Comments by "TheFlat EarthTruth" (@TheWokeFlatEarthTruth) on "How did Apollo deal with the Van Allen radiation belts ?" video.

  1. Hi m, hope that you are well. You are conflating heat and temperature, they are not the same thing. The Van Allen Belts may have particles that have a very high velocity, therefore a very high temperature but as there are relatively few of them the overall heat that they contain is small and they can not transfer heat energy to a spacecraft in any significant amounts. Take care.
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  2. The particles of a gas are constantly moving and the temperature of a gas is a measure of the average kinetic energy of its particles. The particles that make up the Van Allen Belts have a very high velocity so by definition have a very high temperature. However the particles in the VAB's are very spread out so density of particles in the VAB's is very, very low (millions of times lower than air at sea level) so the overall heat energy that they contain is very small. So for a spacecraft travelling through this region of space there will be relative few particles colliding with it and these few particles will be too few to transfer any great amount of energy to the craft. In short the VAB's are a region of space with a very high temperature but a very low amount of heat energy. Take care.
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  3. Do you mean the Apollo astronaut who was asked several decades later by a known liar, fraud and conspiracy theorists about his time in Skylab who then edited it to make it appear that he had been asked about Apollo? Seriously, do better.
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  4. Do you want to try again? This time with the truth.
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  5. NASA have never said any such thing. Do you want to try again and this time speak the truth? Take care.
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  6. I am sure that you have lots of credible and reliable evidence to back up your claim and that you will share it with us and not just "post & ghost". Take care.
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  7. Heat and Temperature are not the same thing. The VAB's are a region of space where there are very few particles. These few particles are moving at high speed so by definition they have a high temperature but because there are so few particles per unit volume, the VAB's contain very little heat energy. Take care.
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  8. The Apollo Program is over and the Apollo technology is no longer being funded or built. How exactly does that cause an issue for you? Also can you explain using basic engineering and scientific principles what exactly is the problem with any of the Apollo spacecraft? Take care.
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  9.  @fiat2496  So you make claims but can not back them up with evidence or you can not even begin to discuss in specifics anything about any of the Apollo spacecraft. Can you explain using basic engineering and scientific principles what exactly is the problem with any of the Apollo spacecraft? Take care.
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  10.  @fiat2496  You made that claim that the spacecraft was "ridiculous looking" and "absurd". Now you can not back these claims up with reasoned points or any actual evidence. Take care.
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  11.  @fiat2496  It is a claim that you made and now are unable to back up with evidence so instead you deflect. Take care.
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  12. NASA's current challenge in relation to the Van Allen Belts and the Atriums Program is that modern electronics are far more susceptible to radiation damage than the electronics used in the Apollo era. NASA have to test thoroughly the guidance and navigation systems in the Orion spacecraft before attempting a crewed mission. Take care.
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  13. Temperature and Heat Energy are not the same thing. Do some study on the meaning of these terms and also on the number of particles per unit volume in the Van Allen Belts and you will have learnt something. Take care.
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  14.  @TSGWPG  Thank you for your reply. " I am not going to teach you a science class"...That is very fortunate as you clearly do not have the slightest knowledge or understanding of radiation in general or the radiation contained in the Van Allen Belts in particular. Hint: "simple Xrays" are not involved. Take care.
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  15.  @TSGWPG  You wrote; "People have never been able to get through them," The Van Allen Belt's are only a problem if you stay within the denser regions for an extended period of time. Here are the words of Dr. James Van Allen himself, the man after whom the belts are named and the man who advised NASA during the Apollo Program: "The outbound and inbound trajectories of the Apollo spacecraft cut through the outer portions of the inner belt and because of their high speed spent only about 15 minutes in traversing the region and less than 2 hours in traversing the much less penetrating radiation in the outer radiation belt. The resulting radiation exposure for the round trip was less than 1% of a fatal dosage – a very minor risk among the far greater other risks of such flights. I made such estimates in the early 1960s and so informed NASA engineers who were planning the Apollo flights. These estimates are still reliable. The claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense." Dr. James A. Van Allen.
