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Comments by "E V" (@ev1897) on "Vivek Ramaswamy - The Problem with the Department of Education" video.
So you think that problem is the 10% that comes from the federal government and not the 90% that come from the state and local funding? Does that even make any logical sense? I am all for revamping the system but why are we so confident that the state knows so much better? Let’s also compare this funding model with the best performing countries? Again the funding model is predominantly federal which has served them well. So what is the issue then? The US is one of the only countries in the world with a minimal standardize system. The closest is the SAT which is only for 2 subjects. Solving a 10% problem which is 0.05% of the National Budget is clearly for reasons other than educational. Prove me wrong.
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Federal funding is only about 10% of total funding for education so that states are already doing most of the damage already. How will stopping 10% make any difference? If you think the federal government is inefficient, how efficient do you think a state or local government is? I am all for efficiency but the project 2025 agenda here is clear. Please prove me wrong.
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There is a great saying, “in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is King.” Don’t be fooled by fast talking and spewing facts that can’t be verified. He is basically saying that the 10% of school funding that comes from the federal government is responsible for poor education and high costs in less advantaged school systems. Do you honestly think that is the case? Think about all the issues present in a low income disadvantaged district has? I do agree though that the education in the U.S. is far behind most of the top performing countries. Those countries by the way are countries with a predominately federal funding mechanism.
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@ problem is that unfortunately poorer less advantaged districts have a huge problem getting teachers in general and definitely not the best teachers. Nothing to do with the federal department but rather what is being done at a state and local level which especially for underserved areas is a tough job.
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@ZuluNinja exactly. What possible reason could there be for a school district not doing well despite the higher per student cause? Could it be possibly be their tasks are much harder than in wealthy districts? Difficulty finding good teachers who want to teach there or the greater need?
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@earth9531 ok got it. I don’t agree with your premise though. Getting the right structure and education can help people do better and be more prepared for the world. Just like in healthcare the U.S. outspends the rest of the world but is not even in the top 5 when it comes to standards of education.
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@ exactly. It is not about having enough Trump Bibles in school like in OK, it is not about 10% of general spending on education of which most goes towards special ed and FAFSA. Easy to just jump on the bandwagon of stop government spending. The reality is different.
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@brianomoli4 the constitution was never meant to be prescriptive about all of this. Most of the departments in government are actually not prescribe. I know this although I was educated in another country but it seems you don’t.
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In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.
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@ the way you have summarized the government department could also be summarize for state and local departments and that is where 90% of the funding is. Just looking at the numbers it just doesn’t make sense that 10% of the spending is causing 100% of the problem. To extrapolate your argument, why do we even need the state departments? Why don’t we take that 45% of the funding and put it into the local agencies? I am all for eliminating waste, but someone has to come up with a better plan than just cut something.
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@ it is only 10% anyway and I think the idea is that that goes directly to the states who are already not spending 90% properly.
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@ how is it socialist again? While you are proposing something interesting, you have not explained how it is a socialist agenda. Or is it socialist just because you don’t agree with it?
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@ which of the strings did you want to remove? Civil rights or special education? What is the evidence that the states or local bodies would manage it better?
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@ anything they do has to be approved by Congress. It is not even a government department. Just 2 people with no funding looking for people to work for them for free.
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@ exactly! Somehow magically when you put all the money into state and local government that solves all the problem? What kid of intelligent thinking is that? This is the problem with one sided interviews that Lex does. If Lex had the intelligence he would asked Vivek 1. Why is the 10% funding responsible for all the problems with education. 2. What is the evidence that local and state departments do a better job. 3. Why is the first focus of the new department of efficiency to tackle the department that is in charge of 0.05% of the budget instead of other agencies such as defence which continually struggle to pass audits, and are responsible for almost 15%. By his rationale then we should also put defence spending back to the state and local decision. Make no intelligent sense and everyone just believes it hook line and sinker.
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@ this where parents come in and state and local authorities will not do that as well unless the federal government mandates this.
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Civics are already taught in schools. I think the love of American doesn’t logically change the education system. Having high standards and students hello focus more on performing academically instead of sports does.
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@ think about it. When you need to force people to love something, I figure something is not right.
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@ don’t confuse what should be taught in schools as a solid foundation and what the U.S. needs to catch up with the rest of the world on and nice things to be taught after that. Many students struggle to even pass basic standardized tests to ensure minimum English and Math levels. The U.S. is not even in the top 5 in the world for these critical subjects.
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@ really? Can you show me the stats and link?
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@ taxes of course. What is your point? Where does the DOD or any other department get their money? If your point is that if it is from taxpayers then all of it should be managed by the state or locally then what about the other departments? You gotta talk some sense man.
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@ thank you for this I understand all of this. My question is that if the premise is that the Federal department is broken and that is why the school systems are under performing. My question is how does 10% of the budget do this vs 90% of the budget which is already under State and local school hands? It just doesn’t make sense. What exactly are we trying to fix here?
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@heatherharder1368 what isn’t being sent back to the states again? 90% of the budget is currently being managed by the state.
