Comments by "Jack Spring" (@jackspring7709) on "The Independent" channel.

  1. Of course if the authorities had been doing their jobs in the first place (its illegal to block roads) instead of selectively enforcing the law, none of these confrontations would have happened. Two lives wouldn't have ended and their families' lives destroyed. This was disaster waiting to happen - which, of course, is probably what the authorities wanted.
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  2. Ladies and gentlemen: let's take this moment to offer our condolences to all mainstream media outlets who did everything they could to make sure that this lockdown would last forever. Their persistence should be remembered by all of us.
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  3. I remember when the Independent was a genuine newspaper deserving of the title: I used to buy it. Seeing what its become is a real shame.
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  4. I really miss the days when I could trust the veracity of a claim made by our media. I doubly miss the days when I wouldn't wonder if he had annoyed his colleagues in Westminster and that this was their reply.
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  5. I remember the days when the Independent really did earn its name. I used to buy it then.
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  6. Apparently E-bikes and E-Cars are almost impossible to put out when they catch fire.....I wonder how much pollution that causes.
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  7. The protest was supposed to be in Stephen's Green (the large park nearby) but the police closed down access to the Green and prevented anyone from entering. They attempted to shut down a peaceful protest in a large green.
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  8. Once upon a time the Independent was a paper of quality that always questioned the narrative of the political class.
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  9. I see these types walking around with bull terriers all the time that they are barely able to control.
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  10. I believe him. When have politicians, especially this generation, ever lied to us?
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  11. This is more in keeping with the calibre of journalism I used to expect and respect from the Independent. I'm hoping to see more of this: after all this is just the tip of the iceberg as far as that ideology in Ukraine is concerned.
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  12. It is NOT a ban! The Supreme Court has simply ruled that from now on states make their own decisions about abortion.
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  13. Yeah. I remember Julian Assange being hit with exactly the same accusations because the state didn't like his journalism work. Recently this MP spoke out against war crimes being perpetrated against the Palestinians. Amazing coincidence.
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  14. The last 2 years (govt reaction to covid, followed by the economic war this govt waged over Ukraine) has caused this mess: Liz truss is only one of the people to be blamed. Last May Russia and Ukraine were ready to negotiate a settlement when boris suddenly flew over there and warned Zelensky not to agree to ANY peace deal - then handed Zelenksy 40bn (edit: sorry 35million - it was US Congress gave them 40bn) while families over here suffered.
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  15. I remember the days when The Independent was worthy of that name.
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  16. Living in a free country, that our grandparents sacrificed everything for - we can do what we want. And what a shame it is to see a newspaper I once respected slide into the gutter and act like nothing more than a messenger for the state.
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  17. Exactly. No control whatsoever. I see a lot of these people going around in London with bull terriers and they do keep them as intimidation pets and they have no control over them.
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  18. I remember the days when the Independent was a credit to its name and a credit to journalism: always objective and careful in its reporting: now reduced to nothing more than a lying gossip rag.
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  19. LOL! Your comment made me laugh out loud. Excellent point.
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  20. Nice little club to be in.
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  21. Yep - and all over a virus that has a 99.7% recovery: the media has played a massive part in this insanity.
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  22. The're not bots: they're pointing out the hypocrisy of our press - and they're right.
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  23. A politician resigning over a seriously negligent decision that damaged innocent victims. I haven't seen that in a long time - but there again I live in the UK.
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  24.  @trevorio2023  Lol I think his comment sailed over your head somewhat: these screeching SJW harpies who are wailing about a woman's right to choose are the very same ones who were saying a woman can't be defined: he was rightfully pointing out their confusion - and you've just pointed out your's.
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  25. So there is going to be peace and this has caused a "crisis" for our leaders. Let that sink in.
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  26. Selected.
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  27. My mother died under exactly the same circumstances but the difference is I knew, even back then, that the political class was partying it up and breaking all the rules themselves and I'm frankly amazed that anyone, let alone most of the country, actually believed they were following the rules themselves.
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  28. Exactly: and being a lawyer, he understands the power of individual words and language: he was deliberately downplaying the murder of those children. Also - the two thugs who attacked police in Manchester airport and broke one WPC's nose haven't even been charged. Two Tier Kier is a remarkably accurate tag.
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  29. Exactly. In fact he spoke recently about the British government endorsing war crimes that are being perpetrated against the Palestinians.
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  30.  @brandons5426  Covid-19 has a recovery rate of 99.7% - and you already know that politicians are liars but you choose to believe them and their friends on this anyway.
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  31. My mother was one of those who died in isolation in a nursing home. Up till that point no visitors except by special appointment - only one family member per week for 15 minutes. When she passed we were only allowed to spend 5 minutes with her body, one family member at a time whilst the others had to wait their turn in the car park. All the while that lot were partying it up and laughing at us.
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  32. Oh no! Now its global freezing! We haven't had snow like this....since the last time we had snow like this.
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  33. Lol, good one!
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  34. You probably won't feel anything at all after a while.
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  35. I remember the Independent was once the only news source that didn't join in with the mob: I even remember the Independent standing almost alone against the WMD claims. How things have changed. I used to buy your publication when you were a newspaper.
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  36. There is a documentary on youtube called Ukraine On Fire: it tells the real story of what's been happening there. Also - you may want to look into Navalny's background. Its quite an eye opener.
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  37.  @andyharvestedwards I'm afraid its you who is a little short on intelligence. I'm not a tory: I despise the tory government just as much as I despise labour and the lib dems. But you may want to expand your attention span to when Julian Assange was accused of exactly the same thing because of the footage of war crimes he released re: Iraq. Crispin Blunt accused the (tory) government this week of endorsing war crimes in Gaza: within days this accusation was levelled at him. Learn to think instead attempting to insult people who are brighter than you are.
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  38. Many elderly people died desolate and alone, banned from seeing their loved ones in their final hours because of measures that HE put in place: families have been torn apart and their lives turned upside down, businesses destroyed - while he himself broke every single one of the rules that he has been destroying this country with.
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  39.  @malahammer  Now, now Paul - calm down and don't get into such a - lol - furey. But puns aside - Scientists and doctors have been speaking out against these lockdowns and measures, but you have chosen to believe a bunch of career politicians, their friends and MSM instead. Believing politicians and their friends isn't really a very sane thing to do, for someone who likes to use the word 'insanity' without a hint of irony.
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  40. The emperors with no clothes mock the man with no shirt in a picture. I know who I'm laughing at and it's not Putin.
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  41. That clown can shove his restrictions up his *rse - if there's any room left up there for another object.
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  42. Article 6 of UNESCO's Bioethics and Human Rights Act states that it is against International Law to force or coerce anyone into taking a vaccine against their will. If they try it they are open to serious court action and law suits. They'll be stopped. The main thing is people need to start familiarising themselves with their rights and I'm dismayed that the alternative media isn't doing this.
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  43. A bully accuses a bully of being a bully.
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  44. Well, the biggest public advocate of the vaccine in Ireland, Dr Luke O'Neill, has refused to take it himself: so I think you may need to stop banging your own head and wonder why that would be.
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  45. He and labour are finished. The tories are gone, now labour needs to go, too. Independent parties and candidates all the way from here.
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  46. And the biggest public advocate for the vaccine (Dr Luke O'Neill) has actually refused to take it himself and not one Irish main stream media journalist has called him out on it.
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  47. Go and see family: these politicians will not be following the rules anyway. Enough of this nonsense.
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  48.  @AmB-mo5wl  Don't be such a coward - the government doesn't have the means to enforce it, and I guarantee you they won't be following any of the rules themselves. You can close the door on your own cell if you want, the rest of us won't be. PS police will all be at home with family and friends anyway - but good luck to you in your self imposed prison.
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  49. They kept their heads down and their moths shut because they are selfish cowards.
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  50. Yes. We can. We're going back to normal and there's nothing they can do about it. All the covid fines have been thrown out by the courts and even UNESCO's bioethics and human rights act states that it's illegal to try to coerce anyone into taking a vaccine against their will.
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  51.  @BB-qp9ri  I don't even want to think about those poor schmoos :/
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  52.  @jgdooley2003  The open air muzzle wearers are a source of daily amazement to me: I see them in Dublin all there time: it's a few months since I've been in London so it'll be interesting to see how many sheep are over there these days.
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  53.  @fastertrackcreative  Rubbish. If the immune system does nothing against a virus it doesn't recognise, the human race wouldn't exist, you world class plonker.
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  54. Poor Joe. These protestors realise that the government has little to no intention of lifting this lockdown, Covid or no Covid. That's the nature of politicians. They understand it - you don't: unfortunately affluence and freedom has produced a generation of bloated and neutered house pets just like you who really don't understand how politicians behave when they start getting a taste for control. You'll find out.
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  55. Anyone would do that.
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  56. Lol, the government was already talking about extending it to 2022 even without protests and with people all over the country complying, you poor fool.
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  57. Honour and courage. He's a coward. Firstly he was laughing at the joke. Then he saw his wife didn't think it was funny, so he made a calculation that he could criminally assault a man who is smaller and thinner than him and probably get away with it. The only people I've ever seen behave like that have all been cowards. Honour and courage lol.
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  58. @M Nobody said anything about gates trying to mind control people with jabs - don't know where you got that from.
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  59. Yes he did, as did Piers Morgan who was ranting against anyone who broke the rules before holidaying in Antigua himself. And fact Neil Ferguson, the scientist who advised the govt to lockdown, broke his own rules so he could sh*g another man's wife.