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  16. Any your evidence is?
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  17. "it was impossible for the crew of the ascensing craft to remotely control the ......camera left on the moon"...No one has ever claimed that they did so why are you saying this? Take care.
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  18. Nope. I think that what you actually mean is that one particular astronaut was asked about the Van Allen Belts several decades after the Apollo Missions by a known liar, fraud and reality denier who then highly edited the footage. Take care.
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  19. Here are the words of Dr. James Van Allen himself: "The outbound and inbound trajectories of the Apollo spacecraft cut through the outer portions of the inner belt and because of their high speed spent only about 15 minutes in traversing the region and less than 2 hours in traversing the much less penetrating radiation in the outer radiation belt. The resulting radiation exposure for the round trip was less than 1% of a fatal dosage – a very minor risk among the far greater other risks of such flights. I made such estimates in the early 1960s and so informed NASA engineers who were planning the Apollo flights. These estimates are still reliable. The recent Fox TV show, which I saw, is an ingenious and entertaining assemblage of nonsense. The claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense." Dr. James A. Van Allen.
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  20. First you need to understand that Temperature and Heat Energy are not the same thing. The VAB's do contain some particles with a very high velocity and therefore by definition a very high temperature. However there are very few of these particles per unit volume so the overall amount of heat energy that is contained is very little and there are fare too few particles to transfer any meaningful amount of heat energy to any passing spacecraft. Take care.
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  21.  @ann_onn  Just for the record, the temperatures mentioned are broadly correct however you can be sure that no conspiracy video would have mentioned that there are very, very few particles in the Van Allen Belts with these temperatures and also that Heat and Temperature are not the same thing. Take care.
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  22. ​ @Jesse-u2h  The difference between Heat (which is a form of Energy) and Temperature (which is a measure of hotness and is proportional to the energies of the particles) is a very basic concept in Physics and is taught and understood by school children in most countries. The VAB's do contain some particles with a very high velocity and therefore by definition a very high temperature. However there are very few of these particles per unit volume so the overall amount of heat energy that is contained is very little and there are far too few particles to transfer any meaningful amount of heat energy to any passing spacecraft. Take care.
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  23. "Evidence of faked moon landings is overwhelming"......Yet you are not able to produce any. "Van Allen Belt conundrum".......There isn't any conundrum. They passed through this region of space at high velocity and in a short time. Take care.
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  24. Yes, that is totally correct. The effect of radiation on the human body depends on a number of factors and one of the main ones is duration of exposure. Take care.
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  25.  @jaymonkey699  I am sure that you have lots of credible and reliable evidence to back up your claim and that you will share it with us. Take care.
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  26.  @jaymonkey699  "good old facts would tell you we haven't walked on the moon".......Such as???
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  27. So what exactly does dust do in a vacuum, does it swirl, form clouds and cover things or does it move away following parabolic trajectories because there is nothing to stop it? Take care.
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  28. The Space Shuttles were not capable of going to the moon The Apollo Program when to the moon 9 times and the belts are called the Van Allen. Your basic knowledge is on a par with your ability to locate the Caps Lock button on your keyboard. Take care.
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  29.  @fiat2496  Dictionary: Opinion: a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.............. You know, you may be right. You have given no facts and you certainly have not shown any knowledge. Take care.
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  30.  @eventcone  "No spacecraft was ever subjected to those temperatures"....Just for the record, yes they were but there are so few particles in the Van Allen Belts at these temperatures that there was no meaningful transfer of Heat Energy to any passing spacecraft. I calculate that the total mass of the Van Allen Belts is a few grams at most. They are regions of high temperature but very little overall energy. Take care.
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  31. @ "A negligible amount of mass = a negligible amount of heat"...absolutely correct and only a very small fraction of this mass would be interacting with a passing spacecraft at any one time anyway.
