Comments by "Gar Sm" (@garsm2290) on "Seven Labour MPs resign from party over Corbyn’s leadership" video.

  1. What's wrong with social justice?
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  2. Corbynism is dead. They'll never win.
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  3. Are they Blairites? What does that even mean?
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  4. Burgon seems to regret their leaving. But the Momentum heavies are dancing with joy.
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  5. Yeah, right. And John McDonnell and Jezza aren't self serving!!
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  6. Especially Nigel Farage and Batten.
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  7. Corbyn and McDonnell can't maintain the Labour party as a broad coalition, which when successful it always has been.
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  8. Labour can't deliver the manifesto.
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  9. @MGBricks People vote for a variety of reasons and most don't read manifestoes. If Corbyn's top people Milne and Murray ran as Communists or on their record of trips to North Korea, would they get elected?
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  10.  gx240  Of course the vote to leave the European Union should not be ignored. Neither should it be treated as a mandate for a hard Brexit that seriously threatens the economy. Nor as a mandate for a deregulated Britain on the lines favoured by the Tory right wing.
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  11. Corbyn and McDonnell are hard left.
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  12.  @Lennon6412  Of course they are social democrats. Momentum has been trying to deselect them, so they've gone.
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  13.  @Lennon6412  Berger has long worked hard on food poverty and employers dodging health and safety responsiblities. She once worked for the NHS Confereration. I don't agree with her views on Israel but the Labour party, as a coalition, has always included people of different views on this and other matters. Some of the people closest to Corbyn - like Seamus Milne and Andrew Murray - were until recently, and may well still be, Communists. Murray has defended not just the Soviet Union but North Korea. That isn't social democracy.
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  14.  @Lennon6412  Corbyn and McDonnell have been part of the hard left for decades, allying themselves with the likes of Ted Knight or Communists like Murray. Corbyn regularly voted against the Labour whip and now demands such loyalty that anyone who stands out will be threatened by deselection. The culture of intolerance goes back decades too. I see another MP has now left the party, making it eight. No doubt there will be more, especially if Corbyn continues to vascilate over Brexit rather than offering any leadership.
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  15.  @Lennon6412  Corbyn appointed Murray, Milne and McDonnell. He's stood by as Momentum has targeted a raft of sitting Labour MPs. The bulk of Labour members support a people's vote on Europe. It's all very well having plans to spend more money on public services, but with a hard Brexit - which is the direction we're heading in - the economy isn't going to generate the necessary resources. Sometimes leadeship is needed, and that involves taking hard decisions rather than basking in the glory of a general election that was after all lost. Looks like more MPs are leaving.
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  16.  @Lennon6412  I see Momentum has denounced the MPs as "Blairites" who want "tax cuts for the super rich". Mike Gapes? Labour has room (at the top) for North Korea supporter Andrew Murray but not Mike Gapes.
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  17.  @Lennon6412  Yes, they chose to leave. If you look at the insults and bad-mouthing they are being subject to, I'm not surprised. Supporting North Korea is okay but being a "Blairite" is unforgivable.
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  18.  @Lennon6412  And it isn't just comments on North Korea. He's also a supporter of the Soviet Union's treatment of ethnic groups and nationalities!! Social demicracy??
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  19.  @Lennon6412  Corbyn chose Murray to be a senior figure. He is important. The word 'Blairite' is just being used as an insult. Corbyn, Murray and Momentum don't have the right to decide who should and who should not be deemed a socialist or a social democrat. They are leading Labour to disaster.
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  20.  @Lennon6412  Can I remind you we are talking about North Korea. Corbyn appointed to a senior position someone who supports North Korea. That to me, and many others, is a serious matter. If Corbyn were ever prime minister, what post would a supporter of North Korea get then? This is not the democratic socialism of Hardie, Atlee or Wilson.
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  21.  @Lennon6412  Hardie, Atlee or Wilson would not have appointed to a senior position a supporter of a murderous, dicatatorial regime like the one in North Korea. What does this say about Corbyn?
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  22.  @Lennon6412  I can't see the Labour Party suceeded unless it is a broad coalition. The old hard left idea of taking over bigger and bigger caucuses, deselecting MPs etc, will just lead to decline. I read George Galloway is now back. Even Derek Hatton tried it!
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  23.  @Lennon6412  The new members are overwhlemingly middle-class, which is a significant problem. Corbyn has a long, long record of voting against the whip.
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  24.  @Lennon6412  Labour's new members are overwhelmingly middle or upper class. And of course the "working class" has shrunk in size. Ukip have never won any seats in parliament.
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  25.  @Lennon6412  If the working class is most of the population and they were alienated by New Labour, how come Blair won all those elections. Come to think of it, why has Ukip never won a single seat? Maybe Britain isn't quite what globalist social media videos make out?
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  26.  @Lennon6412  You're right, sorry. Ukip did win a seat in 2015 - but wasn't that, and the by-election wins - where a sitting Tory MP defected? Results might well be different under a different voting system but there doesn't seem any public appetite for change. I was using the term working class in a loose social sense. Not very scientific I know. The clearest analysis of the last election I saw was from YouGov.
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  27. It's a mainstream media plot. Just read Jezza on Facebook and all will be well.
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  28. Corbyn is toast.
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  29. Corbyn is keeping May in office.
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  30. Sure does. Is there evidence it's an issue?
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  31.  @peteratkin3788  What is 'Blairism'?
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  32. The Labour Party has to move back towards social democracy and away from the clique around Corbyn.
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  33.  @TheSpiritOfTheTimes  Milne and Murray are both life-long Communists!
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  34. Burgon admitted there was unacceptable behaviour. Listen to Tom Watson.
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