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  60. Yeah. Something very peculiar about all this. After what they did to Julian Assange I'm not going to take their word for whatever their claims are about this guy. He was in the army, he was a computer technician. Maybe he was just a whistleblower with a lot to tell. Again - look what they did to Assange. Also - did they ever even say what 'terrorism' he was involved in? I don't believe a word of any of this and they've already proven they will throw anyone in a hole for no reason.
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  61.  @jedde-wiltonholmes3549  Exactly. I doubt if the low life even had covid in the first place. Worst pm this country has ever had.
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  62. The Independent has fallen far since the days when it was an actual newspaper: I used to buy it back then. The story is fake, by the way: it was put out in order to cause a reaction.
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  63. The Independent: I remember the days when you actually earned that name - one of the only papers that rejected the Iraq WMD lie: back then you would have questioned this entire narrative. It's a real shame.
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  64. Because the Independent Newspaper is another compromised lying rag. It wasn't always like that: in fact I used to buy that newspaper regularly because it was independent. Not any more.
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  65. A lawsuit has been filed recently against the four of them with (apparently) evidence that they stood to gain personally from the mass vaccine rollout. Michael O'Bernicia has submitted the lawsuit.
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  66. Agitators - even after their party won they're still mouthing off. Reform must have really rattled the Westminster Uniparty.
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  67. Bye bye - you'll be missed....by your own types and no-one else. You only have yourselves to blame: now we have to deal with starmer and his gang.
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  68. Hancock, Valance, Whitty and Ferguson had a law suit filed against them during the summer by a man named Michael O Bernicia with evidence they all stood to gain personally from a mass vaccine roll out. Hancock and Ferguson also broke all of their own rules so they could sleep with other men's wives. On top of that you may want to do some research on the side effects experienced by those being "vaccinated". We are not anti-vaxx - we have a great deal of skepticism about this particular one, and if the facts above don't present you with some healthy skepticism, nothing ever will. Final note - politicians and their corporate fiends (this time in big pharma) are probably not the best people to believe but go ahead and roll your sleeves up, I certainly won't try to talk you out of it.
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  69.  @Poliss95  Pointing out a typo is the best you can offer, is it? The quality of these shills and trolls isn't very high.
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  70. Lol, top comment. I'm sure there's a T-shirt or a poster in that slogan.
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  71. TBH I don't have much sympathy for them anymore: we tried to warn them, they chose not to listen and by rolling over they made things that bit more difficult for the rest of us.
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  72. Ed Millipede.
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  73.  @MagpieInGravesfield  You poor fool. Everyone complied with the first lockdown...and the second...and the third. People have finally realised that - shock, horror, politicians are lying. Covid 19 has a recovery rate of 99.7%: hospitals are empty and have been since last March: ask anyone who works in a hospital. If you want to believe everything politicians say go right ahead but I guarantee you those very same politicians will be spending Christmas with family and friend. But go right ahead and lock yourself up for christmas because some lying politicians told you to. Don't expect the rest of us to follow.
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  74. Not me - and hopefully no-one else.
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  75. The tune he's playing is called 'Boolavogue'.
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  76. Lol, you poor shmoo - the govt intends the lockdown to be permanent, Covid or no Covid: try to get that through your thick skull: these people know exactly what's going on - you don't, but some people are just stupid, I guess.
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  77. Unfortunately his father produced a useless tool that breaks everything instead of fixing anything. For that he should be in the Guinness Book of Records.
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  78.  @DGT73  Amazing debating skills: your ability to repeat one word that someone else put in your otherwise empty head is very impressive.
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  79. Exactly.
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  80.  @techheck3358  He was warning colleagues that he was going to go public way longer than 3 weeks ago. Anyway, let's wait and see what the courts say, or even if it's taken to court. Meanwhile I'll remain skeptical of the same politicians and media who told me Julian Assange rd two women, and that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. Two very big lies with very big consequences. Fool me once etc etc.
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  81. The only person I'm concerned about being ignored is Andrew Bridgen MP who gave a very important speech to Parliament some months back, and the entire lot of them cleared out of the chamber, including Diann Abbot.
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  82. From another source: A devastating incident has shaken the community of Southport, as a 17-year-old asylum seeker, Ali-Al-Shakati, was identified as the suspect in a horrifying attack that resulted in the death of two children and left several others injured.
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  83.  @thomascrowe314  Ugh. The amount of people still wearing their muzzles is surreal.
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  84.  @2DRonaldo  How do you know it's been through rigorous testing? And it's not anti-vaxx to be skeptical of politicians and their corporate lobbyists in big pharma, despite how easy it is to hide behind the words 'anti-vaxx'. I'm not anti-vaccine - but I am very skeptical of this one - and you should really be a bit more discerning about career politicians and big corporations.
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  85. True...but tbh so is Starmer and whoever is leading the LibDems right now. They're all the same - the last 2 years has proven that.
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  86. Remember Juilain Assange being hit with the same claims - all because of his journalism work. This Tory MP spoke up recently about war crimes being perpetrated against the people of Palestine. Amazing coincidence, same template.
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  87. Exactly. It turns out these covid rules are all unlawful. Hopefully this will be a massive lesson for the public.
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  88.  @lindarobinson8381  The gardai will want to be careful: the UK police started behaving like this 20 years ago and they are so roundly despised now they can no longer police effectively.
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  89. Don't worry: the law is on our side on this one: Article 6 of UNESCO's Bioethics and Human Rights Act states that it is against International Law to force or coerce anyone into taking a vaccine against their will. If they try it they are open to serious court action and law suits. They'll be stopped. The main thing is people need to start familiarising themselves with their rights and I'm dismayed that the alternative media isn't doing this.
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  90. I have been asking myself that question since April 2020. Even people whom I thought knew better rolled over for this. Maybe its TV - I know I switched mine off a long time ago.
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  91. Yep. Lets hope the rest of the country wakes up - and people need to start ditching those ridiculous face masks.
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  92. Only a quick little prick that she barely felt at all.
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  93. Dr Luke O'Neill is the biggest public advocate of the jab, but did you know that he has refused to take it himself? That makes me ask questions - and should make anyone ask questions. Covid-19 also has a recovery rate of 99.7%.
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  94. Yes, Al Gore predicted we'd all be under water - and then he went on to to buy a massive beach front property, which shows just how brave he really is to face this watery threat. Al Gore is also the hero who killed ManBearPig....twice!
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  95.  @leonhughes9014  Your opinion has destroyed his argument, has it lol?
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  96. What Farage said was the truth. Anyone who doubts it can do their own research and draw their own conclusions.
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  97.  @vampy5071  No. The documentary is Ukraine On Fire. It tells the real story of what's been going on there and how it began.
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  98. Yes - that's how these narcissists, sociopaths and clowns think of us.
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  99.  @blahblahcw  He isn't judging - he's just saying they should try the numerous contraception options available to all western women, or abstain altogether. If I told someone to put on their seatbelt before driving down a highway I'm not judging them.
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  100.  @nathanaelsmith3553  I won't miss the tory government if they are voted out - but you're in for another nasty surprise if you think labour is going to be any better. The last 3 years, Covid and Ukraine should have proven they are all in lockstep.
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  101. Labour 25. By the way: Remember Juilain Assange being hit with the same claims - all because of his journalism work. This Tory MP spoke up recently about war crimes being perpetrated against the people of Palestine. Amazing coincidence, same template.
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  102.  @DGT73  You should learn to think for yourself. I hope you're at least being paid to waste your life like this.
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  103. Those poor kids. Those poor families.🙏
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  104. True.
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  105. True: they are almost impossible to put out.
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  106.  @dylaanowen  I completely agree. This morning I woke up thinking I'd like to be a Ferrari - and darn it I'm going to be one by 12 midnight.
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  107. From another source: A devastating incident has shaken the community of Southport, as a 17-year-old asylum seeker, Ali-Al-Shakati, was identified as the suspect in a horrifying attack that resulted in the death of two children and left several others injured.
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  108. Yes.....and at the same time there will be no water left on the planet: all predicted by the very same "experts".
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  109. .......caused by the police.........as usual. I remember when the Independent was a newspaper worthy of its name.
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  110. True. He's no terrorist: they're giving him the Julian Assange treatment and probably for the same reason. I don't believe any of their claims about him.
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  111. I don't use facebook and I'm not interested in conspiracies just facts. Dr Luke O'Neill is the biggest public advocate of the jab, but he has actually refused to take it himself. That makes me ask questions - and should even make you ask questions. Covid-19 also has a recovery rate of 99.7%. Not conspiracy: facts - look into them for yourself - and stay off facebook, it's not good for you.
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  112. Exactly: and there was a time when the Independent was the only outlet that didn't do that. They were the only ones who spoke out against the false claims that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Its sad to see what the Independent has been reduced to.
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  113. Exactly.
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  114.  @lukedixon131  My partner worked in one of the biggest hospitals in Ireland. During the - "pandemic" - things were so quiet in the hospital that most of the staff were on furlough for over half a year - and I know it was the same all over Ireland and England. I live in England and visit Ireland regularly. The "pandemic" was the quietest time the NHS ever had.
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  115. Crashed. Lol - I didn't realise we had technology that allows the front of a car to bend right back into its original shape after an impact.
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  116. It doesn't matter how much money will be saved: it'll be robbed, hoarded, spent on NGOs, think tanks and foreign "projects". Look at how they suddenly had billions to send to Ukraine.