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@ 😂because the school is the best place to learn this. Meanwhile we are behind the rest of the world in terms of math and science.
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Tell me how in 4 years you are going to change something that will deliver results but is only responsible for 10% of the funding. 90% of the funding is from State and a local funding. It doesn’t even make any senseZ
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@ in fact he wants the best people to work for free for it. I wonder which group or highly intelligent people will work over 80hrs a week for no money for him? 😂
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@ what about it? Are you also going to apply it to all the other departments or will you just pick and choose?
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@ exactly we are looking at the efficiency of a department that is 0.05% of the budget and which 90% of the funding is managed in state instead of the department that is over 20% of the budgets but has failed 6 audits and can’t account for hundreds of millions of dollars. Oh wait, we have a Fox News host that is never done this before in his life doing this. Perfect! Guys when are you going to wake up and realize that this is all just a scam to convince voters that something is being done. The beauty of it all is that it is not even a government department it is a non governmental agency who is trying to hire people for free. That is the genius of it all! A big welcome mat for all the corporate lobbyists to come in an do what they want, and since it is non governmental, it doesn’t need to be subject to the same scrutiny and audits as other governmental agencies.
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@davida.taylor8444 yeah those 400 governmental contracts for Tesla will help! 😂
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@earth9531 because all the people in the state are the smartest people to do things. I wish it was true but the reality is different.
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@meomeomeomeow I wonder why they don’t want to focus on the department that has failed 7 audits in a row and yet spends almost a trillion dollars and increasing every year?
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@ really? Maybe you should check how things out in Asia where there is a culture that values education, learning and hard work. It is not a surprise that the top 5 math and science countries are Asian and the U.S. is not even in the top 15.
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@ really? Look it up yourself and prove me wrong. I dare you!
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@ in fact if you are a honest person and a Christian you should reply and share the facts otherwise you are breaking one of the 10 commandments which is being a false witness!
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I salute the obviously great job you did but I think you are not suggesting that all Americans can manage home schooling kids? Also I see very few modern versions of high performing leaders in their field who were home schooled. In fact on the best performing countries in the world this is also not the case.
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@rachelpops9239 yeah this seems like the best way to compete with countries that already beat us in most subjects.
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@ what is the proof that the state will handle things better than the federal agencies? Has that been proven in any way?
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@Liberty-Vault as usual the Republican lie and their uneducated voters have no clue. The federal government in most cases has no authority to compel a state to teach anything and they are usually focussed on 1. Funding and special assistance such as Title 1, 2. Civil rights enforcement 3. Research and data collection 4. Special programs and 5. Policy decision s such as focusing on Stem. The only reason republicans want to remove the department is that it is the easiest to remove and they can score brownie points with their voters by saying no more teaching of CRt etc, which they never did anyway. It is just a sham as usual but most voters are not educated on this. Prove me wrong.
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@ why?
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@ why? He just talked about if nonsense that is t even why the Federal government does. Explain why he is correct.
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@ explain exactly why you think the 10% funding is the problem and not the 90% funding?
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@ what is the evidence that States will manage it better, also what do you think the aim should be considering most top performing countries who are beating the U.S. in education currently manages this at a Federal level.
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@ isn’t that already happening? 90% of the budget is in the state.
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@ I am sorry but this power is already there and rests with the state and local departments. The government cannot do this. Where do you see that the government can push for laws? Most of the measly 10% the government controls is focussed on FAFSA and Special Education.
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@ this discrepancy is already there. Look at most of the southern states in terms of education levels and you will see that. Maybe what Vivek wants to do is to do away with a centralized way of seeing who is performing better. That way we can never compare.
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@ also Defence
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@lindacogswell7469 sounds like what they teach in communist countries.
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@ isn’t it already taught in schools? It is in the blue states for sure.
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The real question is when is it best to manage anything in the state vs federally? Why don’t we put everything in the states eg Defence and IRS? Why have the federal government do anything if the state does it so much better? Maybe because the state government does a worse job in general?
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@ really? Can you show me the stats and link? Happy to be proven wrong but I doubt it. Show me how we are the best in the world apart from Higher education.
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@ why? I am still trying to find facts that back you up? Do you have a good example where this has worked?
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@ yeah let any voice be heard but it has to make sense. Explain why a 10% funding is causing all the problems and not the 90%? Also what is the objective standard to see if even the state and local budgets are being managed right?
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@ well said. We are too insular in the US. We think what we do is always the best and never even bother checking if someone is doing it better with some exceptions. Standards are slipping generally. Even in states like Massachusetts which is renowned for its education standards,they just voted overwhelmingly for not making standardized test compulsory for high school graduation. The reality is that putting the standards of education to a mostly less learned population is a recipe for failure. You already see this clearly in our best schools. Post of the post graduates are not from the U.S.
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@ why are you so confident that that is when the downfall started? What policies specifically started this? Again like I keep saying, if you are looking at 10% of the budget responsible for 100% of the product, you are probably not looking in the right place.
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