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@ericseitzler81 I probably know more about your old book, than most of those who pretend to believe in it. That's usually the way it is. It's because those who believe in reason, logic, and facts to determine truth. Tend to do their research.
Of course, the unknown men (women were kept illiterate), who wrote the book were ignorant. All people a couple of thousand years ago knew almost nothing about the world and their surroundings. It wasn't their fault. They just didn't know any better.
Darwin worked on his theory of evolution for several decades, before publishing his evidence. This was just a century and a half ago. This was already in the post-enlightenment era, where great advances had been made in the field of science. Since then his theory has been tested and improved upon constantly, and will always be, as new facts are uncovered. Still after all this. Darwin's theory still holds true. Along with Newton, his theory of evolution are probably the greatest contributions to the advancement of knowledge in human history.
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@stu7161 I have no idea what you're on about, dude. Dawkins would make his assessment based on the evidence.
"There is no point in presenting to you evidence of something you've already convinced yourself cannot possibly exist".
Wrong, provide the evidence, and I will have no option but to accept it. The problem is that this god-bothering thing is de@d in the water. In the 100,000 years since modern humans have existed. Not one person has been able to provide one single piece of evidence for the existence of gods, which eventually became one god. However, in the case of the Nazarene is now three, or is that one? It's also not a case of not trying, as many have spent their life in pursuit of it. There's also a big incentive in it. Imagine suddenly being the most famous person in the World, and all the praise you'd get. Maybe, there'd even be a Nobel Prize in it as well. Until then, I'll leave them to their quest. Let's just say that I'll believe it when I see it.
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@Kendro311 So you can't be moral without religion, can you? People who don't believe in fairy tales, do just fine.
What about the 96% of human existence before modern religions were made up. How did the human race survive all that time?
It would be beneficial, if religion had not been made by men (no women of course). As humans are imperfect and biased, and so are the old religious books they came up with.
The old testament was written for a small tribe of people, and if you didn't fit in that group, then the rules didn't apply to you, and you were a second-class citizen.
This old book sanctioned genocide, slavery and the abuse of women and girls.
Even in the new testament, jc supports slavery, by stating that not a jot or tittle of the original covenant shall be changed, and that his coming were the fulfilment of it.
All religions have been in conflict with other religions at some time, and the resultant death toll is too high to count.
The sooner religion is consigned to the dustbin of history the better for the whole of humankind.
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@Kendro311 "there's just too much to life and existence to think it wasn't by design." All the common arguments that life was somehow designed, have all been comprehensively debunked.
We are probably lucky, that the character of jc was essentially a hippy, who preached peace, and love and never killed anyone, or sinned.
That at least, gave any cultures adopting it ,the chance to grow away from it, as there was no penalty for apostasy. Unlike some other religion, we could mention.
God seems to be playing the biggest game of hide and seek in history, to the point that he/she/it might as well be invisible. This being rather odd, considering the he/she/it, is meant to be the creator of the universe, and the most powerful entity, within it.
Therefore, what is the point in believing something, that there's no evidence for. It makes no logical sense.
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@aeternafortuna1644 God-botherers can't disprove evolution, even if they tried. For starters, they're ignorant of science, and the use of logic, reason and facts to determine truth.
Modern humans have existed for about 100,000 years. Isn't it odd how this supposed god only became interested in giving these so-called prophets, or should that be profits, what was on his/her/its mind, only about 3,000 years ago. That's in the last 3% of human existence, and just like buses, three come along one after the other. Where was this supposed god, the previous 97% of the time. You can smell the BS a mile away.
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@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 You're welcome. If you know the difference, your responsibility is to use them correctly.
90wpm? Most commenters on this site struggle to put a coherent, grammatically correct sentence together.
Prayer has been proven in several controlled studies, not to have any positive effect, except in the heads of those who think it does. People who don't engage in such activity, have just as much success, and luck, as those who don't. It's not as though prayer is all going to the same place. Each religion is praying to their own version of a supreme being or beings. So who's doing it right. Or maybe, they're all wrong. Why not just believe in one less religion than they do?
Why do you assume that my rejection of religion was because I was "hurt" at some time. How about that it never occured to me that their was any god to submit to. There was nothing that ever disproved this position either. Indeed, nobody in history has been able to prove that any supreme being exists. Therefore, why waste time worshipping something that at best is invisible, and thus has no effect on your surroundings. Secondly, I was never indoctrinated into religion at any point in my childhood, like many people are. I just made my decision on the lack of evidence around me. The only reason people are a certain religion, anyway, is due to where they were born. If you're born in the US, you will be a Christian, and in India, a Hindu. So what's the point, if you might be backing the wrong horse?
Why do I need to submit to a higher power, to be happy. Especially when there's no evidence for it.
Over three million children die of starvation every year. Children who will never grow and have kids of their own. Why would an all powerful god, just sit and watch, and do nothing to stop this? There are only two conclusions. Either that god is an uncaring monster, who doesn't care about his/her/its creations. Or he/she/it does not exist. Which of those two options, do you subscribe to?
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@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 The third option is a convenient cop-out, by god-botherers to attempt to provide an excuse, as to why evil exists in the World.
I don't buy the explanation, as to why a god would be so apathetic about his/her/its creation.