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  117.  @gary63693  You're trolling pretty hard, here, and making yourself very obvious.
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  118. Character and integrity, eh? Remember the same charges were levelled against Julian Assange because of his journalism work? Also - he said recently he would pursue the government over war crimes if they continued to get entangled in foreign wars on behalf of the MIC - and suddenly he's accused of this. How coincidental.
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  119. God bless you, Mousey. I'll be praying for you and hope that everything works out. I know it will.
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  120. Two candidates, neither of which care two hoots about this country. Which to choose.....it's so difficult.....
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  121. Yes.
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  122.  @TheLiamMurphy  Many other scientists and virologists and doctors don't recommend it, some of them have even pointed towards existing and inexpensive drugs that are very effective against covid-19 - but you don't want to listen to those, so your assertion about interest in facts and logic does not apply to you. All you have to do is listen to what those scientists are saying, but you won't.
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  123.  @TheLiamMurphy  Not 99.9% of virologists - just the virologists that you agree with: unfortunately the others who are voicing serious disquiet about all this are being marginalised: even that fact alone should ring an alarm bell. But hey, if you have a habit of believing career politicians, big pharma and their various promoters go right ahead: I personally am very skeptical of politicians and corporations - especially when they are working hand in hand: and I always thought most people were, but there you go - I would never deny you your right to roll your sleeve up and take whatever they want to give you. I wouldn't even dream of trying to stop you. I can try warning you, but I won't stop you.
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  124. "Documented records of violent crime are down as police focus efforts on mean tweets and peaceful protests". There, I just clarified your statistics for you.
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  125. Sadiq Khant - Laurence Can! :D
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  126. There are way too many forms of contraception available for that to be used as an excuse: and it IS the baby's body - it's the mother's womb, but it's the baby's body.
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  127. They can try but Article 6 of UNESCO's Bioethics and Human Rights Act states that it is against International Law to force or coerce anyone into taking a vaccine against their will. If they try it they are open to serious court action and law suits. They'll be stopped. The main thing is people need to start familiarising themselves with their rights and I'm dismayed that the alternative media isn't doing this.
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  128. You really are as thick as a plank.
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  129. Many human rights obligations have not been met in this country - its surreal listening to this issue suddenly being touted as one.
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  130. Its not depressing because we're not going to comply. I can assure you none of those politicians will be following any of those rules. don't listen to them.
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  131. Nope. Never did - and I'm dismayed at the amount of people who did.
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  132. In fact its even more extraordinary than that - the cardiologist that Bridgen was quoting is Jewish himself - so Andrew Bridgen is being accused of anti-semitism for quoting a Jewish man's comment.
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  133.  @Aurasmae  Not most conservatives - most fake conservatives that are in the cabinet, maybe. Its been a long time since there were any genuine conservatives in the tories, but its also a long time since there have been any genuine labour politicians in labour.
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  134. This is not true. This story was put out to cause another reaction like Jan 6 in the hope that it could be then used against Trump and his supporters. Don't fall for it: David Freiheit, the lawyer, was talking about this on youtube.
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  135. Not guilty - he was never guilty: thankfully the jury rose above all the shameful media tactics and the lies of the prosecution: now let's look forward to the massive lawsuits that these media outlets will be paying.
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  136. Whatever your thoughts on Ukraine: dowsing the ambassador of a country that lost 27 million people in the fight against the n*zis on this particular day is despicable.
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  137. That's an old trick played by corrupt politicians: they told the guy's in the trenches they'd be home by Christmas just to keep them fighting.
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  138. 'Don't submit to this madness, they'll keep it going," I said last March. 'Tin foil had' they said last March.
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  139. February 2022: Ukraine forces began amassing on the border of Donbas (East Ukraine) and intensified shelling on the (mainly ethnic Russian) region: this was after 8 years of shelling and attacks that left 14,000 ethnic Russians in East Ukraine dead. East Ukraine saw what was coming and INVITED Russian forces in the end this once and for all. You've been listening to the same people who told you Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. It's a pity she was fooled by the same people you were.
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  140. Sorry to disappoint you: the story is fake. It was put out in the hope that it would cause another 'jan 6' reaction so it could be used against Trump and his supporters. Looks like you're still stuck in a free country with voting rights: sorry to have broken it to you this way.
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  141.  @brandonmasters8996  Lol, there was no vaccine mandate was there not?
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  142.  @Peepshow789  He didn't say it was infectious - he was talking about the 'my body, my choice' mantra and it's appearance and disappearance at the convenience of others.
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  143.  @brandonmasters8996  The point he's making is that they didn't say a word about the vaccine mandate - and I hope you're not going to pretend that there wasn't a mandate.
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  144.  @brandonmasters8996  The point he was making isn't the concept of choice: the vaccine mandate - and it was a mandate - was a clear infringement of body autonomy, but they were completely silent on that.
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  145.  @Peepshow789  His point was about 'my body, my choice'. They're out shrieking in the streets but they had nothing whatsoever to say about the vaccine mandate which was a serious breach of people's bodily autonomy. That's the point he was making.
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  146.  @Peepshow789  So anyone who doesn't share your opinion is "dumb" and "wrong". Got it. Amazing debating skills.
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  147. From another source: A devastating incident has shaken the community of Southport, as a 17-year-old asylum seeker, Ali-Al-Shakati, was identified as the suspect in a horrifying attack that resulted in the death of two children and left several others injured.
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  148.  @cottagearts8467  Dr. Luke O'Neill is an educated person who publicly promotes the jab - the only problem is he has refused to take it himself. That would make other educated people pause for thought and with good reason. I hope you had a good education.
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  149.  @TheLiamMurphy  He did refuse it and your fallacious claims to the the contrary won't change that, regardless of your ability to recite the word 'google'.
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  150. Absolutely right. There are some stores I will never set foot in again, some people who I have lost all respect for and I won't be forgetting them. It's been quite sobering seeing how certain people will behave in a situation like this.
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  151. How the mighty fall: I remember back in the day when The Independent was the only publication that warned Britain against believing the claims of Iraq's WMDs. The only publication to stand by journalistic principles: now look at it. SMH.
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  152. It's a real pity, too: The Independent used to be a great media outlet worthy of it's name - it's fallen far since then.
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  153.  @Zabzim  Lol....sure. Any excuse.
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  154.  @dazza4345  He said at the very beginning he doesn't need it. Pretty obvious to someone who can think for themselves that he has no intention of taking it.
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  155. I remember it very well - because it was the last time I ever believed a word out of our government or media.
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  156. True. In fact the co-founder of Greenpeace left the movement after it was taken over by these types and their agendas.
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  157. In fact Bridgen did NOT make that comparison: he was retweeting a comment that was, in fact, made by a Jewish man. There was a time when the Indepedent would have explained this itself - but there again, there was a time when I used to buy the Independent.
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  158. Nobody - and with good reason because the politicians and 'scientists' who are pushing this nonsense aren't even following the rules.
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  159. Remember Juilain Assange being hit with the same claims - all because of his journalism work. This Tory MP spoke up recently about war crimes being perpetrated against the people of Palestine. Amazing coincidence, same template.
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  160.  @shanepatrick641  You'd be amazed at the stuff that our media is keeping from us. This is just a re-run of 'Iraq's WMDs' by the same old liars.
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  161.  @mildlyderanged  Oh look - another genius who can't think for himself and relies on cliches being put in his head by other people.
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  162.  Orc Hunter  By the way: Crimea VOTED to join Russia to protect themselves when the pogroms (attacks and massacres) against East Ukraine began. I know you know that already - I'm just pointing that out for others reading this thread who may not know that. And it was the US who told Poroshenko to start attacking the East. How did that work out?!
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  163.  @agpe15  Yes, Crimea did vote to join Russia and no amount of repeating the word "deluded" is going to change that - your own bubble is not a reflection of the real world around you.
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  164.  @agpe15  Yes - Crimea had a fair election after Kiev started mounting attacks on East Ukraine on behalf of the US/UK. Exactly.
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  165.  @unklefrank319  True. Good point.
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  166. Tracy Seal. Don't mind Fastertrack: he's a troll.
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  167. Genau!
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  168. Desmond Swayne served in Afghanistan as a soldier. He was there.
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  169. Don't worry: Article 6 of UNESCO's Bioethics and Human Rights Act states that it is against International Law to force or coerce anyone into taking a vaccine against their will. If they try it they are open to serious court action and law suits. They'll be stopped. The main thing is people need to start familiarising themselves with their rights and I'm dismayed that the alternative media isn't doing this.
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  170. The protest was scheduled to be in Stephen's Green but the police locked down the green and prevented them from entering. That's why they were in the street. And you were in no danger from peaceful protestors - stop being afraid of your own shadow.
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  171. Sunak. Lying? Surely not - say it isn't so - my world view has been shattered.
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  172. True....again.
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  173.  @fastertrackcreative  facepalm - have you ever heard of herd immunity? you're a troll.
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  174.  @ArghansMordonMarghek  True: there's a lot of deleting and muting going on. 'Rumble' is a pretty good platform and it doesn't have any of this hassle.
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  175. Underdog lol: a multimillionaire with a $7 million mansion in California waiting for him when he decides the leave the country.
