Comments by "Jack Spring" (@jackspring7709) on "What untruths is Russia spreading about Nazis in Ukraine? - BBC News" video.

  1.  @Chosenite  Exactly.
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  2. I've been following the Ukraine conflict since 2014 and the bbc are one of the biggest sets of liars regarding Ukraine. If I can summarise what is actually happening in Ukraine, the Ukraine govt has been attacking East Ukraine (which is mainly ethnic Russian) for 8 years now: in 2014 it led to a war in East Ukraine: a peace agreement was signed (Minsk) but the Ukraine military kept attacking the region despite numerous diplomatic efforts by the Russians. Putin warned publicly on many occasions that the attacks need to stop and and that Minsk needs to be honoured. His words fell on deaf ears. Last month 60,000 Ukraine troops amassed on the border and began intense shelling of East Ukraine - East Ukraine and Russia had finally had enough and began a pushback. To learn more about the nazis in Ukraine's govt and military look into the Azov battalion, C-14 and the Right Sector. We are being lied to wholesale by the usual politicians and media.
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  3. True. In fact the BBC itself did a number of pieces about these nazis within the Ukraine army and government years ago but they now seem to have changed their mind.
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  4. True. I've been following the Ukraine conflict since 2014 and the bbc are one of the biggest sets of liars regarding Ukraine. If I can summarise what is actually happening in Ukraine, the Ukraine govt has been attacking East Ukraine (which is mainly ethnic Russian) for 8 years now: in 2014 it led to a war in East Ukraine: a peace agreement was signed (Minsk) but the Ukraine military kept attacking the region despite numerous diplomatic efforts by the Russians. Putin warned publicly on many occasions that the attacks need to stop and and that Minsk needs to be honoured. His words fell on deaf ears. Last month 60,000 Ukraine troops amassed on the border and began intense shelling of East Ukraine - East Ukraine and Russia had finally had enough and began a pushback. To learn more about the nazis in Ukraine's govt and military look into the Azov battalion, C-14 and the Right Sector. We are being lied to wholesale by the usual politicians and media.
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  5. They are nazis. The refer to themselves as nazis. I've been following the Ukraine conflict since 2014 and the bbc are one of the biggest sets of liars regarding Ukraine. If I can summarise what is actually happening in Ukraine, the Ukraine govt has been attacking East Ukraine (which is mainly ethnic Russian) for 8 years now: in 2014 it led to a war in East Ukraine: a peace agreement was signed (Minsk) but the Ukraine military kept attacking the region despite numerous diplomatic efforts by the Russians. Putin warned publicly on many occasions that the attacks need to stop and and that Minsk needs to be honoured. His words fell on deaf ears. Last month 60,000 Ukraine troops amassed on the border and began intense shelling of East Ukraine - East Ukraine and Russia had finally had enough and began a pushback. To learn more about the nazis in Ukraine's govt and military look into the Azov battalion, C-14 and the Right Sector. We are being lied to wholesale by the usual politicians and media.
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  6. Exactly. The BBC was one of them. I guess they have changed their mind.
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  7. Finally - someone else who remembers the BBC running reports on these nazis, and calling them nazis, years ago.
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  8. Exactly.
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  9. I've been following the Ukraine conflict since 2014 and the bbc are one of the biggest sets of liars regarding Ukraine. If I can summarise what is actually happening in Ukraine, the Ukraine govt has been attacking East Ukraine (which is mainly ethnic Russian) for 8 years now: in 2014 it led to a war in East Ukraine: a peace agreement was signed (Minsk) but the Ukraine military kept attacking the region despite numerous diplomatic efforts by the Russians. Putin warned publicly on many occasions that the attacks need to stop and and that Minsk needs to be honoured. His words fell on deaf ears. Last month 60,000 Ukraine troops amassed on the border and began intense shelling of East Ukraine - East Ukraine and Russia had finally had enough and began a pushback. To learn more about the nazis in Ukraine's govt and military look into the Azov battalion, C-14 and the Right Sector. We are being lied to wholesale by the usual politicians and media.
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  10. I've been following the Ukraine conflict since 2014 and the bbc are one of the biggest sets of liars regarding Ukraine. If I can summarise what is actually happening in Ukraine, the Ukraine govt has been attacking East Ukraine (which is mainly ethnic Russian) for 8 years now: in 2014 it led to a war in East Ukraine: a peace agreement was signed (Minsk) but the Ukraine military kept attacking the region despite numerous diplomatic efforts by the Russians. Putin warned publicly on many occasions that the attacks need to stop and and that Minsk needs to be honoured. His words fell on deaf ears. Last month 60,000 Ukraine troops amassed on the border and began intense shelling of East Ukraine - East Ukraine and Russia had finally had enough and began a pushback. To learn more about the nazis in Ukraine's govt and military look into the Azov battalion, C-14 and the Right Sector. We are being lied to wholesale by the usual politicians and media.