This is particularly true of the Abrahamic religions, which see humans as special creations, made in the image of that god. In one of them, god supposedly even sent his son, to show how much he/she/it cared for his creation.
The argument that we need religion, otherwise kids will join gangs, doesn't hold weight. Religious indoctrination has its negatives too. For one, it stifles free-thinking, and makes people think in an irrational manner. Subscribing to believes which in no way comport with reality. You can teach children good values, without filling their heads with thousands years old nonsense. The bible condones genocide, slavery and the abuse of women and girls. Luckily, in spite of these immoral teachings, people only pay lip-service to them. And if you reject these parts, why not reject the whole lot?
As you will guess, I also think homeopathy is a fraud. Since when is less, more?
I watched nearly every James Randi (with an "i"), video on the internet. He busted the so-called psychics, prosperity preachers, and other assorted fraudsters. My favourite was when Johnny Carson and him, punked celebrity bender Uri Geller on the Tonight Show. When Geller made the excuse that he "wasn't feeling strong tonight". That should have been the end of his career, but people like him have a habit of keeping their grift going. Although, with the internet, it's easy to see through their lies, if you can be bothered to be sceptical.
As to some higher power being out there. I choose to believe it, when I see it. And if that's when it's too late, then tough.
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@southernparadise9896 "but without God, science would be unnecessary." What have you been smoking? We need science whether there is a god, or no god. How else are we going to explain the World around us, and its origin.
Your old book, has no information of any value, to assist us in answering these questions.
Do you think the electronic equipment, you used to write your comment, came out of thin air, from some invisible being? No, it took centuries of human effort to develop the technology, you take for granted today.
If you relied on the information contained in your old book, you'd still be in a cave somewhere, scratching a living to survive.
Do you think a scientists spend part of their day, thinking about god, and whether that god approves of what they're doing? Of course not. There is zero need for religion in inventing a new technology. God is irrelevant to the study of science.
Finally, why do you assume your supposed god is male. Could it be that women were treated as second-class citizens, by the men who invented what's in your old book?
Also, why do you people always have only one book. Maybe, you should go to a library sometime. There you will find thousands of books. Trying reading some of their extensive range of books on science and technology. You might actually learn something of value.
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@phyllisvanhuss1190 "God gave free will so we are able to choose how we live our lives." Ah, yes. A convenient cop out and get out clause, to try and explain why your supposed god, apparently, doesn't give a phuq about his/her/its creation. All that effort, to just sit back and watch it all go to cr@p. Why not just get it right next time, instead of having to do a couple of reboots, because you cocked it up first time. So much for a perfect all knowing god!
However, there is a more logical reason, why your god is invisible. I wonder if you can guess what it is?
As for god's part human, part god hybrid, jc. Who thought that one up? It's a bit like the sequel, that tries to fill the plot holes, that were forgotten first time around.
Whomever came up with the jc character, should have been told that it was a bad idea, by the rest of the group responsible for formulating the new part of the old book. However, for some reason, he had is way, and they ran with it.
Finally, the story of the crucifiction and resurrection. When jc had a sh1tty weekend, by topping himself in the most pointless suicide in history. Makes no sense whatsoever.
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@lupinsredjacket3191 "God calls Himself "He" multiple times throughout Scripture."
How convenient. I wonder if they tossed a coin on that one? No, of course they didn't.
At the time, men ran the show, and only a few of them had been taught to be literate. So it's hardly surprising, that they made god male. Why wouldn't they? Men were thought as superior to women then. So why wouldn't the supposedly most powerful being in the universe, be male too?
The bible was fabricated and written by ignorant, middle eastern goat herders, who didn't know any better. Although, you pretend that was god, who wrote it, and in the first person.
When we tell stories of what we did, we use first person (as in “I drove…”). When we tell stories about others, we use third person (as in “she drove…”). And there are two variations of third person perspective
limited (restricted to what only one character can see or know) and
omniscient (knowing everything, like God).
In days of old, writers used third-person omniscient. The bible does this all the time.
For example, how was Jonah aware that the seas calmed down after the sailors tossed him into the water (Jonah 1:15)? Or when Philip left the Ethiopian eunuch, how did he know the eunuch went on his way (Acts 8:39)?
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@jdthemighty "You should be ashamed of yourself by just spouting some crap you don't know about". I wasn't even talking about you. I was simply stating the facts, that many American conservatives, want to see a complete ban on abortion in any circumstance. I have my view of this, and obviously so do you.
"we could have been friends but we just found out who and what your about." (It's you're). Could we have been friends? The chances are slim, considering this is just a video-sharing site, and we know nothing about each other. It was you who chose to share things about your life here. Therefore it's hardly surprising when you get a response. And just what am I about? I was just making an observation, on the way many Americans in particular view issues like abortion.
In the UK for example, The Abortion Act 1967 sought to clarify the law in Britain. And subject to heated debate, it allowed for legal abortion on a number of grounds up to twenty-four weeks, with the added protection of free provision through the National Health Service. And that was the end of the matter, and the law still stands today. Instead, in the US, you still have a conflict over the women's right to bodily autonomy, five decades after Roe vs Wade. It just doesn't make any sense.
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