Comments by "BeyerT1" (@derbigpr500) on "Auto Express"
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You people thinking that GT-R is the better car are just complete idiots. There is no other way to call the amount of stupidity and total lack of any knowledge about cars. EVEN THE JAPANESE THEMSELVES SAID THAT GT-R CANT COMPETE WITH EUROPEAN SUPERCARS. But you stupid need for speed fanboy brainwashed generation think it is...morons. Porsche is infinitely more luxurious, comfortable, refined, has MUCH more quality in every detail, GT-R feels cheap next to the old 911, let alone new one, AND on top of all that its got a better engine, better gearbox, better brakes, better suspension with much more comfort and better handling at the same time, better acceleration, its lighter, so it can be driven hard for much longer, better fuel economy, no doubt better reliability with GT-R being so unreliable,
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Just because rear end look more stable to you (whatever), doesn't mean it is. Golf starts understeering much sooner, thats why rear end doesn't step out. Megane doesn't understeer as much, but thats why it goes trough corners faster. Also, don't forget Golf has stability control that is ALWAYS on, in the Megane it was turned off, so ofc it can slide a bit if you make it. I've driven the Megane RS III, and owned the Megane II RS for 3 years, and trust me, Its NOT unstable. Its extremely planted and on normal roads you really have to go ape shit, you really have to go over the top to make it understeer or oversteer.
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It's not even about lap times. Seriously, I've only driven the basic 2.7 Cayman, and that thing drives like a dream. It's seriously one of the best drivers cars ever made, and probably one the 3 best money can buy today. It's so incredibly balanced, stable, predictable, the seating position is perfect, steering and brake feel are spot on. It just feels like it's glued to the road, and then when it let's go, it does it with zero drama and it's very easy to control. It's one of those cars that feel like no matter what you do, you won't spin it or slide off the road. It feels like a go-cart, except it's super refined and pretty comfortable at the same time. It's one of those cars that you drive and after that you need a one week break to forget about how good it iis before you sit behind a wheel of any other car because otherwise you're bound to be very disappointed.
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Yea VW snobs must really be hitting their heads now....let's just ignore that every single piece of that Seat that makes it as fast as it is was just taken over from VW... chassis, suspension, brakes, engine, gearbox...and that without VW this Seat would never even exist. They have the same mechanics, it's just set up differently. But stupid people like you don'tunderstand that having the same hardware, and setting it up differently makes a big difference in performance, and also that setting up the car to be a bit faster on the track usually makes it worse on the road, because you lose stability and safety in poor weather and bad roads, and you lose a lot of comfort and refinement as well. Leon R is set up more aggressively, more track focused, Golf R is set up for the road. I can guarantee you that while Golf R might be a touch slower on a perfectly dry, perfectly flat track with an even surface (and remember it's 5 door vs 3 door), because of it's setup its MUCH more comfortable and refined on the road, and better, more stable, safer, smoother to drive on the road, where it will spent 99,9% of time. You can be sure as hell that it will also be faster on real roads with bumps, different surfaces, cambers, different weather conditions, etc....because in case you didn't notice, real roads are nothing like smooth, flat and dry race tracks. So, while people with limited intellect might jump onto the "lololol vw sucks" bandwagon, Golf R is still a better car overall and in 9/10 situations faster than Leon R. So yea...poor bastards who will buy the Golf R over the Leon...they will have to spend their time in a car that's better in every way. (faster on track doesn't mean better when it comes to road cars, for reasons previously stated, anyone who doesn't realize that clearly is clueless about cars).
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Snakebloke If you think a 5 series is anything other than perfect visually, you're just a fucking moron with zero taste. I've never heard ANYONE say that a 5 series is ugly or disgusting as you put it. That car is absolute perfection for a saloon in terms of design. It's perfectly balanced, proportions are spot on, every single part of that car, from any angle, looks better than any other car in the segment, and if you take any single part of that car, and think of how you could possibly improve it visually, you couldn't do it. Trust me, people infinitely more intelligent with far better taste agreed with me, as for the engineering part of the car, well, as a mechanical engineer I know very well why the 5 series is still the best car in the segment. That is a fact, not an opinion. Those who don't agree, again, are not relevant, because I don't value opinions of morons or people who talk about things they're not educated on, know nothing about, and have no experience with.