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  11. All the BBC has to do is go back a few years to its own reports about the Ukraine army anf government. The BBC has reported that there are n*z* battalions within the army and a heavy presence within the government.
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  12. TBH The bbc ran reports years ago about nazi battalions within the Ukraine military and nazis in Ukraine's government. Now suddenly they have changed their mind. I've been following the Ukraine conflict since 2014 and the bbc are one of the biggest sets of liars regarding Ukraine. If I can summarise what is actually happening in Ukraine, the Ukraine govt has been attacking East Ukraine (which is mainly ethnic Russian) for 8 years now: in 2014 it led to a war in East Ukraine: a peace agreement was signed (Minsk) but the Ukraine military kept attacking the region despite numerous diplomatic efforts by the Russians. Putin warned publicly on many occasions that the attacks need to stop and and that Minsk needs to be honoured. His words fell on deaf ears. Last month 60,000 Ukraine troops amassed on the border and began intense shelling of East Ukraine - East Ukraine and Russia had finally had enough and began a pushback. To learn more about the nazis in Ukraine's govt and military look into the Azov battalion, C-14 and the Right Sector. We are being lied to wholesale by the usual politicians and media.
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  13. Exactly.
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  14. The BBC has reported in the past about nazi battalions within the Ukraine army, and those reports are still on youtube. My advice to anyone is to do their own research but the BBC has reported on them before. I'd strongly urge you to look into the Azov battalion, C-14 and the Right Sector - the information is there and from many unbiased sources.
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  15.  @oil_can  The Ukraine military and government is saturated with nazi and neo nazi personnel. The Azov Battalion, C 14, the Right Sector to name just a few. Ukraine forces have been attacking mainly ethnic Russian East Ukraine for 8 years despite numerous diplomatic attempts to stop this. 4 weeks ago Ukraine forces amassed along the border and began intense shelling of East Ukraine. That's what led to this current conflict, whether you want to believe it or not. Those are the facts and all a matter of public record. It's fascinating seeing so many nazi apologists in the world today.
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  16.  @oil_can  60,000 Ukraine forces amassing on the Donbas border - followed by intense shelling of Donbass: it was clear they were getting ready to overrun the region - Donetsk and Luhansk asked Russia to recognise them as independent nations and then invited Russia in to help stop the invasion that was just about to happen. That's what happened: you may also want to look into the numerous diplomatic efforts that the Russians made to stop the constant attacks on Donbass by Ukraine forces in the last 8 years, each effort was ignored or laughed at. The shelling began and Donbass and Russia finally had enough.
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  17.  @oil_can  The Russian government didn't declare them independent: it declared that it recognised them: they asked to be recognised when the Ukraine army began shelling them and 60,000 troops amassed along the border - they knew what was coming and asked for Russia's help. Donbas was actually added to Ukraine by Stalin, I believe - before this it was Russian, that's why it's people are mostly ethnic Russian - but tbh it seems the Ukraine govt agrees given the attacks that have been mounted on Donbass by them for 8 years now. I've not followed any propaganda: I've simply been following this conflict since 2014 and if Russia had been the aggressor I would have said so and would have had no problem saying so. If I followed propaganda I would be agreeing with 99.9% of our press and agreeing with you. Don't forget our press told us Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction: a million dead later and they all admitted he didn't: that's the last time I believed them: and here they are again using the exact same template with Ukraine. But if you believe them that's your affair - so we can agree to disagree on that.
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  18.  @oil_can  I never said they "came up with it" but they ran with it 24/7 knowing it was a lie. And don't even waste my time saying they were merely "reporting" what Bush was saying. They're journalists, aren't they?! They're supposed to investigate things, not act as a mouthpiece for him or his blasted press office. They are steeped in just as much blood as he is.
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  19.  @oil_can  Not true. They were given full access. Try this: Scott Ritter, one of the chief weapons inspectors, said there were no weapons of mass destruction. He wasn't the only one, either. Remember Dr. David Kelly, the other inspector who was thrown under the bus by the Blair government for making the same assertion? Both were given access to all Iraq's sites. No. Okay. Well, the press didn't run what Scott Riter was saying, in fact he was demonised by them - they had plenty of evidence to run with but they chose not to. What are they for anyway? So I wouldn't go saying others are arguing in circles if I were you. Lol journalists having no choice but to repeat what the government is telling them.
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  20.  @oil_can  Sure thing, Oil. Anyway - let's just agree to disagree and wish each other a good day.
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  21.  @oil_can  Thank you. You're more than welcome. All the best.
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