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  176. Lavrov is being way too kind. In fact in February 2022 the Ukraine military intensified shelling on East Ukraine's Donbas region, whilst amassing on the border. It was obvious they were preparing to over run Donbas. Russia, after 8 years of trying to get the West to honour the Minsk Peace agreement, saw what was coming and moved in to help protect Donbas. 8 years is a long time to be patiently asking West Ukraine/UK/NATO to honour a peace treaty while they continue attacking Donbas.
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  177. Yep. I wouldn't even be surprised if we were to find out that leaders of many of those paramilitary groups, on both sides, were informants and operatives themselves. Chess games.
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  178. There were already 2 different pills available - one of which is a cheap anti-malarial which was so effective the Chinese used it to cure all their cases - unfortunately every time I mention the name of this pill my comment is deleted.
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  179. Don't be an idiot. Nobody here is anti-vax, but there are questions to be asked about this particular one. Dr Luke O'Neill is the biggest public advocate of the jab yet he has actually refused to take it himself. If that doesn't cause you to wonder you are too stupid to even talk about this. Covid-19 also has a recovery rate of 99.7%. These are facts and not claims: learn to look at them and think for yourself.
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  180.  @martinus4873  True.
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  181. Delighted to see the Independent finally has some desperately needed views - ironic that they had to depend on someone they hate to help them achieve that.
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  182. Its a bad route to go down: the British police started that about 20 years ago and they are now utterly despised by the public (and treated very badly, too, because of it). Its a pity to see the Irish police walking into that same trap.
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  183. True. Luckily Article 6 of UNESCO's Bioethics and Human Rights Act states that it is against International Law to force or coerce anyone to take a vaccine against their will. I've been trying to spread this message far and wide - for some reason the alternative media is not even telling their viewers and listeners about this.
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  184. I remember when the Independent was worthy of it's name: it was even one of the only publications that urged caution over the WMD lie being pushed by other news outlets. Such a pity to see what the Independent (which I used to buy) has become.
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  185. The first line of your comment is absolutely spot on in it's delivery.
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  186. Don't worry: the law is on our side on this one: Article 6 of UNESCO's Bioethics and Human Rights Act states that it is against International Law to force or coerce anyone into taking a vaccine against their will. If they try it they are open to serious court action and law suits. They'll be stopped. The main thing is people need to start familiarising themselves with their rights and I'm dismayed that the alternative media isn't doing this.
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  187. True.
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  188. Lol - very well put.
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  189. Lol - who's going to lead Britain? We all know that neither of them are going to make a difference - certainly not a good difference: people in this country will continue to suffer whilst this lot carry on sending billions to Ukraine, to be pocketted by the rulers over there.
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  190.  @Jim-gh6mr  Exactly. They won't enforce it.
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  191. From another source: A devastating incident has shaken the community of Southport, as a 17-year-old asylum seeker, Ali-Al-Shakati, was identified as the suspect in a horrifying attack that resulted in the death of two children and left several others injured.
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  192. @Lauren Lewis I guarantee you, dear, I am not three emojis.
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  193.  @FontaineDerby  ....of which the msm does very little of these days.
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  194. The circus is over....where are the clowns.......send in the clowns.....don't bother, they're here.
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  195. If only Sunak or Truss had been in office in the last few years: from what they're telling us they would have made a huge difference. Oh, wait a sec!
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  196. Absolutely. Typical sociopath: and boris has surrounded himself with plenty of those.
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  197. Given the weird kinks of most of those creeps they'd probably enjoy it.
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  198.  Sir Ian of Essex  Thanks for the 'deniers' cliche. Too bad you don't have the brains to understand that the opposition parties want even more draconian measures. D'uh!
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  199.  @thepubagain  Lol, he probably already has.
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  200. Put some clothes on and go and catch some criminals!
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  201.  @felicitykeane402  Thank you.
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  202. Yep - the kids know it: the adults don't seem to.
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  203. The Supreme Court ruling is not a ban on abortion - it is a ruling that individual states now have the right to make their own decisions regarding abortion. Some states have chosen to ban, others have chosen not to. Your description of the unborn as "an embryo" is disgusting - many terminations have been carried out well beyond that point with even the more insane pro-abortionists trying to legislate for far later terminations. Women these days have unprecedented access to contraception and unfortunately the vast majority of abortions are carried out simply because the child wasn't wanted, regardless of those tired and untrue cliches that women only have abortions if they have been the victims of assault, incest or a mistake. But at least console yourself in knowing that this is not a ban - many states are carrying on as they always did.
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  204. Having utterly devasted the country that his father moved to, he has left us to pick up the pieces while he runs away to Europe for a top job with the people he really works for. His replacement will be no better: Fine Gael chose him: they all have to go.
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  205. None...because none of them have even been following them to begin with.
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  206. Remember Juilain Assange being hit with the same claims - all because of his journalism work. This Tory MP spoke up recently about war crimes being perpetrated against the people of Palestine. Amazing coincidence, same template.
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  207. True - but you're no different, Sadiq.
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  208. Beautiful comment.
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  209. Nice one. Have a great Christmas with family and friends.
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  210. Exactly.
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  211. Hancock now wants time alone with his family. His directives caused numerous elderly people to die alone, banned from even seeing family members in their final hours, with threats of legal action: his rules have turned families upside down and devastated livelihoods. Meanwhile he and valance, whitty & ferguson are currenlty facing a private lawsuit with alleged evidence they all stood to gain personally from a mass v@££ine roll out. All while he followed none of his own nation destroying rules.
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  212. Very true - and Al Gore went on to buy a massive beach front property shortly afterwards....showing just how brave and committed he is in facing off this watery threat. ManBearPig is a huge inspiration to us all.
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  213. Lol "conspiracy theories". Hard to believe what the independent has become compared to what it once was. It was once the only newspaper that didn't parrot the rest of the mainstream. It was the only publication that openly spoke out against the false Iraq WMD claims. Such a pity to see what it has been reduced to.
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  214. Exactly. The people who own sunak know all about it, he himself may, or may not, be intelligent enough to understand it but he has his script and he's sticking with it.
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  215. These politicians won't be following the rules anyway, I guarantee you. Ignore them, they don't have the means to enforce this rubbish, anyway.
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  216. These days the media is completely bought off: I remember the Independent back in the days when it was the only outlet that resisted the whole WMD lie: its a huge shame to see what it's become now.
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  217. Don't worry: Article 6 of UNESCO's Bioethics and Human Rights Act states that it is against International Law to force or coerce anyone into taking a vaccine against their will. If they try it they are open to serious court action and law suits. They'll be stopped. The main thing is people need to start familiarising themselves with their rights and I'm dismayed that the alternative media isn't doing this.
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  218. I love the way Marjorie Taylor Greene speaks to British media personel the way everyone should speak to them lol.
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  219. Don't laugh, Starmer - we despise you and your party just as much as we despise bozo the clown and his gang.
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  220. Lol - that comment belongs on a poster.
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  221. Possibly so but don't worry: the law is on our side on this one: Article 6 of UNESCO's Bioethics and Human Rights Act states that it is against International Law to force or coerce anyone into taking a vaccine against their will. If they try it they are open to serious court action and law suits. They'll be stopped. The main thing is people need to start familiarising themselves with their rights and I'm dismayed that the alternative media isn't doing this.
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  222. Lol Raab, whose cabinet turned Britain into a police state overnight is going to 'pressure' China on human rights. How" By pressing his face so firmly against their backsides they'll all keel over?
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  223.  @stevenwallacebaker9169  Precisely: and its disturbing and dismaying that so many people are so quick to believe these slanders. Nobody is safe when the law (and now even the media) is being weaponised to not just silence, but destroy, people who criticise the government or any of their controllers that don't want to be criticised. The mainstream media are particularly despicable in all this.
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  224. @mr wpg True.
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  225. He never thought anything of the sort: he did everything he could to get along with the West: it's too bad you've been taken in by the same liars who told us about Iraq's WMDs.
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  226. Psychopath. She probably enjoys the destruction she has caused along with the probability that there will be no consequences for her an those other crooks.
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  227. Don't worry, Daniel. Its not going to happen. Don't forget there was a very heavy snow only 2 winters ago and these very same newspapers were talking about months of snowy chaos all over the world. They're in this to sell papers, the more dramatic they are the more views they get.
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  228.  @TheLiamMurphy  Sure, little Liam - there are plenty of other scientists who do not follow this narrative but they don't agree with you so you don't want to listen to them.
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  229. True :/
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  230.  @TheLiamMurphy  ​ @TheLiamMurphy No it isn't, I think you're mixing it up with the 100% of virologists who are following the government line (politicians are all very honest) and big pharma corporate interests (another very trustworthy bunch): of course 100% of them are going to say what you're saying: you've paid no attention to those who are extremely concerned about this experimental 'vaccine' (gene therapy) - but, as I said, and we're both beginning to repeat each other at this stage - by all means feel free to believe the political class in Ireland and the corporate interests who have, interestingly and successfully, lobbied to exempt themselves from liability of any injury or death caused by the vaccine: you trust those guys to inject you with their experimental drug - go right ahead: I guess in 5 years we could chat again on this thread and see how well it's going for you. I live in Europe by the way: I'm in Ireland at the moment.
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  231. Lol - Starmer stand up to a powerful Muslim world leader? He's too frightened to even speak about Muslim criminals in the UK.
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  232. No, you got it wrong Independent. Snow disappeared 5 years ago - Al Gore predicted this in his incredible, factually based non-fiction documentary 'An inconvenient truth'.