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beastho
M135i or Boxter S, Cayman S? Roughly the same price? In which universe? M135i with the same equipment level as the RCZ will cost around 55000 euros, thats 15000 more. Base Cayman S costs 65000, put in equipment that RCZ comes with as standard, and it will be over 70000 euros. Besides, RCZ-R is faster than both of those on track. Even Megane RS is faster on Nurburgring than 1M, not 135i, but 1M, which is faster than 135i or Cayman. And RCZ-R is almost 1,5 sec faster than Megane RS around this short track, on a long track it would make an even bigger difference. I don't think you're quite aware of the components that RCZ-R uses. It currently has some of the best suspension systems you can find on the market this side of supercar region.
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Light Yagami
Yea, you'd know, never being in a 50 km radius of either of these two cars. C5 is an excellent car, in many ways MUCH better than C class. C class, in fact, not even E class comes close to the refinement, smoothness, comfort and quietness of the C5. It's a very comfortable car in every way, the seats are amazing, huge, soft, supporting like a sofa at home, unlike the hard tiny seat in the C class.
C5 scored higher in safety than C class, it's got more room inside, bigger trunk, same equipment (actually more, you can't get adjustable air suspension on current C class, you can't get massage seats, etc.), the quality of the materials in the interior of the C5 is actually better than in the current C class, which feels very plasticky and dull inside, while you can get a C5 that COMPLETELY covered in leather, on the dash, door panels, velour on the roof, etc. Don't underestimate the C5 just because you lack any sort of knowledge about cars, plus you're very ignorant and acting as if you DO know something. And I know you'll come back with "it will fall apart" or "its unreliable" comment... well, check the latest GERMAN reliability ratings where it scored max. points, just as the C class did.
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***** Yea but it changed the stiffness of the body (and it's total bullshit when they claim it didn't, they can fool children in the kindergarten, not a mechanical engineer like me, even "rubber mounting" it has some effects). It did affect it at least a bit, but that is irrelevant. The rollcage might have slightly changed the distribution of weight, center of gravity, etc.
But that is again irrelevant, even if everything related to the weight was the same as the production car, even if the roll cage had the sole purpose to protect the driver in case of crash, that is already an advantage because the driver could push the car harder knowing that if he crashes he will be ok, instead of driving a road car that wont be as safe in a crash. Mentally when driving on a race track (and again, having more than 15 years of experience of track driving myself I'd know), it's very important to feel safe and comfortable. Even if you're just subconsciously aware that you simply can't get hurt if you crash, you'll consciously take more risk when driving. Just that advantage is an unfair advantage for the driver (and don't be naive and think that driver is not the most important component of the lap time on Nurburgring, average driver could not take these cars around it in less than 8:30 even with all assists enabled).
On top of that, compare the Megane and Civic laps side by side, see how much faster the Civic is in the straight, it literally looks like it accelerates like a car with 400hp not 300. And Megane keeps up because it's faster trough corners and during braking and corner exits. Listen to the tone of the tires and the slip angles, which are very specific and easy to recognize for semi-slick tires if you have experience of driving with them, again, an advantage for Honda over the Megane, which used Bridgestone more road focused tires.
In any case, even if Civic is faster, we're still comparing cars that came out SEVEN YEARS apart, and the engine in the Megane is actually pulling roots from the Megane II, so the engine basics, as well as gearbox, are basically 12-13 years old, whereas the Civic has a brand new drive train. It's not such a big feat to barely be able to beat a car from one or two generations ago, by a hair. When Megane 3 game out, it beat the old Megane RS 230 by 15 and Focus RS500 by almost 20 seconds per lap on the Nurburgring, Honda barely managed 3 seconds, WITH those unfair advantages.
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Victor Hoyles 0.4 seconds of a difference is not exactly what I'd call "spanked". You're clearly a fanboy who is unable to think clearly and will exaggerate everything just to prove he's right. This video is 100% about driving, just a small mistake or a different line can make 1 second or more of a difference on a track with such slow chicanes and corners, where you can simply cut the chicane a bit more aggressively and save about 10 km/h of speed, so I would not use this video as any sort of proof, the times were just too close. I grew up at race tracks and have a lot of experience driving on them, and just by looking at this video and the track layout I can see where he could have easily fucked up without it showing on the video and still lost or gained more than just a second.
And the Megane (which beat the Seat in EVERY comparison so far except this one) had old brake pads which faded, so that time is totally out of the question, because they should have used the cars equally worn out mechanical parts. Furthermore, the Seat Leon is actually not the most hardcore version, because this one didn't have the Sub 8 minute perfrormance pack, which would reduce the time. On top of that, look how stiff the Civic is...just because it's suspension is much more track focused, it has so much more aero features, more power and more torque, it should have been far faster, but it wasn't. 0.4s is nothing when it comes to such slow cars...this is not F1 you know...this is a slow track, and 0.4 seconds of a difference is really small.
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