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@HScarlet that wont work
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@ first, israel abandoned gaza in 05. pulled every jewish person out of there. they effectively had a state and an election then they bombed israel. second, the palestinians want israel to not exist. they want all of the land, not some of it. they will keep doing oct 7th, as they have said themselves, until they accomplish this. so a Palestinian state only works if there is no israel. what does the charter of hamas say they want to do to the jews?
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@ yt is deleting comments. lovely. what are the borders of this Palestinian state? what are the borders of israel?
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@HScarlet besides the point? it is the point. you advocate for a state but wont say where the boundaries are? you know the Palestinians, generally.- and hamas certainly- dont want israel to exist?
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@HScarlet "israel will exists and continue to exist until islam will obliterate it" where is that from?
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@HScarlet your point is that if the Palestinians get a state things will be fine. how is that going to work when the Palestinians believe god tells them all of current Israeli land actually belongs to them and that god wants them to unalive the jews?
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@HScarlet the palestinians elected them with a platform the has rocks and trees crying out for their unailving.. do you know where that part comes from? you dont believe hamas would unalive the jews when its plainly written in their charter? that bit i posted earlier about obliterating Iseral is literally the second paragraph of the charter.
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@HScarlet do you know why they have always rejected very offer to share the land? they believe any land that once was conquered by islam belongs to islam forever, even if they lose it. thats not my opinion.
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@alanhat5252 you are aware there is no country called palestine?. and israel is certainly a country with borders, currently in that 'river to the sea' location.
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@alanhat5252 i haven't posted anything about article 2. i have said the second paragraph refers to islam obliterating israel, you may be thinking of article 7. the end of which contains a hadith about the rocks and trees. read that.
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@alanhat5252 a couple of htings- great britain took over this land 100 years ago. they didnt want it. they offered to divide it to create a Palestinian state and a jewish state. the jews accepted while the Palestinians and surrounding countries did not. they attacked and lost. generally when you atttack and lose, you lose land. in this case. land was given back to the aggressors in exchange for peace. gaza was owned by egypt. they dont want it. israel pulled every jewish person out of there in 05 and turned it over to the Palestinians. there have been half a dozen offers to share the land by israel but none have been accepted. do you know why that is? i posted the reason yesterday. or the day before above.
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@ great britian offered to split the land between the two parties. Israel has offered half a dozen times to share the land. the Palestinians have rejected every offer. as far as stolen land, who do you think built the temple mount?
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@ hi spam. how are you? i have two questions.- who built the temple mount? and what does the charter of hamas say they want to do to the jews? thank you.
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@ what have i lied about? the charter of hamas say they want to unalive the jews. they cite a religious text where god tells them to do this themselves. the second paragraph says islam will obliterate israel. and the jews bult the temple mount. you said israel was not their country. but at some point it was, no?
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@HScarlet it wasnt their land anymore. they lost it to great britain as land has changed hands thorughout the entirety of history. the only difference here is that when a country wins land in conflict, they usually keep it. GB was generous to offer anything back to anyone. so, the arab countries declared war, and lost again. and yet they keep complaining.
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@HScarlet there has never been a country called Palestine.
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@HScarlet compare muslim treatment of jews and christians in muslim countrries to jewish treatment of muslims in israel. dhimmi
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@HScarlet hold on a sec. yesterday you said 'i dont believe thats what hamas would do', meaning unalive the jews. the charter- those are their words. and that event from 15 months ago was the biggest unaliving of these people since ww2. what so you mean 'you dont believe thats what they would do'? they not only did it , they said they would do it again. god told them to.
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@ the land belonged to great Britain. again, how many times has a country lost a war and were given the land back? that would be the exception rather than the rule. and they have still repeatedly been offered land. they were given gaza in 05. they said thank you by electing a group that wants them unalived and attacked israel. when has any of these other countries given back land they 'stole'?
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@HScarlet no. i'll say it again, countries have won and lost wars throughout all of history. do you have equal condemnation of the ottoman empire which conquered what was once israeli land? i think not.
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@spamfilter32 On July 24, 1922, the League of Nations entrusted Great Britain with the Mandate for Palestine. Recognizing "the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine," Great Britain was called upon to facilitate the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine-Eretz Israel (Land of Israel). Shortly afterward, in September 1922, the League of Nations and Great Britain decided that the provisions for setting up a Jewish national home would not apply to the area east of the Jordan River, which constituted three-fourths of the territory included in the Mandate and which eventually became the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan.
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@HScarlet thats not a response
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@spamfilter32 The British Mandate (in effect, British rule) of Palestine, including the Balfour Declaration, was confirmed by the League of Nations in 1922 and came into effect in 1923. The territory of Transjordan was also covered by the Mandate but under separate rules that excluded it from the Balfour Declaration. Britain signed a treaty with the United States (which did not join the League of Nations) in which the United States endorsed the terms of the Mandate,[195] which was approved unanimously by both the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives.
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@spamfilter32 youre changing the argument. whether they had a right to do that doesnt not mean the area was not under British control which was your first objection. why didnt the league of nations have a right to control the area?
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@spamfilter32 why did they have no right to control the area?
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@HScarlet "if youd just accept that happening to you" i'm not sure what this means.
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@HScarlet you realize on the morality of the conflict, we are probably quite close to being on the same page. where we disagree about is the goals and intents of each side. what is each side trying to accomplish? this is why i brought up the charter of hamas- it spells out quite clearly what they are intending to do, and as we can see in their own words, they say god wants them to unalive the jews. you just dont believe them when they say this. that is the difference. i dont think youre a bad person, i just think you are wrong to not believe them when they tell you what they are doing and why they are doing it.
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what does the charter of hamas say they want to do to the jews?
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