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Comments by "sandgrownun66" (@sandgrownun66) on "How a 1000 years of our legal history was cast aside, just because of the Stephen Lawrence case" video.
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@lesley1174 There's a saying, that if you want to get out of a hole, then maybe, it's better to stop digging. Of course the use of a Knighthood ends when the holder dies. However, the honorific title remains, when referring to that person.
"If it was still alive Cameron was going to set the procedure in process to strip it of the title." So you've just answered the question by contradicting yourself. If he was still alive when the revelations came out. Then Cameron could have removed his title. However, he wasn't, so the current prime Minister couldn't. There are several dozen people in the twentieth century alone, , who were honoured by a British Monarch. Who subsequently had titles they conferred removed. If you want their names. I can give them. Some examples are, Harvey Weinstein, Benito Mussolini, Anthony Blunt, Kim Philby, Ernest Brooks, Robert Mugabe, Naseem Hamed, Roger Casement, James Crosby, Jean Else, Rolf Harris, Vicky Price, Lester Piggott, Stuart Hall and others.
In 2012, the Cabinet Office confirmed that there was no knighthood to revoke in Savile's case. Former Prime Minister David Cameron raised the prospect of Savile being posthumously stripped of the honour in the wake of the allegations of sexual abuse against young girls. However, a Cabinet Office spokesman said: "It's a living order and then you cease to be a member when you die. "There isn't an honour to revoke." Savile would have been stripped of his knighthood if his crimes were exposed during his lifetime. The Forfeiture Committee said: "The Forfeiture Committee can confirm that had James Wilson Vincent Savile been convicted of the crimes of which he is accused, forfeiture proceedings would have commenced." Knighthoods can only be held by a living person and fall away after their death, so they cannot be removed once the person has died.
So there you have it. You can even check the Wikipedia article, about Sir Jimmy Savile. He will forever be referred to as Sir Jimmy Savile, whether you like it or not.
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@lesley1174 You don't learn, or give up do you? The title can only be rescinded, whilst the person is living. If they die first, the title still stays associated with there name. If those responsible, had removed his title before he died, then it would have been plain old Jimmy Savile. However, they didn't. So he's officially recorded as Sir Jimmy Savile. The same as with any other deceased Knight of the Realm. Such as Sir Isaac Newton, Sir Winston Churchill, Sir Charles Chaplin, Sir John Gielgud, Sir Alec Guinness, Sir Bruce Forsyth. The list of dead Knights, goes on. Also, don't expect the Wikipedia article about Sir Jimmy Savile to change anytime soon, because whoever wrote it, is aware of the rules in respect to this, and is following them. The bottom line is that you can protest all you like, but there's nothing you or anyone else, can do about it. So just learn to accept, and live with it. You have no choice in the matter.
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