare that involves Urban & Jungle CQC + CQB & intermediate cartridge select fire carbines / assault rifles ( The FAL wasn't suitable for this & OFB Babus were not innovative enough to make a PARA FAL version with short barrel & folding stock )
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@juleshales8881 INSAS LMG & Bren Both are getting replaced by NEGEV NG5 & NG7 ( NG-5 in 5.56 x 45mm & NG-7 in 7.62 x 51mm ) . Also OFB this time came up with an indigenious MAG-58 inspired GPMG chambered in 7.62 x 51mm & slightly lighter than the MAG-58 ( because of Lighter alloy )
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@Drownedinblood They want to be like China but can't pull heists like China . IDK Why ?
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@sarath431 FN CAl got nothing to do with this , but FN FNC does , since INSAS would borrow the Handguard design from the FNC . But INSAS is the primary blend between AK & HK
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@sarath431 HK G3 or more closely related , HK 33 . INSAS is the Hybrid of an AK Styled Rifle ( from both AK & Galil ) & H&K HK33
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@sarath431 H&K HK33
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@mattc8018 GET RID OF THAT THING & GET A MACBOOK
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@bennythargrave He can come to DEFEXPO if he want to review one
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@georgewhitworth9742 YES
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@georgewhitworth9742 Except I give kudos to CETME L for Adopting the STANAG instead of OFB stupidly going after Plastic magazines
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Not just the furniture . Just change the bolt with a PARA-FAL bolt , give it a foldable buttstock , shorten the barrel & add some new optics
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