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  233.  Aiden Johnson  I repeat - Sadiq Khant.
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  234.  Aiden Johnson  Crime has shot through the roof on his watch because he simply Khant do his job. The fact that you can dismiss a genuine concern as 'racism' shows how mush of a racist you yourself are - and quite a despicable one if you paint everyone who doesn't agree with you as a racist. Well, at least you've shown us what type of a person supports this corrupt and ineffective mayor.
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  235. Well, bag it up and we'll vote for it to be the next PM.
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  236.  @maxcaines3568  True. Its the owners that are the real problem. Well done on striking it in the face. The fact that the owner swore at you comes as no surprise at all, it is a certain type that goes around with these dogs. I remember once a few years ago seeing a young guy walking down the street with a pitbull, suddenly, without any warning it went for the walking stick of an old man, growled, bit it then carried on. Owner didn't even call it back or apologise to the old guy. I myself pointed it out to the owner and he explained that the stick freaked his dog out: tbh he didn't seem like a bad person in that case, but he is a dangerous owner.
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  237. Boris the police state libertarian.
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  238. OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Please don't tell me its true.
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  239. That's very easy to say sitting there behind a nice, safe keyboard. The police have lost control of the streets but they are more than happy, as they've shown over and over again, to charge anyone who defends themselves and injures one of those perpetrators. The only way to have defended him was with a weapon if you don't want to end up dead - and good luck explaining to the UK "justice" system that it was self defence or defence of others.
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  240. The worst thing is that the Independent used to be an excellent newspaper: back in 2002 when most media outlets were baying to bomb Iraq, the Independent was the only newspaper that was skeptical of the lies being told about WMD. Its a real shame to see how far its fallen.
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  241. Exactly. They are all in their own little club, pretending to be opposed to each other, parasiting off us like a pair of bloated tics.
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  242. Silence. The Moron Of Omicron speaks.
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  243. ..........boris johnson announces everything will be opening June 21st lol.............go back to sleep, Independent, or go back to the real journalism you used to be respected for.
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  244. That's a smart doctor.
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  245. The only thing people regret is voting him and his party back in. Two Tier Kier. He and his party have caused this.
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  246.  @Henry-xu5jg  What an unbelievably stupid thing to say: you don't know anything about me. Maybe you're projecting.
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  247.  @jvernon9094  When I wrote 'anyone' I wrote anyone normal: the tory cabinet is made up of low lives - the fact that everyone here seems so enamoured that she said "Oh my God" and then went over to the presenter really shows how low our expectations are of our political class - and that's a real problem.
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  248. Lol nice one.
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  249. Who cares what they are seeing as the politicians will be breaking them all, anyway? And seeing as the previous lockdowns have been ineffective and disastrous the rest of us will be spending Christmas as normal with family and friends remembering and celebrating what Christmas is all about, regardless of lying and corrupt politicians and journalists.
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  250.  @Tosse901  'Don't think so' isn't an argument: argue your point: that's a lot of people to lose so that we wouldn't have to live under the 3rd Reich.
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  251.  @Tosse901  Unfortunately that's where you're being lied to. I've been following the conflict in Ukraine since 2014: in 2014 the elected govt was overthrown in a violent coup and replaced by the Right Sector with the help of the US State Dept. The government then banned the Russian language and a series of attacks against East Ukraine (which is mainly ethic Russian) began: these escalated into massacres and the 2014-16 war in Donbass East Ukraine began. A peace agreement was signed (largely on Putin's insistence) - but the Ukraine military carried on attacking East Ukraine. In February this year the Ukraine army intensified shelling on the region and began amassing again on the border: it was obvious what was coming next so East Ukraine mobilised and invited Russia in to help end this once and for all. Everything I have mentioned is a matter of public record - you are being manipulated and lied to by the same people who told us Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. That lie cost 1 million lives. Fool me once etc etc.
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  252.  @Tosse901  Tell me where it's 'bs Russian propaganda' - point by point: tell me one single fact that I'm wrong about.
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  253. Article 6 of UNESCO's Bioethics and Human Rights Act states that it is against International Law to force or coerce anyone into taking a vaccine against their will. If they try it they are open to serious court action and law suits. They'll be stopped. The main thing is people need to start familiarising themselves with their rights and I'm dismayed that the alternative media isn't doing this.
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  254. He makes my skin crawl. Its like watching a reptile disguised as a human.
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  255.  @Pimpernel-k5v  Oh no! Please, anything but assumptions. Where's your humanity? Lol! :D. But seriously - You weren't there either but the difference between me and you is I do my own research instead of believing the same people who told us all that Iraq had WMDs. You should try that some time.
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  256.  @border304  "Where is the hypocrisy?"!
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  257. Lol - the sound of a pip squeak.
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  258. Given the state of today's mainstream media, we've probably learned very little - just as we did when NHS staff were all being told "Take the j@b or lose your jobs'. Such a pity, too: I used to buy the Independent, back in the days when it was worthy of it's name.
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  259. He is amongst his own ilk. All pigs in a big, expensive sty that we're paying for. That's why they expelled Bridgen - he wouldn't slide down into the slurry with them.
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  260. Who cares? The politicians and scientists that enforced these rules on the nation weren't even following them themselves.
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  261. Police always "find a break" in the case when holiday season in the Algarve begins. Every year its the same - May/June a new lead is found and detectives have no choice but to visit that beautiful coastal village for a few weeks on full pay. You can set your calendar by it now. Just watch. There will be a new lead in May next year, too, and the year after.
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  262.  @Edriss-g8l  What are talking about? Or do you even know what you're talking about?
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  263. Here we go again. The same WHO that failed on so many levels it has become dangerous.
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  264.  @dec3142  It hasn't been banned - the Supreme Court has just ruled that states will be making the decision from now on: some states will ban, others won't.
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  265.  @drozycoder2007  There is easy access to contraception - every single different type of contraception, in America.
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  266.  @blahblahcw  So killing an unborn child is called 'future perspective' now, is it? Nobody is arguing that women shouldn't be burdened by unwanted children: all they have to do is avail of the wide range of easily available contraceptives - it's very simple: but there again, anyone who can call abortion a form of contraception, can't really be reasoned with and can't take responsibility - try to take a current perspective on that.
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  267. They can try but Article 6 of UNESCO's Bioethics and Human Rights Act states that it is against International Law to force or coerce anyone into taking a vaccine against their will. If they try it they are open to serious court action and law suits. They'll be stopped. The main thing is people need to start familiarising themselves with their rights and I'm dismayed that the alternative media isn't doing this.
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  268. Not true. People have complied right down to even handing their most basic freedoms away. Plus covid-19 has a recovery rate of 99.7% so its not a virus that needs to be worried about. Politicians lie all the time, I don't know why people chose to believe them suddenly.
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  269. You sure about that? You haven't met my wife.
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  270. Lol what??? Are you serious?
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  271. If you think the police have become too soft just try to remember how they behaved during the I0ckd0wn. That being said: if the protesters are not preventing people from travelling, they're not doing anything illegal.
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  272.  @ULYSSES-31  Yeah I see a picture of someone holding a needle close to O'Kelly's arm - I guess you don't have the attention span or the brains to remember when London Mayor Sadiq Khan posed for a flu jab picture and was roundly laughed at when everyone could see the sheath was still on the syringe when it was being pressed against his arm: but hey - go ahead and roll your sleeves up - I am definitely not going to try to argue you out of taking it.
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  273.  @TheWokeFlatEarthTruth  I saw the picture of him with a needle being held close to his arm - and as I had remarked to that other idiot on the thread London Mayor Sadiq Khan once infamously posed for a flu shot during which the syringe was still in its protective casing when it was pressed against his arm: if I saw a pic of the needle actually going into his arm I'd sut up straight away and wouldn't say another thing about it. You're way too trusting.
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  274.  @TheWokeFlatEarthTruth  No need to to upset yourself, Flat earth truth: if you want to believe a bunch of politicians and their friends go right ahead, and, as I also said to the other idiot - go ahead and roll your sleeves up and take that jab - I certainly won't stop you. And your 'facts are meaningless' comment makes me symoathise with you very deeply. SMH - a jab over a flu variant that has a 99.7% recovery rate. Some people.
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  275.  @nigelraporam6917  I never said the taoiseach or tanaiste didn't get the vaccine, so you should really read and understand my original comment before arguing against something I never even wrote. Smh.
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  276.  @JohnThomas-c7e  You're right. Sometimes I forget that people sometimes just troll (or shill) - we can normally tell by the very generic and snarky comments they make and the no content channels.
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  277.  @Schtiel  Yep - a qualified scientist is "just a hack" when he speaks facts that you don't feel like believing. Its a mystery to me why you feel so threatened by just looking at his claims and the statistics behind them - then you could make an informed judgement - but you won't.
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  278.  @TheLiamMurphy  Calm down, Little Liam - I replied to your comment already if you take a few deep breaths and read it.
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  279.  @TheWokeFlatEarthTruth  Here we go again. You live in a world where politicians and big pharma never lie and are to be trusted over everyone else - that fact alone gives me my very deepest sympathies for you - and thank you for admitting (without having the brains to understand it) that the 99.7% statistic is true - of course you added all sorts of fluff that someone who believes career politicians and big pharma would, but I guess that comes with the territory. Poor guy.
