Comments by "" (@kimsland999) on "Daily Mail World"
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@alleocedricka.coronel5145 Whilst you've had a number of replies already, what hasn't been stated is the physics of the situation.
At 4kms below the ocean the pressure that would be emitted onto a human body if they suddenly popped into that space (for instance exiting a pressurized tank through a hull breach) would be similar to the entire empire state building (in weight) suddenly upon you (really from every direction, as the density or pressure is not just above you it exists all around the pressurized water, thus all around the person).
A sudden impact of such pressure would squash the person completely, as much as a container would literally crush into itself (implode) so would a human body. I suspect it would feel like (if your brain had time to analyse it) a huge meteorite directly hitting you. There would be nothing left but complete flatness. Although since its from all sides (in a pressurized volume of water) you wouldn't just be instantly flat, you'd also be squashed smaller from all directions.
Some body parts may survive. This is because the pressure inside those parts would match the pressure outside. For instance: A bone or muscle etc. may not be squashed flat, if there were enough time to allow the pressurized water to get in first. But its not like any sealed human body part could withstand that pressure without protection.
Subnote: Deep sea divers go though a depressurization (or rather: pressurizing) over time (slowly descending) which enables them to survive. But if they suddenly popped up out of these depths without slowly depressurizing, then their internal pressure would likely kill them.
Water pressure at kms down, is a difficult equation, it is about PSI, pounds per square inch of your body, but depends upon length, motion, upright or position, internal pressure, buoyancy (acting against pressure) etc etc etc. To calculate the exact fine tuned perfect calculation of what pressure these individuals instantly received? We say: About the pressure of the empire state building on top of you.
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@MissLadyLynnette Yes I know the formula or maths equations exist, but PSI has a number of external factors to negotiate with, I mean the ocean (and vessel) is not a perfect measurement. I already mentioned it depends upon lots of factors, motion of vessel and underwater currents, shape, buoyancy, even the direction it was travelling (was it 30 degrees? 90 degrees straight down?) there are too many factors to get an exact: Oh its exactly 6000 psi on the hull. No it isn't, it could be 6,500 on one side, and 5,500 underneath, it could be a whole range of differences.
If we were speaking of a static object sitting on a workbench and then adding the same weight of water density onto it, then yes an exact science can happen (or close to). But not when there are so many factors happening. I mean even the material used was elastic, it may reduce the 6,000 down to 1/2 that, who knows.
If you get run over on the road pretty sure your bones will squash or crack, but if you are on a trampoline with the exact same psi pressure on you, maybe you'll survive. (although in the case of underwater the weight doesn't run you over it just remains).
I love maths and science and all things like that (ie physics). But this is unknown territory, I doubt any mathematician will confidently say, oh it was exactly 6,000 psi on the hull.
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@james2479 When writing a lot, many things can be contested.
The fact of the matter not everything so far down turns into 'slither of gel ' The reason for this (as I previously stated) if the inside and outside are at the same pressure then clearly they don't become a slither of gel. You'll notice even remnants on the Titanic itself, such as a chandelier still hangs up waving in the water, as do the floorboards and many other things. These things are not obliterated due to the equal amount of pressure inside and out.
That obliteration of body parts (that you must be referring to) is due to a sudden impact of pressure. If it was say a slow descending ship, then many things won't crumble up, and this is how artifacts from the Titanic have been discovered. Did you know mere fragile weak bottles of wine were found on the Titanic by oceanographers? Why didn't they implode, you may ask? Because IF the outside and inside is at the same pressure, then they will be fine.
Whilst of course I agree a sudden impact implosion (as ( stated they popped into that environment) would clearly obliterate them. As for being eaten, I'm unsure what fish are down there, without easily looking it up, I'd wild guess and say next to nothing!
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@BillieLuv Money does help.
Whilst it would have to be the worst thing ever if your child dies (and partner at the same time) the point is money can provide support beyond what others (most others) have access to.
When my Mom died she willed all her money, house, car, belongings to her 85yo boyfriend (so that's called). But at the same time I was on the brink of homelessness. My parents had been willed money by their parents, which enabled them to buy a house at the beach! Whilst they weren't mega rich, they had a fully paid off house, brand new car, and lots of expensive items throughout the house.
Us kids were extremely close to Mom (who was last to go). Our relationship built off love and respect. Clearly Xmas time and other times throughout the year we'd all meet up (usually at my Mom's house) for such occasions. Being never money hungry to my parents, my particular life was generally poor, renting in a tiny box unit on a busy road (as they are cheaper) with an unsafe old car. Clearly I knew I was under average, well under, and this through unforeseen circumstances in my life (that's another story).
When my Mom being my last parent died, she willed us grown adult children zero.
About 3 months (could have been less) I became homeless, literally living in parks etc.
This went on for an entire year, until I finally was able to get a (horribly hard) job again, and live in a share house.
This experience, up to present, made it extremely difficult for me. Whilst it was saddening my parents were gone, each day for me was survival (by the way I use to like lightning storms, but for people living in parks its extremely scary, of all the lack of food, coldness, alone, and horror stories, really lightning nights were the worst, since I had zero protection, no roof over my head.
Money does help. It provides a stable safe environment, healthy foods, warmth and comfort. It gives you mobility to get away and come back, it clearly helps in coping in such a horrific event of family death. I had none of this.
Mom knew my position, I don't understand her complete about face, plus her 85yo bf, was wealthy already! It caused me to be very angry and frustrated on many nights, my sadness turned to hate.
Clearly this woman (and condolences to her, it would be horrible for her) doesn't have the extra burden that I had and most people have merely trying to survive. Yes money helps.
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