Comments by "Niall O\x27Neill" (@nialloneill5097) on "Arthur Scargill interview | Miner's strikes | TV Eye | 1984" video.
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Well the rich clubbed together to pay for a new union for them, as they knew what was at stake was far greater then the mining industry. Joe Gormley, meanwhile, helped create the divisions between areas to conquer the miners through the bonus scheme, not least as the Notts men were on much higher wages than the S Yorks and S Wales, and also working in much better conditions.Greed begets greed. Also, these miners did not have the foresight to see the bigger picture, as is oft the case of selfish, greedy people who are always short-sighted in their desire for immediate gains. Thus, they did not see what the others were telling them , that if the strike was lost, their pits would soon be closed too, which they could not imagine, as they believed the words of the crooked Tories and senior management in the NCB, and thought to hell with the militant areas, as long as we're alright Jack. With the NUM crushed, the pits closed, the Tories were free to then dismantle all the social enterprises of this once great nation, namely the nationalised industries, and hand them on a silver platter to the rich, and elite...for all time. This also included the vast housing stock of the NCB and the councils. And this is why this country is suffering now, for we have lost all our assets to international investors on the stock market, or wannabes within our own society, and I could quote some examples of how this greed perpetuated in the mining areas. It was all one enormous scandal and a THEFT OF THE NATION'S ASSETS, that was at an enormous cost for the taxpayer, who was usually the working man who cannot evade taxes as do the rich and self-employed through tax loopholes, or tax havens abroad. There was the cost of destroying these mining communities, the cost to the social infrastructures and other businesses, the police costs, loss of taxes, redundancies, high loss of investment of equipment left on coal faces, loss of infrastructures that had taken yrs to build up within the large national industries, and the loss of health and safety mechanisms, to name but a few. The ruling elite did not complain, nor care though, as they made billions for private investors and shareholders, who were given these industries literally free, making a killing out of their acquisitions, whilst those who really owned them, the industrial taxpayers only received poverty and ridicule. And there was no thought of ecological improvements back then as a few have tried to lie about, if there were, why were they still using increasing, copious amts of oil. BULLSHITTERS!!!!!! I awoke to the fact that the working man cannot trust his govt, politicians, nor the rich elite, as they have only a few things on their mind, power, fame, and MONEY!!! Therefore they are not fit for purpose, and this can only end in disasters they do share the cakes of wealth and health amongst all the people. This country is screwed now due to the reckless and abusive nature of the Tories and rich doing this period, and we have no assets to fall back on now, as they were all gifted to perverse, greedy fat cats, who have no moral or social conscience, only the selfish desire for money, and more money. If certain authorities are now really being serious in arresting Putin for breaking international laws, how about these same people charging Thatcher, and her govt and cronies,, such as the coercive business leaders, who committed the GRAND THEFT, of the GB, whilst murdering and butchering many jobs and lives, for they murdered the hopes and dreams of many a community in the industrial heartlands. A decent person would have sought to develop other industries and technologies to replace these gradually, mindful of the ecological needs for the future, but this was NEVER in their thoughts. Only the destruction of the Unions and Working class was of paramount importance to them, so they could get their greedy hands and talons on the nationalised industries, and feather their own pockets and those of their mates, on so many levels! Thus a great nation was lost, for it lost its heart, conscience, strength, and sustainability, and with it went all hopes of equality and equity, and more importantly, moralistic means of living, and TRUST!!! No wonder people have turned away from churches and voting for political parties, and listening to politicians, as they have all been sussed.
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I am still here, have no fear! Yes, and I was there, in those days of the strike, and one thing I can state is that there were many heroes in the coal industry, particularly in the Yorkshire, Scottish and Welsh areas. These men were courageous, strong, and kind, and looked out for their communities. Sadly, the Notts and midlands lads were not made of the same mettle, and not so communal minded, nor brave, prone to yielding to base instincts, and thereby easier to be bought off by the govt and rich elites. Yes, it seems all the heroes have gone now, with the destruction of the old working class, through the loss of the heavy industries where most of these men worked. I can sense with these losses, the strength of the nation has waned, as men are not meant to work behind desks all day, on phones and laptops, it's not manly. Hence, why I feel as though I am surrounded by zombies, and cowards, who do not have the backbone to stand up for a genuine cause. Well, we did a yr, and would have continued in Yorkshire, but a few areas were wilting under the pressure, as homes were lost, wives were lost, children barely fed, cars gone, etc. I would really like to write something about this period, and how so much changed afterwards, and how we lost all our heroes, the working class heroes, who oft were first in the line when the wars broke out. I don't see so many queueing up now. Thus, it will be up to us old 'uns, to once again roar our lion-hearted courage across the land, and awaken all the heroes. Perhaps, even King Arthur will stir, in those days of strife, when the inevitable wars and conflicts break out again. So as a new age beckons, as does a time of woe, it will not be easy, but once again we must call upon our heroic hearts, for as Tennyson:
We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield. And the S Yorks miners never yield, mark ye well!!!!! For the heroes are still there, awaiting their calls, and the fates that destiny has in mind for them!