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  280.  @Schtiel  You're talking about what he claimed. Newsflash: untrustworthy people do lie, incase your cognitive development has not reached that point yet. Also - he knew people would question him, so he did what you do - threw out the word 'anti vaxxer (ingenious argument lol) : I'm not an anti-vaxxer, I'm just deeply skeptical of this one and the obsessive push behind it: this would make any rational person question it. Now clearly you believe everything politicians and big pharma say, that's your prerogative - as I said before: go ahead, roll your sleeves up and take it: I'm not going to stop you or even try to convince you not to.
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  281.  @TheWokeFlatEarthTruth  I could, and will, ask you the same question. I think you suffer from a condition called the Dunning Kruger effect: look it up - it begins with you being completely and utterly incapable of processing the fact that people may have good reason to be skeptical - and getting very upset, defensive and even angry when your own beliefs are challenged. Calling evidence that you don' want to believe 'no evidence at all' is another trait. As I'd mentioned before - you have my sympathies. Try thinking for yourself.
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  282.  @TheWokeFlatEarthTruth  "Calling evidence that you don't believe is not evidence at all". Your Dunning Kruger effect prevents you from seeing how that statement applies to you. Believing a bunch of politicians, big pharma and their promoters is really not a good idea - I'm naturally skeptical of those people anyway and with good reason: as even you would know that all of them have very sketchy track records: we're never going to agree on any of this: I've looked at it (including evidence from doctors and and scientists who are not agreeing with any of the promoted narrative) you've looked at it from your end and decided who you're going to believe. I'm not an anti-vaxxer but I'm deeply suspicious of this one and the people who are rabidly promoting it.
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  283.  @TheWokeFlatEarthTruth  I've just replied to your message and seen you've written another reply, too. TBH you've been going on about evidence but haven't produced any yourself. In fact I posted 3 links yesterday by credible sources but none of those were even looked at, which is why I rarely post them these days because it'll always be answered with 'I don't believe that'. You're welcome to post whatever evidence and links you want and I will (unlike most people who demand links and evidence) read them.
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  284.  @Schtiel  The words 'Confirmation bias and cherry picking' is not an argument and could just as easily be applied to you. All the tabloid papers completely agree with your points on Covid and the vaccine so you're admitting something about the quality of your argument without even realising: I doubt if you've ever written a peer reviewed paper yourself, so I chuckled at that, too, but I have read and listened to scientists and doctors who are extremely concerned about the response to Covid-19 and the vaccine - and for good reason. Your tabloid paper remark, given that the tabloids completely agree with your narrative has given me a real laugh. Thank you.
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  285.  @TheWokeFlatEarthTruth  They are backed up by sources and evidence, 3 links of which I provided, but (predictably) you weren't interested in looking at that as I knew you wouldn't be: you yourself have provided nothing. There are two schools of scientific thought: one of them powered by politicians and big pharma (both well known for being untrustworthy and corrupt) the other by scientists, virologists and doctors who are extremely concerned about the response to the virus and the use of these experimental gene therapies - some of them even have pointed to existing, inexpensive drugs that have been very effective in treating the virus: interestingly many of them are being marginalised on this issue despite their credentials - which makes me, and should make you, understandably very skeptical.
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  286.  @TheWokeFlatEarthTruth  Just look at the links I provided: you can't keep saying I provided nothing, especially as you yourself haven't.
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  287.  @Schtiel  Repeating yourself over and over again only suggests one thing - that you're trying to convince yourself - now think of something original to say - you sound exactly like all the other accounts who've been saying the same thing - anyone would think you're the same person with multiple accounts repeating the same babble with no personal sign of meaningful life or intelligence.
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  288.  @TheWokeFlatEarthTruth  They're there alright: I posted them yesterday - they were still there when I posted them and I also posted them to the other account name on this thread Schitlel or whatever he calls himself.
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  289.  @TheWokeFlatEarthTruth  They are being called vaccines by their creators and promoters but they are gene therapies - and that's straight from a scientist's mouth - and is also one of the many reasons I am so deeply suspicious of the career politicians, representatives of big pharma and those who are helping promote this jab: and it's why you should be, too.
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  290. They should rename themselves the World Trade Organisation just so we could call them the WTF!
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  291. Lol. Yeah, sure. I believe you - hope that makes you feel better.
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  292. Con jab! That's a great description.
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  293. No, they weren't. They kept their heads down and their mouths shut because there was no SJW virtue capital in it - and also because they are selfish cowards.
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  294. Its hard to believe that the Independent was once a news source that could be trusted. The only main publication that openly voiced scepticism when all the others were telling lie after lie about lr@q wmds. How far you have fallen.
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  295. What a big baby. It's really too bad Rock didn't slap him straight back. No class.
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  296. "Obsession" - clearly Mr. Milliband is projecting.
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  297. Just peaceful non compliance: just don't comply. If everyone refused to wear their muzzles at the same time, for instance, there would be no way it can be enforced.
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  298.  Johnny Bananas  Hahahahaha, Oh, yeah - and when everybody submitted to his lockdowns where did that get us? Look around you, you absolute muppet. Go back inside, lock your door, put your muzzle back on, enjoy Christmas in prison and see if he'll be back around with the key to let you out. Dear oh dear. Bananas is right.
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  299. Oh! That would have been a perfect comparison.
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  300.  @sarah-jaynemcdonald2594  To be honest with you the effect on vulnerable people has already been catastrophic but a lot of it is not being reported on - and, as you rightly point out, its bound to get worse for as long as the nation is willing to tolerate it.
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  301. They've never been following them.
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  302.  @Zabzim  E-bikes and E-cars produce pollution free fires, do they?
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  303.  @pjj177  Good point.
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  304.  @obk1404  Working in the medical profession he is a frontline worker: also - "not jumping the line" is him saying he's not taking it at all in a way that will fool people like you. Your third point about having been fully vaccinated because of his age is comedy gold, especially from someone who started their own comment with the word "nonense". But hey, go and roll up your sleeves and take it on behalf of someone who has no intention of taking it. I definitely will not stop you.
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  305.  @obk1404  A professor of biochemistry who has elected himself to be one of the biggest and most regular media spokesmen on Covid 19, and he's not on the frontline as far as you're concerned. Yeah, sure - but I'm glad you at least haven't denied that he has refused to take the vaccine that he is urging everyone else to take, despite having missed completely the point I was actually making in the first place.
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  306.  @obk1404  Google. Lol! Yeah I know what he said and I did see a picture of him with someone holding a needle close to his arm: I also saw a picture of London Mayor Sadiq Khan pretending to take his flu shot whilst promoting it for others - lol the needle was still in its protecting plastic sheath when it was being pressed against his arm. If you want to believe career politicians, big pharma and their minions go right ahead - I'm not going to stop you: if you want to be injected with an experimental drug that hasn't even been tested properly go right ahead on that, too. I can assure you I won't try to stop you, believe me.
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  307. Lol - 'A woman's right to choose' until there's the possibility of prosecution, eh? Then it's: 'It was the man all along''.
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  308.  @sandraroyce5820  Lol, you already know I'm not saying that - but I'm glad you seem to be drifting towards the idea that it should not only be a woman's right to choose. :D
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  309. Another one bites the dust - but there are plenty more where he came from.
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  310. I remember the days when the Independent earned its name: when all the other news outlets were claiming Iraq had WMDs the Independent was the only one that was questioning the narrative. Such a huge pity to see how far it has fallen.
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  311. Article 6 of UNESCO's Bioethics and Human Rights Act states that it is against International Law to force or coerce anyone into taking a vaccine against their will. If they try it they are open to serious court action and law suits. They'll be stopped. The main thing is people need to start familiarising themselves with their rights and I'm dismayed that the alternative media isn't doing this as a priority..
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  312. He's been breaking them from day one - they all have been.
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  313. If you knew what was really going on in Ukraine you wouldn't say that: don't forget this is the same media and political class that kept telling us Iraq had weapons of mass destruction along with numerous other lies until we advocated bombing that country and slaughtering a million people. We found out afterwards they knew it was. a lie. They're doing it again.
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  314. True.
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  315.  @Dead-2-0-9  I was wondering that myself - but he's a Washington swamp rat: I'm sure he's allowed many outrageous things to be rubbed in his face over the years to get where he is.
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  316. Do some actual research on the Ukraine war instead of listening to the same people who told you Iraq had WMDs.
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  317.  @Akechipuff  Lol the only people who need help are people who believe everything politicians say.
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  318.  @الاشاعرةأهلالسنةوالجماعة-ظ3ز  Yes, I believe so.
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  319. Yep.
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  320.  @agpe15  Don't make stupid remarks. If you have a sensible point to make about what's really happening there, then make your point and I'll happily engage.
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  321.  Orc Hunter  Stop talking to yourself. This conflict began back in 2014 and started when West Ukraine began attacking East Ukraine - and I know that you already know that. I agree - Slava Ukraine: its too bad you're being used by the US/UK and EUI to slaughter each other just because they want to use you against Russia. They don't give a damn about you except for your use as a weapon and they don't care if Ukraine is completely destroyed in the process.
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  322.  Orc Hunter  Oh Putin faked the elections did he? Funny you should say that: we've had very odd weather in the UK - I'll bet Putin had something to do with that, too.
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  323.  @mildlyderanged  "conspiracy theorist". Another genius who can't think for himself and has to rely on other people putting cliches in his empty head. Do your own research - everything I've written is a matter of public record, Congress officially voted the $40bn, they publicly declared that - the UK publicly declared they were sending 35million. But, lol, if you're happy enough to believe the same liars who told us Saddam Hussein had WMDs (that lie led to the slaughter of a million people) and that Assad gassed his own people and Gaddafi pulled babies out of incubators, go right ahead. I feel sorry for you. I really do.