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  32. What specifically is not factual?
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  33. The Van Allen Belts contain very little heat energy (per unit volume). Take care.
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  34. ​ @honestaussie5747  Thank you for your reply. You seem to be verging very close to the "I do not understand so it must be fake" line of thinking. The filming of the lift-off of the Ascent stage of the Lunar Module from lunar surface was taken using the Westinghouse TV camera mounted on the LRV. The upward tilt of the camera was controlled by Ed Fendell in Mission Control, Houston. The distance from camera to LM and the rate of ascent of the LM were known in advance so all Ed had to do was move a rheostat at certain rate starting at a predetermined time in the countdown. He had to allow for a communications time delay of about 2.5 seconds and a motor reaction time of 0.9 seconds. This was not attempted " for each and every apollo mission" as you suggest just for the Apollo 15, 16 and 17 missions. The first 2 attempts failed for various reasons but Apollo 17 worked quite well. Take care.
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  35.  @honestaussie5747  You have made the claim that it is "fake" yet produced zero evidence to back that claim up. Take care.
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  36.  @tvdylan  Here are the words of Dr. James Van Allen himself: "The outbound and inbound trajectories of the Apollo spacecraft cut through the outer portions of the inner belt and because of their high speed spent only about 15 minutes in traversing the region and less than 2 hours in traversing the much less penetrating radiation in the outer radiation belt. The resulting radiation exposure for the round trip was less than 1% of a fatal dosage – a very minor risk among the far greater other risks of such flights. I made such estimates in the early 1960s and so informed NASA engineers who were planning the Apollo flights. These estimates are still reliable. The recent Fox TV show, which I saw, is an ingenious and entertaining assemblage of nonsense. The claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense." Dr. James A. Van Allen.
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  37. Nope, someone has been telling you lies. Try again. Speak truth. Take care.
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  38.  @fiat2496  So why do you not back up what you say with evidence and explain in scientific and engineering terms and principles what is wrong with any of the Apollo spacecraft the would have prevented them achieving their mission? Why is it always claims with moon-landing deniers but never any actual evidence or even demonstrations of knowledge of the topic? Take care.
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  39. Basically Temperature and Heat Energy are not the same thing. The VAB's do contain some particles with a very high velocity and therefore by definition a very high temperature. However there are very few of these particles per unit volume so the overall amount of heat energy that is contained is very little and there are fare too few particles to transfer any meaningful amount of heat energy to any passing spacecraft. Take care.
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  40.  @chrisking6874  "why then not use the Apollo technology rather than modern electronics"........Are you seriously suggesting that they should use obsolete technology from half a century ago that is no longer being manufactured and is in now way compatible with current systems? Using modern electronics is a challenge not an insurmountable obstacle. You will be happy to know that the Orion spacecraft successfully passed through the VAB's twice in its 25 day test flight in December 2022. Try to keep up to date with reality. Take care.
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  41.  @eventcone  Thank you for your reply. Further to my original comment I have delved into the research and found that the total mass of the VAB's is actually less that 1 g. Take care.
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  42. Hi RR, hope that you are well. You wrote "electrons....can be blocked by a sheet of paper" Wouldn't it depend on their energies? Beta particles are certainly not stopped by a sheet of paper. Take care.
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  43.  @rsrt6910  Hi again RR, thank you for your reply. I totally agree with your statement that "The aluminum skin of the Apollo CM is more than adequate protection from beta radiation of most energies" but I find it hard to understand where you are coming from when you write "beta radiation ......can be stopped by a sheet of paper". Perhaps you meant alpha particles? Take care.
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  44.  @TSGWPG  So serious question: Do you actually think that talking the stupid is an adequate substitute for actual knowledge and understanding? Take care.
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  45.  @TSGWPG  Well have you actually done anything else than talk the stupid. You made a claim about "misinformation" and over a week and many comments later you have not even attempted to back it up. Take care.
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