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  14. Many people don't appreciate that if it wasn't for the British a number of tribes in South Africa wouldn't exist today. When she speaks about 'genocide' that is what the Zulu were practicing in Natal as they moved south, wholesale slaughter of tribes effectively wiping the identity off the face of Africa. The British, in their clashes with Shaka's Zulu warriors, effectively stopped that. A women of the Fingo tribe living in the Eastern Cape once said that if they had not stopped them, her tribe, and hence her, would no longer exist. The same happened in New Zealand where maori tribes were constantly fighting each other with cannibalism and slavery a common theme, by signing an Agreement with the British Crown, Treaty of Waitangi, this was stopped and the genocide that was the eradication of the moriori tribe by maori was not repeated. Two small but significant examples of the benefits of English colonialism. It should be noted the the greatest genocides have always been perpetrated by rules on their own people, generally in the name of communism, Pol Pot, Chairman Mao and the Ukranian Holodomour to name a few. Edit:- It is also worth noting that the esteemed economist, Dr Thomas Sowell, said that it cost England more to keep the colonies than what England derived in economic benefits, the huge investments in infrastructure and technlogy transfers were incredible, not to mention that it was the British that stopped the slave trade, an action that nearly bankrupted the country due to the compensation payments that were made along with the military actions with the navy preventing the shipment of slaves.
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  1634.  @jockmoron  I hear what ypu are saying, however I also remember the pre 1984 Rogernomics nad the stupidity of government, cars cost more than a persons annual salary, and I'm not talking flash cars, a mini was around $2,250 and my pad at the time was $1,475 pa. Power was cheap as was milk but taxwas stupid at 66c in the dollar max and then there were the retail taxes of 40% on stereo equipment, boat parts etc. It took me 6 weeks to get a business telephone line once, despite giving them 3 months notice, when they decided to come in the rigged us up a temporary line that sat on the floor in the middle of the office! Thats how slack telecom was and yet you paid them an arm and a leg. Also stupid little things such as having to register a model aircraft transmitter with the post office! The bureaucrats had a fine old time with all of the protectionist rackets that were running on imports and exports, I knew of one company with political connections that had many exclusive import licenses that they used to bring in fine goods, marked them up 100% to get to 'wholesale' and then another 100%for retail! How do you think all the posh houses were built in remmers pre 1985? The dairy board used to live like kings in their protected business environment and could buy anything they wanted for themselves and did. It is important to remember that around 1984 NZ was technically bankrupt on this command and control government that Muldoon was running, we really had no choice. The problem has been the ongoig execution of the strategy which David Lange stopped, if they had run it through properly I'm not sure so many of the imbalances would have happened. The liberalisation helped me and a few of my enterprising friends to make successes of ourselves and this benefited NZ on the way through employment, taxes and exports, over the years the latter would have been in the region of $10 mil. Like many things, it is a double edged sword, that is why good leadership for the benefit of the country is essential, unfortunately we have too many incompetent ideologues in central and local government screwing it up and putting the brakes on things. When farming the degree of stupidity from these people left me breathless at times and the financial and individual resource wasted was incredible. Still going on today, they couldn't run a bath let alone an enterprise.
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  1899.  @markm2092  Yes and no, it depends on what measurement you are using. If you speak generally then perhaps yes, but specifically, generally no. The mortality rate of any countries in Africa is now worse than before, I know people hated apartheid and I was no fan of it, but the average life expectancy of the people was the highest in Africa and was approaching first world levels, there were hospitals, railways, universities that had world class standards, a power grid that worked all the time, potable water from dams and taps, food that could be eaten, remember that Zimbabwe was the bread basket of Africa. Those were just a few of the advantages that were squandered by the ruling elites and government officials through their corrupt business practices. Botswana did a great job, Sir Seretse Khama was a great leader who was pragmatic and ran the country for the benefit of its people not himself and that is why they were, and are, so successful. Compare that to Zimbabwe's leaders who used to commandeer the Air Zimbabwe airlines aircraft to fly to Europe to go gambling, taking no account of the passengers or the important export airfreight that may have been on board! Mortality now is now at a third world level and the infrastructure, most of which was first class when they gained independence, has been let go and is now run down. Compare this to India where they held onto all of theirs, worked hard to maintain it and have successfully begun to improve it, same opportunities. You must remember that at the time of colonisation the world was a very different place and even in England times were tough with children of 8 or 9 years working with their parents in the coal mines, starting at 5 am and finshing at 8 pm, not seeing any sunshine and that is why rickets were so bad, never mind miner's lung. The cotton mills weren't much better. Based on Gandhi's experience of England, he felt that in some respects the English treated their own people worse than the colonials!