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  324.  @StewartMillarTheManCave  In 2014 when Kiev attacked East Ukraine (at the behest of the US) Donetsk and Luhansk asked Russia if they could join the federation: Russia tuned them down (very odd behaviour for an evil empire builder, don't you think?). Fought tooth and nail? Yeah - sent into a meat grinder by a puppet president who has ordered them to sacrifice themselves and has even sacked generals who want to negotiate an end to this. They have no choice.
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  325.  @mildlyderanged  Lol - another lazy empty-head demanding links that he won't even look at: I'll tell you what: you send me the links disproving everything I've said and I'll happily send you links. Deal?
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  326. I see that 'mildlyderanged' appears to have muted me after asking for llnks. Odd thing for someone to do if they genuinely want to engage. Odd but typical.
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  327.  @mildlyderanged  Really. None of my replies or attempts to send you anything have gone through. Did you google the numerous articles on Johnson by the way that I mentioned in my muted comments?
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  328.  @mildlyderanged  Ah, good. That last reply seems to have gone through ok - so I'll repeat what I said in my muted replies. My attempts to send llnks didn't go through so if you really assert yourself you can google it and you will find numerous article s on the matter - even the bbc reported on it, incase you fall back on another cliche about sources. Happy reading, mildlyderanged.
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  329.  @mildlyderanged  Did you google it? Or is that too much work for someone who's only accustomed to other people having to do everything for him - whether it's spoon feeding him cliches or sending him genuine information?
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  330.  @mildlyderanged  Gone very quiet all of a sudden - I guess you're not interested in the evidence you were baying for after all.
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  331.  @mildlyderanged  And I already explained to you I sent it 3 times and each time it didn't go through. That's why I said google it. Why don't you actually do something for yourself for once in your life?
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  332.  @mildlyderanged  Plus - even if those sources that I'd replied with hadn't been muted you wouldn't have looked at them anyway: you, and people like you, should really learn to look into things for yourself and not expect to be spoon fed by others all the time. Doing your own research really isn't all that difficult and you really should try it.
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  333.  @mildlyderanged  I did try to send you those llnks but from years of dealing with lazy people I doubt you would have looked at them anyway - people like your good self just become a waste of time: now you'll notice I haven't demanded that you send me sources and links because I don't play the same juvenile games that you do. I did try to send you those llnks, and I couldn't care less whether you believe me or not - you're way too insignificant for that - But when I'm saying you should do your own research and use your own head I really do genuinely mean that. Now - as I said earlier my attempts to send them to you didn't work - so motivate yourself, do something useful with your life and google it and stop expecting me to spoon feed you: you should be way too old for that by now: but you won't because you're afraid to google any of that stuff because it confirms what I wrote.
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  334.  @mildlyderanged  All of which are verified and you're incapable of grasping that I did try to send lnks and you're incapable of googling said links, so I'm now going to waste your timE the way you've been wasting mine: SOURCES, PLEASE MILDLY DERANGED: SEND ME THE LINKS AND SOURCES THAT DISPROVE WHAT I WROTE.
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  335.  @mildlyderanged  C'mon mildly deranged: I demand sources - send me the links and your sources. Prove what I wrote is untrue.
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  336.  @mildlyderanged  Where are your sources? Send me your links?
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  337.  @agpe15  Show me the source that I'm desperate. Send me the links. Where's your proof lol?
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  338.  @agpe15  Send me a hyperlink, agpe 15: where's your source? Show me your link.
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  339.  @agpe15  Where's your proof that it's misinformation? Send me your source. Show me a hyperlink.
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  340.  @agpe15  Link please! SOURCE!
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  341.  @mildlyderanged  Sources, please! lol.
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  342.  @mildlyderanged  Lol - yeah - a demand for you to send links and sources shut you up pretty effectively, didn't it.
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  343.  @agpe15  Source please!
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  344.  @mildlyderanged  SOURCES!!! Send me proof. I demand links, hyperlinks, Evidence. Sources! Its not that difficult. Give me your proof!
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  345.  @mildlyderanged  Come on. I'm waiting. Where's your source that boris never told zelensky to negotiate. Links? Where are they? Sources. Proof! Evidence. Its not that complicated.
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  346.  @mildlyderanged  Come one: where's your source and your evidence that boris never told zelensky not to negotiate. Send me a link. Its not that complicated.
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  347.  @mildlyderanged  Come on Mr deranged. I'm waiting for your sources.
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  348.  @mildlyderanged  Sources, Mr Deranged. Proof. Where is it?
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  349.  @mildlyderanged  Mr Deranged? I'm waiting for the sources? Where are they Mr.deranged?
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  350.  @mildlyderanged  Mr Deranged has run away again: and he didn't even leave his sources, links or evidence behind....or his burden of proof. Oh well.
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  351.  @mildlyderanged  Demanded so many sources and links but ran away when I turned the tables. What a hypocrite - and I don't need sources, links or a burden of proof to know that.
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  352.  @mildlyderanged  Bye bye Mr Deranged. Come back when you have sources, proof and links for your own claims while you're demanding them from everyone else. 'mildlyderanged' is right.
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  353. So how many are you expecting at this year's westminster Christmas bonanza, Boris - while you all laugh at the rest of us?
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  354.  @stephenjones6500  Lol, true.
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  355. Oh haw, haw, haw, haw haw: that was a rather jolly good one, I daresay.
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  356. That's true. Because the Independent doesn't care. They are pro-IDF and Pro-Ukraine.
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  357. Exactly.
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  358.  @AlexJones-ue1ll  Desmond Swayne served in the armed forces in Afghanistan: he was there as a soldier and he fought the Taliban.
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  359. Well, the biggest advocate of the vaccine, Dr Luke O'Neill, has refused to take it himself. Critical thinkers would ask questions about that, and may even be a little distrustful of it - but go right ahead and roll you sleeve up, I definitely won't stop you.
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  360. Labour and the tories are in lockstep at this stage. There is no difference between them, both despise their voting base equally.
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  361. They are already emperors with no clothes but they still don't realise it.
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  362.  @nadiasartscrafts4528  I'll bet they do: I'll bet they all wish they were like him, it's probably why they resent him so much: envy and jealousy.
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  363. Lol, good one!
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  364. Exactly: this is nonsense: the politicians won't be locking down and isolating - and they can't enforce the isolation of the entire country. Ignore them and celebrate Christmas as normal, the way it always has been.
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  365. It's worse than insane: the biggest public promoter of the jab (Dr. Luke O'Neill) has actually refused to take it himself - but no msm journalist has called him out on it and the Irish seem to still be listening to him.
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  366.  @dimashevchenkoua  NATO/US/UK has been fighting Russia in Ukraine since 2014 and they have had their asses handed to them for 8 years now - and up until 2022 they have been fighting militias in Donbass: Russia got involved in 2022 and all that NATO/UK/US has now is the same liars in the media that they used in Iraq to tell us all how great its going for them.
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  367. Don't worry. The law is on our side on this one: Article 6 of UNESCO's Bioethics and Human Rights Act states that it is against International Law to force or coerce anyone into taking a vaccine against their will. If they try it they are open to serious court action and law suits. They'll be stopped. The main thing is people need to start familiarising themselves with their rights and I'm dismayed that the alternative media isn't doing this.
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  368.  @mizzury54  You're not very smart. I could ask you the same questions. I've seen numerous examples of protesters blocking roads all over America and the UK - and the police doing nothing about it. I think its relatively safe to assume, based on common sense, that the same happened here. If you haven't seen any of that, especially in the last 3 years, you've been living under a rock.
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  369. From another source: A devastating incident has shaken the community of Southport, as a 17-year-old asylum seeker, Ali-Al-Shakati, was identified as the suspect in a horrifying attack that resulted in the death of two children and left several others injured.
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  370. Lol - resigned over the pincher scandal! Everyone (except the independent) knows they merely rats leaving a sinking ship, nothing more.
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  371.  @ArghansMordonMarghek  Ah! Lol. You're right. Embarrassing typo.Thank you. I'll correct it.
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  372.  @nathanaelsmith3553  Labour 25.
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  373.  @ArghansMordonMarghek  Very true.
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  374.  @ArghansMordonMarghek  Lol - to be honest with you I normally tear people a new one if they correct a typo of mine, but I could tell you were being genuine, so I took it in the same grace it was meant in.
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  375.  @nathanaelsmith3553  Doesn't change my answer.
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  376.  @nathanaelsmith3553  You should try actually reading and understanding what people are saying instead of concentrating on yourself all the time. I already said I despise the tory government but that sailed over your head. You made a very unfortunate, libellous remark about Crispin Blunt, so I mentioned the Labour 25, which I guess also sailed right over your head, too, lol.
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  377.  @nathanaelsmith3553  "Pot kettle black". Amazing intellectual argument there. If you're not making assumptions about guilt then you've defeated your own argument. Westminster is a cesspool - and I take it that you haven't googled 'Labour 25' to see just how ingrained it is in the labour party, but labour seems to have more control over its party re: dissenting voices - and more sway over the media. I'll make this point for the last time: I DESPISE the tory cabinet, get that straight - but the only MPs who have stood up and spoken out about the tory party's overreach in the last 3 years (lockdowns, mandates, wars) have been Tory back benchers. The lib dems - nothing, labour - nothing.