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The miner's fight was a good one, seeking to preserve the heritage of the working class, but betrayed on all levels, including at times by Scargill, although he was a tough and clever negotiator. The strike was about stealing the assets of the nation, paid for by working class men, whilst the rich and self-employed often avoided and evaded paying any taxes, but just these people wanted the riches built up in these national industries. And the greedy, selfish, short-sighted Notts lads helped them, only to also find themselves betrayed after the strike, no surprises there . A two tier system of right vs left set up by a faulty class system, which was fuelled by men's arrogance and greed amongst the ruling classes, who treat 'their' subjects like scum. The working class had heart, and many knew how to share, and what else is there in life but to learn how to help and live alongside others in a virtuous way, and build co-operative societies, where people can be trusted, and promote genuine inner beauty. There was nothing beautiful about the Tory gangsters and swindlers, and their rich elite crooks. And that's how and why you finished up with an extreme work base, as a reaction to extreme rulers, who the workers knew, did not give a f-ck about them, nor truth, proven by their many lies and thefts during and after the Strike. And this was the moment when moral consciences and community-minded spirit was lost, and has never been the same since, for society is full of snakes and crooks, including the Tory ranks especially, as has been proven once again in recent yrs.
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@CanadianMonarchist The miners knew of King Arthur's ways, indeed, I met some miners at Wooley Colliery who knew him when he first began to work there, and they say a few of them had him hung over the shaft to scare him. He so gobby! Miners were not so foolish that they blindly followed him, I can assure you. All knw in their hearts and minds that the Battle of Britain was looming, between the working-class and the rich elite, and their Tory puppets. Now there was coercion for you, but many riches to be had; hence now why the country is f_cked. For the many assets and silverware were robbed from the masses, and handed on a Silver Platter to the rich, in their pursuit of world rule, for why did they need more, when they had plenty already. SICKOS, who destroyed communities, the relations of man and wife, brotherhoods, sons lost fathers, I could go on. The main pt is that the sickest in society are insatiable, be it riches, power, land; and so must it all end, when East and West destroy one another out of envy and spite. Man needs to learn alongside his brothers though, not destroy them. Read How Dark is My Valley by P Hargreaves, which I am doing now. Only just over 100 small pages. He was from my village, emigrated, and came back, and began writing books. A real incite into the mining communities, and their struggles in the face of absolute ah_les, oft struggling to feed their children, who sometimes died due to lack of nutrition, whilst the rich mine-owners became richer. This world is a JOKE, better still a place of great evil, and as my long gone Father would say...Son, Hell on Earth.
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The ballot was hard due to the bonus scheme that had been set up by his Lordship Gormley, which turned area vs area, and the Notts men rarely came out anyway, so why come out when they were on great wages. They had been bought off by the govt and rich, who even paid for their own new Union, how very nice for being a traitor. Then, lo and behold, they lost their pits and jobs too after the strike. They didn't expect that, but we Yorks lads did, and we knew it was their selfishness ands greed that dictated their decision to carry on working. They didn't care if we lost our jobs, whereas we cared about the whole industry, and that's the difference between a human, and a slave to money. Thus, they coerced with a tyrannical govt and the deviant rich, who only cared about money too, so they betrayed the Notts lads by closing their pits too after the strike, proving what fools they were to work through it, imaging that just their pits would remain open, as if you could trust a Tory govt. All very well planned yrs ahead by the govt, in other ways too. Then, they could sell all the national industries and social housing for a song, destroying not just mining communities, but the nation as a whole, for its heart had been ripped out, and it no longer had a social and moral conscience. MONEY and GREED now ruled on these shores, tied to corporate companies, shareholders, investment bankers, bent politicians, etc, and has done since, which is why there are so many crooks in society these days, as well as ZOMBIES!!!
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@billygiles3276 He knew they had laid a trap, but knew his only chance was the loyalty of his Yorkshire and other radical miners, as we all knew as miners that it was Gormley who helped set all this up by accepting a bonus scheme that the NCB exploited to turn areas vs areas. Then, they used money from the rich to lure them into another Union, which didn't matter, as they knew these pits would be closed in a few yrs. So they also conned the moderate areas into thinking that their pits and jobs would be alright, and they had the support of the govt, so these short-sighted, selfish, self-centred baskets thought f_ck the rest, I'm alight Jack. They had been known for this attitude for many decades, even in the general strike, and so were never considered reliable, or trustworthy Union members, as they looked out for themselves and their pockets. The govt knew this, so set their traps, which included the use of oil, and massive stockpiles, and the call up of many police, and new laws to restrict picketing. Also, as he states here, the work to rule was working, so the NCB called it out by suddenly saying they would close pits. Thus, the miners hand was now forced, and no-one really thought we would win a strike, but we had to make a stand from a pt of honour, and the defence of not only for jobs, and those of our children and grandchildren, but for the communities we lived in, and the nation as a whole. And history has proven we were right, and that the govt and PM of the time were nothing less than CROOKS, LIARS AND THIEVES. AND NOW LOOK AT THE STATE OF THE NATION!!!
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