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  3620.  @nakshatraroy7442  There is no 'rules based international system' its a fake term that the septics thought up and use to fudge things. If they want something a certain way they cite it to make it alomost appear legitimate, in reality what there is is an international legal system, which is completely different and relies on the rule of laws. The septics don't like them so they spout their own rubbish, so I would suggest that you should be very wary when you hear that term and think about what it really means. In terms of rule of law I understand your concern and it would appear that Russia and China are pretty bad, however again be very careful of the propaganda that has been pushed with this, how true is it? If you listen to guys like Scott Ritter who lived in Russia for many years he will tell you that the Russians and Russia are very different from what you are being told. As for the fairness of the legal system, just think of Julian Assange and look at how they have been persecuting him a journalist who told us many of the dirty secrets that the septics had been doing, or perhaps Snowden who now lives in Russia, must be a bad palce, after he revealed all of the shenanigans that the septic govt gets up to. With neighbours and other sovereign countries, how many place have the septics interefered in? We know of the Ukraine in 2014, vicki nuland said it cost them $5 billion to overthrow a democratically elected govt, or perhaps more recently the coup in Pakistan when they ousted Khan, or perhaps the completely illegal sanctions on Venezuela because they wouldn't tow the line and the oil shipments that they stole from them on the high seas and sold, taking their money. Libya and its gold come to mind as well, invasion of Cuba, etc, etc In all its years, what is it 280 odd, the septics have evidently only not been making war and overthrowing a country for some 21 years. How many have Russia and China?
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  4083.  @Andy-P  Disagree, imho it would appear that you only want to see the one side. Remember the Chinese Ambassador killed when their embassy was hit, one of the 'few' that missed? Wholesale destruction of the power system? What about the 500,000 Iraqis that died through sanctioning medical supplies? Death and destruction does not come about just by flattening a place. Look up the azov brigade to see why the corridors are being shelled, see how they are installing their troops in residential areas and then not letting the residents flee. Check out how one of the Ukrainian commanders was murdered by the brigade when he visited them and told them to stop killing their own people, the Ukrainian army thenbombed the brigade. What about the 14,000 people killed in Donbass since 2014 or the fact that 155,000 Ukrainian troops were massed on the borders of Donbass before Putin went in to stop it. Why do you think he has been able to encircle their army so easily in that area? You cannot just flippantly say 'some went the wrong way' that wrong way has consequences. Putin know that there are ethnic Russians in the conflict and that many are related to Ukrainians, hew is doing his level best to minimise their casualties. Remember the guys from Snake Island that were 'all killed' and lionised on tv, well they were all brought back to land by the Russian navy, given food and water and then taken home. I always watch both side presentations to try and get a balanced perspective, I think that's important. Be very careful what you are seeing, much of it has come ftom other wars and then being purported to be from this conflict. Remember 81% of all coups and conflicts since WWII have been perpetrated by the yanks, annd I am not sure that there are all that many people who are happy with their 'liberation' except perhaps the heads of the corporations that have benefitted from them.
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  4660. There was a large citrus estate based in the Mazowe valley that used to grow all kinds of citrus and ptoduced the well known Mazoe Orange Crush. Was developed from open bush with the Mazoe Dam being built to provide the necessary water for the irrigation. Many families lived and worked there with a school and other facilities created for them and their families. There was even cows to produce milk for them. One of mugabes 'nieces' evidently went in there one day and just 'took over' the place chucked everybody 9ff and moved into the big house. She quickly ran the place down and did nothing to maintain and keep the irrigation or keep the workers employed. Within a couple of seasons the estate effectively imploded with just some dairy cattle being kept and rest of the land reverting to bush. What many people do not acknowledge are the number of schools that were built for native Zimbabweans or the fact thet there were technical schools for them to learn trades or, for the brightest, they could attend the university in Salisbury. One of the best solid plasterers I've ever seen was the product of that training, no doubt he would have long since left to ply his trade elsewhere where his skills would be rewarded and appreciated. Would love to hear of any successful African farm ventures based on training and assistance from overseas that have been successful. Zimbabwe is a wonderful country with some of the best people in the world, and there is plenty for everyone, currently being screwed up with what appears to be a very common concept in the west currently, namely that of inept and corrupt leadership at all levels.
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