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  378.  @kevinward3088  True. I shake my head in dismay when I see how easily so many people are being fooled. Iraq WMDs, covid, lockdowns, giving billions to Ukraine while so many UK citizens are on the breadline, Labour and Lib Dems in lockstep all the way and people actually think a Labour govt will be an improvement.
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  379.  @ArghansMordonMarghek  Very true. The country is ruled by a crowd of inadequate social misfits in suits who nobody ever voted for.
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  380. Yeah, Trump has been out of office for 3 years - the disasters that have happened since have all been on your watch.
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  381. Well - all people have to do is their own research. The facts of what happened are all in the public domain. Farage has done his research and he's not listening to the same people who told us he same things about lr@q.
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  382. "Fearful' of another lockdown. This lying charlatan knows that the public has already done everything and more: there was a day when the Independent would never have allowed itself to be mouthpiece for corrupt liars.
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  383. The victim of that shooting was saying afterwards in an interview that, after shooting him, she just stood there while the male officers jumped in to help him: he said she didn't even say sorry or ask him if he was okay: just strutted around the place as if she hadn't done anything wrong.
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  384. So....this devastating storm doesn't affect the LGBT. People - I think we've found the solution to our catastophic weather.
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  385. Well, its both of course! :D
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  386. You sound like just as big a halfwit as they are.
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  387. Let's not forget labour didn't object once over this insane lock down - and I don't believe the opposition party was even honouring the rules it was happy to see imposed on everyone else. As despicable as the cabinet have been over the last two years the "opposition" has proven to be no different.
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  388. We all do. Now get back to Britain and at least pretend you're trying to resolve any of the numerous problems that your party (and labour) caused back home. Smh.
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  389.  @sgtben88hun17  Orban has received the ire of people like you specifically because he does stick by his principles. If he wanted to just save his skin he would have been a snivelling puppet like the rest of the EU leaders who are doing everything they can to have him removed.
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  390.  @Boppy-B-B  Lol, I didn't write Article 6: you're not bright enough to have this argument.
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  391. Sad Jabbit - a man so repulsive even his own hair deserted him.
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  392. Hey, Independent - I have a great new headline that will be just up your street: 'Covid Joins Forces with Global Warming and New Ice Age to End Humanity'. That should get you some clicks.
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  393. Exactly.
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  394. Lol.
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  395.  @ince55ant  Not true: anyone who gauges their own value based on how a scummy political elite view them is not living a life.
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  396. Moronic - everything you need to know about the new "variant".
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  397. We find you even more untrustworthy, boris.
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  398. Exactly. We tried to warn the people voting labour.
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  399. There was a time when the Independent would have reported what's really going on there. I miss those days, when I used to buy your paper - when the Independent really was independent.
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  400. The "left" and "right" wing of the same political class having a grand old laugh at our expense yet again.
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  401.  @beefy0978  My partner worked in one of the biggest hospitals in Ireland and it was so quiet during the - "pandemic" - that most of the staff were on furlough for over half a year. I know it was the same all over Ireland and England.
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  402. ​ @pepperroni6252  Lol, they must have had a lot of free time, so - and I don't think you understand how much time it actually takes to choreograph those dance routines that they were doing.
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  403. Misery Loves Company. Nobody wanted to spend New Years Eve with her.
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  404.  @YenkammaNe  Lol, too bad all these amazing talents didn't shine as chancellor.
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  405.  @wowsame6408  I was being sarcastic - that's why I added the 'Oh wait a sec" bit. I know she's an utterly useless puppet like the rest of them and nothing from the last few weeks came as any surprise. I would have expected exactly what happened.
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  406. Exactly.
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  407. More lies from the liars who turned the country upside down while they were breaking all their own unlawful rules and enriching themselves through big pharma contracts. If people are still listening to these snake oil salesmen and allowing their lives to be destroyed they really deserve the next illegal lockdown that these fakes are hoping for.
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  408.  @fufu1128  Thank you very much, fu fu. The worst thing about it all for me is that I knew, even back then, that these politicians and their friends were not following the rules themselves. I knew they were partying it up and laughing at us. My biggest sympathy goes to those who lost terminally ill children under those circumstances. At least my mother lived to a good age, I can't even fathom what the families of children who died in isolation are going through. Hopefully there will be lawsuits and cases when this is finally and publicly exposed as one of the biggest crimes and frauds ever perpetrated against human beings. Thank you for your thoughts. It's nice to know there are good people out there who will spare a thought for others, even complete strangers.
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  409.  @Lugermorph1497  Thank you, Snitchy Michy.
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  410. It was hotter than this in the 70s - I remember that decade very well: Oh, man - I really miss the days when the Independent was an actual credible news source - I used to buy it back then.
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  411. I've been following the conflict in Ukraine since 2014: the msm is not telling you the truth of what's really going on there. The Russians themselves asked for an independent investigation into the massacre, which, interestingly the UK blocked. I'm not going to make any claims other than to ask people to do their own research and to research the azov battalion which is operating in Ukraine. Patrick Lancaster is a reporter who has been on the frontlines there for 8 years now, I would strongly recommend people to at least check out his videos.
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  412. The real pity is that the Independent used to be a good news outlet. It was the only one that went against the Iraq WMD lie. Its a real pity seeing it slide into the same cesspool as the rest of the media.
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  413. The story is fake: it was put out in the hope that it would cause another 'jan 6' reaction.
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  414.  @stuartd9741  I don't know the specifics of that particular situation but I do know that Article 6 of UNESCO's Bioethics and Human Rights Act states that it is against International Law to force or coerce anyone to take a vaccine against their will. Any employer or govt depts that do this are breaking the law.
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  415.  @stuartd9741  No, it doesn't override, because there is no clause within Article 6 that allows it to be over-ridden: now if it stated "against International Law unless there is an emergency" it could be over ridden, but it's there in the legislation, it is against International Law, no exceptions: the Nuremberg Code states exactly the same: but the real problem is that too many people believe they have no rights and will talk themselves out of their rights: the 'truth movement' and alternative media have been absolutely disastrous in this regard.
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  416.  @stuartd9741  The problem is nobody has taken it to court and everyone seems to assume that they have no rights in this matter. This is why (in my opinion) The truth movement, alternative media and even conservative channels have been an absolute disaster in this respect because, instead of familiarising themselves with people's rights and informing them of what their rights are they have opted for whinging, pessimism and drama. One major court case would have ended this from the start. I believe the Nuremberg Code also prohibits the forcing or coercion of medicines/vaccines on people. Emergency legislation doesn't override those basic rights, but people are so indoctrinated to believe they have no rights that they will accept it. You can also see it in Facebook and twitter's banning of certain words and political opinions. Both of these are platforms, it is illegal for them to behave as publishers but no-one is sanctioning them or forcing them, by law, to choose whether they are 'platforms' or 'publishers' (both strict legal definitions): also you have people then complaining that our free speech is being taken away by them, when it's not: Facebook and twitter are only social media platforms - they're not in charge of free speech but people act as if they are. If there is no push back, these entities will carry on as they are going - and with the utter dereliction of alternative and conservative media regarding informing people of their rights, it'll be still going on for months to come.
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  417.  @davechabba8324  Thank you.
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  418.  @demeterontheinternet  You're so far gone I don't even know where to start. Everyone but the most half-witted knows Assange was lynched. BTW the charges were levelled against him because the condom burst, so you may want to actually go back and remind yourself of the actual case, instead of coming back as a man. They ween't "doxxed" - they were named: and I guess if you decide to get involved in ruining a man's life, it comes with territory. BTW he did answer: he said he didn't rp them - in fact they even said he didn't rp them. I feel bad for you.
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  419. Don't worry: they may try but the law is on our side on this one: Article 6 of UNESCO's Bioethics and Human Rights Act states that it is against International Law to force or coerce anyone into taking a vaccine against their will. If they try it they are open to serious court action and law suits. They'll be stopped. The main thing is people need to start familiarising themselves with their rights and I'm dismayed that the alternative media isn't doing this.
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  420. He's a sociopath with a script that has been handed to him by the people who control him in Whitehall - and their loyalties are not with this country.
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  421. Musk told a lot of home truths in a very simple way. If our career politicians did the same we wouldn't be in this mess. Two Tier Kier can only enflame, incite and create more chaos. He is attacking the British people.
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  422. Thank you. Also - Article 6 of UNESCO's Bioethics and Human Rights Act states that it is against International Law to force or coerce anyone to take a vaccine against their will. I've been trying to spread this message far and wide - for some reason the alternative media is not even telling their viewers and listeners about this.
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  423. Exactly. It's almost amusing watching these utterly worthless journalists getting so excited over two useless puppets who aren't going to make a blind bit of difference other than make things worse. But there again, the msm swims in the same cesspool.
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  424.  @therealking6202  On the contrary YOU don't know the difference. There is a documentary on youtube called 'Ukraine on Fire'. It tells the truth of what's really been going on there and why. I would very strongly advise you to watch it - or you could carry on just believing the same people who told you Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. I really would urge you to do some research on that war and what really happened there, but if you're too lazy to, Ukraine On Fire will give you a very good summary.
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  425. @ Its you who doesn't know the difference. I've been following that conflict since it really began in 2014 and you should really do your own research instead of listening to the same people who told you Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. You think they wouldn't lie to you again? Just do your own research instead of believing proven liars.
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